Where in Massachusetts did they settle? Shari Kelley Worrell Researching Essex County, Mass Brick Walls Conley/Cluney, Kelley, Ramsdell, Wilson, Bailey ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

So, when researching Kelley (my maiden name) I also have to search for Kelly or as I've also heard O'Kelley/O'Kelly ? I don't have a clue as to where to start in Ireland. Barbara

Some of us repeat this on occasion, don't get caught up with the spelling of Kelley/Kelly. My mother spelled her name Kelley, her brother spelled it Kelly. Her uncle taught his older kids Kelly and the younger ones Kelley. So don't make anything of how it is spelled. Ruth ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi Bridget. I don't think we're realted, but I was wondering if you have any indication that your family's surname was KELLY when they were in Ireland. I have KELLY ancestors from Glenflesk, just outside of Killarney. When the KELLY siblings emigrated to America, some changed their surname to KELLEY and some kept KELLY. They settled in Utah, NY, and Massachusetts in the 1870's. Thanks, and good luck. ~Patsy~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <kelley-request@rootsweb.com> To: <kelley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:19 AM Subject: KELLEY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 165 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. JOHN, PATRICK AND MARTIN KELLEY - PA (bridgetzlm@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:04:20 -0400 > From: bridgetzlm@aol.com > Subject: [KELLEY] JOHN, PATRICK AND MARTIN KELLEY - PA > To: kelley@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8C9E7F7EB1F1C7F-978-98EA@mblk-d19.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Thanks for responding Raymond. Here is what I know about my family: > > I am researching families in SCHUYLKILL COUNTY, PA and BLUEFIELD, WV with > the last name of KELLEY. I have been searching > for my great great grandfather?s family for a good number of years. His > name > was JOHN KELLY/KELLEY and he was born in Killarney, County Kerry, > Ireland around 1828. He immigrated to the United States in 1852. He met > his > future wife while traveling across the Atlantic on a ship called Rip Van > Winkle. > Her name was ELLEN NOLAN and she was from Tipperary, Ireland. She may have > been > born in Thurles around 1831.? > > > > > ? > John and Ellen moved to Shenandoah, > PA and lived for a time at 233 North Jardin Street. They also lived in New > Castle, PA. They had the following children: > > > > ? > > > > Michael ? 1855 > > > > John ? 1857 > > > > Mary ? 1859 > > > > Martin ? 1861 > > > > James ? 1863 > > > > Patrick ? 1865 > > > > Margaret (Maggie) 1867 > > > > William ? Abt. 1869 > > > > > > ? > John was a miner. He may have died > in a mining accident in the Little Diamond Colliery on June 30, 1886 but I > am > not positive about this. My great grandfather was PATRICK J. KELLEY and he > moved from Schuylkill County to Bluefield, West Virginia. I know that his > brother MARTIN KELLEY > was close to Patrick because he served as the best man at Patrick?s > wedding. > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > > Kelly, John, age 50, miner, b. Ireland > > > > > Ellen, age 39, keeping house, b. Ireland > > > > > Michael, age 15, slate picker, b. PA > > > > > John, age 13, slate picker, b. PA > > > > > Mary, age 11, b. PA > > > > > Martin, age 9, b. PA > > > > > James, age 7, b. PA > > > > > Patrick, age 5, b. PA > > > > > Margaret, age 3, b. PA > > > > > William, age 1, b. PA > > > > > ? > > > > > Year: 1870; Census Place: New Castle, Schuylkill, > Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_1450; Page: 631, Post Office: Broad Mountain. > > > > > * * * * * * > > > > Kelley, John, age 55, retired miner, b. Ireland, parents b. > Ireland > > > > Ellen Nolen, age 50,wife, keeping house, b. Ireland, > parents b. Ireland > > > > Michael, age 25, son, laborer, b. PA, parents b. > Ireland > > > > John, age 23, son, laborer > > > > Martin, age 18, son, laborer > > > > James, age 16, son, laborer > > > > Patrick, age 14, son, slate picker > > > > William, age 10, son, slate picker > > > > Maggie, age 12, daug., at school > > > > ? > > > > Year: 1880; Census Place: Shenandoah, Schuylkill, > Pennsylvania; Roll: T9_1192; Family History Film: 1255192; Page: 521.4000; > Enumeration District: 201 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KELLEY list administrator, send an email to > KELLEY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KELLEY mailing list, send an email to > KELLEY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KELLEY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KELLEY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 165 > **************************************

