> This webpage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/obits/obit001a.txt > lists Henry Kimes and a couple of his childrens' death dates. > > Mrs Ellen Kimes is also listed. Anyone know whose wife she was? > > May have been Henry Kimes, born Jan 31, 1796, Rockbridge, Va, Died Apr 11, 1854, Cane Creek, Lincoln Co, Tn, buried Kimes Cem, Cem also called Unity. His first wife was Eleanor Helen UNKown, childern listed was Henry M Kimes born May 4, 1834, died Apr 8, 1854 and David Jefferson Kimes, born Jul 28, 1832 died Aug 8, 1854. gene > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could be... the name Helen is frequently mistaken for Ellen and Henry's wife was still alive on the 27th day of September, 1856. Her will of that date was posted to the Lincoln Co, TN email list on 31 Jan 2008. genekimes@semo.net wrote: Mrs Ellen Kimes May have been wife of Henry Kimes, born Jan 31, 1796, Rockbridge, Va, Died Apr 11, 1854, Cane Creek, Lincoln Co, Tn, buried Kimes Cem, Cem also called Unity. His first wife was Eleanor Helen UNKown --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

This webpage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/obits/obit001a.txt lists Henry Kimes and a couple of his childrens' death dates. Mrs Ellen Kimes is also listed. Anyone know whose wife she was? --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Burial records for some of the RICKETTS are listed on this site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ohio/seneca/sandridge_os.htm and in case anyone is wondering... Mary Elizabeth Kime was another descendant of Valentine Kime of Maiden Creek Twp, Berks co, PA. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Lori posted info on Samuel Franklin Ricketts b. 18 Aug 1847 James Jefferson Ricketts b. 15 Jun 1853 Susie Walters b. 29 Aug 1849 All are connected to this family: THOMAS WASHINGTON RICKETTS was born 25 February 1825, and died 17 July 1855. He married MARY ELIZABETH KIME 05 November 1846 in Seneca Co, OH, daughter of SAMUEL KIME and CATHERINE CUSTER. She was born 28 October 1824 in Jefferson Co, WV, and died 19 April 1905 in Northwest Twp, Williams Co, OH. Children of THOMAS RICKETTS and MARY KIME are: i. SAMUEL FRANKLIN RICKETTS. ii. SUSANNAH RICKETTS. iii. GEORGE WASHINGTON RICKETTS. iv. JAMES JEFFERSON RICKETTS. v. THOMAS WASHINGTON RICKETTS, JR., b. 1855; d. 1885. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Hi Judy, I really don't have the answers to your questions but I do have some thoughts on them. The LDS have had the certificates transcribed and I know the originals are on films. The Certificate Number is just as you would think, I have compared info from the site to certificates that I already had. I would think the GSU Film Number and Digital GS Number some how refer to the film the information was on. I would also think the Image Number refers to where on the film the information was. I also think the Digital GS Number has something to do with the digital image that they have on the site. The 'fn' is the number of the certificate, but I have no clue why they use (or add) the 'fn'. On my g Grandmothers certificate the certificate number is 852 on the transcription the reference number it fn852. On the transcription they call it a 'Reference Number'. I am thinking this information is all for if you want to rent the film and look at the original image. But I could be wrong about all of this. Lori On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Judy Bates <judyb6@cox.net> wrote: > I have gained so much new information from Lori Chaffin's postings to the > list lately. I would like to know what the "GSU Film Numbers" are, or mean, > what the "Digital GS Number" is, or means, and what the "Image Number" is, > or means. I think the "Certificate Number" is just what it indicates but > what is the "fn" that comes before the number? This will help me to record > the information correctly. I have never done a lot of research for my KIMES > lines but with this "boost", I will do more. Where can I find OH marriage > record information? I am interested in Mahoning, Columbiana, and Stark Co's. > in OH. Thanks so much, Lori for your work. > > Judy Bates > Scottsdale, AZ. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

GOOD GRIEF!!! Same book... same section... lists a Johannes KYME of Phila Co as a Quaker. SAME DATE! Could there be two??? Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> wrote: OK... thought I'd seen an entry. This is also from the Pennsylvania Archives 2nd series, Vol. II; published 1876. Page 357 "And at the same Court, the following Person being Quakers, or such who Conscientiously scruple to taking an oath... " on Page 361: John Kiem of Philadelphia County (date at end of list) Philadelphia, 21st June, 1743. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

OK... thought I'd seen an entry. This is also from the Pennsylvania Archives 2nd series, Vol. II; published 1876. Page 357 "And at the same Court, the following Person being Quakers, or such who Conscientiously scruple to taking an oath... " on Page 361: John Kiem of Philadelphia County (date at end of list) Philadelphia, 21st June, 1743. Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> wrote: Johannes (Hans) Keim took the Oath, but do we know when? --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

