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    1. Re: AMBROSE KELLY/KELLEY
    2. Phyllis Miller Fleming
    3. Sandy and all KELLEY/KELLY cousins with ancestors in Ohio, I planned to post my request about Ambrose KELLY of Preble Co, OH, just as soon as I finished reading the mail. Nice surprise to see Sandy also interested in an Ambrose KELLY. Ambrose D. KELLY bc 1800 m Eliza FLEMING Harlan 26 Nov 1839. They had one child, Jeremiah bc 1842. Jeremiah had two half siblings fromm Eliza's first marriage, John Gregg HARLAN and Nancy Elizabeth HARLAN Rothrock. In a FLEMING estate document, Eliza (FLEMING Harlan) Kelly is listed as a widow in a document dated 20 Jun 1846. Do you have any dates on your Ambrose? Eliza was cared for in her later life by her daughter Nancy. I do know from Nancy's will that Jeremiah was still living in 1880 when Nancy wrote her last will & testiment. However, I have found no trace of Jeremiah in Indiana. I think Jeremiah was maybe still in Ohio. I also think Ambrose died in Ohio. Just guesses. The Preble Co Courthouse has microfilmed all their guardianship and estate papers. FTM has a CD listing the papers available for copies ($0.50/pg) or you can write Nancy Crowell at the Preble Co Library and for a very modest fee, she will send you a list of documents available at the courthouse. I have a friend with the FTM CD, but she is on vacation this week. I will have her check for any information on Ambrose, Jeremiah and Sarah Ann Kelly. Phyllis Miller Fleming Shelbyville, IN plfleming@shelbynet.net Sandy McDougall wrote: > > Does any one know of the family of Ambrose KELLY/KELLEY who married Sarah > STOCKTON 1823 in Preble County, Ohio. I know of only one daughter, Sarah > Ann born 1824 married David MC ELHANEY 1846 in Preble Co. > > Thank you Sandy > sandy@mosquitonet.com > > ==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== > If you don't get a response to your posting, keep sending it to this > list. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again...as the old saying goes.

    10/11/1998 10:34:42
    1. Kelley vs Kelly
    2. Carolyn R. Green
    3. Hi Listers; I too have been scanning the replies for the spelling differences and possible 'explanations' for the differences. My Aunt has always been adamant that 'ours' were KellEy and the others weren't related. This has 'proven' true for the most part, though as we all have experienced census takers and their lack of education and 'our' lack of a spelling standard until this century, I've always watched for the other data to 'prove' my families (ie: names,birth date/ages,locations, etc.). Another branch of my family had their probable German name anglizied when they moved from Pa into Va around 1800. We still haven't found the true immigrant spelling of this family but again around 1850 it seems two sons 'chose' to spell the name RIherd and my branch (son) chose to spell his line with a RYherd variation (I won't go into the various census spellings here). (Speculation has another line may have chosen to spell it RICHARD and thus confuse it with an English lineage.) This is all part of our Interesting Genealogical Research and it's even More interesting when you/I've gotten into the Patronmic surname lines of my Dutch ancestry in New York in the 1600's...each child could chose a different abcestor's 1st name for their surname...a son, whose father was Andries, may chose James Martinson For a grandfather) and another son may chose John Johnson (for another grandfather) and the girls may be Jane Johnsdatter or Mattinsdatter or even Mary Adriesdatter.......all siblings! Happy Hunting and Learning!!! 8-) Carolyn

    10/11/1998 10:17:06
    1. Kellie in Scotland
    2. Paula Ward
    3. Tim, Here's a website for Clan Kellie in Scotland--including Kellogg and a few other spelling variations: Clan Kellie In Scotland http://www.winternet.com/~rlkelog/KelloggHistory/ScottlandInfo.html (yes, that's two Scottland with two t's!) Paula Kelley Ward San Antonio, Texas pward@express-news.net "Genealogy is the art of confusing the dead and irritating the living.” ---------- > From: tim Lake <tlake@nwlink.com> > To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Kelly/Kelley/Kellie > Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 10:16 PM > > Just when you thought you were confused between Kelly and Kelley, > along comes a record that spells it KELLIE ! > > My Kelly family was from Midlothian, Scotland in the early 1800's. > Thomas Kelly moved to Dundalk, Co Louth, Ireland about 1895.

