It's been a long time since I've been active in researching. My earliest Kime (as it was spelled in upstate NY) was John Christian Kime who was born in Berks Co., PA. I have his parents as Conrad and Anna Maria Keim. The dates for the first and 2nd wife confuse me. I got the information from Descendents of Conrad Manges written by Harriet Stahl. Found the book in the Waterloo, NY library (would love to purchase if anyone knows of a source!) Benjamin Lerch was my gggrandfather. Diane Lerch Kurtz Descendants of John Christian Kime 1 John Christian Kime b: 27 May 1769 in Berks County, PA d: 30 Nov 1854 in Fayette, Seneca County, New York .. +Elizabeth b: Abt. 1788 in Pennsylvania d: 12 Feb 1871 in Peru Township, Huron County, Ohio *2nd Wife of John Christian Kime: .. +Anna Margaret Menges b: 22 Feb 1767 in Longswamp Township, Berks County, PA d: 12 May 1834 in Fayette, Seneca County, New York m: 27 May 1769 . 2 Catherine Kime b: 16 Apr 1790 in Berks County, PA d: 19 Mar 1847 in Fayette, Seneca County, New York ..... +George Gouger b: 24 Apr 1799 d: 03 May 1851 in Fayette, Seneca County, NY m: 1808 in Pennsylvania ..... 3 Jane Gouger b: 1829 in Fayette, Seneca County, New York d: 02 Jun 1873 in Fayette, Seneca County, New York ......... +Benjamin Lerch b: Abt. 19 Nov 1828 in Fayette, Seneca County, New York d: 02 Sep 1885