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    1. Re: [KEIM] Henry Kime of Bath Co.
    2. Cindy Kimes

    3. Someone shared the following will for Henry Kimes/Heinrich Keim. My question concerns the age of son Abraham. Will dated 17 Dec. 1799 and it says minor son. So he was born after Dec 1778???? Bath Co, Virginia Will Book 1, p. 229 Will of Henry Kime of Bath Co. Home plantation to wife, Catherine, and then to son Valentine. 54 acres tract where Stephen Rierson formerly lived to minor son, Abraham. 5 shillings each to children, Conrad Kime, Christina Martingood, Catherine Deale, Lisey Rierson, Jacob Kime, and Molly Kime. Son Valentine to care for his mother when old and infirm, they being the executors. Witnesses Charles Cameron, Thomas L. Lewis, Anthony Mustoe, Samuel Gay. Dated 17 Dec. 1799 and moved July Court 1802. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

    04/21/2008 10:37:02
    1. Re: [KEIM] Henry Kime of Bath Co.
    2. Cindy Kimes

    3. Someone shared the following will for Henry Kimes/Heinrich Keim. My question concerns the age of son Abraham. Will dated 17 Dec. 1799 and it says minor son. So he was born after Dec 1778???? Bath Co, Virginia Will Book 1, p. 229 Will of Henry Kime of Bath Co. Home plantation to wife, Catherine, and then to son Valentine. 54 acres tract where Stephen Rierson formerly lived to minor son, Abraham. 5 shillings each to children, Conrad Kime, Christina Martingood, Catherine Deale, Lisey Rierson, Jacob Kime, and Molly Kime. Son Valentine to care for his mother when old and infirm, they being the executors. Witnesses Charles Cameron, Thomas L. Lewis, Anthony Mustoe, Samuel Gay. Dated 17 Dec. 1799 and moved July Court 1802. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

    04/21/2008 10:36:13
    1. [KEIM] KIMESes from Crawford Co, IN
    2. Cindy Kimes

    3. Ran across some KIMESes from Crawford Co, IN, buried in Austin, TX: http://www.austintxgensoc.org/cemeteries/AMP.html Armenta R. Tower was the wife of Daniel Wesley Kimes. Nicholas W. Kimes and Albert Kimes were two of their sons. Mabel B. (Bippus) Kimes was Nick's wife. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

    04/19/2008 02:13:10
    1. Re: [KEIM] KIMES Civil War soldiers
    2. Cindy Kimes

    3. There are also two KIMES buried in the Nashville National Cemetery, Madison, TN. see http://www.bonps.org/natlcem/natlcem_k.htm The home page for this site states the burial listings on the site are for Civil War-era soldiers. ________________ Does anyone recognize Privates Edward E. and/or Richard P. Kimes? --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

    04/19/2008 01:17:04
    1. Re: [KEIM] Heinrich (Henry) Keim, b. 1731

    3. That is?one theory, but Heinrich, Conrad & Johannes/John are pretty common names for Germanic descent, so?that's not?a strong argument pro. Following naming patterns of that time frame, it seems unusual that the name Johannes/John seemed to have died out in my lineage. In all of the other Founder lines, John is carried on multiple times thru multiple generations. Likewise the name Heinrich/ Henry -?it just isn't there in my succeeding generations. The names Abraham & Jacob are the dominant male 1st names in my lines. The same concept applies to the female names in my lineage. There is no abundance of Mary/Maria or Elizabeth. On the other hand, the explanation for the variance in the naming pattern could be explained by the fact that early on my Kimes lineage moved physically away from?the rest of the family, so they may have been exposed to a bigger variety of names to choose from & they're family ties may not have been as strong as the lines that stayed in close contact. If only we could go back & read they're minds. Actually, the connection between Heinrich?who fathered?Abraham has yet to be documented, so my "proven" break is between those two. If that connection is ever documented, then my next step would be to document?which Heinrich. -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> To: keim@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [KEIM] Heinrich (Henry) Keim, b. 1731 Your Heinrich (Henry) Keim WAS of the "right" age to be Johannes's son, but is another reason many researchers from your line believe he was a son of "the founder" because he named a son Conrad? There weren't many Conrad Keims and Johannes named one son Conrad, one close to Heinrich's age. ssher86017@aol.com wrote: It is generally assumed & mostly accepted? that my Abraham John Kimes (Sr) is the son of Heinrich (Henry) Keim who married Anna Catherina Reber (his 2nd wife). Many of us in this lineage have serious doubts about that, but until documentation arises proving one way of the other, I'm willing to let it stand. This is the Heinrich who appears to be the son of the 2nd marriage of the USA Founder Keim - Johannes Hans (John) Keim & Maria Elizabeth Bollerin. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/19/2008 01:12:40
    1. [KEIM] another John KIMES of Bourbon Co, KY
    2. Cindy Kimes