Thanks very much for the info. I am looking for the Parents of John Kelly/Kelley , b.c.1765, who was in Guilford Co., NC, in 1782. Most of his neighbors came from Chester Co., PA or Cecil Co., MD. Best Regards, Raymond Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <bridgetzlm@aol.com> To: <kelley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:04 PM Subject: [KELLEY] JOHN, PATRICK AND MARTIN KELLEY - PA > > > Thanks for responding Raymond. Here is what I know about my family: > > I am researching families in SCHUYLKILL COUNTY, PA and BLUEFIELD, WV with the last name of KELLEY. I have been searching > for my great great grandfather’s family for a good number of years. His name > was JOHN KELLY/KELLEY and he was born in Killarney, County Kerry, > Ireland around 1828. He immigrated to the United States in 1852. He met his > future wife while traveling across the Atlantic on a ship called Rip Van Winkle. > Her name was ELLEN NOLAN and she was from Tipperary, Ireland. She may have been > born in Thurles around 1831.

Thanks for responding Raymond. Here is what I know about my family: I am researching families in SCHUYLKILL COUNTY, PA and BLUEFIELD, WV with the last name of KELLEY. I have been searching for my great great grandfather’s family for a good number of years. His name was JOHN KELLY/KELLEY and he was born in Killarney, County Kerry, Ireland around 1828. He immigrated to the United States in 1852. He met his future wife while traveling across the Atlantic on a ship called Rip Van Winkle. Her name was ELLEN NOLAN and she was from Tipperary, Ireland. She may have been born in Thurles around 1831.    John and Ellen moved to Shenandoah, PA and lived for a time at 233 North Jardin Street. They also lived in New Castle, PA. They had the following children:   Michael – 1855 John – 1857 Mary – 1859 Martin – 1861 James – 1863 Patrick – 1865 Margaret (Maggie) 1867 William – Abt. 1869   John was a miner. He may have died in a mining accident in the Little Diamond Colliery on June 30, 1886 but I am not positive about this. My great grandfather was PATRICK J. KELLEY and he moved from Schuylkill County to Bluefield, West Virginia. I know that his brother MARTIN KELLEY was close to Patrick because he served as the best man at Patrick’s wedding. * * * * * * Kelly, John, age 50, miner, b. Ireland Ellen, age 39, keeping house, b. Ireland Michael, age 15, slate picker, b. PA John, age 13, slate picker, b. PA Mary, age 11, b. PA Martin, age 9, b. PA James, age 7, b. PA Patrick, age 5, b. PA Margaret, age 3, b. PA William, age 1, b. PA   Year: 1870; Census Place: New Castle, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_1450; Page: 631, Post Office: Broad Mountain. * * * * * * Kelley, John, age 55, retired miner, b. Ireland, parents b. Ireland Ellen Nolen, age 50,wife, keeping house, b. Ireland, parents b. Ireland Michael, age 25, son, laborer, b. PA, parents b. Ireland John, age 23, son, laborer Martin, age 18, son, laborer James, age 16, son, laborer Patrick, age 14, son, slate picker William, age 10, son, slate picker Maggie, age 12, daug., at school   Year: 1880; Census Place: Shenandoah, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania; Roll: T9_1192; Family History Film: 1255192; Page: 521.4000; Enumeration District: 201 ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

