From my notes: Johannes m. (1st) in Germany, in 1706, fourteen days before the feast of St. Michael's, Katarina MOYER.....I have seen that her surname was Moyer, but have, also, seen it claimed that he was married to Katarina (or Bertha) DeTurk, dau. of Johannes DeTurk and Hester (Esther) Kip (Katarina DeTurck is apparently the sister of Isaac DeTurck). Have even seen that he was married to Katarina Haricourt. Other sources also note that his first wife died in 1730 or 1731 From Rootsweb KEIM Mailing List: Leah Kime Pratz in her manuscript "The record of the Keim, Kime and Kimes and related families" says the following: (pages are unnumbered) "He [Johannes Keim] married (first) in Germany in 1706, Katarina Moyer; married (second) January 1, 1731 Maria Elizabeth." She is listed as Katarina Moyer at least three times in the manuscript. No sources are given. [NO SOURCES!!!!!] From "History of Bettsville and Liberty Twp." (Seneca Co.) by John E. Durrett. I'll summarize: In 1698, Johannes Keim (Kime), age 23, left Landau, Bavaria, Germany, impelled by religious convictions, and landed in Philadelphia. Johannes and wife, Katrina Moyer, settled in Oley, PA, where he died ca. 1753. Also: "The record states that Johannes had six children by his first wife, Katarina Moyer. The last child being born in 1724. He married a second wife, Maria Elizabeth, in 1731, and their first child was born in 1732. In between these two dates 1724-1732 is the only place where my ancestor, PHILIP, fits. He was born in 1730, but there is no record that proves that this is so. However, all research indicates that he is a descendent of the PA Keims. There is also a record by Leah Kime Pratz - Annals of the Oley Valley. It is a very interesting record of Johannes and his family." In Keim and Allied Families in America and Europe, an entry from William Miles Kime (Keim) of Pleasant Lodge, Alamance Co., N.C., dated September 1900 Vol. 1,2, Reading, PA - Harrisburg, PA. No. 22.; there is an article by Isaac DeTurk (Doc. Hist., N.Y., O'Callaghan, Vol. III, P.551) as follows: Another entry dated April 29, 1710: A tradition from the ancients of the family says that Johannes Keim, Founder, married Bertha DeTurck. The marriage took place 1706 in Germany before his return to America in 1707. The DeTurcks, of Frankenthal, and the Keims of Landau, near Speyer, lived in localities not far distant." The first wife of Johannes Keim is Bertha DeTurck. It is mentioned in the Keim & Allied Families by DeB Randolph in their September 1900 issue #22. Another source written on the family is the book by VanCleave. He introduces yet another variation on the name of Johannes's first wife; Katarine DeTurck (seems to be a combination of Bertha DeTurk and Katarina Moyer) as the wife of Johannes Keim, the Immigrant. An article about the KEIM family published in the Reading Eagle on March 12, 1972 shows the first wife as Bertha DeTurck, married in 1706. This article also states that Johannes married Marie Elizabeth in 1733. > -----Original Message----- > From: Cindy [mailto:ckimes@mvillage.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 7:37 AM > To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KEIM] Re: Katherina De Turk > > > A non-KEIM subscriber wrote: > > > > Cindy, > > JoHannes Hans Keim was married twice. My direct line > > comes through Johannes and his first wife Katherina De Turkmoyer(or just > > Deturk). > > Their daughter Elizabeth Keim married Christian Hoffart. > > > > Has anyone EVER seen Katherina De Turk referred to as Katherina De > Turkmoyer? This was new to me! > > Cindy > > > > ==== KEIM Mailing List ==== > Try "Surname Helper Search for a Surname" when you don't know > exactly where > your ancestor lived! > http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/srchsur.pl >

Right, I remember all those references, but have you ever seen "DeTurkmoyer" listed as her surname? Jeff Reimert wrote: > > >From my notes: > > Johannes m. (1st) in Germany, in 1706, fourteen days before the feast of St. <cut>