    3. >From the Kentucky Research email list <KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com> Subject: THE LUNATICS, IDIOTS, DEAF & DUMB, INDIGENT & SLAVES - Approved by the Kentucky General Assembly. (This is not the complete list.) LUNACY/IDIOT: KIMES, John, Idiot, Bourbon, 17 Jan 1839. Mary Kimes keeping same from 1829-15 June 1838. ________________________ Note: A lunatic does not necessarily refer to a person who is insane, but can refer to a person who is senile or born afflicted. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

    04/19/2008 01:02:14
    1. Re: [KEIM] KY KIMES Civil War service
    2. Cindy Kimes

    3. These three are listed on a Nicholas Co [KY] website: Alexander Kimes John S. Kimes Lauson Kimes http://www.nicholas.k12.ky.us/community/nicholasvets/civilwarvets.htm --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

    04/18/2008 10:15:21
    1. [KEIM] KIMES Civil War service
    2. Missie

    3. >From "Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Kentucky" Vol 1 1861-1866 printed 1866 pg 1-375 Alexander KIMES, Company A, 14th Kentucky Volunteer Calvary, Private, enrolled 15 Aug 1862, mustered in 06 Nov 1862 at Mt. Sterling, KY for 1 year. Died 13 Jan 1863 pg 1-648 Marcus T. KIMES, Company D, 4th Kentucky Volunteer Infantry, Private, enrolled 19 Jul 1861, mustered in 09 Oct 1861 Camp Dick Robinson for 3 years. Mustered Out 15 Apr 1864 pg 2-13 & pg 2--652 Samuel KIMES, Company H, 18th Kentucky Volunteer Infantry, Private, enrolled 25 Sept 1861, mustered in 08 Feb 1862 Cynthiana KY for 3 years. Re-enrolled 05 Jan 1864 mustered in 09 Jan 1864 Chattanooga, TN. Mustered out 18 Jul 1865 Louisville, Ky. Received pension. Died 11 Oct 1917 at Carlisle, KY. pg 2-534 & pg 2--724 John KIMES, Company H, 53rd Kentucky Volunteer Mounted Infantry, Private, enrolled 19 Sept 1864, mustered in 17 Oct 1864 Lexington KY for 1 year. Transferred to Company E 26th Kentucky Veteran Volunteer Infantry 21 Sept 1864. Mustered out 30 Jun 1865 Salisbury, NC. Received pension. Died 26 Jun 1924 at Carlisle, KY. -- Missie in Kentucky My hobby is genealogy, I raise dust bunnies for pets!

    04/18/2008 04:04:14
    1. Re: [KEIM] ROLL CALL
    2. Jerry Kime

    3. My family line: my father Gerald Evan Kime (1916-2005) m Velma M. Thomason (1919 - 1990) Wilbur Nicholas Kime ( 1889 - 1985) m Helen Beatrice Quackenbush ( 1890 - 1981) Nicholas Wiltz Kime ( 1865 - 1957) m Clara L. Stephens ( 1867 - 1932) John Kime ( 1834 - 1886) m Mary Paulus ( 1836 - 1905) Johm Keim (1796 - aft 1870) m Sarah Blough ( 1794 - aft 1870) George Keim ( 1771 - 1849) m Veronica Berkey ( 1773 - abt 1851)

    04/18/2008 06:39:41
    1. Re: [KEIM] Roll Call

    3. I feel a bit out of place with the rest of you. As you can see, the KEIM name appears back a ways in my husband's line. Valentiine KEIM.........b:GER...d:1808 PA .....Susanna KEIM............................. b:1750-1773.....d:bef 1808 .....+Simon Peter KREISCHER........b:1754 GER.....d:1806 PA .............Susanna KREISCHER.................b:1790 PA.....d:1878 PA/MD .............+John BROWN...............................b:1782 PA.....d:1884 PA .....................John BROWN.................................b:1810 MD.....d:1889 PA ....................+Catherine GRIMES......................b:1814 PA.......d:1878 PA ...........................John Charles BROWN,Sr.............b:1849 PA.....d:1918 PA ...........................+Alice N ELLIOTT..........................b:1855 PA.....d:1918 PA .................................George M BROWN.........................b:1876 PA.....d:1962 PA .................................+Minnie R MADER.........................b:1876 PA.....d:1963 PA ..........................................Clair G BROWN............................b:1906 PA.....d:1985 PA ..........................................+Evelyn A NELSON.....................b:1909 PA.....d:1956 PA ...................................................Richard E BROWN ................. b:1946 PA.....d:2007 PA ....................................................(my husband) ...................................................+ me Yes, there are four consecutive genrations where there is a John BROWN. Three of them are listed above. There was also a SMITH in the ELLIOTT line. Eileen

    04/17/2008 11:34:29
    1. Re: [KEIM] Johann Peter Keim
    2. Arthur Kime

    3. Cindy, the only reference I have is American Ancestry Vol. 9, Pg 234 submitted by SANTEO??? So not sure of the accuracy. Art On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 Cindy writes: > Art, > We've seen the 1787 death date for Johann Peter Keim listed > before. Do you know what source lists that date? > Arthur Kime <cbito@juno.com> wrote: > Johann Peter Keim b. ca 1740 (Germany) d. 1787 (resided > in Berks Co. PA.)

