This appeared to be a very informative site or start for those who may have railroad ancestry to research....happy hunting...Happy New Year! http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmclean/rr-res.htm

I received this off of another list and thought I would pass it along. It sounded good to me and maybe we can help others. dkelly@nebi.com Subject: Off subject but good advice (fwd) > >I don't think this is off the subject and it is simply too good not to >pass around. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >I received this on another list and thought it was appropriate > >"This was sent from the listowner of the Stark Co, OH list and I >thought it was worth passing along." >> >>For you who are veterans of email lists, this might be old >>information. But, for those of you who haven't been a >>Subscriber during previous holidays, let me give you a hint at >>what is about to happen. >> >>Starting very soon since Santa, among others, has delivered >>new computers, internet service, and genealogy gifts >>(software) to a host of new rooters! We will be having an influx >>of NEW subscribers to all the lists. >> >>This is GOOD! But while you will see new cousins, friends, >>and contacts coming on-line, joining email lists, posting >>surnames to databases, they will be asking all those >>questions you have seen posted over and over again. >>Unfortunate as it may be, new users mean we have to reinvent >>the wheel all over again! *Grin* >> >>Please welcome the "newbies" to our lists, have PATIENCE >>with them, help them and hopefully send them in the right >>direction. For a month or so (perhaps til the end of January) it >>will be helpful if we can refrain from using a lot of initials and >>abbreviations in our responses. For example, when >>discussing the FHC, lets all take a couple of seconds to type >>"Family History Center," and give an explanation of who, what, >>where, when. Please don't assume that EVERYONE knows >>what it is, or has one near them. >> >>I can't stress enough how important your patience and help is >>for the next month or two. Mistakes will be made, (like >>posting a message that is blank, or no subject line, or leaving >>entire digests in replies) and questions will be asked like >>"What is the FHC, what is the SSDI, what is, can you explain, >>where do I find, etc...Remember that these were once OUR >>errors and OUR questions. We were all new once, and many >>current subscribers are still learning, so let's continue the >>spirit of cooperation throughout the year. >> >>I feel certain that our list will not have rudeness or flip answers >> If you have a problem with an individual, please keep it OFF >>the list (either email the person privately, or contact me). This >>list is about helping each other. Let's be specific and clear in >>our responses to folks, and give a little extra in explanations. >> >>Also keep in mind that new subscribers may know nothing >>about computers, the internet, and genealogy, resulting in >>many extremely inexperienced researchers. I hope we do not >>have questions regarding computers, software, etc, but if one >>does pop up, please respond to these questions off list if at >>all possible. >> >>REMEMBER these new researchers may have file cabinets >>full of information regarding YOUR own family tree, so let's be >>as cordial, helpful and informative as we can be! You might >>also re-post your family lines towards the end of January for all >>of our "newbies" to see......just in case they connect. >>Good Luck!!!!!!!!! >> >>Clare L. Herrick http://members.xoom.com/ClareH >>ICQ#192957 http://www.rootsweb.com/~msattala >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~msholmes >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslownde >> > >Everyone have a happy, and genealogically successful, New Year. > > >Robert W. Strong "I PLAN ON LIVING FOREVER. >Graduate School of Library > & Information Science SO FAR, SO GOOD." >University of Texas at Austin > >strong@gslis.utexas.edu > > > > > > > > > -- [This message was sent using an evaluation copy of IMail Server for Windows NT, a product of Ipswitch, Inc.]

I have a copy of the estate of James KELLY who died 2/17/1917 in Pittsburgh. Anyone desiring a copy of the estate papers, please contact me privately and provide a mailing address. Particulars of this James KELLY are: lived at #19 3rd Street, Pittsburgh had a first cousin, James B. Kelly of #224 Amabelle St., Mt. Washington, Pgh., Pa. had another first cousin, John Kelly, whose address was unknown as of Feb. 1917 but was "last heard of in Braddock, Pa." had another first cousin, whose address was unknown as of Feb. 1917 but "when last heard of was employed by the B&O RR as a fireman." had another first cousin, Mary Kelly, whose address was unknown as of Feb. 1917 but was believed to be "an inmate of a convent somewhere in the state of Ohio." had another first cousin, Charles Kelly, whose address was unknown as of Feb. 1917 but "when last heard of was living on a farm somewhere in the vicinity of Pittsburgh".

