Every one keeps trying to get in the last word and then ask everyone else to stop. Well, please STOP THE BICKERING. Both sides have valid points, let's not degenerate to subliminal cut-downs. JUST MOVE ON! Mike Kelley

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Hello Mary: A while back I joined your researcher list on your website whenever I began my search in Kent County Ontario where my Grandfather was born. Subsequently, I traced James KELLY [My G-Grandfather] back to Burritts Rapids, Oxford-on-Rideau township, Grenville County, Upper Canada where he was born to Thomas & Hannah KELLY in 1838. Perhaps I need to update with you! <grin> On your website I discovered "My Kelly's" mentioned in the section where you abstracted marriage records from the Ontario Marriage Films of KELLY Marriages performed in 1873; 1874; & 1875, held at the L.D.S. Library & this is where I came up with the marriage records of Maria KELLY (1875); Martha KELLY(1873) & Jerusha KELLY (1874). Is this Maria KELLY: Cert. # 007 325...of KEMPTVILLE possibly the Maria Fleming you mentioned? She was also listed as a witness at her sister, Martha KELLY's marriage to Edmund FULCHER on 09-01-73 Cert. # 007 325...of KEMPTVILLE. You state that your KELLY family was a Catholic Family living in a predominately Protestant area. I have wondered about this for some time. Thomas KELLY [Born somewhere in Ireland in 1801] is listed on the 1871 Census of Ontario as being of the Church of England; Anglican faith. With the exception of three (3) of his children, who were listed as Methodist, I am not sure if the other children were Protestant; or not. If they were all of the same faith, it puzzles me why the children were not buried in the same Christ Church Anglican Cemetery in Burritts Rapids as Thomas and Hannah KELLY. I have been unable to locate any of the other fourteen (14) children's burial sites or gravemarkers. Is it possible that your KELLY's and mine are inter-married or even blood relatives, despite their religious convictions? Most of our KELLY's lived in the same general area. Perhaps the family was divided in its faith. Loren Kelly