    04/17/2008 01:22:23
    1. [KEIM] Roll Call
    2. Susan Burgess

    3. My line is: Heinrich KEIM, b. 1802 Bath Co., VA; m. Catharina [--?--] Valentine KIMES, Sr., b. 1775 Frederick Co., MD; m. Mary Elizabeth CUSTER Valentine KIMES, Jr., b. 1811 Old Virginia, Franklin Co., VA; m. Martha STELL David G. KIMES, b. 1844 , Wayne Co., MO; m. , Nancy Evalyn ELKINS Joseph Leander KIMES, b. 1869 , Crawford Co., AR; m. Elizabeth LEWIS Emmett DeWitt KIMES, b. 1890 , Crawford Co., AR; m. Etheland Mignon PETERSON Richard Emmett KIMES, b. 1927 Fresno, Fresno County, CA (my father) Please note that I do not list Heinrich's second wife as Catharina Reber, but only as Catharina. I have no proof that she was a Reber and it seems unlikely that he would have returned to Berks Co., PA from Frederick Co., Maryland to marry Catharina Reber. His will does list his wife's name as Catharina and so do their children's baptismal records. I also do not list Heinrich as the son of founder, Johannes Keim, since I have seen no proof of that either. If anyone has proof that this Heinrich Keim married Catharina Reber or is the son of Johannes Keim please share it with me and others on the list who doubt the veracity of these two items. Thanks, Susan -- Susan Kimes Burgess Fremont, CA suekbee@comcast.net

    04/17/2008 12:24:24
    1. Re: [KEIM] Johann Peter Keim
    2. Cindy Kimes

    3. Art, We've seen the 1787 death date for Johann Peter Keim listed before. Do you know what source lists that date? Arthur Kime <cbito@juno.com> wrote: Johann Peter Keim b. ca 1740 (Germany) d. 1787 (resided in Berks Co. PA.) --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

    04/17/2008 08:14:45
    1. Re: [KEIM] Heinrich (Henry) Keim, b. 1731
    2. Cindy Kimes

    3. Your Heinrich (Henry) Keim WAS of the "right" age to be Johannes's son, but is another reason many researchers from your line believe he was a son of "the founder" because he named a son Conrad? There weren't many Conrad Keims and Johannes named one son Conrad, one close to Heinrich's age. ssher86017@aol.com wrote: It is generally assumed & mostly accepted? that my Abraham John Kimes (Sr) is the son of Heinrich (Henry) Keim who married Anna Catherina Reber (his 2nd wife). Many of us in this lineage have serious doubts about that, but until documentation arises proving one way of the other, I'm willing to let it stand. This is the Heinrich who appears to be the son of the 2nd marriage of the USA Founder Keim - Johannes Hans (John) Keim & Maria Elizabeth Bollerin. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

    04/17/2008 07:38:39
    1. Re: [KEIM] ROLL CALL

    3. It is generally assumed & mostly accepted?that my Abraham John Kimes (Sr) is the son of Heinrich (Henry) Keim who married Anna Catherina Reber (his 2nd wife). Many of us in this lineage have serious doubts about that, but until documentation arises proving one way of the other, I'm willing to let it stand. This is the Heinrich who appears to be the son of the 2nd marriage of the USA Founder Keim - Johannes Hans (John) Keim & Maria Elizabeth Bollerin. My Documented Keim/Kimes Lineage: my 3x greats - Abraham John Kimes?married Nancy Evans (his 2nd wife) my 2x greats - Jacob J Kimes married Sarah (Sallie) Hicks my great-grandparents - Abraham?John Kimes married Daisy Dean Morton my maternal grandmother - Bertha Ellen Kimes married William Alvin Brown (both deceased) my mother - Doris Elaine Brown married Carl Hansen Eldhardt (both deceased) Me - Sherry E (nee Eldhardt) Sherman The documented lineage originates in Meigs County Ohio; thru Jackson & Bath?Counties in?Virginia; to Warren & Clinton Counties in Iowa; to Pawnee County Nebraska.

