Mike, If I am not mistaken and remember my fathers teachings the Orange Order are men who remain loyal to the reigning monarch. My brothers and sister and I put on Orange one St. Patricks Day and sent him into quite a tither. Reading other people posts has triggered some other memories also. I remember my Grandfather saying that our name was Kelly because he was an old shanty Irishman and not an aristocrat while his father spelled his name Kelley. I also remember reading somewhere that the Kelly/Kelleys changed thier names because of religious persecution. Apparently they were not allowed to leave Ireland if it was spelled one way and not the other. If memory serves they removed the second e. Then put it back when they arrived here and were safe. I am, however, subject to senior moments so could be wrong. Maureen >OK......I will take the bait. Could you please expound on 'orange' Irish? >Where did the moniker come from? History of it? And, so on.... > >Mike >-----Original Message----- >From: Peggy Holt <plholt@onramp.net> >To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 8:46 PM >Subject: Re: KELLEY vs KELLY > > >>Just a thought, but when I once spoke to my father, years ago, I was >curious to know if we were "orange" Irish since we weren't >>Catholic. The most I could get out of him was a "yes". >> >>-- >>Peggy (Kelley) Holt >>Digging up Dead Relatives: Alexander, Carsten, Castleberry, Finnberg, >Frerichs, Goerling, Broadaway, Ingram, Kelley, Magrill, >>McFarland, Shackelford, Tubbs, Wilken >> >> >> >>==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >>If you have problems or questions about the KELLEY list, please contact me >separately by email, ... Paula Kelley Ward (listowner) at: >pward@express-news.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >______________________________