    10/11/1998 10:02:39
    1. Biographical & Historical websites
    2. Paula Ward
    3. Look for KELLEY, KELLY, O'KELLY...or any other surname, in: Biography http://www.biography.com/find/index.html Biographical Dictionary http://www.s9.com/biography/ Notable Women Ancestors http://www.rootsweb.com/~nwa/ Distinguished Women of Past and Present http://www.netsrq.com/~dbois/ Women's International Center: Biographies http://www.wic.org/bio/idex_bio.htm WPA Life Histories - http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/wpaintro/wpahome.html Making of America http://www.umdl.umich.edu/moa/index.html A digital library of primary sources in American social history, this resource currently contains 4,058 volumes online. Paula Kelley Ward San Antonio, Texas pward@express-news.net "Genealogy is the art of confusing the dead and irritating the living.”

    10/11/1998 09:45:17
    1. Kelly/Kelley/Kellie
    2. tim Lake
    3. Just when you thought you were confused between Kelly and Kelley, along comes a record that spells it KELLIE ! My Kelly family was from Midlothian, Scotland in the early 1800's. Thomas Kelly moved to Dundalk, Co Louth, Ireland about 1895. His son, Alexander, remained in Edinburgh. He married in 1903 and moved to London, Ontario, Canada the same year. After W.W.I., the family moved to Southern California. As for religion, Thomas converted to Catholicism for his second wife about 1895 but was not Catholic originally. Some family members are, some aren't. Bottom line, don't base the family religion only on the spelling of the name. And Kelly/Kelley family ancestors aren't always from Ireland (although I've been told that if I research back to the 1400's, mine probably did come from Ireland....we'll see, if I could only be lucky enough to get back that far! Lynn Lake tlake@nwlink.com Washington State, USA

    10/11/1998 09:16:09
    1. Re: KELLEY-KELLY ?????????
    2. Thia
    3. What a wonderful idea! I am currently going through boxes of old photocopies and such. I'll post whatever I run across regarding Kelly(ey)s. Thia firewalker wrote: <snip> > Tell ya what? Instead of what or who we are searching for...how about > the > KELL(E)Y's stuff that might be of interest we have found along the > way, but > for some reason is not our line....... > <snip> > I live here in NC on the ocean and in this area are very small single > family > graveyards. I am sure they are like this all across the country. > If you are out there searching small family graveyards, remember and > write > the info down. > > As I said I thought instead of asking for an elusive KELLY I haven't > been > able to find so far.........I might just post some info I have found > who I > am certain is someone's line but, as of yet doesn't connect to my > line. > > If it helps great!! If not at least tried. > > Mike Kelly > </snip> -- Thia Hatcher {researching the Hatcher, Thatcher, Vandergriff, Gulley, Smith, Hardin (-den, -ding), Birdwell, Gann, Brouayer (Bruyer, Bruyere), VanSandt (Van Sant), Bleistein, Groesbeck (Groesbeeck), Copass (Copas, Copus, etc...), Williams, Emmerson, Shadrick, Cox, Lacey (Lacy), Gass, Condra (Condry, Condray), Pitcock, Stansberry, Eldridge, Connor (-er), Thurman, Ledbetter, Cowan, Rogers, Kelly (Kelley), Thompson and Laymon (-an, -en), Lehman(n), Lemon, Leman, (+countless others I've probably left out) lines.}