Hello Shirley: As I indicated, my grandfather Nathan Tompkins KELLY was born in Blenheim, Kent County, Ontario, Canada on 24, August, 1867 to James KELLY and Rebecca TOMPKINS KELLY. His mother Rebecca TOMPKINS KELLY was the daughter of Nathan TOMPKINS who was the son of Israel TOMPKINS [A United Empire Loyalist]. So I am a descendant through my grandfather's Maternal TOMPKINS LINE. My TOMPKINS' family line came OUT of New York. Israel TOMPKINS was from Stillwater, New York and I am attempting to trace his ancestors [Beginning with his parents-Who are unknown to me]. He was a well-known United Empire-Loyalist of English extraction and a native of America. >From "BEERS COMMEMORATIVE" published Toronto, 1904; "The paternal grandparents {of Reuben A. Tompkins}, Israel and Rebecca (Brown) Tompkins were of English extraction, but natives of New York, and were well known as United Empire Loyalists. Mr. Tompkins was in the British Army, and was captured while carrying dispatches. He settled in Canada. One of his cousins, Hon. Daniel D. Tompkins, served two terms as Governor of the state of New York." >From the "SECOND REPORT OF THE BUREAU OF ARCHIVES FOR THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO"; Toronto, 1905, by Alexander Fraser, it states: "N. C. February 9. (49) 1091. Claim of ISRAEL TOMPKINS, late of Saratoga. Claimt. says: He was at Isle au Noix in the Fall of '83. Is a nat. of A. Lived at Stillwater. Joined Genl. Burgoyne. Served all the war. Produces Major Jessup's Certificate to his services. Had a Cow and a calf on the lands of John Aurie. Claimt. had the land on shares with him. Had Corn & Flax 7 c sown. Claimt. came away before harvest." This is found on page 1108 of this report. >From "Biographical Sketches of Loyalists of the American Revolution" bu Gregory Palmer on page 867 it states: "TOMPKINS OR TOMKINS, ISRAEL AO 12/109/294 Of New York, A native of America, Tompkins lived at Stillwater. He joined Burgoyne at Fort Edward and served in Jessup's Corps for the rest of the war. Tompkins settled afterwards at Sorel Quebec and estimated his loss at 18 {Pounds} Sterling." >From "American Loyalist Claims, Vol. 1"......Abstracted from the Public Record Office Audit Office Office Series 13, Bundles 1-35 and 27 by Peter Wilson Coldham, F. A. S. G. states: "TOMPKINS, ISRAEL (X), Saratoga, Albany Co., N. Y. With five other men, escaped to join Burgoyne's Army at Fort Edward; served in Maj. Jessup's Corps until the capitulation, when he came to Canada and served with Corps until their reduction. Was honorably discharged though he has not got his certificate. Memorial 25 Feb. 1786 Sorel. Claim; Cow and crops. (AO 13/16/68-70)" >From L. D. S. microfiche #6010866, "2000 Loyalist Names and Families from the Haldimand Papers," by Keith Fitzgerald states: "Israel Tompkins alone from New York, farmer, leased lands. Member Kings Rangers, Rogers Rangers. Israel Tompkins' wife, Rebecca BROWN TOMPKINS was born about 1770." >From L. D. S. film # 1430819 CLP from Rg 1 L3, Vol 511. T misc/30, 1788 -1794, reel c-2842, states as follows: "The petition of Rebecca Tompkins of Augusta, daughter to Jesse Brown, humbly showeth that your petitioner was a soldier in Major Jessup's Corps of Loyal Rangers and joined the royal standard prior to the year 1793...undated." The folder says: "The petition of Israel Tompkins wife...county of Grenville." Further research shows that Israel Tompkins had a patent in the township of Augusta in Grenville County, Ontario, Canada that was dated July 15, 1797 on Concession 9; Lot 2; 200 acres. On 01, May, 1802 he is found living in Wolford Township in Grenville County, Ontario, Canada and is found to be living there up through the 1817 Census of Wolford township. After 1817 Israel TOMPKINS seems to disappear. I am unsure of where Israel TOMPKINS is buried or this date of death, but I do know it was some time after 1817 [He would have been approximately sixty years of age at this time.]. I do not know who his parents; siblings; or other relatives [Other than his cousin Daniel D. Tompkins] might be. Regarding Israel TOMPKINS date of birth: My G-G-G- Grandfather, Israel TOMPKINS, was about 25 on January 1, 1783 at Riviere du Chene, according to a Muster Roll of the Loyal Rangers {Edward Jessup, Major Commandant} which is taken from the "Rolls of the Provincial {Loyalist} Corps, Canadian Command American Revolutionary Period," prepared by Beacock Fryer and Lieutenant Colonel William A. Smy, C. D.; page 82 #6. This would make his date of birth approximately 1758. At this time he was 5' 9" tall and had 5 years & 3 months in service from America and was a private in Jessup's Corps of Loyal Rangers. Isn't it interesting how whenever you attempt to research your paternal line that you find out so much information about other lines. In this case, I was fortunate to have a Loyalist in my grandfather's maternal line. He left quite a paper trail from the Revolutionary War [1777] to about 1817. Now I wonder how I will: 1. Find the gravemarker & date of death of Israel TOMPKINS & 2. Find the ancestors (Beginning with the parents} of Israel TOMPKINS. I hope this answers your questions about Israel TOMPKINS. I will share this with several other lists to see if I can get any responses. Loren Kelly

