I agree abt. not disturbing the cemetaries but not for genealogical reasons. A cemetary or grave should be a sacred place. It's where someone's family member was laid to rest. Desecration of a grave should be a criminal offense. We put our loved ones there i good faith that the grave will not be disturbed. It may not seem important in this modern world to have some old grave taking up space, but how would the person that allows this to happen feel if the grave of thier parents was moved because some developer or government official got a little greedy and wanted to develpoe the place where they were buried. Yes, an old grave or cemetary is part of our history, but they should be more than that and not just to genealogists.A hundred year from know are our graves going to be drug up and rearranged because no one cares about who came before. Our ancestors would be turning in thier graves if they could see what we have become. They were simple and most ueducated, bu are we better? Kim

Martha S. Kelley living in Hot Springs in 1910 (census), with her husband, Authur Cox, and son Louis M. Cox, 1 year old (my father). I have not been able to find anything about the Kelley's. Both of my parents are passed away, they were both the last of their siblings! So, we have no resources. My older brother remembers my dad had an uncle named Tall Kelley (Tall may be a nickname) and his wife's name was Elizabeth.

I favor a more direct approach which would prohibit the disinternment or alteration by removal of any headstones or markers in any cemetery. Having just located my GGG grandmother and several relatives in a lovely rural Kelly family cemetery near Kimball, TN, I think the experience would have lacked quite a bit if I had located it in a computer database. Ed Kelley from Georgia

This is a great idea. Please forward to anyone to inform and to those that might be able to help, and to Congressmen and women I think is a great idea!! Maybe some will pick up on it and consider helping. Thanks, Linda << Start of Forwarded message via Prodigy Mail >> From: Dick Rumage Subject: [TN] Old Cemeteries Date: 08/24 Time: 12:35 PM Return-Path: <owner-tnroots-l@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU> Received: from listserv.indiana.edu (piano.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5. 189]) by clmin2-int.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA48124; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:31:43 -0400 Received: from piano (129.79.5.189) by listserv.indiana.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.BE628F00@listserv.indiana.edu>; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:31:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU by LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU (LISTSERV- TCP/IP release 1.8c) with spool id 12018277 for TNROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:31:31 - 0500 Received: from ctaz.com (207.173.255.1) by listserv.indiana.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.BD571270@listserv.indiana. edu>; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:31:30 -0500 Received: from [207.173.253.27] (ts05-11.ctaz.com [207.173.253.11]) by ctaz.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08928 for <TNROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:32:55 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <v04003a02b207465b896e@[207.173.253.27]> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:34:22 -0700 Reply-To: Dick Rumage <rrumage@CTAZ.COM> Sender: Genealogy discussion for Tennessee <TNROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU> From: Dick Rumage <rrumage@CTAZ.COM> Subject: [TN] Old Cemeteries To: TNROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Unfortunately, given the demand for land now and in the future, it is unlikely that old cemeteries will be preserved forever. Developer's lobbies will see to it. The general public will tolerate it. Therefore, we may be well advised to consider an alternative before further damage is done. How about a law that provides as follows: Any person or organization which owns or controls a cemetery and intends to alter it for whatever reason shall, as a minimum, perform the following acts prior to making such alteration. 1. Make a pictorial and textual record of all physical historical or genealogical elements of such cemetery. Such record shall be of a quality and completeness that will provide a researcher with all of the facts that could have been found by examining the cemetery before alteration. 2. Such record shall include but not be limited to the geographical location, a plat showing the location and name of the occupant (when known) of individual graves, a good quality picture of each grave marker, and pictures of the general location and layout of such cemetery. 3. Legible, reproducible copies of such record shall be filed with the State Library or State Archives, as applicable, of the State within which the cemetery is located prior to altering such cemetery. The person or organization filing such record shall obtain and retain an official receipt for same. 4. The penalty for violating this law shall be severe enough to make compliance economically advantageous to the person or organization planning to make such alterations. 5. The term "cemetery" includes any burial or internment site for human beings. ****************** No doubt the language can be improved but the provisions must be reasonable enough to gain the support of organizations such as Library Associations, Historical Societies, Genealogical Societies, the DAR, and similar state and national organizations. They must also be reasonable enough to make the expected protests of developers unacceptable to legislators and the general public. Any reader who has connections or influence with any of these societies or associations is free to forward this proposal to them. Hopefully, some of them will develop it and pursue implementation. Dick Rumage ----------------------------------------------- Lost your welcome message? Send GET TNROOTS-L WELCOME to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU for another copy. << End of Forwarded message >>