To all of you who wrote that I was too judgemental, you are correct! Here's the apology I sent to Duane and Valerie yesterday. Again, I apologize for taking up more cyber space! ---------------------- Forwarded by Tom Galloway/Pti on 12/29/98 10:59 AM --------------------------- Tom Galloway 12/28/98 02:23 PM To: " Duane and Valerie Kelly" <dkelly@nebi.com> cc: Subject: MY MOST SINCERE APOLOGY!!!!! (Document link not converted) Now that's an apology! I want to apologize to you for sounding so mean and unforgiving. I am probably a little biased lately as I see so many people who are so convinced that a person can do anything, even murder, and then we should immediately throw out the welcome mat and invite them over for supper. O.J. Simpson and Bill Clinton come to mind! Your joke was nothing, we have all done something much worse than that! What's dangerous about the Internet is that you're dealing with thousands of people who all have differing backgrounds and opinions. You should tune into the BOONE-L@rootsweb.com group sometime! They had a very nasty fight going on a while back because someone with a lot of accurate research on his side had suggested that Daniel Boone's wife may have had a number of children by one of Daniel's brothers. It almost came to name-calling and rock-throwing! It finally boiled down to the fact that the writer's research was accurate and it WAS possible, with all his long travels, that Daniel's wife Rebecca may have thought he was dead...then he showed up again! Then they had another fight about whether Daniel may have fathered some children by someone other than Rebecca Bryan! Anyway...I've come to expect such arguments in many of the groups I belong to. We're all pig-headed in one way or another. I think the liberals in Maryland are crazy when they say we should stop capital punishment in Texas...and half of my ancestors are from Maryland! Anyway, sorry I dragged you through the gravel...shame on me. We should all be able to forgive especially when someone asks for it! Sincerely, Tom Galloway

My problem in Kelley research is this. I can trace back to a John Kelley, born in late 1800s and died 1818 in Lincoln Co., TN. I believe he is the son of Nelson (possibly William Nelson) Kelley born 1725 and married Elizabeth Jefferies, but I can't prove it. I know Nelson had a son named John and that Nelson and my John were in Bedford County, TN at the same time, but I would like to find proof that they are related. Can anyone help me? Thanks, Mike Chapman

Good Morning Everyone, I'm trying to locate a research web site that might possibly contain Continental Army Rosters for South Carolina. Lately it seems like I'm always looking for a roster for some army or other! Anyone know of any such thing? The only roster I could find on the genweb sc site, didn't have what I was looking for. Thanks, Jan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I agree with you 100% this was not a bad joke, just something that was given to someone by their family and they just passed it along, I thought it was quite cute also, Duane and Valerie if you have anything else I feel I myself would like to read it. Keep on the list and keep searching maybe we will find who we are looking for. Edna Kelley -----Original Message----- From: Roger Children <rogerfamily@email.msn.com> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 3:55 PM Subject: Editorial on Political Correctness >Kelly list may not be the place for this.....so delete it and move on with >your life. > >However, the Kelly list is for a bunch of humans and this IS a people issue. > >Yes! Don't worry Duane and Valerie Kelly, you are fine, please don't leave, >we are all here to work on our Kelly genealogy and you may be the very link >one of us needs at some point. > >You haven't hurt anyone specifically. Let's be real here. The horrors in >war torn countries today are something to act upon, and yet, I bet those >complaining here haven't done anything positive to help the suffering >children. Shall we compare their suffering to the recent suffering on the >KELLY list due to the "in bad taste" joke? No one seems to be offended >about war they way they are about a supposed political incorrect meaningless >joke in the land of plenty where we all converse on this list with expensive >computers! > >Perspective is all we need. > >People just like to hear they're own voice. Let's face it, only 10 years >ago, we didn't know how sensitive to cultures and sexual preferences, etc we >were supposed to be. Now suddenly there are those who make it their >personal business to "get offended at every chance" and to police the rest >of us, (to the happiness of the lawyers - oops, no jokes aloud about lawyers >either, I suppose.) > >The world is full of different people - humor included, shouldn't we keep it >that way? What a bore if we were all the SAME!!! We sure wouldn't need to >trace our ROOTS, now would we? What joke is NOT about someone? Have you >NEVER laughed at a political joke before? Wasn't it fun, at least once? > >Annalisa > >-----Original Message----- >From: Duane and Valerie Kelly <dkelly@nebi.com> >To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <> >Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 11:06 AM >Subject: MY MOST SINCERE APOLOGY!!!!! > > >>My first apology goes to Paula Ward our list manager as I had hoped this >>would all come to an end which I really do. I am tired of all of the nasty >>email letters I am receiving. >> >>My next apology goes to the list like tom.galloway@platinum.com and others >>like him. I am sorry for sending the joke over the list. I should not have >>done it and I promise never to do it again. All I can say is I am very >>thankful my ancestors never got mad because someone could not understand >>them and left because of it. I don't know what else I can do to right my >>wrong. I was very much in the wrong and I did not intend to do any harm or >>to hurt anyones feeling. Can we please just let this subject come to an end >>and get on with our lives and our research? I am really sorry to everyone >on >>the list. >>dkelly@nebi.com >> >> >>-- >>[This message was sent using an evaluation copy of >>IMail Server for Windows NT, a product of Ipswitch, Inc.] >> >> >>==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >>Consider sending your reply to the list, not just to the original poster. >>Others may benefit from the data you provide. >> > > > > >==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >Please share your KELLEY/KELLY success story with the list. It will give the rest of us hope. : )

