OK......I will take the bait. Could you please expound on 'orange' Irish? Where did the moniker come from? History of it? And, so on.... Mike -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Holt <plholt@onramp.net> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 8:46 PM Subject: Re: KELLEY vs KELLY >Just a thought, but when I once spoke to my father, years ago, I was curious to know if we were "orange" Irish since we weren't >Catholic. The most I could get out of him was a "yes". OK, I'll attempt this one. I believe once again that you have to look to Irish history for the answer to this. I believe that the "orange" which usually denotes Irish Protestants comes from the fact that one of the British monarchs at one point was William of Orange. I found the following chronology at this page: http://www.trailerpark.com/phase2/bladocel/90chron.html. Please realize that I haven't verified the chronology but am using it for the sake of this explanation. I do believe that the chronology follows with history. Note: Dates of days and months are given according to the calendar used in the British Isles before 1752 which was ten days behind the present reckoning in the years preceding 1700 and eleven days behind in the years 1700-1752 14 May 1660 Charles II proclaimed king in Dublin 31 July 1662 Act of Settlement establishes the ownership of disputed Irish land in favor of existing Cromwellian proprietors. 21 August 1663 Court of claims, appoints under the Act of Settlement closes after issuing 566 decrees of innocence ot Catholics, but leaving thousands of claims unheard. 1665 - Act of Explanation modifies the Act of Settlement by requiring most of the Cromwellians to give up one-third of their holdings to provide land for restored Catholics. 1672- Louis XIV of France invades the Dutch Republic (United Provinces) William of Orange is appointed captain-general of the Dutch Republic and stadtholder in Holland and Zeeland 1677- William of Orange marries Princess Mary, elder daughter of the duke of York (later JamesII). 1678- Peace of Nijmegen ends the Dutch war with France to the advantage of the Dutch. Titus Oates uncovers the so-called Popish Plot in England 15 May 1679- Exclusion Bill is introduced in English House of commons to bar the duke of York from the throne . 1680- Louis begins extending France's north-eastern frontier towards the Rhine. 1682- War (not concluded till 1699) breaks out between the Ottoman Turkish Empire and the Austrian Habsburgs. 1683 - Vienna is besieged by the Turks 6 February 1685- James II becomes king of England, Scotland and Ireland on the death of Charles II 20 June 1685- Richard Talbot, Irish Catholic champion, is created earl of Tryconnell. July 1685- The rebellions of Monmouth and Argyll against James are crushed. January 1686-Second Earl of Carendon is sworn in as lord Lieutenant of Ireland. 5 June 1686 Tryconnell is appointed to command the Irish Army July 1686 The league of Augusburg (Hapsburgs,Sweden and various German states) is formed to resist Louis. 12 February 1687- Tryconnel is sworn in as lord deputy of Ireland. 10 June 1688 The seven bishops arrested by James for refusing to promulgate his Declaration of Indulgence, are acquitted in London. Leading Whigs and Tories invite W illiam of Orange to invade England. September 1688- Following the refusal of Pope Innocent XI to appoint the French candidate archbishop of Cologne, Louis invades the Rhineland, thus clearing the way for William's invasion of England. 5 November 1688 William lands in Devon 16 November. 1688- Louis declares war on the Dutch Republic. 7 December 1688 The gates of Derry are shut against the earl of Antrim's regiment 23 December 1688 James escapes to France at the second attempt 8 January Richard Hamilton, sent by William to negotiate Triconnel's submission, arrives in Dublin and Joins Tryconnell 13 February 1689 William and Mary accept the bill of Rights and are declared joint sovereigns of England, Scotland and Ireland. 12 March 1689 James lands at Kinsale, Co. Cork 14 March 1689- The Ulster Protestants are routed at the break of D romore, Co. Down 21 March 1689- James Hamilton arrives at Derry with money and supplies. William appoints Lundy commander of the city . 18 April 1689- James is refused entry to Derry; the siege begins 1 May 1689 - Inconclusive battle in Bantry Bay between English and French f leets. 7 May-18 July 1689 - James Irish Parliament. 7 May 1689- England declares war on France 18 June 1689- James issues a proclamation providing for the circulation of brass money 22 June 1689- Irish parliament repeals the Restoration land settlement. 27 July 1689- The Jacobite leader in Scotland Viscount Mountcashel is defeated by the Enniskilleners at Newtownbutleer, Co.Fermangh. 13 August 1689- Williamite army under Schomberg lands near Bangor, Co. Down. 12 March 1690- French regiments under the comte de Lauzun land at Cork 13 March 1690-Danish army under the duke of Wurtemberg hired by William arrives in Belfast Lough 18 April 1690 -Irish Regiments under Justin MacCarthy leave Cork for France. 14 May 1690 -Charlemont, Co. Armagh, surrenders to Schomberg 14 June 1690 - William lands near Carrickfergus, Co. Antrim 30 June 1690- French fleet defeats the English and Dutch off Beachy Head. 1 July 1690 -William's Army defeats Jame's at the River Boyne 4 July 1690 -James sails from Kinsale for France 6 July 1690- William Enters Dublin 5 September 1690 -William Returns to England 3 October 1691- Treaty of Limerick is signed ending the war in Ireland 22 December 1691- Sarsfield sails to france with 12,000 Jacobite soldiers. Do a search on AltaVista on "William of Orange" and you'll come up with over 1000 hits. Here's another interesting page to check out: http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/king_billy.html Hope this helps. Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS Ancestor Detective http://www.ancestordetective.com