In response to a question from Arthur Kime: According to info that I have listed, the Valentine Keim that I had mentioned in an earlier posting was born 1711, arrived in Philadelphia on the ship Brittania of London from Rotterdam in 1731. He died about 1808 in Maiden Creek Twp. of Berks Co. PA. (So he quite likely could have taken the Oath of Allegiance in 1743) He was first married to Mary Delaplank, then Magdalena Faust. Children: Jacob, Catherine Schmeck, Maria Mengel, Daniel, Elizabeth Unger, John, Magdalena Bernt, Christian and Susanna Dreischer. I have no info an a Mary that married Patrick Lundy in 1767. As you know there were lots of Keims in the area, so Mary may have been from another line. It seems that the Oath of Allegiance was taken a little closer to the date of arrival, rather than 12 years later. Maybe someone on the list has more definitive information on this. Nola Donley in Indiana

Thanks, Nola, your observation on the time line difference between arrival and taking to Oath was a concern of some of the officials of the time too. Reading somewhere, (maybe Berks of Old or History of Berks Co) some of the immigrants (now called undocumented immigrants) took the Oath later because they went inland after landing before being "processed" and the local officials then were used to give the Oaths after identifying those persons. Art a former Hoosier

Picked up from Berks Co email list, 25 Jan 2008: One must distinguish between "taking an oath" and the process of naturalization. Starting in 1727, all immigrants to the British colonies were required to take an oath of allegiance to the Crown and to agree to abide by the laws of England. The process of naturalization to which you refer was a legal proceeding of the Supreme Court which granted the full rights of British citizenship. Part of the process was the swearing of an oath or, in the case of Quakers and Mennonites, an affirmation. The most important advantage of becoming a citizen was the ability to pass title to land through inheritance or deed. Donley <donley.r@insightbb.com> wrote: It seems that the Oath of Allegiance was taken a little closer to the date of arrival, rather than 12 years later. Maybe someone on the list has more definitive information on this. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Johannes (Hans) Keim took the Oath, but do we know when? Arthur Kime <cbito@juno.com> wrote: Thanks, Nola, your observation on the time line difference between arrival and taking to Oath was a concern of some of the officials of the time too. Reading somewhere, (maybe Berks of Old or History of Berks Co) some of the immigrants (now called undocumented immigrants) took the Oath later because they went inland after landing before being "processed" and the local officials then were used to give the Oaths after identifying those persons. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Art, Your "find" brings up some questions I've wondered about. Would WHERE someone took the Oath of Allegiance have anything to do with where they lived? Did they have to take the Oath in the County of residence? OR, could they take the Oath in any Court? TODAY, Maiden Creek Twp is part of Berks Co, but Berks Co wasn't created until 1752. (see creation of PA counties website) http://www.mypennsylvaniagenealogy.com/pa_maps/pa_cf.htm If you look at PA in 1751 on the above site, the squiggly line between Philadelphia, Chester, and Lancaster Counties seems like it must be the Schuylkill River. And on a map of today, Maiden Creek Twp is EAST of the Schuylkill River, so back in 1742 it must have been part of Philadelphia Co. Yet the listing Art shared says Valentine took the Oath in Lancaster Co. Might we assume Valentine went to the Lancaster Co Court because it was closer than going to the Chester or Philadelphia County courts? Arthur Kime <cbito@juno.com> wrote: In the Pennsylvania Archives, Lancaster County, via Google book searches, a Valentine Kime of Maiden Creek in 1742, took the Oath/Affirmation of Allegiance. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Regarding your post of Feb. 13, 2008, sometimes I see later tib bits that make me wonder. In the Pennsylvania Archives, Lancaster County, via Google book searches, a Valentine Kime of Maiden Creek in 1742, took the Oath/Affirmation of Allegiance. also Mary Kime m. to Patrich Lundy Oct. 22, 1767. Would this be the same as Valentine Keim? Art On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 "Donley" writes: > Hi Lori, > Wilma Ferstler was my husband's aunt. Her father was Perry Edward > Donley. That P must have looked like an R in the records. Her > mother was Hattie Kime, whose line goes back to Valentine Keim. > > i.e. Hattie Kime Donley > Albert Kime, > Henry Clay Kime, > Daniel Kime, > Jacob Kime > Valentine Keim

I have gained so much new information from Lori Chaffin's postings to the list lately. I would like to know what the "GSU Film Numbers" are, or mean, what the "Digital GS Number" is, or means, and what the "Image Number" is, or means. I think the "Certificate Number" is just what it indicates but what is the "fn" that comes before the number? This will help me to record the information correctly. I have never done a lot of research for my KIMES lines but with this "boost", I will do more. Where can I find OH marriage record information? I am interested in Mahoning, Columbiana, and Stark Co's. in OH. Thanks so much, Lori for your work. Judy Bates Scottsdale, AZ.