How about using NGI (Not Genealogy Information). Anyone not interested can just delete the NGI when it shows up on the list. A new list member, Marie ---------- > From: Roger Children <rogerfamily@email.msn.com> > To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Editorial on Political Correctness > Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 6:00 PM > > Kelly list may not be the place for this.....so delete it and move on with > your life. > > However, the Kelly list is for a bunch of humans and this IS a people issue. > > Yes! Don't worry Duane and Valerie Kelly, you are fine, please don't leave, > we are all here to work on our Kelly genealogy and you may be the very link > one of us needs at some point. > > You haven't hurt anyone specifically. Let's be real here. The horrors in > war torn countries today are something to act upon, and yet, I bet those > complaining here haven't done anything positive to help the suffering > children. Shall we compare their suffering to the recent suffering on the > KELLY list due to the "in bad taste" joke? No one seems to be offended > about war they way they are about a supposed political incorrect meaningless > joke in the land of plenty where we all converse on this list with expensive > computers! > > Perspective is all we need. > > People just like to hear they're own voice. Let's face it, only 10 years > ago, we didn't know how sensitive to cultures and sexual preferences, etc we > were supposed to be. Now suddenly there are those who make it their > personal business to "get offended at every chance" and to police the rest > of us, (to the happiness of the lawyers - oops, no jokes aloud about lawyers > either, I suppose.) > > The world is full of different people - humor included, shouldn't we keep it > that way? What a bore if we were all the SAME!!! We sure wouldn't need to > trace our ROOTS, now would we? What joke is NOT about someone? Have you > NEVER laughed at a political joke before? Wasn't it fun, at least once? > > Annalisa > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duane and Valerie Kelly <dkelly@nebi.com> > To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <> > Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 11:06 AM > Subject: MY MOST SINCERE APOLOGY!!!!! > > > >My first apology goes to Paula Ward our list manager as I had hoped this > >would all come to an end which I really do. I am tired of all of the nasty > >email letters I am receiving. > > > >My next apology goes to the list like tom.galloway@platinum.com and others > >like him. I am sorry for sending the joke over the list. I should not have > >done it and I promise never to do it again. All I can say is I am very > >thankful my ancestors never got mad because someone could not understand > >them and left because of it. I don't know what else I can do to right my > >wrong. I was very much in the wrong and I did not intend to do any harm or > >to hurt anyones feeling. Can we please just let this subject come to an end > >and get on with our lives and our research? I am really sorry to everyone > on > >the list. > >dkelly@nebi.com > > > > > >-- > >[This message was sent using an evaluation copy of > >IMail Server for Windows NT, a product of Ipswitch, Inc.] > > > > > >==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== > >Consider sending your reply to the list, not just to the original poster. > >Others may benefit from the data you provide. > > > > > > > ==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== > Please share your KELLEY/KELLY success story with the list. It will give the rest of us hope. : )

Hello: I am searching for the parents of a Mary Kelly b. abt 1752 possibly NJ. married Jeremiah Blackford abt. 1780. The had eight children. Family legand has it that Jeremiah Kelly Blackford their 6th child was born on the water, as they were migrating from NJ to Ky December 14, 1791 by river. I have no information on the Kelly line, but have lots of info on the Blackford lines. Any information or direction would be appreciated. Thank You Nancy M. Boyd GENEALOGY HELP NETWORK http://ghn.genealogy.org FOOTPRINTS IN TIME http://www.angelfire.com/ia/footprintsintime