The Patrick's I know of came to Lancaster Co. Pa in 1734 and York Co. Pa in late 1750s both had son's named John and mayor may not be related B. Kelly On Oct 27, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Raymond Kelly wrote: > Hi Bridget, > What year did John Kelley come to America? > Best Regards, > Raymond Kelly > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bridgetzlm@aol.com> > To: <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:41 AM > Subject: [KELLEY] MARTIN KELLEY of PA > > >> >> >> I am researching my great grandfather PATRICK KELLEY who was >> originally > from Schuylkill >> County, PA. He had a brother named MARTIN KELLEY. Do you know >> Martin's >> parent's names? Patrick's father was named JOHN KELLEY and was from > Kilarney, Ireland. His mother was named ELLEN NOLEN and was from > Tipperary, > Ireland. John and Ellen met on a boat while emigrating to the > United States. > John was a coal >> miner in PA. Do you know if Martin and Patrick could be brothers? >> Patrick > moved as a young adult to Bluefield, WV and lived the rest of his life > there. >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> Bridget Kelley-Dearing >> >> Lexington, Virginia >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> ___ >> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL >> Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com >> >> >> ************************************* >> KELLEY/KELLY/O'KELLY Surname DNA Study >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kellydnaproject/index.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KELLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************************* > KELLEY/KELLY/O'KELLY Surname DNA Study > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kellydnaproject/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KELLEY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bridget, What year did John Kelley come to America? Best Regards, Raymond Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <bridgetzlm@aol.com> To: <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: [KELLEY] MARTIN KELLEY of PA > > > I am researching my great grandfather PATRICK KELLEY who was originally from Schuylkill > County, PA. He had a brother named MARTIN KELLEY. Do you know Martin's > parent's names? Patrick's father was named JOHN KELLEY and was from Kilarney, Ireland. His mother was named ELLEN NOLEN and was from Tipperary, Ireland. John and Ellen met on a boat while emigrating to the United States. John was a coal > miner in PA. Do you know if Martin and Patrick could be brothers? Patrick moved as a young adult to Bluefield, WV and lived the rest of his life there. > > > > Thanks. > > Bridget Kelley-Dearing > > Lexington, Virginia > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > > > ************************************* > KELLEY/KELLY/O'KELLY Surname DNA Study > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kellydnaproject/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KELLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many Kelly's are R1b Haplogroup and may want to find out which Oxford Genetic Atlas Project (OGAP) they are. By picking those haplotype markers identified below and subtracting 389-1 from 389-2 their OGAP Group can be determined. See the article below AND the link provided. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Benham To: DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:42 AM Subject: [DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY] Re: Geographic Patterns of Haplogroup R1b in the British Isles by Ca Jim is right. This is a very important article that strips away the veil that some experts put upon their findings. Some of the more technical terminology in the article can be glossed over on a first read. What is most useful is the map at the end which will help any British Isles R1b's to locate themselves in a fairly general way and to see where they fit into the Oxford Genetic Atlas Project analysis. My own maternal grandfather was R1b1c (FTDNA). According to the conclusions of this article he falls into the sub-clade (is that the right term here?) OGAP3. Unfortunately, though slightly more represented in Southern England, this is an old and geographically diffused type and harder to pin down. You will need to subtract your 389-1 from your 389-2 result to comply with the OGAP calculation of 389-2. We are still dealing with too few markers but at least the door is now open here on previously unclear aspects of the work of Sykes and Oppenheimer on Britain. See the article at http://www.jogg.info/31/campbell.pdf Pat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Database | Members Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 5New Members Visit Your Group Dog Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about dogs. Yahoo! Groups Endurance Zone Communities for increased fitness. Summer Shape-up on Yahoo! Groups Trade weight loss and swimsuit tips. . __,_._,___ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1088 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 1:26 PM

I have 2 - Henry Kelly names (ages unknown) in Union County, PA in 1815. There are very few Henry names in the Kelly clan. Maybe there is a connection somewhere.