-----Original Message----- From: Darla <djpowell@mail.iamerica.net> To: KELLY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 23, 1998 5:20 PM Subject: KELLY-GA/AL > >I am new to the board. I am working on my husband's line. He is descended >from Charles Kelly. >Charles Kelly dob-24 Dec 1777 > dom 12 Dec 1805 Jackson Co., GA to Elizabeth Howard > dod 10 Oct 1836 Columbiana, Shelby CO., AL > Children: Nancy Kelly 15 Sep 1806-GA > Margaret Kelly 20 Jan 1808-GA > Wilson Kelly-GA > Mahola Kelly 19 Dec 1810-GA > Mary Jamill Kelly 1 Aug 1812-GA > Sarah Kelly 6 May 1814-GA > John Kelly 12 Aug 1814-GA > Charles Kelly 17 Mar 1818-AL > Dickson Kelly 12 Feb1820-AL > Tillman Kelly 8 Nov 1823-AL > Robert Kelly 29 Mar 1825-AL > Elizabeth Ann Kelly 4 Oct 1829-AL > Priscilla Kelly 9 Apr 1831-AL > >Charles daughter Mary Jamil md Edward Baily and settled on Leake >Co,MS..Edward Bailey was a minister in the Cumberland Presbyterian Church. >I would appreciate any help that anyone could give. >Darla Powell > >

I am searching for info. about my gggrandparents, Michael and Ellen KELLY and their daughter, my ggrandmother, Anna KELLY CUNNINGHAM. In the 1860 Census all are listed in KC,MO; Michael and Ellen are 60 and 50 yrs. of age, John and Anna,30 and 20 yrs of age, all four born in Ireland. The CUNNINGHAMS have two children at that time, Mary A., 5 yrs old, born in PA, and Peter, 11 months, born in MO. Other CUNNINGHAM children, born in MO, Michael, Margaret, Bridget (Sister Anna Margaret), John and Edward Thomas (my grandfather). The KELLYs, John and Anna lived the rest of their lives in KC. From family memory it was County Cork they came from, but whether that was KELLY or CUNNINGHAM, I don't know. Judging from Anna's birth in 1840 in Ireland, the KELLYs probably came to U.S. middle to late 1840s, or early 1850s. I don't know if John and Anna were married here or Ireland. There just had to be other siblings of both John and Mary, especially considering Anna's age and her parents' ages in 1860. Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated. Margaret Porter Gardner begaw@juno.com

Researching Kelly/Kelly's who came to Madison Co., MO from NC in the early 1800's by ox wagons in a group with GROUNDS, MOYERS & COTNERS. Robert KELLY b. 1790 in SC. His wife was born 1791 in NC. Looking for his mother and father, and siblings. Linda McDowell limcd@pacbell.net

Looking for any information at all on John Robert Kelly and Sarah Mariah who I believe resided around the Anson County area. Their daughter was Roberta Kelly born 13 JUL 1861 and died 2 NOV 1906. She was married to James Mendenhall Dunlap who was born 8 JUL 1949 and died 14 FEV 1932 in Wadesboro, Anson County, North Carolina. He was a Doctor in Ansonville. TammyTice See my web pages http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/5294/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/c/Tammy-L-Tice/index.html

HI! I am new to the list and hoping someone can help me. I am looking for information on a Sarah Kelly. Some places she if reffered to as Sally Kelly and others as Sarah O'Kelly. She was b. ABt. 1730 in Ireland and married a James Stevenson or Stephenson. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Thanks! Cathy tulsama@worldnet.att.net