From: Paula Ward [SMTP:pward@express-news.net] > Here is what another Kelley/Kelly researcher shared with me recently: > > "My Kelleys came from London to Detroit about 1872. The records in England > I've found so far spell the name Kelly. It appears they started spelling > the name Kelley over here. My guess is that in the 1870s, it wasn't cool > to > be Irish so the Brits that had Irish surnames, adapted the spelling to > indicate they were different and not to be confused with their Irish > counterparts. That's my theory anyway and I'm sticking to it until I find > something different." > Well, that was me that shared this theory with Paula. Since this mailing list only comes to my work e-mail address, and I'm a government employee, I didn't see this discussion until today. Interesting discussion! I've read a lot about the Irish and that's how I developed the theory above. If you look back to history, you'll see that the Irish were unwelcome immigrants in the latter half of the nineteenth century, which is why I believe that if my immigrant ancestor could spell, he chose to change the spelling. I'm not convinced he could spell, though, but I do believe his children could, and in my line they continued the "Kelley," although you'll always find other spellings based on the enumerator. I hadn't given much thought to the religious theory, although my line would fit, as my Kelleys as far back as I've gotten them (Greenwich,England, in 1848) were Protestant. I know that I grew up fiercely proud of the extra "E" in my name and my father always told us we were "orange" Irish, so we wore orange on St. Patty's Day instead of green. Now that I've traced the family back a ways, I'm not sure where he picked that up other than for something like that to be handed down as family tradition. Maybe it will eventually give me a hint that if I ever get my Kell(e)ys back to Ireland, they'll be from the Northern part. Who knows. As far as the O' is concerned, I would encourage all with Irish ancestry to read about the history of Ireland--it's fascinating if not depressing. Read especially about the seventeenth century when the Brits took over and there was some kind of decree that the native Irish could no longer use the O'. That's the root of the difference, and though the Irish were supposed to stop using the O', in the nineteenth century many of the Irish began using it again as a matter of national or family pride or whatever. So, probably just as in the spelling difference between Kelly and Kelley, there's probably not too many clues in the use or lack thereof of the O'. Please keep in mind that not all Kell(e)y descendants spring from the same clan. There are six or eight places where the surname can be traced to in Ireland. We're not as lucky as my husband's Dohertys who all descend from the O'Dochartaigh Clan from Inishowen, County Donegal. Since I have proven my husband's connection to this line, he has hounded me about claiming I'm Irish based on my Kelley surname, since I can't prove the Kelleys came from Ireland. I will someday. Stay tuned... Liz Kell!e!y Kerstens, CGRS Ancestor Detective <http://www.ancestordetective.com>