Hello Shirley: . Thanks for your help. According to "Who's Where, A Guide To The Cemeteries of Rideau Township," edited by Jim Kennedy and produced by the Rideau Heritage Board of Publication, Township of Rideau, in 1980, Thomas KELLY [My Great Great Grandfather & the father of my Great Grandfather; James KELLY] is listed as being buried in Christ Church Anglican Cemetery Burritts Rapids with his wife, Hannah BROWN KELLY. The transcriptions on the tombstone reads..."Thomas KELLY...Died...28, April, 1891 at age 90 years, and Hannah KELLY...Died 15, March, (YEAR IS BLANK?) at age 78 years!" Why the year of death for Hannah is not on the gravemarker {It is smooth as if it was never chiseled} is a mystery to me. Thomas KELLY's place of birth was listed on the Ontario Census of 1871 as Ireland. He would have been born about 1801 somewhere in Ireland. Since he died in 1891 would I be able to get a copy of his Death Record from the Archives of Ontario? If so, what would the cost be in U.S. dollars? Also what would these records contain? Are there any other Canadian records that I could acquire which would help me discover where Thomas KELLY's birthplace was in Ireland and who his parents were? According to the 1861; 1871; & 1881 Leebee Oxford-on-Rideau township, Grenville County Census Thomas & Hannah KELLY had the following 15 children: 1. James KELLY [My Great Grandfather & their eldest son-Born in Burritts Rapids on 09, Sept., 1838] 2. Susana KELLY [Born about 1841 in Upper Canada] 3. Mary KELLY [Born abt. 1842 in U. C.] 4. Sarah KELLY [Born abt. 1843 in U. C.] 5. Elizabeth KELLY [Born abt. 1845 in U. C.] 6. Naomi KELLY [Born abt. 1847 in U. C.] 7. Kezeth KELLY [Born abt. 1848 in U. C.] 8. Maria KELLY [Born abt. 1851 in U. C.] On 22, March, 1875 married John ROSE 9. Sophia KELLY [Born abt. 1851 in U. C.] 10. Jamima KELLY [Born abt. 1853 or 1855 in U. C.] 11. Jerusha KELLY [Born abt. 1855 or 1856 in Burritts Rapids] On 04, February, 1874 married James Albert ROSE 12. Martha KELLY [Born abt. 1857 in Wolford township, Upper Canada] On 09, January, 1873 married Edmund FULCHER 13. William KELLY [Born abt. 1859 in U. C.] 14. Thomas KELLY [Born abt. 1859 or 1861 in U. C. 15. Albert KELLY [Born abt. 1863 or 1866 in Ontario] The aforementioned children are not buried in Burritts Rapids Christ Church Anglican Cemetery. I wonder where they might be? Possibly, they may be buried in Merrickville; Kemptville; or another cemetery in Burritts Rapids. But where? Are there any descendants still alive residing in or around this area? The eldest son of these 15 children born between 1838 and about1866 {A 28 year span of time} was my Great Grandfather; James KELLY. He married Rebecca TOMPKINS [Daughter of Nathan TOMPKINS {Veteran of the War of 1812} who was the Son of Israel TOMPKINS [A well-known United Empire Loyalist]. James KELLY and Rebecca TOMPKINS were the parents of my Grandfather; Nathan Tompkins KELLY who was born 24, August, 1867 in Blenheim, Kent County, Ontario. Nathan Tompkins KELLY (At about age 14); James KELLY & Rebecca TOMPKINS KELLY immigrated to the United States in 1879 and ended up in Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio where my father; Luther James KELLY [First Generation American], was born in 1907. I am also forwarding this information to several other lists in order to extend my research. I hope this answers your questions. Loren Kelly

Name: David Kelly E-Mail: davidkelly@iname.com Subject: James Henry Kelly m Edith Jane Berryman Body of Message: I am looking for a Edith Jane Berryman (possibly Troon, Camborne, Cornwall, England 21 Dec 1874) who married James Henry Kelly 1875 - 1939 who may have been Irish or born to Irish parents in Cornwall He was a tin miner who moved to Stanley County Durham Their wedding banns were read in St Andrews Church, Stanley but they were married in Cornwall davidkelly@iname.com

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on how to write to the Massachusetts Sate Archives for an index search in the Boston port passenger lists. You need to know the immigration year- I addressed my letter to 'Dear Sir or Madam" and then I provided as much information as I knew on my ancestors that may help them to identify the right people. I did that by giving their full names, birth years and their ages at the time of immigration, what country they were emigrating from, and why I thought they might have come through Boston. I kept it very simple. Just write to the address I sent in my previous post.There is no fee involved.

