I have found in my searches that they often were off on their ages by a couple of years when the census taker came around, so it's difficult to say if we will ever know the correct year of birth. If I find a baptism record, which would be terrific, I will gladly share it with the list. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> wrote: > Sometimes tombstones are not accurate. In George's case, the tombstone > lists: > > GEORGE KIME > d. 16 Apr 1871 > 72y3m12d > > That makes his birthdate 04 Jan 1799, but who really knew exactly how old > George was? > > If one looks at census records, 1850 and 1860 are in agreement. > The 1860 census lists George at age 58. That places his birth at > 1801-1802. > 1850 census lists George at age 48. Same birthdate, 1801-1802. > [I couldn't find George on the 1870 census] > > With knowledge of George and his siblings in later life, then looking at > his father's household in 1810, one can (in all probability) identify > George: > > 1810 - Schuylkill Twp, Berks Co, PA > MALES > 2 under 10 (likely George and Conrad) > 1 10-16 (likely Jacob, b. 1796) > 1 16-26 (likely Johannes, b. 1789) > 1 26-45 (Conrad, the father) > 0 45+ > > It appears George was b. 1800-1810, but like Sherry said the other day... > we have to keep an open mind. Identity of these males could be incorrect. > > So how does one know for sure? Genea. seminars frequently discuss > birthdates and professional researchers suggest one look at the documented > record closest in date to the actual record you seek. So what documented > record(s) do you have close to George's birth? A baptism record would be > great! George was likely baptized (other siblings were). The problem will > be finding the record if one still exists! Good luck in your search! [and > if you locate the baptism record, we'd love if you would share it with us!] > > > Nancy Kime <nbk1748@gmail.com> wrote: > I've just been going thru some old cemetery pics from the Kime/Repp > Cemetery in Burbank, Ohio, when glancing at one of the pics of the stone of > George Kime, son of Conrad b. 1764 and Anna Maria Repp Kime....the stone > shows his > date of death as April 16, 1871, as is well known but his age as 72 yrs. > That makes his date of birth 1799, not 1804 as is documented every place I > have seen. Can anyone clear this up for me? My husband has been telling me > for years that George was born in 1799 but I told him he was wrong, until I > found this old file of pics we had taken back in the 1980's. So, now some > correction is needed. > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Sometimes tombstones are not accurate. In George's case, the tombstone lists: GEORGE KIME d. 16 Apr 1871 72y3m12d That makes his birthdate 04 Jan 1799, but who really knew exactly how old George was? If one looks at census records, 1850 and 1860 are in agreement. The 1860 census lists George at age 58. That places his birth at 1801-1802. 1850 census lists George at age 48. Same birthdate, 1801-1802. [I couldn't find George on the 1870 census] With knowledge of George and his siblings in later life, then looking at his father's household in 1810, one can (in all probability) identify George: 1810 - Schuylkill Twp, Berks Co, PA MALES 2 under 10 (likely George and Conrad) 1 10-16 (likely Jacob, b. 1796) 1 16-26 (likely Johannes, b. 1789) 1 26-45 (Conrad, the father) 0 45+ It appears George was b. 1800-1810, but like Sherry said the other day... we have to keep an open mind. Identity of these males could be incorrect. So how does one know for sure? Genea. seminars frequently discuss birthdates and professional researchers suggest one look at the documented record closest in date to the actual record you seek. So what documented record(s) do you have close to George's birth? A baptism record would be great! George was likely baptized (other siblings were). The problem will be finding the record if one still exists! Good luck in your search! [and if you locate the baptism record, we'd love if you would share it with us!] Nancy Kime <nbk1748@gmail.com> wrote: I've just been going thru some old cemetery pics from the Kime/Repp Cemetery in Burbank, Ohio, when glancing at one of the pics of the stone of George Kime, son of Conrad b. 1764 and Anna Maria Repp Kime....the stone shows his date of death as April 16, 1871, as is well known but his age as 72 yrs. That makes his date of birth 1799, not 1804 as is documented every place I have seen. Can anyone clear this up for me? My husband has been telling me for years that George was born in 1799 but I told him he was wrong, until I found this old file of pics we had taken back in the 1980's. So, now some correction is needed. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Hi List, I've just been going thru some old cemetery pics from the Kime/Repp Cemetery in Burbank, Ohio, when glancing at one of the pics of the stone of George Kime, son of Conrad b. 1764 and Anna Maria Repp Kime....the stone shows his date of death as April 16, 1871, as is well known but his age as 72 yrs. That makes his date of birth 1799, not 1804 as is documented every place I have seen. Can anyone clear this up for me? My husband has been telling me for years that George was born in 1799 but I told him he was wrong, until I found this old file of pics we had taken back in the 1980's. So, now some correction is needed. Thanks, Nancy
