On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Cindy Kimes wrote: > I'm curious... what makes you THINK George (m. Mary Louer/Lauer) > belongs to John KIME, Sr's family? [not that I know any reason why he > couldn't!] But you must have a reason for connecting him up w/John > and Elizabeth Keim. > Well... In the 1810 Census in the household of John KIMES of Franklin township, there are 4 males 0-10 years of age and 4 males 10-16 years of age. We can possibly identify three of these 10-16 year-old males as John's sons Samuel (baptismal record), John Jr (see previous e-mail), and Henry (who is listed in the 1820 Census in Franklin township), leaving one son of 10-16yrs unaccounted for. Various on-line postings state that the George KIME who married Mary LOUER was born in Adams County, PA in 1796. Given the birth date and location, he *might* be the 4th son of John KIME Sr. Also - there appears to be a connection between the KIME and LOUER/ LOWER families in Franklin & Butler townships in that two of Peter KIME's children (the Peter KIME who married Sarah HAUDESHELL) are living with LOWER families in the 1850 Census. But this is all highly conjectural on my part!!! PS. Samuel KIME/KYMES might have been the first husband of Barbara, and the father of John KIME of Menallen township. Reasoning: Samuel KEIM is listed as a sponser at the baptism of Samuel KEIM, son of John and Elizabeth KEIM, in 1793. And an on-line posting states that (a) Samuel KYMES was living in Menallen township by 1802 and (b) his wife's name was Barbara. If so, Samuel KYMES might be a brother of John KIME Sr. --- Karen Arp [email protected]