Found this and thought that I'd pass it on. It has two Kelly's listed. This is the opening information included in the first part. THE OLD CEMETERIES OF WEST ALEXANDER "FOR YESTERDAY IS ALREADY A DREAM AND TO-MORROW IS ONLY A VISION." THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH WEST ALEXANDER CEMETERY (MAIN STREET) The minutes show that the first Presbytery on November 19, 1785 had a request for supplies from the Three Ridges (West Alexander) church. In 1790 Rev. John Brice came to serve the Church. He died in 1811 and is buried with his family in the cemetery. The fact seems well established that the ground for the cemetery was consecrated at the same time as the church was established. The first services were held under a large oakl tree which afterwards was called "The Preaching Oak" The tree had to be removed in 1936 and Samuel White donated a monument to preserve the site and its history. The dedication took place on December 20, 1936 in charge of Rev. G.K. Monroe; James C. Lewis; and Rev. W.M. Lorimer, each having a part in the ceremonies. The cemetery has been used by both congregations, many markers are still legible. Each Memorial Day, the American Legion places flags on the veterans graves, dating back to the Revolutionary War. This Historical Series has been made available to our readers through the efforts of S. WHITE'S SONS, 68 WEST MAIDEN ST. WASHINGTON, PA. Plant & Office CLAYSVILLE, PA. ---------- From: Helen in Pa.[SMTP:hsdurbin1@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, 13Oct98 1:42 AM To: PAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: THE OLD CEMETERIES OF WEST ALEXANDER part 2 >From hsdurbin1@alltel.net 80. Jane HEMPHILL Born 1806 Died 22-Feb.1868 Aged 62 yrs. 81. Josie HENRY d/o J. & L. Born 1874 Died 21-Oct.1878 Aged 4 yrs. 82. John HUEY Born 1766 Died 1-Apr.1842 Aged 76 yrs. 83. Robert HUEY Born 21-Sep.1828 Died 21-Mar.1829 Aged 6 mo. 84. Joseph KELLY Co.K, 1st W.Va. Cavalry Born 1832 Died 1887 Aged 55 yrs. 85. Thomas H. KELLY Born 20-Nov.1834 Died Jul.1836 Aged 2 yrs. 86. Agness KIDD w/o William Born 1762 Died 6-Oct.1843 Aged 81 yrs. 87. Sophia C. KIMMONS Born 1816 Died 2-MAy.1844 Aged 28 yrs. 88. Isaac KIRK Born 19-May.1797 Died 31-Aug.1855 Aged 58 yr.4mo.12da. 89. Christianna LUCAS w/o David Died 14-Dec.1842 90. Infant of J.T. & C. LUCAS 91. Isaac LUCAS s/o David & C. LUCAS Born Feb.1835 Died Jun.1835 Aged 4 mo. 92. William M. MAXWELL Born 1840 Died 23-Jan.1850 Aged 10 yrs. 93. Charles MAYES Born 1746 Died 1-Mar.1823 Aged 77 JOB:1 25,26,27. 94. Margaret MAYES w/o Charles Born 1743 Died 5-Jun.1805 Aged 62yrs. Tomb erected by John Mayes 95. Elizabeth McADOO Born 21-Dec.1828 Died 16-Jul.1864 Aged 41ur.7mo.26da. 96. Catherine McADOO Born 1767 Died 2-Feb.1852 Aged 25 yrs. 97. James McADOO Born 1780 Died 6-Oct.1843 Aged 63 yrs. 98. Nancy McCLAIN w/o Samuel McClain Born May.1808 Died 17-Nov.1803 Aged 55 yrs. 6 mo. 99. Catherine McCLEERY Born 1785 Died 19-MAy.1861 Aged 76 yrs. 100. Infant Son of A. and M.D. McCLEERY Died 4-Mar.1852 101. James McCLEERY Born 15-Oct.1789 Died 28-Oct.1859 Aged 70 yrs. & 13days 102. Jane McCLEERY Born 1768 Died 23-Jan.1844 Aged 76 yrs. 103. John H. McCLUSKEY Born 26-Feb.1841 Died 25-Nov.1842 Aged 1 yr. 9 mo. 104. Ann McCONN wife of Samuel McConn Born 1795 Died 17-Oct.1828 Aged 33 yrs. 105. McCOY Died 18-Sep.1724 106. Alexander McCOY Born 1795 Died 17-Aug.1823 Aged 38 yrs. 107. Angus McCOY Born 1761 Died 1840 Aged 79 yrs. 108. Daniel McCOY Born 1812 Died 1830 Aged 18 yrs. 109. Daniel McCOY Born 1749 Died 22-Apr.1809 Aged 60 yrs. 110. Grisel McCOY Born 1752 Died 1815 Aged 63 yrs. 111. James McCOY Born 1760 Died 3-Nov.1830 Aged 70 yrs. 112. Jane McCOY Died 13-___.1848 113. Jane McCOY Born 1801 Died 28-Jun.1827 Aged 26 yrs. 114. Jane McCOY Wife of Wm. McCoy Born 1760 Died 22-Jul.1833 Aged 73 yrs. 115. John McCOY s/o Angus & Catherine Born 1797 Died 3-Jun.1829 Aged 32 yrs. 116. Nancy McCOY wife of Daniel McCoy Born 1798 Died 1876 Aged 78 yrs. 117. Rebecca McCOY Born 1821 Died 1848 Aged 27 yrs. 118. Rebecca McCOY Died 10-Sep.1873 119. Ruth McCOY dau/o Wm. & Jane McCoy Died 10-Sep.1873 120. William McCOY Born 1748 Died 1805 Aged 57 yrs. 121. John McCRACKEN Born 25-Dec.1817 Died 1869 Age 52 yrs. 122. McDONALD Died 21-Oct. (no year) 123. (Another stone) (McDonald lot) (Inscription gone) Aged 3 yrs. 124. Catherine McDONALD Dau/o William & Elizabeth Aged 3 yrs. 125. Elizabeth McDONALD Wife/o Major William Died 4-Aug.1845 126. Mary McDONALD Wife/o George McDonald Born 1769 Died 11-Aug.1806 Aged 37 yrs. 127. Major William McDONALD (inscription gone) 128. Sarah McDONALD Born 1781 Died 7-Nov.1857 Aged 76 yrs. 129. Agnes McKAY Died 25-Jul.1807 130. John McKAY Died 20-Jun.1805 131. Matilda McKINLEY Born 19-Mar.1791 Died 15-Apr.1864 Aged 73 yrs. 132. Ann McKUNE Born 1761 died 24-Aug.1842 Aged 81 yrs. 133. Annie McKUNE Died 20-Jun.1820 134. Austin McKUNE Born 1844 Died 28-Aug.1863 Aged 19 yrs. 135. John McKUNE s/o A. & M.A. McKune Born Feb.1840 Died 20-Aug.1840 Aged 6 months 136. S.W. McKUNE Died 20-Jun.1820 137. Ann McMURRAY Born 1808 Died 11-Oct.1834 Age 26 yrs. 138. James McMURRAY Died 21-Dec.1816 140. John McMURRAY Born 1760 Died 5-___.1849 Aged 89 yrs. 141. John McMURRAY Born 1807 Died 17-Feb.1867 Aged 60 yrs. 142. Mary McMURRAY Born 1764 Died 25-Jul.1834 Aged 70 yrs. 143. James McNINCH Born 1739 Died 31-Aug.1866 Aged 87 yrs. 144. Jane McNINCH Died 25-May.1867 145. Elizabeth McNUTT wife/o James McNutt Died 1-Mar.1821 146. James McNUTT Died 8-Jun.1823 147. Jane McWREATH Born 1817 Died 8-Sep.1842 Aged 25 yrs. 148. Joseph McWREATH Born 1782 Died 16-Apr.1856 Aged 74 yrs. 149. Mary McWREATH Born 1812 Died 6-Jun.1856 Aged 44 yrs. 150. Sarah McWREATH Born 1786 Died 26-Jan.1852 Aged 70 yrs. 151. Sarah McWREATH Born 1747 Died 26-Jan.1819 Aged 72 yrs. 152. Elinor MEHAFFEY Born 1782 Died 9-Sep.1846 Aged 64 yrs. 153. Elinor MEHAFFEY Born 1794 Died 21-Jun.1819 Aged 25 yrs. 154. James MEHAFFEY Born 1803 Died 16-Mar.1858 Aged 55 yrs. 155. Robert MEHAFFEY Born 1772 Died 21-Jul.1824 Aged 52 yrs. 156. Margaret MILLER wife/o John Miller Born 1-Nov.1774 Died 1-Dec.1855 Aged 81 yrs 1 mon. 157. Mary MILLER Born 13-Apr.1805 Died 13-May.1866] Aged 59 yrs. 1 mon. 158. John MILLER Born 1762 Died 10-Jan.1846 Aged 84 yrs. 159. Experience MILLS Born 1804 Died 1856 Aged 52 yrs. 160. Jain MOORE Born 1806 Died 17-Aug.1829 Aged 23 yrs. 161. Margaret MYERS wife/o Thomas Myers Born 1794 Died 4-Mar.1843 Aged 49 yrs. 162. Andrew Jackson ODENBAUGH Born 19-Mar.1824 Died 19-Jan.1844 Aged 19 yrs. 9 mon. 163. Jane OLDHAM dau/o J.M. & I. Oldham Born 10-Dec.1851 Died 10-Feb.1852 Aged 2 mon. 164. Samuel H. OLDHAM s/o L. & E. Oldham Born 22-Sep.1843 Died 8-Sep.1844 Aged 11 mon, 14 days 165. Catherine PATTERSON Died 8-May.1859 166. Jane PHILABAUM Consort of Isaac Died Mar.1844 167. Margaret RAMSEY Aged 75 yrs. 168. James RAMSEY Aged 93 yrs. 169. Amasa RAMSON Born 1792 Died 25-Apr.1818 Aged 26 yrs. Laborer on United States Road 170. Anderson RAY s/o John & Mary Born 23-Jan.1834 Died 12-Aug.1834 Aged 7 mon 4 days 171. James RAY Born 1812 Died 12-Jun.1844 Aged 32 yrs 172. Keziah RAY dau/o John & Mary Born 1844 Died 3-Nov.1846 Aged 2 yrs. 173. Nancy RAY Born 1802 Died 10-Nov.1845 Aged 43 yrs. 174. Thomas RAY Born 1750 Died 14-Jan.1834 Aged 84 yrs. 175. Agnes REED Born 1765 Died 24-Feb.1830 Aged 65 yrs. 176. Margaret Bonar REED wife/o William Reed Born 1819 Died 31-Jan.1845 Aged 26 yrs. 177. Martha REED wife/o William Reed Born 1792 Died 4-Jul.1860 Aged 68 yrs. 178. William REED s/o Wm. & Martha Reed Born 1831 Died 15-Apr.1855 Aged 74 yrs. 179. William REED Born 1792 Died 18-Mar.1860 Aged 68 yrs. 180. John ROBINSON Born 1763 Died 30-Aug.1832 Aged 64 yrs. 181. Margaret White ROBINSON Consort of W.M. Robinson Born 1783 Died 1843 Aged 60 yrs. 182. Rosanna ROBINSON Wife/o John Robinson Born 1772 Died 17-Aug.1854 Aged 82 yrs. 183. Madison RODGERS Born 14-Feb. THE SECEDER CEMETERY (BY THE SCHOOL HOUSE) The General Assembley of the Presbyterian Church stated in 1843, that slave-holders were not barred from the church communion. One group of members felt that the Assembly was favoring slavery and they left the church and formed an organization under the name of "Free Presbyterian Church of West ALexander" in connection with the "Free Presbyterian Synod". They worshipped in a building where the school-house now stands, and soon were given the name "Seceders". At the close of the Civil War, the congregation disbanded, sold the building to a group called the "Free Soldiers" and returned to the main Congregation. During this time the cemetery was first used, burials taking place as late as the 1890's. The lot was sold to the School Board later and the building given to be used as part of the structure. The bodies of Robert Humphrey, the founder of the town, and his wife Martha Alexander Humphrey are in this cemetery. He was an elder in the church over fifty years. He died on August 19, 1834 at the age of 83. The graves and markers are still there and plans are being made to preserve them. This Historical Series has been made available to our readers through the efforts of S. WHITE'S SONS, 68 WEST MAIDEN ST. WASHINGTON, PA. Plant & Office CLAYSVILLE, PA. ==== PAWASHIN Mailing List ==== If you are unsubscribed because of a full mail box, bounced messages, or server problems, just subscribe again. If you have trouble, contact daveboyd@greenePA.net