(I'm sorry that I've decided to post this to 4 lists.) Someone, on one of the lists I belong to , told how to request a lookup in the card index of the State Passenger List for the Port of Boston at the Massachusetts State Archives. I followed their instructions on how to request the lookup, knowing the year of immigration, and I provided as much pertinent info as I could . I sent my letter in on 2/20/00 to the Massachusetts State Archives, 220 Morrissey Blvd., Boston, MA 02125, and I promptly received an answer on 2/29/00. I want to thank the person who sent in the instrucions on writing to the MSA. I'm sorry I've misplaced your message, and can't thank you directly. The MSA sent me a listing of all the KELLY's of the same first names as I had listed in my letter and with the same immigration year. Their Query form lists the name, age, sex, date, ship name, occupation, birthcountry, residence , list number, and 'arrivewith'. The researcher told me to contact her if I saw a match (I didn't) or if I required more information. There was no charge for this. I have posted the 10 that I received from MSA below. A star (*) means no info provided for that category. I don't have any other information than what I have sent here. I hope this will help someone with their research. Name Age Sex Date Ship Name Occupation Birthcntry Residence Listno Arrivewith 1) Kelly, John; 25; m; 5/30/1879; Glamorgan; herd man; US; Boston; 5; * 2) Kelly, John; 25; m; 6/21/79; Batavia; laborer; Ireland; Ireland; 247; * 3) Kelly, John; 07; *; 8/17/79; Atlas; laborer; Ire; Ire; 35;36 ; Kelly, James 4) Kelly, John; 45; m; 10/5/79; Massachusetts; laborer; Ire; England; 38; * 5) Kelly, John; 07; *; 10/5/79; Massachusetts; *; *; *; 25-31; Kelly, Ellen 6) Kelly, John; 11; *; 10/6/79; Carroll; *; *; *; 283-287; Kelly, Mary 7) Kelly, John; 19; m; 11/6/79; Elizabeth (schnr.); farmer; Nova Scotia; Nova Scotia; 2; * 8) Kelly, John; 30; m; 11/9/79; Samaria; laborer; Ire; Ire; 117; * 9) Kelly, Patrick; 25; m; 5/6/79; Bulgarian; *; Ire; *; 2; * 10) Kelly, Patrick; 17; m; 5/17/79; Samaria; laborer; Ire; Ire; 114; *

I am researching John Kelly (Kelley) b. 1838 in unknown county, AL. He married Felicity Shovan in 1854 in Ouachita Parish, LA. His father was born SC and mother was born AL. I have literally been going through the 1850 census records for every county in AL and LA searching for a Kelly family with a boy named John aged 11 or 12 in 1850. Please mailto: jblan54@hotmail.com Jolie Blanchard Researching Arrington, Blanchard, Conville, Barns, Hudson, Kelly, Sumner and Webb in AL and LA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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I have information that John Calvin Kelley born April 1844 (Pennsylavania?) was married to: Mary Elizabeth Daughenbaugh born April 1852 in PA. They had at least one child named Logan Royer Kelley born Nov. 7 1885 in Wilton Junction Iowa. He married Maude Robinson in 1908. If anyone knows or think they know any Information about John Calvin Kelley please let me know. Please only respond if you have info ;-) Thanks, Mike Kelley

--part1_c9.177e1e4.25e6be06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_c9.177e1e4.25e6be06_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Mkelleyftb@aol.com From: Mkelleyftb@aol.com Full-name: Mkelleyftb Message-ID: <dc.16f2fe5.25e6bcb3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:56:19 EST Subject: John Calvin Kelley - 1844 To: Kelley-L@Rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I have information that John Calvin Kelley born April 1844 (Pennsylavania?) was married to: Mary Elizabeth Daughenbaugh born April 1852 in PA. They had at least one child named Logan Royer Kelley born Nov. 7 1885 in Wilton Junction Iowa. He married Maude Robinson in 1908. If anyone knows or think they know any Information about John Calvin Kelley please let me know. Please only respond if you have info ;-) Thanks, Mike Kelley --part1_c9.177e1e4.25e6be06_boundary--

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Hello, I am new to this list and need help! Does anyone have any knowledge of any of the following KELLY people from Edgar County, Illinois? Willa KELLY (1816 NC -?) married Presley DAVIS (1815 KY -?) Gillian KELLY married Unknown SPITLER Mary KELLY b. ca 1803 Lively G. KELLY married 8 Sep 1833 William BRIANT America KELLY b. ca 1828 NC married 8 Mar 1849 Daniel A. WILSON b. ca 1824 I need help finding out the relationships of these people! I have occasionally seen this last name spelled KELLEY. Thanks in advance, Sue Gates Davis

The year 2000 is a Census Year. Most of the census will be taken by mail, so after you have filled out your census form why not make a copy of it and file with your important papers. Then your family will not have to wait 72 years to learn about you." Got this from another list and thought this was an excellant idea...just thought I'd pass it on!!!!!