I am researching my great grandfather PATRICK KELLEY who was originally from Schuylkill County, PA. He had a brother named MARTIN KELLEY. Do you know Martin's parent's names? Patrick's father was named JOHN KELLEY and was from Kilarney, Ireland. His mother was named ELLEN NOLEN and was from Tipperary, Ireland. John and Ellen met on a boat while emigrating to the United States. John was a coal miner in PA. Do you know if Martin and Patrick could be brothers? Patrick moved as a young adult to Bluefield, WV and lived the rest of his life there. Thanks. Bridget Kelley-Dearing Lexington, Virginia ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robertallenkelley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kelley/208.477.480.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know Susan Adeline Browder. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Donna what area of TN was your John Kelly in? I have a John Calvin Kelley in Hickman/Maury Counties. He was born 1848 to Wiley Kelley. Thanks, Evie ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RaymondKelly91 Surnames: KELLY/KELLEY/O'KELLY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kelley/4987/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Greetings to All, We now have 121 participants.114 Test Results are posted on our Website. 52 participants have a 12 Marker Match with another related participant. This consists of, 1 Group of 7, 1 Group of 6, 1 Group of 5, 2 Groups of 4, 2 Groups of 3, and 10 Groups of 2. We have 62 participants with no match. Our 114 Test Results represent 79 unique, unrelated, KELLY/KELLEY/O'KELLY Families. This means that when Surnames were adopted in Ireland about 900 AD that 79 different Families adopted the Surname KELLY (Gaelic Equivalent). DNA Testing is the only practical method to determine from which KELLY Clan we descend. Since there are a large number of Unique KELLY Clans we are going to have to get a large number of participants to find matches for those of us who haven't yet found a match. Studies done by Geneticist at Trinity University in Dublin. indicate that Murphy and Kelly are the two most popular Surnames in Ireland. However, DNA Studies carried out by the University indicate that the large number of people with Surname Kelly is due to multiple family founders as opposed to a single patrilineal line with a large number of descendants. Please contact your fellow KELLY/KELLEY/O'KELLY researchers and encourage them to participate. There are 62 of us who are still without a match. I will happily reimburse the cost of the 12 Marker DNA Test for the participant who matches my haplotype. Our Website URL is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kellydnaproject/index.htm Best Regards, Raymond Kelly Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

What I just read made me think about what I have always heard passed down from my mother and grandmother (after a long absence I recently starting getting my feet wet again in genealogy). I have my family -- John Kelley born late 1700's in Tennessee family came on over on Ship Calf from Ireland. Family stories are they were German, went to Ireland and on to US. My question has anyone studied migration from Germany to Ireland in the 1600's or 1700's, how long they would have stayed in Ireland (thinking a German woman married an Irish Kelley man and onto the US), I just haven't looked into the migration part yet. Thank you, Donna -----Original Message----- From: kelley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kelley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:33 PM To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KELLEY] KELLY/KELLEY/O'KELLY Surname DNA Study Status: 10/26/2007 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RaymondKelly91 Surnames: KELLY/KELLEY/O'KELLY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mbrowder53190 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kelley/208.477.480.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for info on Frank Henry Kelley born about 1850, where is a good question. He was even said to have been orphaned and raised by an uncle or a neighbor. I have heard he was born in England on census says Ireland, one says Germany and a few say England, and another says Missouri. All I know is that he married Mary Francis Delaney of Missouri and they lived there married lives in Georgetown (Williamson County), Texas. Any possible connections? Vickie MBrowder53190@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Martin married Mary A. Ryan, daughter of Franklin Ryan of Muncy, Lycoming County , Pennsylvania .   Their children were:   Ida E., Emma L., Bruce C., Jesse B., Mamie V., and Fannie M.   Fannie was born on 26 April, 1881 and died on 7 February, 1882 and Emma L. never married.   Looking for descendents of Ida E. who married James Mowrer; Bruce C. who married 1 st Lydia St. Clair and 2 nd Susan Wolford; Jesse B. who married Margaret Foust; and Mamie V. who married Frank Martz   Harold Robinson Family_researcher1944@embarqmail.com  