    10/11/1998 08:51:24
    1. Re: KELLEY-KELLY ?????????
    2. Thia
    3. Hello All! Unfortunately, I'm bouncing off a similar brick wall. I am looking for the family of Tyre (could be spelled Terry) Kelly (ey) b. ca. 1820 m. 04 Jan 1839 at McMinn County, Tennessee to Delilah EMMERSON b. ca. 1818. One of their sons has the middle name Glaspy which may mean that there was a Gillespie (or some such spelling) connection at one time. Maybe the two of us along with another couple of cousins should start a secret society of McMinn Co. Kelly(ey)s. They do seem to be a secretive lot. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thia RoladexMOM@aol.com wrote: > Well, I have read all the discussion about the KELLEY-KELLY spellings > for the > last few days and still am not any closer to finding the KELLEY that I > need. > Its seems that my KELLEY'S have disappeared from this world. I know a > lot of > them came over here from the "Old" country and the Irish are second to > the > Germans in settling here but when it comes to tracing them down I have > hit a > blank wall. I'm not as lucky as most of you are by having been able to > go back > into the last 2 centuries...........I'm still stuck in the 20th > century. > HELP. > Looking for > James Herschel KELLEY > b. 1904 or 1905 . Athens TN? > m. May 17,1922..Winifred Larose HEDGE > one child.dau.Jean Colleen > > I have the HEDGE side but have nothing on the KELLEY side. I do not > know who > James parents were. He had a sister Pauline. age unknown. > Any help you can give me will be appreciated very much. > > Jean > > ==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== > Do not send attachments to the list. Attachments cause major problems > for those who subscribe to the list in Digest format. -- Thia Hatcher {researching the Hatcher, Thatcher, Vandergriff, Gulley, Smith, Hardin (-den, -ding), Birdwell, Gann, Brouayer (Bruyer, Bruyere), VanSandt (Van Sant), Bleistein, Groesbeck (Groesbeeck), Copass (Copas, Copus, etc...), Williams, Emmerson, Shadrick, Cox, Lacey (Lacy), Gass, Condra (Condry, Condray), Pitcock, Stansberry, Eldridge, Connor (-er), Thurman, Ledbetter, Cowan, Rogers, Kelly (Kelley), Thompson and Laymon (-an, -en), Lehman(n), Lemon, Leman, (+countless others I've probably left out) lines.}

    10/11/1998 07:51:51
    1. AMBROSE KELLY/KELLEY
    2. Sandy McDougall
    3. Does any one know of the family of Ambrose KELLY/KELLEY who married Sarah STOCKTON 1823 in Preble County, Ohio. I know of only one daughter, Sarah Ann born 1824 married David MC ELHANEY 1846 in Preble Co. Thank you Sandy sandy@mosquitonet.com

    10/11/1998 06:33:07
    1. Kelley vs. Kelly
    2. Jim Moses
    3. Our Kelley line has always, to my knowledge, been Catholic, and spelled the name with the 'e'. I have seen it without the 'e' in some documents, though, so I have thought that the person writing the document must have a preferred spelling. By the way, I am interested in NY Kelleys. My Kelley line starts with Michael, probably born between 1800 and 1808, and his wife, Catharine _____, born between 1805 and 1810, depending on which census record you use. They both may have died in Mt. Morris, Livingston County, NY, but I do not have proof of anything, even dates. They had, according to my records, nine children. All were born in NY, with the last two being born in Mt. Morris. They are: John, Michael, Mary A., James, Thomas, Frank, Jane, Charles Alfred, and Kitty. Charles Alfred is my direct ancestor. John may have been a NY representative in the 34th and 35th Congresses. The line continues today in Ionia County MI. If anyone has any information on my line I would love to hear from you. I am currently trying to trace John and his role in the Congress, and I am also trying to find out when the family arrived in New York. I have no idea except that I have found Michael and Catharine in the 1850 and 1860 census and their oldest son, John was born in NY about 1833 or 1834. Thanks, Jim Moses