Everyone enjoy.... I did!! Linda << Start of Forwarded message via Prodigy Mail >> From: Demastus Subject: [TNMAURY-L] From DUGGER List Date: 08/20 Time: 05:06 PM Return-Path: <TNMAURY-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233. 233]) by clmin1-int.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19190; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:01:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13325; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:53:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Demastus@aol.com Message-ID: <6a2ddd21.35dc8c86@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:52:21 EDT Old-To: DEMASTUS-L@rootsweb.com, TNMAURY-L@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Subject: [TNMAURY-L] From DUGGER List Resent-Message-ID: <"Pd-0OD.A.fPD.xyI31"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> To: TNMAURY-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TNMAURY-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TNMAURY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TNMAURY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1475 X-Loop: TNMAURY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TNMAURY-L-request@rootsweb.com It was the first day of census, and all through the land each pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride, his book and some quills were tucked close by his side. A long winding ride down a road barely there, toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face and wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table and she answered his questions ... the best she was able. He asked her of children. Yes, she had quite a few -- the oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride, and she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the color, the age... the marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head and saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot" was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? They came from Scotland, of that she was clear, but she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such, they could read some ... and write some ... though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done so he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear, "May God bless you all for another ten years." Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me as we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census and scroll down so slow as we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could they only imagine on that long ago day that the entries they made would effect us this way? If they knew would they wonder at the yearning we feel and the searching that makes them so increasingly real. We can hear if we listen the words they impart through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. --- Author unknown. ==== TNMAURY Mailing List ==== Please remember to include your SURNAMES in the SUBJECT Line. << End of Forwarded message >> <Prodigy Distribution List> TO: WRFC71A TO: PXQX69A

dkelly@digitalis.net Is there anyone out there researching the Dennis Kelly family of Ashkum, Illinois? Also has anyone ever heard the name Claus C. Kaspersun? I really need help with this and any information of these two men would really help/ Valerie at dkelly@digitalis.net

My grandmother was Martha S. Kelley. She is listed in the 1910 census with her husband (Authur Cox) and my father (Louis M. Cox 1yr. old) as living in Hot Springs AR. Also, listed as living with them were Elzie Cox and his wife, my grandfathers brother, and Charles and Mary Evans, we think Mary was either my grandmothers sister or my grandfathers step-sister. The census says that her mother and father were from Alabama. My brother, who is the oldest of our generation, remembers an Uncle Tall and Aunt Elizabeth Kelley who lived within driving distance. There was also a cousin named Jack and his wife, Ruby Kelley. I have a picture of my grandparents if anyone thinks they might be able to recognize them. Martha died in 1917-18. She caught her clothes on fire at a wood burning stove and burned to death, (we don't know where she is buried). Authur died in 1935 and is buried in Hot Springs. Martha and Authur had 3 children, Louis, Lillian and Bonnie. So Little Information! Thank You! Mary Cox-Laraby LinkerUp@jps.net

Hi all! Looking for family of EMMY J. KELLEY b. give or take 1825 m. Va (WVa.now) William DeBerry b. 1825 WVa. (north-east nr. Pa. & Md. borders). Would someone check their books, please??? Carolyn