I have a comment on the standard?generation?of 30 yrs, which is the accepted norm.?Recognize it's an average, which means several generations were used, then?averaged together to make the 30 yr standard. That standard is highly dependent on age when married & age of parents at birth of first child. In my specific family lines, over the past 5 generations (up to & including my own), the average comes out to be closer to 25 yrs (my ancestors married & reproduced?young obviously). But if you look at the generations following mine (my children, nieces, nephews & their offspring), they're tending toward lengthening generation years, due to the fact that people are waiting longer to get married & start having children. I think this trend bears out in the general population. There's another tendency that genealogists need to keep in mind.?The number of generation years change when you consider that people are having fewer children, and in many cases those children are quite a few years apart. In my generation, all 20 grandchildren of my paternal grandparents were born within a 9 year span, so we were all fairly close in age. However, my parents' 10 grandchildren were born over a 22 year span, and my own grandchildren will be an even larger span, since my eldest grandchild is 24 yrs old now & my son is?32 & just now getting married & they plan to have children but not immediately. In my family of origin, the generations severely overlap. My son is closer to his nephew & nieces' ages than his sister's age.?My sister's last daughter is younger than?her first grandson. This skews how you look for them generationally. It would be easy to assume that my niece & grand-nephew are in the same generation, when they're actually 2 different generations, and! even tho he's the older, she's a generation prior to him. This same thing occurred in the past when people had many children over many years. Sometimes this occurred when there were multiple marriages with children born in several of the marriages. I suspect we'll see it even more pronounced as we go forward generationally. Often the oldest & youngest child were/are as many as 20+?years apart. Birth position within the family of origin makes a big difference. I mention these thoughts cuz I've been led astray by drawing conclusions too quickly based on generation calculations. Use it as a basis but recognize there are many variables that could throw it off, so keep an open mind. Sherry in Colorado -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 8:49 am Subject: Re: [KEIM] George Keim+Catharine Schenkel of Chester co., Pa. Somewhere in genealogical standards I've read to figure an average of three generations per century. That figures b. 1711, 1744, 1777, then 1811.
Hello! I know that I posted this a couple of years ago, but since we may have new people who have not seen it and since we are discussing naming issues, I wanted to mention this site that was very helpful to me: http://www.kerchner.com/germname.htm It specifically deals with the whole Johannes/Johann/Hans issue. Hope it helps! Sincerely, Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: keim-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:keim-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cindy Kimes Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:49 AM To: keim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KEIM] George Keim+Catharine Schenkel of Chester co., Pa. In Issue 4 of "Keim & Allied Families in America and Europe" (K & AF), Othniel Keim related George's ancestry: George, b. 1753, son of Johannes, b. ca 1732, son of Johannes, b. 1711 He added that Johannes, b. ca 1732, had four sons - George (eldest), John, Peter, and Stephen. ____________________________________ According to Othniel... Johannes (b. ca 1732) broke tradition of naming first born son Johannes. This seems somewhat strange for the time period. Secondly, in the lineage, both Johanneses would have married and had their first son (not first child necessarily) by age 21. This was also somewhat unusual for that time in history. George's full names is listed several times as Hans George Keim. Looking at the founder's family, we see the first son was named Johannes, the "es" indicating son of Johann. and Hans was used in various forms in other sons' names: Johan Stophel Keim Hans Nickel Keim Johann Jacob Keim Johann Conrad Keim Instead of the above lineage, I have to wonder if the George that married Catharine Schenkel wasn't a son of Johannes, b. 1711, and likely had an older brother named Johannes. Somewhere in genealogical standards I've read to figure an average of three generations per century. That figures b. 1711, 1744, 1777, then 1811. Comments?? Thoughts??? Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> wrote: Some researchers state George's father was John Keim, eldest son of Johannes Keim, patriarch of the Oley KEIMs. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In Issue 4 of "Keim & Allied Families in America and Europe" (K & AF), Othniel Keim related George's ancestry: George, b. 1753, son of Johannes, b. ca 1732, son of Johannes, b. 1711 He added that Johannes, b. ca 1732, had four sons - George (eldest), John, Peter, and Stephen. ____________________________________ According to Othniel... Johannes (b. ca 1732) broke tradition of naming first born son Johannes. This seems somewhat strange for the time period. Secondly, in the lineage, both Johanneses would have married and had their first son (not first child necessarily) by age 21. This was also somewhat unusual for that time in history. George's full names is listed several times as Hans George Keim. Looking at the founder's family, we see the first son was named Johannes, the "es" indicating son of Johann. and Hans was used in various forms in other sons' names: Johan Stophel Keim Hans Nickel Keim Johann Jacob Keim Johann Conrad Keim Instead of the above lineage, I have to wonder if the George that married Catharine Schenkel wasn't a son of Johannes, b. 1711, and likely had an older brother named Johannes. Somewhere in genealogical standards I've read to figure an average of three generations per century. That figures b. 1711, 1744, 1777, then 1811. Comments?? Thoughts??? Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> wrote: Some researchers state George's father was John Keim, eldest son of Johannes Keim, patriarch of the Oley KEIMs. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
That's correct, it only proves that George participated in the Revolutionary War in some capacity, not the lineage back to Johannes. The DAR does not require or ask you to do that, in fact they don't want that, they only want you to go as far back as the Patriot. And it does NOT show George's father in the record for further clarification! As a member I have checked on that. Nancy On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> wrote: > To clarify exactly what that means, Nancy... it's that someone has proven > their lineage back to George Keim and George participated in some way in the > Revolutionary War. RIGHT? > > But, said proof for DAR wouldn't state who George's father was, would it? > > > Nancy Kime <nbk1748@gmail.com> wrote: > In response to Jo's statement that "this line is proved by the DAR", I am > a member of the DAR and just started the research for my husband to make > application to the SAR in the name of Conrad Keim, b. 1734, so I checked. > George Keim and Catherine Schenkel are proved in the DAR records. > > Nancy Kime > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
To clarify exactly what that means, Nancy... it's that someone has proven their lineage back to George Keim and George participated in some way in the Revolutionary War. RIGHT? But, said proof for DAR wouldn't state who George's father was, would it? Nancy Kime <nbk1748@gmail.com> wrote: In response to Jo's statement that "this line is proved by the DAR", I am a member of the DAR and just started the research for my husband to make application to the SAR in the name of Conrad Keim, b. 1734, so I checked. George Keim and Catherine Schenkel are proved in the DAR records. Nancy Kime --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
In response to Jo's statement that "this line is proved by the DAR", I am a member of the DAR and just started the research for my husband to make application to the SAR in the name of Conrad Keim, b. 1734, so I checked. George Keim and Catherine Schenkel are proved in the DAR records. Nancy Kime On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Jo's Family Tree < josfamilytree@charter.net> wrote: > Geroge's parents: > Jacob Keim b. 24 Oct 1724 I don't have his date of death in my program, > but > I have it in paperwork somewhere around here. > Catharine Stump -- again, no dates in my database but around here > somewhere > (and I don't have time to look at the moment.) > > Jacob's parents: > Johannes (John) Keim b. 1670 Speier, Germany > Bertha DeTurk date of death Bef. 01 Jan 1730/31 > > Info provided to me by a distant cousin who is in the DAR and says this > line > is proved. She sent me copies, but I haven't looked at it in a few years. > > Jo > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Uffenorde" <pat.uffenorde@comcast.net> > To: <KEIM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:04 AM > Subject: [KEIM] George Keim+Catharine Schenkel of Chester co., Pa. > > > > Hello to all Keim Listers, > > > > I am wondering if someone familiar with the ( George Keim born 1753 > > Harmonyville, Chester co., Pa. died 1836 in East Nantmeal Twsp., Chester > > co., Pa. married Catharine Schenkel 1757- 1838) line can tell me the > > parents of George and Catharine. > > > > Thus far, I have seen Johannes Keim 1675-1753 and wife Maria Elizabeth > > Bollerin . Also, I have seen Johannes Peter Keim1711- 1782 and wife > > Catherine Stump 1711- 1732. But, if those dates are correct for > Catherine > > Stump then her son being born 1753 does not fit. I am confused. Who are > > the real parents of George Keim and Catharine Schenkel??? > > > > Thanks So Much, > > Pat Uffenorde Researching : Keim, Schenkel, Urner, Reinhart, Switzer, > > Stoneback of Chester county, Pennsylvania > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