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RiverPhoenix Surnames: KELLY/KELLEY HAZELWOOD Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kelley/4986/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Some one submitted their DNA to the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation for the mitochondrial database with the following pedigree. Elijah Kelly is my line also. I would like to make contact with you. Please contact me at celticspirit@insightbb.com Thank you, Betsy Wildes Pedigree for Match #52 J L MCKEEN Emory Harrison MCKEEN b. 1828 Niagara County, New York, USA b. 1870 , Texas, USA Lucinda Eliza SNODGRASS Edward Emory MCKEEN b. 1838 b. 1896 Carlsbad, New Mexico, USA Charles H JEFCOAT Emma Jane JEFCOAT b. 1850 , Alabama, USA b. 1876 Brownwood, Texas, USA Virginia Florentine KEITH PROTECTED b. 1852 , Texas, USA James R CHAMPION James Henry CHAMPION b. 1823 , Georgia, USA b. 1853 Centreville, Alabama, USA Mary Ann SHURBERT Neva B CHAMPION b. 1819 Bibb County, Alabama, USA b. 1904 Celina, Texas, USA Elijah KELLY Catherine 'Katie' KELLY b. 1847 , Kentucky, USA b. 1872 Leitchfield, Kentucky, USA Minerva HAZELWOOD b. 1849 , Kentucky, USA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Currently available online scanned death certificates, ongoing projects and forthcoming projects for Arizona, Georgia, Chicago & Cook County (Illinois), Missouri, Ohio, Utah, Texas and West Virginia: Arizona Arizona Death Certificates <http://genealogy.az.gov/> 1878-1956 (free) also includes birth certificates 1887-1931 Georgia Georgia <http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/gadeaths.php> Death Certificates 1919-1927 (free) Illinois: Chicago and Cook County (forthcoming) According to a Chicago Tribune article published in September, the Cook County Clerk's office has been digitizing their birth, marriage and death certificates with plans to put these online, possibly in January, 2008. This will be for birth certificates more than 75 years old, marriage certificates more than 50 years old, and death certificates more than 20 years old. The records will go back as far as 1871 -- earlier records were lost in the Chicago Fire. For now you can see some indexes that are available at: Online <http://www.deathindexes.com/illinois/cook.html> Chicago and Cook County Death Records Indexes and Obituaries Missouri (ongoing project) The Missouri State Archives has been adding death certificates to their website for the period of 1910-1956. The years 1938-1944 are not yet available, but should be added over the next few months. Missouri Death Certificates <http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/> (free) Ohio (forthcoming) Currently being tested in the FamilySearch Labs <http://labs.familysearch.org/> are scanned Ohio death certificates from 1908-1953. These will hopefully be available to a wider audience on the new FamilySearch website sometime next year. Texas (ongoing project) Footnote <http://www.footnote.com/?img=4&kbid=1024&xid=17&sub=golbtx> has been scanning Texas death certificates and adding them to their website. They presently have over 200,000 death certificates available, mostly from 1902-1917 with more being added. You can download a copy of a single death certificate from Footnote for just $1.95 (price subject to change) -- the Texas Department of Health charges $20 for a mail order copy. Or you can buy a monthly or yearly subscription to Footnote's collection of historical records. See: Texas Death Certificates at Footnote <http://www.footnote.com/documents/19419207/texas-death-certificates?img =4&kbid=1024&xid=17&sub=golbtx> Utah Utah Death <http://historyresearch.utah.gov/indexes/> Certificates 1905-1956 (free) West Virginia West <http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_select.aspx> Virginia Death Certificates 1917-1956 (free) has earlier records for some counties - also has birth and marriage records for some counties Other States - Death Indexes For a directory of online death indexes, including some cemetery records, obituaries, and probate records see: Online Searchable Death <http://www.deathindexes.com/> Indexes and Records Above information from Newsletter of 10/24/2007 from GenealogyRoots@Yahoogroups.com Paula Kelley Ward KELLEY List Admin since 1996 chachalady@sbcglobal.net "I expect to pass through life but once. If therefore, there be any kindness I can show, or any good thing I can do to any fellow being, let me do it now, and not defer or neglect it, as I shall not pass this way again." - William Penn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: D_N_K_T Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kelley/5.526.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have not come across William Green Kelley. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.