Hi, Kelley's. My wife is the Kelley of the family. I've been researching her tree for a year or so, starting at a cemetry (Concord Baptist Church Cemetery) in Anderson Co., TX near the cities of Palestine and Tyler, East Texas. I will send an outline of the basics of her family tree to see if anyone out there on the list may be connected. By the way, I use Broderbund's Family Tree Maker Ver. 5.0. Starting as far back as I can go: William C. Kelly b.1775 in Belfast. Came to NC as a small child. Parents ?. m. Temperance Tabitha Simkin 2-11-1811 in Johnson Co., NC. All 4 children born in NC. d. 12-19-1843 in AL. 1. John C. Kelley b. 1816. d. 2-11-1879 Chambers Co., TX. m. (1)Eliza Smith (2) Lucinda E. Hoskins 12-20-1869. John also called "Jack" in a few references. . 2. Jennie Kelley b. abt. 1820. m. ? Smith d. ? 3. Joel Parish Kelley b. 10-3-1825, d. 2-19-1872 in Concord, Anderson Co., TX. m. Deborah Ansafee Funderburk. 4. Malinda Kelley, b. 1827 d. ? in Concord, TX. WC Kelley and family moved from NC to AL in the early 1830's. WC died there ( where in AL ?) . His wife Tabitha and rest of family moved to Union Parrish, LA in 1842. Near Farmerville in Northern LA. They lived there for about 27 years. My wife's great greatparents are Joel Parrish Kelley and Deborah Ansafee Funderburk, married in 1845 in Farmerville, LA. All eight children were born in Union Parrish, LA. In 1869 the whole Kelley families ( all brothers and sisters were married then) left LA and moved to Concord, TX. Malinda was a widow and Joel became the guardian of her children . John C. Kelley and family went on and did not settle at Concord. Van R. Funderburk ( Deborah's brother) and family also came to TX. Joel Parish Kelley was a founder of the church and donated the property for the Cemetery. He died in 1872 and was the first buried there. My wife's line: Bonnie Caroline (Stanford) Sulser W. C. Kelley b. 1775, Ireland m. Temperance Tabitha Simpkin Joel P. Kelley b. 1825 NC m. Deborah A. Funderburk, LA Baron DeKalb (Cal) Kelley b. 1850 TX m. Virginia Fitzgerald Lauder Thomas Enoch Kelley b. 1874 m. Ida Alice Morrow Ethel Caroline Kelley b. 1914 TX m. Samuel Henry Stanford Bonnie Caroline Stanford b. 1943 m. Philip Ray Sulser children: Lauria Kristine (Sulser) Wagner Katherine Kelley (Sulser) Nellenback Most of the Kelley family from Joel through Thomas are buried at the cemetery in Concord which has a state historical marker. I have all of the names of the children of Joel P. Kelley but won't list them here. I am interested if this family may connect to any of yours. Thanks. Phil Sulser

Beth I'm not of this line of Kelleys as far as I know at this time. There has been a "Genealogical Account of the Descendants of John Kelly of Newbury, Massachusetts, U.S.A." written by Giles M. Kelly. It was originally published in 1886. You can get a paper bound copy of it from Higginson Book Company, P O Box 778, Salem, MA 01970, for I believe it cost $28.50 plus $4.75 postage. If you like send me a private e-mail with your snail mail address and I'll send you a order form or you can write to the above address for a catalog. Sincerely Jerry Kelley Indiana ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 20:24:35 EDT BSmith7439@aol.com writes: >Hello to everyone on the Kelley list. I've been here before, but I'll >send my >info. again. > >My KELLEY/KELLY family lived in Newbury, Massachusetts in 1600's. >John >KELLEY/KELLY, born abt. 1615 in England, was one of the earliest >settlers. I >just got back from New England and I uncovered a lot of info. on this >family, >which I'd be glad to share. > >John KELLEY had two children: Sarah and John, Jr., 1642. There is no >info. on >his wife's name. John, Jr. married Sarah KNIGHT, born 1648. They had >10 >children, one of whom was John III, who married Elizabeth EMERY. John >and >Elizabeth EMERY KELLEY had 11 children, and I descend through their >son Daniel >who married Mercy SMITH. > >I have a lot of info. on the KELLEYs, as I said. If you descend from >this >family also, I'd like to hear from you. > >Beth >BSmith7439@aol.com > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Just found my "Kelley" connection. Emmy J. Kelley married William DeBerry b. 1825 and they lived on the north of Preston Co., WVa., near the Pa. and Md. borders. They had 8 known children: Catherine b. 1852 Reedsville, WVa. (my line) m. Newton Lucien Parks Edgar S. b. 1862 (S. may stand for Stuck) Emma J. b. 1869 Louisana b. 1867 L. Alice b. 1864 Claripa J. b. 1854 Marshall W. b. 1856 Felix A. b. 1858 Do the names, above, give anyone a clue? I need her parents and dates for any or all! Sure hope someone can help me! Carolyn (Md. retired to NC)