Hey you Jan! Put your dukes up! How dare you assume we Irish like to fight? And do you want to see if Kelly's are warlike? -- then keep it up!!! By the way, My Patrick Kelly was listed in the census as Michael Kelly in 1860. His wife was Margaret Murphy. They were well to do and owned businesses including a funeral home. Son Daniel Kelly was a partner in Kelly and Leibes Department Store in Union Square in San Francisco in the late 1800's. Has anyone heard of that store? Patrick made his money in Champion Horses. Where should I look for clues about that? Was Bay Meadows around back then? Any hints from the War Like Kelly's would be appreciated. Thank you. Sorry Jan, I don't recognize a connection with your Kelly's. Annalisa -----Original Message----- From: Jan Lee <lb3657@hotmail.com> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 10:39 AM Subject: RE: ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!! >You know folks, I belong to a few more than half a dozen of the rootsweb >lists, and I think they are a very good thing. I enjoy them and learn a >lot in the process. This list, when it is working genealogy has given >me some very good KELLEY info over the couple of months that I have been >on. But I have to tell you guys, this is the fightingest list I ever >have seen. It supports the stereotype that all Kelley's must be Irish >and all Irishmen will fight at the drop of a hat. Shame on us all! Now >if anyone knows my John Kelley, born about 1790 SOMEWHERE in NC who >migrated to Perry County, KY til about 1830, then to Montgomery County, >IN til at least 1850, I surely would appreciate hearing about that, and >if you all want to tell me about your KELLEY/KELLY kin in hopes that I >can help find them, I'd love to hear about that too. If you have a good >research site to list, great, but CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK TO WORK???! > >Jan > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >Have you had success through your KELLEY/KELLY contacts? Let us know the GOOD NEWS! >

Kelly list may not be the place for this.....so delete it and move on with your life. However, the Kelly list is for a bunch of humans and this IS a people issue. Yes! Don't worry Duane and Valerie Kelly, you are fine, please don't leave, we are all here to work on our Kelly genealogy and you may be the very link one of us needs at some point. You haven't hurt anyone specifically. Let's be real here. The horrors in war torn countries today are something to act upon, and yet, I bet those complaining here haven't done anything positive to help the suffering children. Shall we compare their suffering to the recent suffering on the KELLY list due to the "in bad taste" joke? No one seems to be offended about war they way they are about a supposed political incorrect meaningless joke in the land of plenty where we all converse on this list with expensive computers! Perspective is all we need. People just like to hear they're own voice. Let's face it, only 10 years ago, we didn't know how sensitive to cultures and sexual preferences, etc we were supposed to be. Now suddenly there are those who make it their personal business to "get offended at every chance" and to police the rest of us, (to the happiness of the lawyers - oops, no jokes aloud about lawyers either, I suppose.) The world is full of different people - humor included, shouldn't we keep it that way? What a bore if we were all the SAME!!! We sure wouldn't need to trace our ROOTS, now would we? What joke is NOT about someone? Have you NEVER laughed at a political joke before? Wasn't it fun, at least once? Annalisa -----Original Message----- From: Duane and Valerie Kelly <dkelly@nebi.com> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <> Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 11:06 AM Subject: MY MOST SINCERE APOLOGY!!!!! >My first apology goes to Paula Ward our list manager as I had hoped this >would all come to an end which I really do. I am tired of all of the nasty >email letters I am receiving. > >My next apology goes to the list like tom.galloway@platinum.com and others >like him. I am sorry for sending the joke over the list. I should not have >done it and I promise never to do it again. All I can say is I am very >thankful my ancestors never got mad because someone could not understand >them and left because of it. I don't know what else I can do to right my >wrong. I was very much in the wrong and I did not intend to do any harm or >to hurt anyones feeling. Can we please just let this subject come to an end >and get on with our lives and our research? I am really sorry to everyone on >the list. >dkelly@nebi.com > > >-- >[This message was sent using an evaluation copy of >IMail Server for Windows NT, a product of Ipswitch, Inc.] > > >==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >Consider sending your reply to the list, not just to the original poster. >Others may benefit from the data you provide. >

Hi Everyone - Happy Holidays!! Need some help out there. Have been actively searching out the family of Moses Kelley, b. 1754 in Baltimore Co., MD and died in 1839 - married to Ruth Rollo/Rolls in 1788 in Baltimore. The known children are: Isaac, b. abt 1791 in Maryland Ephriam, b. 1792 in Maryland Elias, b. 1797 in Maryland William Allen, b. 1800 in Virginia Sarah, b. abt 1801 in Virginia Jefferson, b. abt 1809 in Kentucky Have extensive information regardin Ephriam, Elias and William Allen and their extended families. Looking for more information regarding Isaac, Sarah (who married Abraham Wortman), and Jefferson. There ended up in Grant-Pendelton-Campbell Counties in KY and in Sullivan County in Indiana. Any help out there? Thanks, Don and Joyce Kelley