OK......I will take the bait. Could you please expound on 'orange' Irish? Where did the moniker come from? History of it? And, so on.... Mike -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Holt <plholt@onramp.net> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 8:46 PM Subject: Re: KELLEY vs KELLY >Just a thought, but when I once spoke to my father, years ago, I was curious to know if we were "orange" Irish since we weren't >Catholic. The most I could get out of him was a "yes". > >-- >Peggy (Kelley) Holt >Digging up Dead Relatives: Alexander, Carsten, Castleberry, Finnberg, Frerichs, Goerling, Broadaway, Ingram, Kelley, Magrill, >McFarland, Shackelford, Tubbs, Wilken > > > >==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >If you have problems or questions about the KELLEY list, please contact me separately by email, ... Paula Kelley Ward (listowner) at: pward@express-news.net > > > > > > > > > > >

My kelley family as far back as we can find them are from North Carolina, both spellings have been noted by different census takers, birth records, and death records,when we can find them, an intresting item, my grandfather was Haskell B Kelley and he was the son of George and Rosannah Rigsby Kelley, my g,father had one brother that spelled his name Kelly, therefore part of the family spelling was Kelley and part Kelly, so maybe there is no real reason for the difference in spelling except personal choice. For a long time, when I was younger, I thought we were no relation to my g,uncle's family. Something to think about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edna Lewis

Hi all, I had Kelly/Kelleys in TN and I have found it spelled both ways in different places... The family was only in one census that I can find, but the name from that and from deeds, and from marriage records, etc. it was shown both ways, so I don't believe it mattered in my Kelley family. Not sure where my Kelley's came from before I found them in TN. I believe as far as censuses go, it is up to how the enumerator decided it should be spelled or how it sounded to be spelled to them. Don't know if this helps at all or not, but had to tell what I had seen. Sincerely, Linda Jobe On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:47:29 EDT JLNewkirk@aol.com writes: >Hi Jan, I don't know about ever having heard this before but it fits >for our >family, the elder relations being very adamant that it can be only >Kelly's who >are related, no "e" would ever be included in THEIR family name. >Anyone else >notice that? Or have others found it both ways? Jo > > >==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >If you have problems or questions about the KELLEY list, please >contact me separately by email, ... Paula Kelley Ward (listowner) >at: pward@express-news.net > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Just a thought, but when I once spoke to my father, years ago, I was curious to know if we were "orange" Irish since we weren't Catholic. The most I could get out of him was a "yes". -- Peggy (Kelley) Holt Digging up Dead Relatives: Alexander, Carsten, Castleberry, Finnberg, Frerichs, Goerling, Broadaway, Ingram, Kelley, Magrill, McFarland, Shackelford, Tubbs, Wilken

Just thought you would like to know: My father is a twin. He was born in '36. All his life he thought his last name was Kelley. Only after joining the service, did he realize (His birth certificate) that his legal last night was Kelly. Someone had misspelled it years ago. I think it is interesting. Donna

I thought I'd kill several birds with one stone here (please excuse the expression). First a success story: I have just recently discovered a direct Kelly line to my ancestors. I have received an answer to an inquiry letter I sent to Ireland. Turns out that this woman's mother was a niece to my great- grandfather. This woman lives on the farm that my g-grandfather emigrated from, in Co. Kerry (Killarney). It was mainly from working through all the great genealogy internet sites and from the info I had gotten from newsgroups like this, that I was able to reach this success. Thank you all for your help! As for the Kelly/Kelley spelling differences-I do believe a lot has to do with who was doing the spelling, but also it seems to be a bit of a choice wether to spell it with one e ot two e's. My very Catholic Kelly/Kelley line seemed to choose wether they wanted to spell it with one or two e's. My great- grandfather, Patrick, was baptised Patrick Kelly in Ireland, according to the church records. Also, his Certificate of US Citizenship from Salt Lake City, UT, spelled it 'Kelly'. He came to US with a sister and at least two brothers. One brother, John kept the Kelly spelling, he lived in Illinois. Patrick, and his brother Dennis, lived in Massachusetts, and changed their name to Kelley, but no one seems to know why. Kelley was my maiden name, but when looking for ancestors I look for both versions for good reason. I think it is wise for all of us to do so. And to whomever (I lost the name) was looking for Kelly relatives in NY, I do have a Kelly (possibly of the first name "Sheldon"), who was one of the brothers from the above mentioned family, who was from Mineville, NY (Essex Co.). What part of NY are your ancestors from? Best of luck to you all, Patsy