    10/11/1998 05:48:32
    1. RE: Results, Conclusions, and apologies
    2. J L RIDLEY
    3. Hi Everyone, It's me again. Due to the sheer volume of response to last night's query, I'm posting this to the list. I will respond to everyone individually, but not tonight, it's late, I'm tired and I didn't expect nearly the reponse I received. Thanks to everyone who responded, I do appreciate that you took the time and effort to answer my question. And I sincerely apologize to those of you who were offended at 'the ridiculous attempt to put a religious sterotype to the spelling of a name". That is a paraphrase, more than one person was offended and I am truely sorry. That wasn't my intent, nor did I mean to imply that the axiom was true. It was a question asked, not a theory stated. I asked because my elder was so positive about his answer, it is true that, so far at least, records have shown that all of our Kelley's have historically been not only active, but usually quite prominent in the Protestant Church (there have been many minisiters in my branch of Kelleys), and when I started making an informal poll among my own family, unanimously all the elders, sided together. I have a great deal of respect for my elders. Yes, they sometimes believe old wives tales and hand them down as fact. But had their position been borne out by the responses I got, it would not have been the first time that they knew something I didn't. So you see, it truely was a question I felt I needed an answer to, not an attempt to sterotype anyone. I also did not mean to force everyone to cover ground that had already been hashed out long ago. I am fairly new to the listing and juno is a mail service, not a net provider. I didn't realize that the question had already been asked and answered. To those of you who are interested in the results of the polling....... Among my family members, as I have already stated, the elders are unanimous in their belief "Kelley" = Protestant. Kelly = Catholic. Among the younger generations, 31% side with the elders, the other 69% believe the spelling was a combination of unstandardized spelling and literacy. Of the e-mail responses I got, again 30% had had the same tradition handed down to them. 12% were from Catholic "Kelleys". 18% were from Protestant "Kellys". The other 30% had never heard the theory before, didn't think the spelling made any difference, thought it may have held true at some time in the past, but no longer mattered, had found their own name spelled both ways in the records,sometimes, even in the same record, expressed curiousity about what response I got to the question, or put forth the unstandardized spelling and literacy theory. A few of you shared some wonderful stories or histories from your own knowledge, experience and family history. I loved hearing from some of you about the evolution of the Kelley name. I truely mean that, I love that sort of 'history lesson'. Thanks to all of you, Jan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    10/11/1998 05:04:55
    1. Benjiman Webster Kelley line... KY, MS, TX
    2. I thought I would post this again, as I have never been able to find any relatives from this line. Everything I have is from census search and county records. I think a key in my family is the middle name Webster and the middle name Axton. My Benjiman Webster Kelley, Sr. lived in Mississippi as a single man before he married Mary E. Hobbs. There were no other Kelley/Kelly families anywhere near him. For some reason I feel the University in Oxford, Ms is the key to his being in that part of Mississippi. I do not know why he left Ky, but he apparently went to Ms alone. If any of you have run across Kelley's, Axton's and Webster's in the same area, let me hear from you. Descendants of Benjiman Webster Kelley, Sr. 1 Benjiman Webster Kelley, Sr. b: 1824 in Ky d: Bef. 1900 in Ms or Tx .. +Mary E. Hobbs b: 06 Mar 1842 in Lafayette, Ms d: Aft. 1920 in Tx . 2 Arizona Kelley b: 1860 in Lafayette, Ms ..... +J. E. Delesy b: 1852 in La . 2 C B Kelley b: 1863 . 2 David Axton Kelley b: 1865 in Lafayette, Ms ..... +Mary Ella Kingston b: 1881 in Tx ..... 3 Leon Wesley Kelley b: 29 Sep 1897 in Cass, Tx d: Dec 1981 in Bryan, Ok ..... 3 Corrie B. Kelley b: 1901 in Cass, Tx ..... 3 Calvin Ellis Kelley b: 06 Apr 1903 in Cass, Tx d: Sep 1965 in Atoka, Ok ..... 3 George Frederick Kelley b: 31 May 1907 in Cass, Tx d: May 1972 in Atoka, Ok . 2 W G Kelley b: 1868 . 2 Mary E. Kelley b: Oct 1871 in Ms ..... +Bond d: Bef. 1900 in Tx ..... 3 Lizzie Bond b: Apr 1900 in Cass, Tx . 2 Benjiman Webster Kelley, Jr. b: 16 Apr 1874 in Ms d: 15 Jan 1960 in Wichita Falls, Wichita, Tx ..... +Mattie Lee Anna Moore b: 11 Dec 1884 in Gilmer, Upshur, Tx d: 23 Apr 1972 in Weatherford, Parker, Tx ..... 3 Winnie Mae Kelley b: 11 Dec 1904 in near Dalton Cass, Tx d: 08 Nov 1978 in Sherman, Grayson, Tx ..... 3 Howard George Webster Kelley b: 22 Sep 1907 in Near Naples, Cass, Tx d: 04 May 1967 in Childress, Childress, Tx ......... +Ruby Olivia Price b: 24 Feb 1914 in McLean, Gray, Tx ..... 3 James Dewie Kelley b: 13 Oct 1911 in Naples, Morris, Tx d: 22 Sep 1970 in Wichita Falls, Wichita, Tx ..... 3 Onie Lee Kelley b: 26 Jan 1917 in Naples, Morris, Tx ..... 3 Addie Beatrice Kelley b: 26 Oct 1918 in Naples, Morris, Tx ..... 3 Bennie Lovetta Kelley b: 20 Sep 1926 in Childress, Childress, Tx . 2 Daniel Boone Kelley b: 26 Mar 1876 in Ms d: 22 Dec 1937 in Naples, Morris, Tx ..... +Fannie Schafer b: 05 May 1876 in Tx d: 31 Mar 1943 in Naples, Morris, Tx ..... 3 Infant Kelley b: 1898 in Cass, Tx d: Bef. 1900 in Cass, Tx ..... 3 Lolan Kelley b: Mar 1900 in Cass, Tx d: Bef. 1910 in Cass, Tx ..... 3 Daniel H. Kelley b: 01 Feb 1904 in Cass, Tx d: Bef. 1910 in Cass, Tx ..... 3 Jim Floyd Kelley b: 11 Feb 1906 in Cass, Tx d: Sep 1964 in Morris, Tx ..... 3 Henry Jack Kelley b: 14 Dec 1907 in Cass, Tx d: Apr 1983 in Alba, Wood, Tx . 2 Parlina Kelley b: Feb 1878 in Ms ..... +Joel H. Dean b: Feb 1873 in Al ..... 3 Noah Dean b: Aug 1896 in Cass, Tx ......... +Myrtle A. b: in Tx ..... 3 Arnold Henry Dean b: 25 May 1899 in Cass, Tx d: Oct 1969 in El Paso, El Paso, Tx ..... 3 Lewis Dean b: 1904 in Cass, Tx ..... 3 Joe B. Dean b: 1906 in Cass, Tx ..... 3 Ada A. Dean b: 1909 in Cass, Tx ..... 3 Jack Dean b: 1914 in Cass, Tx ..... 3 Ina M. Dean b: 1918 in Cass, Tx . 2 Cindy b: May 1880 in Panola, Ms ..... +John T. Nunn b: Dec 1869 in Tx ..... 3 Almer C. Nunn b: Apr 1899 in Tx

