This is an interesting subject lately since there are so many "bleeding hearts" out there more than ready to forgive anyone for anything, no matter whether they have asked for it or not! Maybe we should not be so eager to forgive...until we hear a person actually apologize and admit they did something wrong. It took Clinton almost a year to admit he did anything wrong. The person who posted the "inapropriate joke" has admitted no wrong and has not asked for forgiveness. You could be wasting valuable empathy, sympathy, and "open arms" for a prodigal who hasn't come home! Now...please forgive me for wasting the Kelley list's time, I really do want to get back to geneology.