---------- > From: Local Names <webmaster@www.local.ie> > To: NREEB@PRODIGY.NET > Subject: Kelly - KELLY'S OF LISANISKA > Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 3:37 PM > > A new message has been added to Kelly re: KELLY'S OF LISANISKA. > > Seeking information of Kelly's of Lisaniska. I am particularly interested in information on Denis and Ann Conway Kelly. They may have had children Margaret, John and James. John and James may have been twins. How is this family related to other Kelly's in Lisaniska. I would like to know if Margaret was a daughter. Margaret may have moved to America and married a Michael Callagy. Please write with any info you may have. Thank you. Dan Callagy Seufert > > > > The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: The entry was posted by: DOCalgaigh@aol.com > ----------------------------------------------- > Please do not reply to this message. > It is an automatic notification of a new entry. > > Post any comments to: http://www.names.local.ie > -----------------------------------------------

Hi Fellow Kelly/Kelley searchers All this discussion about the different ways to spell Kelly/Kelley reminded me of a conversation I had some time back. I was applying for something or other and this woman was writing down the information. When she asked my last name I told her it was Kelley, spelled K-E-L-L-E-Y. She said, "Oh there are two E's in your name." I said, "Yes, the extra E denotes nobility." She said, "Is that so?" I said, "No that's blarney!" Mike

---------- From: Kalieee[SMTP:kalieee@lava.net] Sent: Monday, 12Oct98 1:49 AM To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Kelley's???? It seems alot of kelley's are from the midwest to the south and my line of kelley comes from Pennsylvania and Isle of Mann.. Not alot of people have kin comming from those area's.. My GGrandfather is from England as well as his father James Kelley from the Isle of Mann.. My GGrandfather Joshua John Ross Kelley was born in England or in Philadelphia Pa not sure which yet but on his grave the name is O`kelly.. He was buried in Barking Cemetery, England 12/27/1920.. Now when researching I keep falling back to the name Kelly from Ireland but now I was told about joshua's grave with O`Kelly.. Its very difficult to know exactly how its spelled or where they came from.. Since there are so many way's of spelling Kelley/Kelly/O`kelly and so on you may just find out that we are all from one place and all related but depending on where certian clan's ended up is how it was spelled.. Apparently it wasnt "COOL" to be a Kelly, Kelley or O`Kelly way back then.. I must say though.. with the strong sense of family I was brought up with Im proud to be one No matter how its spelled.. Charlotte kalieee@lava.net Hi, where in Pennsylvania are your Kell(e)y's? I have a Richard Blaine Kelley born in Indiana County, PA in 1913. His father was James Blaine Kelley born 1888? probably in Indiana County, PA. His father was James L. Kelley dates unknown, assumed to have been born in Indiana County, PA, but nothing to prove this. Would love to correspond with you if any of this sounds familiar. TTYL, Janet E. Tabares

I've had no results from digging for ancestors, so let me try for descendants. My mother-in-law's great uncle was Edward Kelly, believed to be born in Greenwood, NE around 1900. His older sister, or half sister, was Mary Theresa Kelly, also called Mayme, who married a White and was living in Texas in 1920. Edward's parents were Michael and Mary (Molly Kehler) Kelly. They died in Greenwood in Oct 1920 when their car was hit by a train. At that time, Edward was attending Notre Dame University. I would love to find any descendants of Edward, to learn about grandma Mayme's brothers family and to share what we know of ancestors and descendants. Would appreciate any lead on the life of Edward after 1920. Thanks, Jo N.H.

---------- From: J L RIDLEY[SMTP:lb3657@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, 10Oct98 7:42 PM To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Kelley vs Kelly Hi everybody, The other night, I was sharing some family geneaolgy records with an elderly family member. We happened to be looking at the 1850 Federal Census listing for Montgomery County, IN and I was showing the listing for an ancestor, John Kelley. I know it is the listing for him, because 3 of his children are still living in the household and 3 others are in the farms on either side of him. Our branch of the Kelley's has always spelled the last name with 'ey' at the end. However, on the listing it was just 'y'. I had noticed this the first time I saw it but didn't think it was a big deal since all the rest of the info matched. I just assumed that the census taker who came to the door spelled the name the way it sounded to him. My elderly relative, however, was quite upset, and absolutely sure that no matter how much of the other information matched, this gentleman could not be 'our John Kelley'. Why? Because the last name was spelled without the 'ey'. I am told by my relative that to spell Kelley with just the 'y', indicates that the bearer of the name was an Irish Catholic, and that the 'ey' ending indicates that he/she was a Protestant Irishman, and no self-respecting protestant Kelley would allow the name to be spelled with just the Y. Is my elderly relative imagining things? Or am I the only one who has never heard this before? Thanks, Jan Hi, I've heard the same thing, although as a genealogist, I understand that the misspellings are rampant in census records. Perhaps, the census taker spelled it the way it sounded, and your ancestor never saw the way he had spelled it, and assumed that the census taker had spelled it correctly. This is what was told to me by my Kelley grandparents "We spell it with an ey to differentiate ourselves from the heathens that drink". ( No offense to any of the Kelly's - please!) My Kelley's were Presbyterian, but what is kind of funny is I found after my grandmothers death, what can only be described as a holy card. I had written on the back Aunt Tillie Shawgo 1971. I believe that it must have come from a funeral on my grandmothers mothers side of the family. The Kelley line was on my grandfather's side. Interesting, isn't it?? TTYL, Janet