    10/11/1998 04:27:32
    1. Kelley vs Kelly
    2. Bill and Tillie O'Kelley
    3. Jan wrote (among others!) that: I am told by my relative that to spell Kelley with just the 'y', indicates that the bearer of the name was an Irish Catholic, and that the 'ey' ending indicates that he/she was a Protestant Irishman, and no self-respecting protestant Kelley would allow the name to be spelled with just the Y. As you can see by the email address, I am an O'Kelley, and my husband has told me the same story, only he said that the O'KELLY spelling signified that the person was Northern Ireland Catholic, and O'KELLEY signified that the person was Southern Ireland Protestant. (Of course, that could be because, being a born and bred "Southerner", he would never admit to the spelling of his name being ANYTHING but from the South, no matter what the country! ) :o) I think, more probably, that it was just spelled however whoever had the pencil spelled it! Does anyone out there have any definitive "proof" of why the spellings differ? On the Genforum website, the only one you can pull up is spelled O'Kelly, without the extra "e", although both spellings are listed once you get there. I'm descended from Dorcas Kelly of Campbell County, Virginia, and I am also unsure how that name was spelled...I've seen it spelled both ways. By the way, she was the first wife of Henry Hines, Sr., also of Campbell County, Va. Any information or ideas gladly accepted and appreciated. Tillie Smith O'Kelley

