montebobbi wrote in Aug: > > Has anyone noted that there are several Keim notes from publications > and family notes re: > > 3 brothers who emigrated from Germany > A chest or trunk from Germany > "Interest $" and "Inheritance $" from Germany and how it was "lost" > A "Tanner" and a "finisher of fine leather" > Millwrights and Lumberman > Two marriages one in Germany the other in PA > A John/Johannes/ "Hans" who with his German wife had 6 children > and 10 children with his PA wife > > There are different slants, dates vary by about 100 years and the > brothers names, the second wife and children's names vary. Does > anyone have any hunch as to why or who has explored the similarities? > > Two marriages one in Germany the other in PA > A John/Johannes/ "Hans" who with his German wife had 6 children > and 10 children with his PA wife Don't know about the 100-year varying dates, but I can answer the latter part. Most of the above describes the immigrant, Johannes (Hans) Keim and most descendants accept the following dates for Johannes's family: Descendants of Johannes (Hans) Keim 1 Johannes (Hans) Keim b: ca 1675 near Speyer, Germany d: 1753 Oley Twp, Berks Co, PA .. +Katarina ? b: Germany m: 15 September 1706 Speier, Germany d: 1730 PA ... 2 Katarina KEIM b: 29 September 1708 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 08 May 1793 Oley Twp, Berks Co, PA ....... +John Henry Schneider b: ca 1706 ... 2 Johannes Keim b: 04 March 1711 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 10 October 1782 ....... +Catharine STUMP b: 1711 m: 1732 ... 2 Stophel KEIM b: 28 March 1717 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA ....... +Juliana [Weaver?] m: 1737 ... 2 Hans Nickel KEIM b: 02 April 1719 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 23 August 1802 Reading, Berks Co, PA ....... +Barbara SCHNEIDER b: 02 October 1727 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA m: 24 March 1746 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 08 June 1788 Reading, Berks Co, PA ... 2 Elizabeth KEIM b: February 1723 Oley Valley, Berks Co, PA d: Bef. 1762 Frederick Co, MD ....... +Christian HUFFORD b: 05 January 1716 Schwaigern, Neckar, Wurttemburg, Germany m: 1745 d: ca October 1788 Monacacy Manor, Frederick Co, MD ... 2 Jacob Keim b: 24 October 1724 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 18 October 1799 Rockland Twp, Berks Co, PA ....... +Maria Magdalena Hoch b: 02 December 1730 Maiden Creek Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA m: October 1746 d: 21 April 1804 Lobachville, Berks Co, PA *2nd Wife of Johannes (Hans) Keim: .. +Maria Elizabeth BOLLER(in) b: 1713 m: 25 March 1731 Oley Twp, PA ... 2 Heinrich Keim b: 27 April 1732 Oley, PA d: July 1802 Bath Co, VA ....... +Anna Catarina Reiber m: 25 October 1767 Bethel, Berks Co, PA d: December 1805 Bath Co, VA ... 2 George KEIM b: ca August 1733 Oley Valley, PA d: Bet. 12 May 1812 - 07 August 1813 ... *Wives of George KEIM: ....... +Elizabeth Musselman ....... +Elizabeth Gheer (order unknown) ... 2 Conrad Keim b: 03 December 1734 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 1776 Eastern District, near Oley Furnace, Berks Co, PA ....... +Anna Maria // b: ca 1736 m: Berks Co, PA d: Aft. 1783 ... 2 Maria KEIM b: November 1734 Oley Valley, Philadelphia (now Berks) Co, PA d: Bef. 12 March 1803 Berks Co, PA ....... +Jacob Yoder b: 1735 Oley Valley, Berks Co, PA d: Bet. 12 March 1803 - 14 March 1804 Berks Co, PA ... 2 Barbara KEIM b: February 1736 d: ca 1795 ....... +Michael WITMAN b: ca 1736 m: ca 1758 d: Aft. 24 February 1786 ... 2 Susannah KEIM b: 25 December 1739 Oley Twp, Berks Co, PA d: 12 May 1809 ....... +John Frederick von Hoof b: 08 July 1734 Zweibruchen, Germany m: 25 October 1757 d: 26 April 1818 ... 2 // Keim ... 2 // Keim ... 2 // Keim ... 2 // Keim Name variations are due to: Errors in hearing the name. Errors in spelling the name. Name changes by family members. Name changes by descendants writing family history. Descendants often listed their ancestors by the names they were known by, not the name by which they were christened. In this particular family, many of the sons were given the same name for what we call the first name. Some list the sons in this family as: Johannes Keim, the first-born son Johannes Stophel KEIM Johannes Nickel KEIM or Hans Nickel KEIM Johannes Jacob Keim Johannes Heinrich Keim Johannes Conrad Keim or Hans Conrad Keim Johannes George KEIM or Hans George Keim Johann is the same as Johannes, although sometimes the "es" at the end is used for one who is the son of Johann. Hans is short for Johannes. Questions? Fire away! That's what this list is for...... discussion!