I'm looking for information on the Shelby James KELLEY family. Shelby was born 1/28/1886 in Hazel Dell, IL. He died 10/23/1955 in Bozeman, MT. He married Letitia Isabella GIBSON on 6/4/1905 in Charleston, IL. She was born 4/18/1886 in Fairview, IL and died 12/20/1967 in Bozeman, MT. They had 4 children, Marion, b. Indiana or Illinois, Archie, b. in Sheridan, MT, and Martha & Dallace, both born in Twin Bridges, MT. All I know about Shelby's family is that he had a sister named Goldie and another named Bonnie (she married a Horton and had a daughter named Ruth). There is also some relative who lives in Indiana named Flora and there's also a half brother named Ray. Shelby's wife, Letitia, was called Belle and her father was Fred GIBSON. He married Susannah Jane COLLINBAUGH in Smithboro, IL. She was born 3/30/1866 and died 7/26/1892, I think, in Smithboro, IL. If I read my notes right, she was buried in Pleasant Bethel, North Corrthington, Green County, Owen Cemetery. Can anyone help? I've been told that Hazel Dell, Illinois was a virtual hotbed of Kelly/Kelley activity during this time period. Does anyone have Shelby in their Kelleys? Margie Helena, MT

I had not been on-line over the weekend...not to belabor the issue but I have an interesting name variation that I've wondered about and perhaps someone may be able to assist with. My immigrant ancestor, Edward Kelley, arrived in the colonies in 1771. His ship originated in Rotterdam and he boarded in Cowes on the Isle of Wight. I don't know where his family was from. His Rev. War. muster record show his name spelled two ways - Kelliah in the early listing and Kelley later on (Pennsylvania Archives info). Legal documents of a later time have Kelley and Kelley it has been since. The stories of retaining the 'ey' go back to at least my gr.gr. grandfather who served in the Civil War. I would appreciate any information on the Kelliah variation. Linda Kelley Winkler