    10/11/1998 04:03:20
    1. Kelly, John Barney
    2. My Kelly -- Andrew Jackson Kelly -- was a Baptist preacher. There was another "Kelley" family who lived in the same community as my Kellys, and my grandmother was very adament that they were not related to our Kellys. I don't think they were Catholic; as a matter of fact I don't think they attended church. Linda

    10/11/1998 03:55:26
    1. John Charles Kelly
    2. RICH & KATHY CLEVELAND
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FB0B48875F35F21870AF0A5D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail-gw.pacbell.net id NAA12942 Hi, I am looking for information on a John Charles Kelly, was in Fayette, Iowa, a member of the town council, a carpenter by trade. He had a son Leo Vincent Kelly b. 17 Sept. 1905, Dickens, Clay, Iowa.=A0 Does this match anyone out there? Thanks, Kathy -- http://home.pacbell.net/rclevela/index.html =A0 --------------FB0B48875F35F21870AF0A5D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=x-user-defined; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Description: Card for RICH & KATHY CLEVELAND Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin: vcard fn: RICH & KATHY CLEVELAND n: ;RICH & KATHY CLEVELAND email;internet: rclevela@pacbell.net x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------FB0B48875F35F21870AF0A5D--

    10/11/1998 02:28:22
    1. Re: Kelley vs Kelly
    2. Bill & Carolee
    3. I'm not sure if Jan's elderly family member is correct but my Kelly's were Catholic, and they changed from ey to y in the mid 1850's or later... My Michael Kelly was born to Thomas and Ellen Kelley in San Francisco and moved to NY. My mom remembers my Grandm. getting indignant when somone called her Irish. She wasn't Irish she said, she was an American ! Carolee cchapman@seward.net -----Original Message----- From: J L RIDLEY <lb3657@juno.com> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 4:42 PM Subject: RE: Kelley vs Kelly

    10/11/1998 02:21:09
    1. Kelley - IL
    2. Richard Heyduck
    3. My William Carroll Kelley was b. abt. 1826 in TN or IL. He married in Williamson Co. IL in 1849 to Polly Jordan. He had a cousin named Andrew J. Mann. The family has always insisted on "ey" though the records that report on them are not entirely consistent. Richard Heyduck

    10/11/1998 01:26:28
    1. Kelley/Kelly
    2. My husband's Kelley/Kelly line was spelled both ways on headstones & documents. The early ones [late 1700's-1860's] was mostly Kelly. During the Civil War, his great-grandfather's paperwork was spelled both ways. He couldn't read or write. His family from then on spelled it KELLEY, his siblings spells it KELLY to this day. As far back as we have traced the family, they were all Baptist. Most of the spellings got changed because people couldn't read or write. We have talked to many people who spell their last name one way and a cousin spells it another way.