Hello ! I have a Kelley line found in Hamilton Co., Ill. 1850.. John (b/Ga @1795) and Rachel (?) (b/Tenn) Kelley believed to be the parents of Oliver Kelley, lived in the Hamilton and Franklin Cos of Ill. He was a JP and father of several children including David mrrd Julia (Boster) Kelley John Henry mrrd/@1896 Ill.) Flora Belle (Snover) Kelley They had 12 children before John Henry died in 1914 My problem is locating these Kelleys before they arrived in Ill and finding this early John Kelley's family in early Ga or maybe S.C.? I'm one of John Henry and Flora Belle's greatgrandchildren and any help would be appreciated! Carolyn Ryherd Green Northeastern Texas area I'm a person 'divided' Mother from Texas and Father from Illinois! 8-)

I am new to the list, I look forward working and learning here. I will give a short history on my kelley family. I am Liam J. Kelley 1939- b. New Haven County, CT USA Father George F. Kelley 2/15/1907 b. Hartford County, CT USA d 12/31/1997 New Haven County USA G Father Thomas Kelly 1/29/1880 b. County Longford, Granard area Ireland Emigrated Derby CT. USA 1883 d7/15/1956 New Haven County USA GG Father James Kelly no birth date Wife Ann (Tierney) Kelley Parents of eleven children. Two of the children died in Ireland, one in a fire and one drown. The rest of the family came to Derby CT. The Father James did return to Ireland in later years. He of course is the subject of my search. I understand that he returned to the farm in Longford. That was the only information I could get out of family records. all help in tracing James and his family in Ireland will be appreciated. Regards, Liam J. Kelley W4100@aol.com

Hello to everyone on the Kelley list. I've been here before, but I'll send my info. again. My KELLEY/KELLY family lived in Newbury, Massachusetts in 1600's. John KELLEY/KELLY, born abt. 1615 in England, was one of the earliest settlers. I just got back from New England and I uncovered a lot of info. on this family, which I'd be glad to share. John KELLEY had two children: Sarah and John, Jr., 1642. There is no info. on his wife's name. John, Jr. married Sarah KNIGHT, born 1648. They had 10 children, one of whom was John III, who married Elizabeth EMERY. John and Elizabeth EMERY KELLEY had 11 children, and I descend through their son Daniel who married Mercy SMITH. I have a lot of info. on the KELLEYs, as I said. If you descend from this family also, I'd like to hear from you. Beth BSmith7439@aol.com

Sorry that I didn't include my E-Mail address: trayrobert@aol.com Trying to locate additional info on David Kelly parents, siblings and his children. I've already got quite a bit of data on Aaron, my mother's great grand father. ----------------------------- 1. David KELLY, born 1770 in New Jersey; deceased 1850 in Shamokin Twp, Northumberland Co, Pennsylvania. He married Mary, born 1773 in New Jersey; deceased 1851. Children of David Kelly and Mary were as follows: i Joseph Benjamin, born 1800; deceased in Rush Baptist Cemetery, Pennsylvania. Aaron, born 26 Jul 1806 in Shamokin Twp, Northumberland Co, Pennsylvania; deceased 21 May 1892 in Galion, Crawford Co, Ohio, in the home of Dr. Hiram Rockefeller Kelly; Reburied. Moved to North Woodbury, Morrow Co, Ohio in 1855. Member of the I.O.O.F. Shamokin lodge in Aug 8, 1846 and was transferred to the Johnsville lodge. Samuel, born 2 Oct 1808; deceased 29 Jul 1886. Married (1) Maria Rockefeller and (2) Anna Miller David, born 19 Jul 1810; deceased 26 Aug 1854 in Eden Cemetery. Jane, born 1812. She married Daniel Weaver. Susan, born 1814. She married William Bear. Hannah, born 1816. She married Enzekiel Yarnell. Sarah, born 1818. She married Benjamin Kreigbaum. Anna, born 1820. She married William A Spratt. ------------------------------- Thank you. Terry Roberts trayrobert@aol.com