Kelley Family History. By Martha Dague Compiled by Martha Kelley Dague Moundsville, West Virginia By word of mouth handed down from generation to generation we believe our ancestors came to America from Cork, Ireland. The Kelley Brothers <Francis and John> came to this area from across the mountains from Hampshire County in 1838. Francis Kelley settled on Fish Creek near Slippery Fork. John Kelley also settled on Fish Creek near Meighen in Marshall County. John only lived two weeks after their arrival and his widow, Eleanor Arnold Kelley, married Andrew Jenney, from Wetzel County. The Kelley's brought their slaves with them. When they were freed, Dennis and Minerva McGruder, brother and sister, did not want to leave the family, so the Kelley's set them up to housekeeping on the farm and they lived their until Dennis died and they sent Minerva to live with her son in Pennsylvania. Henry Holmes came with the Kelley's too. He was sixteen years old. My great-grandfather was Hamilton Kelley. He was born December, 1834. His wife was Hannah Parsons, born in 1838. I do not know who their parents were. A relative who did much research on the family tells me she believes Hamilton to be a son of Francis and Mary Francis Vandever Kelley although he was not named in the list of their children that she has. Their children were: <1> Charles Kelley - married Tena Carney. <I believe her name was Christina> <2> Theodore Kelley - married Rebecca Ann Young. <3> Emilie Kelley - married ___________ Johnson. <4> Mary Kelley - married Colbert Travis. <5> Anna Kelley - married John Goff. <6> Nellie Kelley - married Eugene Workman. <7> Evaline Kelley. Note: A son of Anna and John Goff, named John, was raised by his aunt and uncle, Charlie and Tena Kelley on Fish Creek. Our family always visited with them when I was a small child. Young John's parents had died and that is why they raised him. John married Olive Miller from Bentleyville, Pa. and had two children: Eva Christine and John. Eva married my oldest son, Howard Daniel Dague. They live at Washington Lands, south of Moundsville. Hamilton and Hannah lived on Fish Creek but evidently in Marshall County <where their children were born>. Hamilton served in the Civil War with a unit from Cameron, W.Va., Company L, 4th Regiment. In December, 1985, I obtained his discharge medal from the Civil War as it had been unclaimed. I used census re-cords obtained from microfilm at our Library in Moundsville, to prove our relationship. I don't know when Hamilton's family moved to Silver Hill, Wetzel County but I believe it to have been between 1870 and 1880. They were on the Wetzel County Census records in the 1880 census. Hamilton's oldest son, my grandfather, Alonzo Newton Kelley married Martha Pyles in Wetzel County and their children were born there. <Sallie Carney, a sister to Tena Kelley, was the mid-wife that attended the birth of Martha's children. She also cared for Alonzo and Martha in their old age and during their last illnesses and stayed on with their two single sons until their deaths>. Sallie was loved like one of our family. Alonzo's family moved to Wayman's Ridge, Washington District, Marshall Co., W.Va., in the spring of 1905. My father, Brice, was 11 years old at that time and he remembered moving day very well and often spoke of it. Alonzo, his father, Hamilton, his oldest son Clyde and a teenage relative, Ed Pyles had gone to Marshall County and purchased a farm from William Cain. They had put some firewood inside the house so it would be dry on moving day. On moving day they loaded all their family belongings into the family wagon with the mother, Martha, and her youngest son Doyle, riding in the wagon. The chickens were in crates tied on the back of the wagon. The three older sons and Ed Pyles on foot drove the cows and pigs. They left Silver Hill, Wetzel County at 4:00 a.m. Near noon as they approached the farm of friends near Cameron, W.Va., they were stopped, invited to eat lunch <then called "dinner"> and to rest, feed and water the animals. Martha had prepared a basket of food but it could be used later. They arrived at their new home on Wayman's Ridge at 11:00 p.m. There was enough snow on the ground that they had to shovel it away from the gate to get in. While the mother built a fire in the fireplace the father and the boys made beds on the floor of that room with feather ticks, straw ticks, and homemade quilts. They all remained on this farm until their deaths except for my father, Brice. He married and bought a farm 2 miles away where he lived on until his death, December 1984 at the age of 90 years. I. Hamilton Kelley born December, 1834 - m. Hannah Parsons born 1838 <Both are buried at Silver Hill, Wetzel County, W.Va.> Their children: II. Alonzo Newton Kelley born Sept. 29, 1861 - died December 15, 1941. Married Martha Pyles born May 11, 1857 - died Feb. 7, 1937. Both are buried at Limestone, Marshall Co., W.Va. II. Grant Kelley born 1863. Never married. Died at the old folks home in Marshall County in the late 1930's or 1940's. II. Minna Ola Kelley born 1867. II. Effa Kelley born 1873. Minna Ola and Effa were both fairly old when they married - likely in their early 30's. They married cousins, Thomas and George Church. But I don't know which married which. Thomas was a prosperous man and my father thinks they had two or three children. George was lazy and seldom worked. They lived in with her parents. George often beat his wife. One time my father told me about how Hamilton shot George in the hip after one of these beatings. Someone took George to the Wetzel County Hospital at New Martinsville, W.Va. There the shooting was reported to the Sheriff who came with a warrant for Hamiltons' arrest. When he arrived the neighbors were all gathered at Hamilton's home. The Sheriff stated that he had come to take Hamilton Kelley to jail for shooting George Church. A spokesman came forward and said that Hamilton Kelley was a good citizen, a good father and a good neighbor while George Church was constantly beating his wife and would not work and only caused trouble, so if the Sheriff arrested and attempted to take Hamilton to jail they would assure him that they would see to it that they'd never get to New Martinsville. The Sheriff admitted that he must have made a mistake and left alone! We have had no contact with any of the Church's for at least 60 years. We know nothing about them. The A.N. Kelley Family I. Alonzo Newton Kelley - b. Sept. 29, 1861 - d. Dec. 15, 1941 married Martha Pyles - b. May 11, 1857 - d. Feb. 7, 1937 Buried at Limestone Cemetery, Marshall Co., W.Va. II. Clyde Stanley Kelley - b. Jan. 6, 1891 - d. Nov. 6, 1920 Never married. Served in World War I overseas. Taught school in Marshall County, W.Va. Worked as an accountant for Jebbie-Metz Co., Wheeling, W.Va. II. Ivan Denster Kelley - b. Feb. 25, 1893 - Feb. 19, 1949 Never married. Served in World War I overseas. Occupation: Farmer. II. Brice Dover Kelley - b. Oct. 28, 1894 - d. Feb. 19, 1949 married Nov. 17, 1926 to Mary Virginia Hill - b. March 18, 1908. Occupation: Farmer. II. Doyle Desmond Kelley - b. Dec. 25, 1899 - d. April 28, 1956 Never married. Served in service World War II. Occupation: Farmer. They are all buried at the Limestone Church Cemetery, Marshall County, W.Va. They raised two of Martha's nieces after their mothers died. <A> Helen Higgins - lived many years in Charleston, W.Va., where she worked in a department store. Died in 1980's. <Am not sure of year> <B> Effie Miller - was a nurse at Glen Dale Hospital. Served as a nurse in World War I. Died 1982. ***************** Brice D. Kelley Family I. Brice Dover Kelley - b. Oct. 28, 1894 - d. Dec. 27, 1984 married on November 17, 1926 to Mary Virginia Hill - b. March 18, 1908 They had four children: <1> Martha Virginia Kelley - b. June 12, 1927 <2> Edna Una Kelley - b. Sept. 23, 1928 - d. Jan. 12, 1957 She was born with a heart condition and had to live a restrict- ed life. She was an honor student in school. She moved to Washington, D.C. in 1949 where she worked in Insurance. She never married. She died at Doctors Hospital, Washington, D.C., and is buried at Limestone Cemetery, Marshall County. <3> Clyde Edward Kelley - b. Oct. 28, 1894 - d. Dec.27, 1984 <4> Brice Leroy Kelley - b. April 3, 1938 ********* <1> Brice Dover Kelley - b. Oct. 28, 1894 - d. Dec. 27, 1984 married Nov. 17, 1926 to Mary Virginia Hill - b. March 18, 1908 <II> Martha Virginia Kelley - b. June 12, 1927 married on January 18, 1945 to George William Dague - b. Nov. 30, 1923 <III> Howard Daniel Dague - b. June 19, 1945 married on July 15, 1971 to Eva Christine Goff - b. June 10, 1943 <IV> Christie Jo Dague - b. April 22, 1974 <IV> Scott Daniel Dague - b. March 7, 1978 Note: H. Daniel is sales manager at Ford dealer in New Martinsville, W.Va. Eva is secretary at the Simpson Methodist Church in Moundsville. <III> James Kelley Dague - b. June 12, 1947 Single. Sales manager of Chevy dealership at Woodsfield, Ohio. He had polio as a baby and has a crippled leg. <III> Gerry Lynn Dague - b. May 24, 1948 married on Nov. 15, 1968 to Roger Dale Mickey - b. Oct. 29, 1943 Note: Gerry is 4-H Program Assistant for Marshall County. Roger is a truck driver for Kittle Hauling. <IV> Michelle Lynn Mickey - b. Mar. 23, 1972 <IV> Kelley Christine Mickey - b. Nov. 10, 1977 <III> George Wesley Dague - b. Sept. 24, 1949 Single.Graduate of W.V.U. <III> Peggy Ann Dague - b. Nov. 12, 1956 married on June 9, 1984 to Gary Francis Lyman - b. Nov. 20, 1955 <II> Edna Una Kelley - b. Sept. 23, 1928 - d. Jan. 12, 1955 <II> Clyde Edward Kelley - b. May 31, 1932 - d. June 20, 1932 <II> Brice Leroy Kelley - b. April 13, 1938 married on Sept. 1957 to Carolyn Duvall - b. Oct. 1939 Divorced <III> Mary Victoria Kelley - b. Jan. 30, 1958 married May 1983 to <at Martins Ferry, Ohio> Donn Alan Jako - b. <IV> Dawn Victoria Jako - b. Nov. 14, 1983 at Lexington, Ky. <IV> Lindsay Ann Jako - b. June 28, 1985 <IV> Lacy Sue Jako - June 28, 1985 Twins Note: Mary Victoria is a nurse. <III> Patricia Sue Kelley - b. Jan. 28, 1959 married on Oct. 8, 1977 to Charles Encil Hoskins IV - b. January 27, 1957 <IV> Charles Encil Hoskins - b. May 20, 1983 <II> Brice Leroy Kelley married on January 16, 1971 to Georgia Ann Barlow Hoyt - b. Oct. They live in Citra, Florida <Feb. 1985> >From Helen in Pa. <hsdurbin1@alltel.net>

