My KIEHM were from Germany and landed in New York in the 1800s and ended up in  the Michigan, Indiana, and the Cook County area of Illinois. Illinois Names I have: BERTHA  (?) b. Abt. 1827, her husband,  (?)  KIEHM,  has not been found as of yet. Their children are: EMMA KIEHM, (nothing known) LOUIS F. KIEHM, b. Abt. 1846, no birth place yet.  Married MARY L. END, Jan. 16, 1873, Cook Co. Illinois, Lic# 00007771. JULIUS KIEHM, b. Abt. 1847, Prussia, Germany. TILLIE KIEHM. (nothing known) RUDOLPH KIEHM, b. Abt. 1862, New York, USA, married MARGRET E. DALEY, July 02, 1890, Cook Co. Illinois, USA  Lic# 0015363. HARRIET SUSAN KIEHM, b.Dec. 1863, Illinois, USA, married CARL HENRY SCHUENEMANN SR., May 31,1882, Cook Co. Illinois, USA Lic# 00061863, Harriet (Hattie) died Nov. 29, 1919, Chicago, Ill., Cook Co.USA. Their children are: WILLIAM SCHUENEMANN, b,March 1882, Illinois, USA ALFRED SCHUENEMANN, b. March 1887, Illinois, USA FLORENCE A. SCHUENEMANN, b. Jan. 1889, Chicago, Illinois, USA, Married OSCAR KALTEICH, place ? Florence died Abt. 1921. Florence was my Grandmother, (my Mother's Mother). Somewhere around here an (N) was dropped from the spelling of last name. ERMA SCHUENEMAN, b. March, 20, 1891, Illinois, USA, Married ALBERT LINDE. Erma d. May 1978 BERNARD SCHUENEMAN, b. Oct. 1891, Illinois, USA RAYMOND SCHUENEMAN, b. Nov. 1894, Illinois, USA CARL HENRY SCHUENEMANN, JR., b. 1899, Illinois, USA (since Carl was a JR., I am assuming he did not drop the (N) ). ROBERT SCHUENEMAN b. 1905, Illinois, USA I came across my notes that read, in 1880 HARRIET KIEHM was living in New York at the age of 16 and working in a factory.  I have no idea how I got that information.  Can anyone out there tell me where I can find the New York census for 1880 and earlier? Many of the SCHUENEMANN, LINDE, stayed in the 3 state area. Some retired in Florida. Any information and leads on these names will be greatly appreciated. Warm Regards, Patricia from Texas, The GGGGrandaughter of BERTHA  (maiden name unk) KIEHM.