I've just transcribed and posted two rather informative obituaries (1929 & 1913, respectively) for these two longtime Louisa County, Iowa, residents (my ggrandparents) at: :http://home1.gte.net/gentzler/A_C_Kelly_(obit).htm http://home1.gte.net/gentzler/E.A.Moles_Kelly_(obit).htm In another spectacular development, I've been able to interpret a hand drawn family tree from the early 1900s (on an Thompson & Kelly invoice) which provides 5 generations back beyond Anson Cook Kelly on the KELLY, TEAGUE, and FURNAS sides. Even more increadibly, I'm finding confirmation of all the names (plus dates!) in Ohio records. I've posted what I have so far and will continue to update as fill in at: http://home1.gte.net/gentzler/GeorgeTope.htm#Descendants of Christopher Furnas ( - ) Happy New Year!!! Ed Gentzler, Seattle http://home1.gte.net/gentzler/index.htm

My first apology goes to Paula Ward our list manager as I had hoped this would all come to an end which I really do. I am tired of all of the nasty email letters I am receiving. My next apology goes to the list like tom.galloway@platinum.com and others like him. I am sorry for sending the joke over the list. I should not have done it and I promise never to do it again. All I can say is I am very thankful my ancestors never got mad because someone could not understand them and left because of it. I don't know what else I can do to right my wrong. I was very much in the wrong and I did not intend to do any harm or to hurt anyones feeling. Can we please just let this subject come to an end and get on with our lives and our research? I am really sorry to everyone on the list. dkelly@nebi.com -- [This message was sent using an evaluation copy of IMail Server for Windows NT, a product of Ipswitch, Inc.]

My feelings are different from everyone else. If we must write, write the one that sent the joke. Give them support or tell them you disagree. I have already written them. What did I say? It was for them! Whatever you do don't get mad! No more drive-by emails! There are many caring people on this list....keep up the good work! Tom Myatt

I swore I was not going to get into this, but the person who submited the joke did apologize and then unsubscribed. So everyone is beating a dead horse. And now we gotta bring that guy in the White house into it...........see know humor in that either. Danny -----Original Message----- From: tom.galloway@platinum.com <tom.galloway@platinum.com> To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 10:47 AM Subject: FORGIVENESS >This is an interesting subject lately since there are so many >"bleeding hearts" out there more than ready to forgive anyone >for anything, no matter whether they have asked for it or not! > >Maybe we should not be so eager to forgive...until we hear a person >actually apologize and admit they did something wrong. It took Clinton >almost a year to admit he did anything wrong. The person who posted >the "inapropriate joke" has admitted no wrong and has not asked for >forgiveness. You could be wasting valuable empathy, sympathy, and >"open arms" for a prodigal who hasn't come home! > >Now...please forgive me for wasting the Kelley list's time, I really do want >to >get back to geneology. > > > >==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== >Consider sending your reply to the list, not just to the original poster. >Others may benefit from the data you provide. >

Anyone have EVERIST? Thanks. Glosard@aol.com

I took the joke as it as meant...a joke. No offense was intented and none should have been taken. Unfortunately, this country and its inhabitants have become the United States of the Offended. Our motto should now be "Watch What You Say". Give the lady a break, all she did was tell a joke. There are more than enough serious issues upon which to spend time. This has gone beyond ridiculous. And Linda, I enjoyed the joke. Tell your thin skinned critics to kiss your grits. Jay Kelly

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!! THIS IS A GENEALOGY GROUP, NOT A POLITICAL FORUM!!

You know folks, I belong to a few more than half a dozen of the rootsweb lists, and I think they are a very good thing. I enjoy them and learn a lot in the process. This list, when it is working genealogy has given me some very good KELLEY info over the couple of months that I have been on. But I have to tell you guys, this is the fightingest list I ever have seen. It supports the stereotype that all Kelley's must be Irish and all Irishmen will fight at the drop of a hat. Shame on us all! Now if anyone knows my John Kelley, born about 1790 SOMEWHERE in NC who migrated to Perry County, KY til about 1830, then to Montgomery County, IN til at least 1850, I surely would appreciate hearing about that, and if you all want to tell me about your KELLEY/KELLY kin in hopes that I can help find them, I'd love to hear about that too. If you have a good research site to list, great, but CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK TO WORK???! Jan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com