Jackie, Your mail kept bouncing back so I am trying this through the group. I apologize to others if this information is not wanted. I think we might have a match of family. I think that Elias and William could be brothers, however. I don't have any direct facts that said John Thomas lived and died in Altus. But, I do know that his daughter married a Clinton Succratus Cagle and she died in Altus. My mother-in-law, JT's granddaughter, was born in Altus. So if I were a betting person, I would say that we need to explore this relationship deeper. Are you sure about your JT dying in Altus; that's the only piece that doesn't fit. I am not absolutely sure about mine. I think that it came from my mother-in-law. She just found all of her family information that had been misplaced for a couple years or so and I should have access to them in a month or so. Harvey Descendants of William Kelly 1 William Kelly 1835 - . +Margaret M. 1835 - ...... 2 John Thomas Kelly 1858 - 1934 .......... +Mary Elizabeth Mann 1860 - 1901 ................. 3 Bertha Aletha Kelly 1889 - 1945 ..................... +Clinton Succratus Cagle 1876 - 1953 ........................... 4 Joe Cagle ........................... 4 Ida Mae Cagle ........................... 4 Gladys Lovelace 1915 - My mother-in-law ............................... +Leon Lovelace 1914 - ...................................... 5 Sharon Kay Lovelace 1948 - .......................................... +Harvey Lee Bottoms 1950 - ................................................ 6 Daniel Leon Bottoms 1973 - ...................................... 5 Sonia Ann Lovelace 1952 - .......................................... +Wayne Avery Simonds, Jr. ................................................ 6 Christopher Wayne Simonds 1971 - .................................................... +Monica Ann Atkinson ................................................ 6 Candace Jo Simonds 1974 - .................................................... +Robert James Florence ........................... 4 Betty Joyce Cagle 1927 - 1997 ............................... +Meeker ...................................... 5 Karla Jo Meeker -----Original Message----- From: jackie@gower.net [mailto:jackie@gower.net] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 1998 8:35 PM To: Harvey L. Bottoms Subject: Re: kelley genealogy Hi Harvey: Your John Thomas Kelly, son of William Kelly caught my eye: My GGrandfather was John Thomas Kelly, lived and died in Altus, Jackson Co., Oklahoma. I am wondering if William is not the brother of my John Thomas. I show the following on John Thomas: Parents: Elias Kelly b 1824, Elizabeth ____ b 1830. Children: John Thomas b 10-23-1851, Missouri, d 1-19-1925, Altus, Ok., D. B. Kelly, b b 1850, MO., S. A. b 1854, Mo., Wm. S. b 1859 Mo., A. E. b 1859 Mo. Wish I had their full names. I have quite a bit of information on John Thomas and family. I have been unable to find anything else on his parents. Would love to exchange information with you. Jackie Bagwell Hughes > > My line of Kelly follows: > > I have a William Kelly being born 5/3/1835 marrying a Margaret M. who was > born 5/6/1835. Had son John Thomas Kelly born 4/20/1858 in Athens, > Limestone, Alabama died 12/10/1934 Wellington, Collingsworth County, Texas; > married Mary Elizabeth Mann who was born 1/24/1860 in Memphis, Shelby > County, Tennessee and died in 1901. They had a daughter named Bertha Aletha > Kelly born 3/31/1889 in Hamilton, Marion County, Alabama and died in 1945 at > Altus, Jackson County, Oklahoma; married Clinton Succratus Cagle. > > If anyone can help me, please let me know. > > Harvey L. Bottoms > > -----Original Message----- > From: donkelly@grovenet.net [mailto:donkelly@grovenet.net] > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 1998 1:23 PM > To: Harvey L. Bottoms > Subject: Re: kelley genealogy > > I also have lost Kellys in VA and can greatfully accept all the help I can > get. Don Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harvey L. Bottoms <HarveyBottoms@CSI.com> > To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 8:13 PM > Subject: RE: kelley genealogy > > >I would be interested. My Kelly line, at least at the present time is very > >elusive. It suppose to include the late actor Gene Kelly. Right now, I > >only have one individual and any help I can find would be appreciated. > > > >Harvey > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: KELLEY-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:KELLEY-L-request@rootsweb.com] > >On Behalf Of Helen S. Durbin > >Sent: Saturday, June 06, 1998 5:36 PM > >To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: kelley genealogy > > > >Hi all Kelley researchers, > >I can add to the newsletter info. I have some copies of the Kelley Clan > >Newsletter, published by one James O. Stewart. If you are all interested, I > >will start sending some of the info from them to the list. I shared with > >another list and was griped at about monopolizing the list so I quit > >sending info. If you all want it, just let me know and I will try to send > >it out to you, but I want all to want it. > >Sincerely, > >Helen in Pa. > > > >---------- > >> From: dkelley@digitalis.net > >> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Fw: kelley genealogy > >> Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 2:26 AM > >> > >> Duane Kelly <dkelly@digitalis.net > >> I have never heard of this newsletter either and would like info on it > >> please. > >> Valerie Kelly > >> ---------- > >> > From: KNW1013@aol.com > >> > To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: Re: kelley genealogy > >> > Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 9:04 PM > >> > > >> > In a message dated 98-06-05 21:37:04 EDT, rlouk@valu-line.net writes: > >> > > >> > << I am trying to find out about my order > >> > for the Kelley Heritage Newsletter, and would appreciate any > >> > help on getting this newsletter, and if it is still in print. >> > >> > > >> > > >> > I have never heard of this newsletter, I also would like info on it > >> please. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Debra > > > >______________________________