In a message dated 4/30/2006 2:13:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Do you know about Gottschalch Keim who died in 1075? You will find that story in the KEIM archives for 1997. Search for the word "Gottschalch" to read the tale! Searched for it, but didn't find it :-( It's supposed to be in the KEIM mailing list archive? That's where I looked anyway. Would you have the link? Myrtleen Kimes