    10/11/1998 01:00:03
    1. Kelley--Kelly from Mo.
    2. Here is page two of the listing of the Kelley--Kelly's thats passed away in Holt County, Mo. Hope it can help someone. Eldon Wayne Kelly d-3-19-1919 Donald E ugene d-1949 Orpeus M Kelly d-4-5-1931 Louise Grace Kelly Miller d-10-31-1952 Russle M Kelly d-10-30-1945 Oma Kissinger Kelly d-7-23-1901 Glen Eldon Kelly d-9-6-1919 Elder Jeremiah Kelly d-12-14-1920 Hiram Rockerfeller Elmore " H.R.E." Kelly d-12-24-1940 Anna Lou Dills Kelly d-9-17-1933 Harry E. Kelly d-8-17-1970 Muriel Miller Kelly d-1923 Nyda Collins Kelly d-9-28-1970 George Kelly d-12-24-1864 age 29 Mary A Kelly d-2-9-1866 Strauther S Kelly d-3-27-1865 Howard Kelly d-4-8-1923 age 67 Lucy Ann moyer Kelly d-12-1916 Samuel Kelly d-3-2-1906 Ova Kelly d-5-3-1916 age 20 Mrs Geogre Kelly d-12-1906 JM Kelly d-9-1906 I hope this can help someone out there. There is a little bit on some of the people that was listed. Let me know and i can send it to you. Happy Hunting, Vicki majikfoxy@aol.com

    10/11/1998 12:32:57
    1. Fw: KELLY/Co Kildare, Ireland, san Francisco
    2. Ellen Byrne
    3. TRY AGAIN. -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Byrne <dande@mail.tds.net> To: KELLY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 9:01 AM Subject: KELLY/Co Kildare, Ireland, san Francisco :Hi-since Kelly is the 2nd most common name in Ireland the last I heard-Byrne is :7th-it is always a long shot, guess they were once all related. My husband's :grgrandparents Thomas and Mary Kelly Byrne m 1831, Ballysax, Suncroft Catholic :Parish, Co Kildare, Ireland. About 1867 they went to San Francisco. :Mary was the dau of Daniel and Sarah Byrne Kelly. the witnesses were: James :Byrne, John Flood. At leat one of Mary's sisters to San Francisco. About 1848, :never sure if she was alone, but on the way to San Francisco she married an :Irishman she met on the ship in Chile. Robert John Tobin. At that time there :was a wait for a ship to go on to CA, sometimes as much as a year (that is what :I have heard). Robert and Lucy Agnes Kelly did not have any children. Have some :other siblings names that were baptized in Co Kildare but dont know if any :others to CA. Good luck. Ellen Byrne, dande@mail.tds.net : :

    10/11/1998 12:22:55
    1. DIFFERENT KELLEY--KELLY in Mo
    2. I received this thru the mail and i thought i would post it in case it could help someone else. This came from GONE HOME by Eileen Derr HOLT County Mo. James H.Kelley d-10-15-1876 age 43 Claude Kelley d-5-28-1922 William Kelley d-4-1-1915 age 84 Henry S Kelley d-2-1-1911 age 78 Mrs HS Kelley d-2-9-1900 Bertie Kelley d-5-4-1882 Mrs Harry Kelly d-4-5-1924 age 35 Mary Stuart Kelley d-11-6-1851 John Kelley d-9-26-1868 James Kelly d-8-24-1855 age 81 o87 Charlotte Kelly d-9-2-1859 age 80 Nancy Kelly d-3-30-1873 age 42 William Kelly d-1-30-1913 age 56 Cassandra Perrigo Kelly d-9-17-1916 George W Kelly d-11-24-1910 Irene Kelly d-1-3-1934 Isabel Kelly d-12-12-1945 James William Kelly d-4-20-1931 Sarah H Brimhall Kelly d-3-4-1939 Alice Kelly d-7-28-1808 age 5 F W Kelly d-3-13-1873 ahe 22 Nancy Kelly Nellie P Beeler Kelly d-2-5-1903 Author Webb Kelly d-7-1920 Anna Elizabth McCuire Kelly d-12-4-1872 Author Clarence Kelly d-12-30-1911 William M Kelly d- 5=20-1963 William J Kelly d-1966 Martha Blanche Kelly d-1976 There is others that i'll post shortly Vicki majikfoxy@aol.com

    10/11/1998 10:54:23