Regarding the lineage and birthdates provided by Harold Davey I have confirmed all dates, except the first Philip Kime, by direct reading of the tombstones at Richland Lutheran Church Cemetery. The dates of death are: 2. April 29, 1836; 3. January 27, 1874 and 4. October 13, 1909. I have found no documented sources regarding the dates for the birth or death of Philip Kime who was reportedly born about 1730. I have searched the records of the Brick Church as translated by the Rev. D. I. Offman and transcribed by Calvin Hinshaw. I have copied and transcribed a court record that indicates a Philip Kime was naturalized in 1763. I quote this record below: QUOTE Naturalization Proceedings of Salisbury Superior Court Sept 22 1763 NC Archive Microfilm Call Number C. 207. 3001 "This day came into Open [Court] the following persons Natives of Germany and was Naturalized according to Law by taking the oaths appointed for That purpose and received Certificates for the same Witnessed by the Clk of Same to wit," The Honorable Mason[?] Moore Esq. Assistant Judge presided. Guilford County Residents within the list of 47 people naturalized included the following. George Cobell; Andrew Rudolph; John Nott; Adam Smith; Conrad Lowe; Malikiah Fogelman; Fredreck Smith; Jacob Cobel; Jacob Hamble[hambell]; PHILIP KIME; Adam Moser; Jacob Boon; David Spike; George Valentine Clapp; Adam Cobel; Joseph Stailey; Frederick Brown; Malekiah Isely and Henry Gardner. UNQUOTE Based on this court record it is likely that Philip Kime was born in Germany. Of course it is possible that these people or their ancestors had been previously naturalized but they lacked proof and wished to establish proof of their allegiance to the British Crown. However, if Philip Kime had been descended from the well-established KEIM family in Pennsylvania I think he would have and could have obtained adequate proof of that fact. Therefore, it is most likely that PHILIP KIME was born in Germany or enroute to North America from Germany. Bill Doyle -----Original Message----- From: Harold Davey [mailto:hdavey@home.com] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:13 AM To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KEIM] Philip Kime's descendants See below: Harold Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:49:15 -0500 From: Cindy <ckimes@mvillage.com> Way back..... Harold Davey wrote: > > Philip KIME was born about 1730. He died after 1805. > He was buried in Old Brick Church, Guilford, NC. > > William Keim/Kime of Alamance Co, NC, great-grandson of > Philip KIME, had a German Bible which was the property > of his grandfather, Philip Kime. > Who knows birthdates for the above KIMEs and can complete the lineage below? Direct Descendants of Philip KIME 1 Philip KIME, b: abt 1730 in GER 2 Philip Kime, b: 9 May 1762 ....... 3 Henry Kime, b: 15 Feb 1810 ........... 4 William Miles Kime of Alamance Co, NC, b: 12 March 1832, Guilford, NC ______________________________