Gene--I'm sorry, I completely missed your comment earlier!!! THANK YOU! More about L.L. Kimes & family Cumberland Evening Times 15 Sept 1908 (advertisment) L. L. KIMES & L. Roy KIMES/The Drug Store with a Reputation/L. L. Kimes & Bro/Corner Baltimore and Mechanic Steets/Cumberland Md. there is also mentions in society columns about L. Roy and Roy (he seemed to be a popular and busy young man) Cumberland Evening Times 16 Sept 1905 (society column) Mrs. Wm. KIMES of Keyser, W.Va. is the guest of her son, Walter, of this city. from wvculture.org this appears to be father Death Name:Henry/Kimes Sex:Male Death Date:1 Jun 1884 Death Place:Sheptown. Dist., Jefferson Co., West Virginia Age at Death:68y Burial Place: Burial Date: Cemetery: Funeral Home: Birth Date: Birth Place:Sheptown. Dist. Marital Status:M Spouse:Anna/Kimes Occupation:Painter Address: Residence: Mother:S./Kimes Mother's Birth Place: Father:W./Kimes Father's Birth Place: Informant: Marriage Record Detail Date:21 May 1872 Place:Mineral, West Virginia BrideGroom Name: Anna Mohler William W. Kimes Birth Date: Birth Place: Age at Marriage: 18y24y Marital Status Prior to Marriage: Mother: Margaret Anna Father: Reuben Henry -- Missie My hobby is genealogy, I raise dust bunnies for pets! Gene wrote: > Dear Missie L L Kimes and his brother, may have been Lawrance L Kimes and Walter R Kimes of Keyser, Mineral Co, WV per the 1880 cen. Gene *From:* Cindy Kimes < cindykimes@yahoo.com> *Subject:* Re: [KEIM] Henry Kimes of Shepherdstown, VA *Date:* Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:38:05 -0800 (PST) Henry Kimes was b.ca 1816 and lived in Jefferson Co most if not all his life. Does anyone know if Henry was the son of William Kimes and Sarah Boyers who also lived in Shepherdstown, VA? Cindy Kimes < cindykimes@yahoo.com> wrote: MOSES A. KIMES was born August 1854 in VA. He married SARAH "Sallie" ANN MILLER 17 November 1880 in Shepherdstown, Jefferson Co, WV. 1880 census lists Moses as the son of Henry and Annie Kimes of Shepherdstown, WV. *From:* Cindy Kimes < cindykimes@yahoo.com> *Subject:* Re: [KEIM] Cumberland Evening Times *Date:* Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:45:48 -0800 (PST) *In-Reply-To:* 200803010111.m211AZ6p016824@mail.rootsweb.com Lawrance L and Walter R Kimes were sons of William W. Kimes b. April 1842... another of Henry and Annie Kimes's sons. (same Henry b. ca 1816)

> Lori, > > Thanks for all the work of posting this information. Since most of my > family is from Ohio & West Virginia, I am looking for any names that > fit in my lineage. > > How often is this information released? I think they have to wait 50 > years to release it, but I would think that we are getting close to > seeing the names up to 1958. > > -- > Kit Kimes > Oswego, IL > Dear Kit Maybe is I some Info for, first are you Kit Everet Kimes, born Jun 26, 1943, if so please e-mail me Gene Kimes from missouri > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well, somewhere I'd picked up that Mary Molly died in 1868, but I don't know where that date came from. From looking at this pension document, you'd assume she died between March 1862 when she rcvd her last pension check & September when her next one should have gone to her. However, I spose we need to consider whether or not there was another reason the pension might have ended - like maybe some obscure law, or someone figured out she really wasn't legally married to Stephen. He was, after all, the one who was married to her sister Elizabeth when they ran off to North Carolina together. Or maybe there's another Pension document that continues on after that date, cuz the one I saw went right to the edge of the page on dates. -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> To: keim@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 6:28 pm Subject: Re: [KEIM] Stephen Ryerson - husband of Mary Molly Keim Doesn't that mean she likely died then? (March 1862) ssher86017@aol.com wrote: A different image for that same time period shows Mary Ryerson, widow of Stephen, as receiving his pension commencing 10 December 1849, and it has marks in the columns starting March 1850 through March 1862. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doesn't that mean she likely died then? (March 1862) ssher86017@aol.com wrote: A different image for that same time period shows Mary Ryerson, widow of Stephen, as receiving his pension commencing 10 December 1849, and it has marks in the columns starting March 1850 through March 1862. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Don't think I've ever seen this info on the List before. I was searching Ancestry.com for other info and got frustrated so starting trying unusual searches when I saw this. It isn't my Keim lineage but maybe someone else is looking for this info. Several document images under US Pensioners show Stephen Ryerson receiving a pension for having been?a Private in the military. On?one for the period 1818-1872, after his last pension notation in September 1849, is a hand written notation that he died 10 December 1849. A different image for that same time period shows Mary Ryerson, widow of Stephen, as receiving his pension commencing 10 December 1849, and it has marks in the columns starting March 1850 through March 1862. Sherry in Colorado