It seems alot of kelley's are from the midwest to the south and my line of kelley comes from Pennsylvania and Isle of Mann.. Not alot of people have kin comming from those area's.. My GGrandfather is from England as well as his father James Kelley from the Isle of Mann.. My GGrandfather Joshua John Ross Kelley was born in England or in Philadelphia Pa not sure which yet but on his grave the name is O`kelly.. He was buried in Barking Cemetery, England 12/27/1920.. Now when researching I keep falling back to the name Kelly from Ireland but now I was told about joshua's grave with O`Kelly.. Its very difficult to know exactly how its spelled or where they came from.. Since there are so many way's of spelling Kelley/Kelly/O`kelly and so on you may just find out that we are all from one place and all related but depending on where certian clan's ended up is how it was spelled.. Apparently it wasnt "COOL" to be a Kelly, Kelley or O`Kelly way back then.. I must say though.. with the strong sense of family I was brought up with Im proud to be one No matter how its spelled.. Charlotte kalieee@lava.net

Ok...maybe this might not be appropriate as a post on this list but, ya know I wish I had a nickel for everyone of our elusive KELL(E)Y's out there. Be rich for sure!!!!Wouldn't need a secret society for McMinn County, TN....The way things are the KELL(E)Y clan could start there own secret society. Seems like every family I come across has had at least one KELL(E)Y in it somewhere along the way. And many cannot be found somewhere along the way for one reason or another. Tell ya what? Instead of what or who we are searching for...how about the KELL(E)Y's stuff that might be of interest we have found along the way, but for some reason is not our line....... For instance, buried in the same cemetery, right next to my g-g-grandfather William Charles KELLY --b. 1843 AL d. 1922 Ledbetter, Fayette, Texas is a Frank KELLY and a small Infant KELLY son. No where can I find a connection whatsoever in any file I have...... Another one....My g-g-grandfather migrated from AL to San Saba, Texas rigtht after the Civil War. When I sent for his Civil War Pension and War Records I received another one for a Daniel C. KELL(E)Y --spelled both ways on the application--He to resided in San Saba County, TX. He served in the 8th Georgia Infantry. And lastly, while searching for my g-g-g-grandfather John W. KELLY b. 1813 d. 1879 in Hempstead, Waller, Texas according to a bio I have.......I asked for a look up in Waller County for a cemetery record. Not there...So I went to Lavaca County as I had a hint he might have been there. No luck there either but, the person told me that on a small farm in Lavaca County is a Bressel Graveyard near Yoakum. Only four grave sights are listed. On two of the head stones---One unreadable except for KELLY died in the 1840's brother of William. The other one says Mrs. William KELLY died abt. 1840, mother of John KELLY. Makes me wonder if she was my line but, not sure. I live here in NC on the ocean and in this area are very small single family graveyards. I am sure they are like this all across the country. If you are out there searching small family graveyards, remember and write the info down. As I said I thought instead of asking for an elusive KELLY I haven't been able to find so far.........I might just post some info I have found who I am certain is someone's line but, as of yet doesn't connect to my line. If it helps great!! If not at least tried. Mike Kelly The other names were Bressel........ -----Original Message----- From: Thia <thia@fox61tv.com> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 6:56 PM Subject: Re: KELLEY-KELLY ????????? >Hello All! > >Unfortunately, I'm bouncing off a similar brick wall. I am looking for >the family of Tyre (could be spelled Terry) Kelly (ey) b. ca. 1820 m. >04 Jan 1839 at McMinn County, Tennessee to Delilah EMMERSON b. ca. >1818. One of their sons has the middle name Glaspy which may mean that >there was a Gillespie (or some such spelling) connection at one time. > >Maybe the two of us along with another couple of cousins should start a >secret society of McMinn Co. Kelly(ey)s. They do seem to be a secretive >lot. > >Any help will be greatly appreciated! >Thia > >RoladexMOM@aol.com wrote: > >> Well, I have read all the discussion about the KELLEY-KELLY spellings >> for the >> last few days and still am not any closer to finding the KELLEY that I >> need. >> Its seems that my KELLEY'S have disappeared from this world. I know a >> lot of >> them came over here from the "Old" country and the Irish are second to >> the >> Germans in settling here but when it comes to tracing them down I have >> hit a >> blank wall. I'm not as lucky as most of you are by having been able to >> go back >> into the last 2 centuries...........I'm still stuck in the 20th >> century. >> HELP. >> Looking for >> James Herschel KELLEY >> b. 1904 or 1905 . Athens TN? >> m. May 17,1922..Winifred Larose HEDGE >> one child.dau.Jean Colleen >> >> I have the HEDGE side but have nothing on the KELLEY side. I do not >> know who >> James parents were. He had a sister Pauline. age unknown. >> Any help you can give me will be appreciated very much. >> >> Jean >> >> ==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >> Do not send attachments to the list. Attachments cause major problems >> for those who subscribe to the list in Digest format. > > > >-- >Thia Hatcher {researching the Hatcher, Thatcher, Vandergriff, >Gulley, Smith, Hardin (-den, -ding), Birdwell, Gann, >Brouayer (Bruyer, Bruyere), VanSandt (Van Sant), Bleistein, >Groesbeck (Groesbeeck), Copass (Copas, Copus, etc...), >Williams, Emmerson, Shadrick, Cox, Lacey (Lacy), Gass, >Condra (Condry, Condray), Pitcock, Stansberry, Eldridge, >Connor (-er), Thurman, Ledbetter, Cowan, Rogers, Kelly (Kelley), >Thompson and Laymon (-an, -en), Lehman(n), Lemon, Leman, >(+countless others I've probably left out) lines.} > > > >==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >If you don't get a response to your posting, keep sending it to this >list. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again...as the old saying goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > >

In the last part of Sept. You asked about a Kelly in Lauderdale Co. Ms. > > I missed any answer that may have come back as my ISP went on vacation > > and got me bounced from abt.14 list. My interest in the KELLY line from > > that area goes back to a KELLY child born ca. 1875/1878 in Meridian > > Ms.Father was possibly a Dennis or Patrick mother unk. both parents were > > thought to die in the Yellow Fever epidemic of 1878. The child was then > > taken to Nashville Tn. There he was raised in the home of Calvin S. > > Roberts where he shows up in the 1880 census as no living relatives , 2 > > yrs. of age. If you have any info on this family ROBERTS or KELLY it > > would be appreciated and help solve a family mystery!!!!!! > > Sorry I missed any answers and am coming in late on this buy I do love > > my ISP > > Thomas Kelly > > lolo2@pchnet.com