    04/17/2008 05:41:34
    1. [KEIM] Roll Call
    2. Karen Arp

    3. I'm researching the family of John Kime Sr of Adams County, Pennsylvania. John Kime Sr married Elizabeth Walter, daughter of Henry Walter. This couple had 10 surviving sons and 1 daughter: John Kime Jr (1795-1847) married Elizabeth ?; lived in Adams Co, PA Heinrich/Henry Kime (1795-1845) married Betsy Steinhower; lived in Allen Co, Indiana George Kimes (1796-1873) married Mary Lower/Louer; lived in Columbiana Co, Oho Jacob Kime (1797-1875) married Sarah Kentrell/Kendell; lived in Knox Co, Ohio Samuel Kimes (1802-1885) married(1) Elizabeth Spear; lived in Allegheny Co, PA David Kimes (1804-1855) married Mary Kandel/Kendell; lived in Ohio, Illinois (& Wisconsin) Daniel Keime (1806-1878) married Catherine Kennel/Kendell; lived in Knox Co, Ohio Susanna Elizabeth Keim (1809-1861) married Adolph William Frederick Ernest Kloepper/Clapper; lived in Adams Co Peter Kime (1813-1890) married(1)Sarah Houdeshell; married(2)Mary Noel; lived in Adams Co, PA Abraham Kime (1815-1902) married Barbara Noel; lived in Adams Co, PA I've posted the family tree for the above individuals at rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=klarp_kime Also included in the above tree is the family of Samuel Kimes of Adams County, Pennsylvania (Samuel may have been a brother of John Kime Sr). --- Karen Arp karp@pobox.com

    04/17/2008 03:31:39
    1. Re: [KEIM] ROLL CALL
    2. Arthur Kime

    3. My ancestors include: Elroy Kime b.1894 (MI), d.1972 (IN) m. Marie Kizer Jacob Kime b.1862 (IN), d.1941 (IN) m. Lydia Miller/Müller John Kime b.1840 (OH), d.1868 (IN) m. Elizabeth Berkey George W. Kime/Keim b.1810 (PA) d.1890 (MI) m. Mary Steele George Kime/Keim b.1771 (PA) d.1849 (OH) m. Veronica Berkey above: a brother of infamous Nicholas Keim (3 wifes - 21 children) Johann Peter Keim b. ca 1740 (Germany) d. 1787 (resided in Berks Co. PA.) Arthur Kime

    04/17/2008 02:42:42
    1. Re: [KEIM] Roll Call
    2. Missie

    3. My lineage: Jacob KIMES (b. 1740-1750 PA, d. 1839 Nicholas Co, KY) > ca 1799 Allegany Co, MD > ca 1809 Bourbon Co, KY > ca 1831 Nicholas Co, KY father of Catherine Elizabeth KIMES (b 1781 MD d. 1858 Brown Co, OH) m Jonathan BURRIS Allegany Co,MD, 1799 > ca 1799 Allegany Co, MD > ca 1807 Bourbon Co, KY > ca 1819 Montgomery Co, KY > 1821 Brown Co, OH mother of Jacob BURRIS (b. 1802 Allegany Co, MD d 1875 Bourbon Co, KY)m Nancy Workman Bourbon Co, KY, 1825 > 1802 Allegany Co, MD > ca 1807 Bourbon Co, KY > ca 1819 Montgomery Co, KY > 1825 Brown Co, OH father of, GGGrandfather Burris father of, GGrandfather Burris father of, Grandfather Burris father of, my mother -- Missie My hobby is genealogy, I raise dust bunnies for pets!

    04/17/2008 12:59:41
    1. [KEIM] ROLL CALL

    3. My ancestors include: Neva Keim 1900 - 1969 Grandmother Martin Luther Keim 1871- 1905 Ephriam Keim 1844 - 1917 Nicholas Keim Jr. 1812 - 1866 Nicholas Keim Sr 1768 - 1830 Kathy Aeschliman **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

    04/17/2008 12:02:10
    1. [KEIM] Roll Call

    3. Jacob Keim 1763 PA - 1855 WV M: Anna Marie Hahn 1766 PA - C1827 Sarah Keim 1795 PA - 1873 OH M: Johannes B. Schall 1791 VA - 1867 OH Susannah Shaull 1818 WV - 1884 OH M: Christian Brown 1815 MD - 1847 OH John William Brown 1841 OH - 1929 IA M: Eliza Jane Bell 1837 OH - 1885 IA Amanda Ellen Brown 1869 IA - 1953 CA M: John Moses Hall 1863 IA - 1938 CA Ila Mae Hall 1910 CA - 1989 CA M: John William Tate 1904 CA - 1996 CA Jean Louise Tate CA M: Howard Woodrow Wheeler CA

    04/16/2008 05:00:51