--part1_ac.18e3b0c.25e13f85_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just after I sent this query, I stopped receiving the Kelly-L email. So, if there were any responses, I missed them. I hope someone will please forward them to me if there were any. Thank you most sincerely, Evelyn --part1_ac.18e3b0c.25e13f85_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: EBRADB@aol.com From: EBRADB@aol.com Full-name: EBRADB Message-ID: <55.21bccad.25d8ce94@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:20:52 EST Subject: JOEL KELLY To: KELLY-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 44 I have been looking unsuccessfully for some time for JOEL KELLY of South Carolina who was born in Walhalla around 1800 and died before 1850 in Madison, now Oconee County, SC. He was married to Barbara Phillips and they had four children. (Joel was killed in a wagon accident when his children were young.) 1. George Washington Kelly b. c 1838 m. Sarah Butler, served in the Civil War, and moved to Kosse, Limestone County, Texas, in 1881. Stayed in Rome Georgia for several years on his way to Texas. They had 9 children. Stiles Plummer Levi Butler Amelia Louise George Tilden Will Luther Mollie L. Ella Jane Sally Dora Belle Zara 2. Marianne Kelly, b 1839, may have married a Brighton and/or Hull and stayed in SC. 3. Levi Waddell Kelly m. Sara Millerman. He served in the Civil War and then moved to Limestone or Falls County, Texas. They had 12 children. Dean Charlie Clay Oscar Gillespie May Isaiah Claude Molly George E. Jessie Pickens Thomas Saxon Essie Clyde Kelly Roscoe C. John Stanford 4. Reuben Kelly b. 1843, may have stayed in SC. Reuben had one son Thomas I have discovered that Joel is a popular name to pair with Kelly, but would love to hear from any of you that may know my Joel's siblings or parents or that may know of any of these Kellys. --part1_ac.18e3b0c.25e13f85_boundary--

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Help! I have lost my KELLY ancestors and descendants & do not know where to find them! A. Thomas KELLY: 1. Born somewhere in Ireland in 1801. 2. Died: 28, April, 1891 at age 90 years. 3. Buried: Christ Church Anglican Cemetery, Burritts Rapids, Oxford-on-Rideau township, Grenville County, Ontario Canada. 4. Occupation & Religion [1871 Ontario Census]: Labourer & Church of England, Anglican. B. Hannah BROWN KELLY[Wife of Thomas KELLY]: 1. Birth is estimated at 1814; 1815 or 1818 in Upper Canada or Quebec according to the 1861; 1871; & 1881 Oxford-on-Rideau township Census. 2. Died 15, March [Year Blank on tombstone] at age 78 years. 3. Buried: Christ Church Anglican Cemetery, Burritts Rapids, Oxford-on-Rideau township, Grenville County, Ontario Canada. Children born to Thomas & Hannah KELLY between approximately 1841 to 1866: 1. James KELLY[My G-Grandfather]: Born 09, September, 1838 in Burritts Rapids, Oxford-on-Rideau township, Grenville & Leeds County, Upper Canada. 2. Susana KELLY: Born abt. 1841 in U. C. 3. Mary KELLY: Born abt. 1842 in U. C. 4. Sarah KELLY: Born abt. 1843 in U. C. 5. Elizabeth KELLY: Born abt. 1845 in U. C. 6. Neome or Naomi KELLY: Born abt. 1847 in U. C. 7. Kezeth KELLY: Born abt. 1848 in U. C. 8. Maria or Mariah KELLY: 1. Born abt. 1851 in U. C. 2. On 22, March, 1875 lived in Kemptville [Religion-Methodist] & married John ROSE. Witnesses: Ias ROSE of Merrickville and Thomas KELLY of Oxford. 9. Safia; Sofia; or Sophia KELLY: Born abt. 1851 in U. C. 10. Jemimi or Jamima KELLY: Born abt. 1853 or 1855 in U. C. 11. Jerusa; Jariusa; or Jerusha KELLY: 1. Born abt. 1855 or 1856 in Burrits Rapids, Oxford-on-Rideau township; Grenville County, U. C. 2. At the age of twenty (20) on 04, February, 1874 lived in Merrickville [Religion-Methodist] & married James Albert ROSE. Witnesses: William & Catherine ROSE. 12. Martha KELLY: 1. Born abt. 1857 in Wolford township, U. C. 2. At the age of twenty (20) on 09, January, 1873 lived in Kemptville & married Edmund FULCHER. Witnessess: William BROWN & Maria KELLY. 13. William KELLY: Born abt. 1859 in U. C. 14. Thomas KELLY: Born abt. 1859 or 1861 in U. C. 15. Albert KELLY: Born abt. 1863 or 1866 in Ontario, Canada. Now I know that somewhere in Canada; the United States; or elsewhere that I have some cousins! Sheesh! Thomas & Hannah had fifteen (15) kids. Three (3) of those children I am certain married! Please help me find my "Lost KELLY's!"