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my lineage, Daniel Kimes b 1804 Pa. mElizabeth Cosby b 1811 Oh. d 1880 Josiah b 1838 In. mCatherine Irwin Walker b 1840 Crawford Co. In. Edward b1873 d 1942 m Josphine Clayton b1876 d 1960 Union Co. Ky. Emrie b1899 d 1986 mAlma Bernardi b1906 d1996 Sulpher,In. Me Floyd Co. In. Basil
This is my line: John Peter Keim 1734---1787 Nicholas Keim Sr. 1768--1830 & his first wife Jacob Keim 1798--1879 David Keim 1832--1915 Dennis Keim 1857--1941 William Walter Keim 1888--1934 Darrell Alva Keim 1913--1995 Larry Dean Keim (my husband) Any cousin's down this line? e-mail me at: marilyn@keimtime.com
John Kimes b 1711 Oley, son of Johannes, is supposed to have settled in Warwick Twp, Chester Co PA before 1831. His sons reportedly were George b1753, Stephen, John b1755 and Peter b1756. I believe the source for the above is Keim & Allied Families. If there is proof of this, we've not yet read it on this email list. Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> wrote: This isn't my line, but I've seen genealogies that list George's father as Jacob, and then there are other researchers who state George's father was John Keim, eldest son of Johannes Keim, patriarch of the Oley KEIMs. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
When I get a chance, I'll go through the papers. But that may be some time because I am a homeschooling mom, and this is our busiest season. My father is gravely ill at the moment, too. I don't have a lot of spare time at the moment, sadly, and I really will have to dig to find the paperwork. I will keep this message and flag it to spur my memory, though. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Kimes" <cindykimes@yahoo.com> To: <keim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [KEIM] George Keim+Catharine Schenkel of Chester co., Pa. This isn't my line, but I've seen genealogies that list George's father as Jacob, and then there are other researchers who state George's father was John Keim, eldest son of Johannes Keim, patriarch of the Oley KEIMs. JOHANN JACOB KEIM was born 24 October 1724 in Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA, and died 18 October 1799 in Rockland Twp, Berks Co, PA. Abstract of his will: Keim, JACOB, Rockland. January 21, 1789 - November 16, 1799. Provides for wife Magdalena. To son John my 3 adjoining tracts of land containing 50, 51 and 23 A. 95 P. in Rockland Twp, he paying after wife's decease £400 to children John, Barbara GRIESMER widow, and Ester Keim. To dau. Barbara GRIESMER tract of land where son John now lives in Rockland containing 72 acres 78 perches for £150. Remainder to be divided, daus. portions to £500. Exrs: Son John and friend Thomas LEE, Jr. Wits: Abraham Hoch/High and Jacob WEIDNER. You notice his will does not mention a George, which doesn't prove anything, but places a question on a direct link between the two. So, Jo, many of us would be interested in the proof your distant cousin provided. Hope you will let us know what it is, when you find the data! :-) Jo's Family Tree <josfamilytree@charter.net> wrote: Geroge's parents: Jacob Keim b. 24 Oct 1724 I don't have his date of death in my program, but I have it in paperwork somewhere around here. Catharine Stump -- again, no dates in my database but around here somewhere (and I don't have time to look at the moment.) Jacob's parents: Johannes (John) Keim b. 1670 Speier, Germany Bertha DeTurk date of death Bef. 01 Jan 1730/31 Info provided to me by a distant cousin who is in the DAR and says this line is proved. She sent me copies, but I haven't looked at it in a few years. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Uffenorde" To: Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:04 AM Subject: [KEIM] George Keim+Catharine Schenkel of Chester co., Pa. > Hello to all Keim Listers, > > I am wondering if someone familiar with the ( George Keim born 1753 > Harmonyville, Chester co., Pa. died 1836 in East Nantmeal Twsp., Chester > co., Pa. married Catharine Schenkel 1757- 1838) line can tell me the > parents of George and Catharine. > > Thus far, I have seen Johannes Keim 1675-1753 and wife Maria Elizabeth > Bollerin . Also, I have seen Johannes Peter Keim1711- 1782 and wife > Catherine Stump 1711- 1732. But, if those dates are correct for Catherine > Stump then her son being born 1753 does not fit. I am confused. Who are > the real parents of George Keim and Catharine Schenkel??? > > Thanks So Much, > Pat Uffenorde Researching : Keim, Schenkel, Urner, Reinhart, Switzer, > Stoneback of Chester county, Pennsylvania > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This isn't my line, but I've seen genealogies that list George's father as Jacob, and then there are other researchers who state George's father was John Keim, eldest son of Johannes Keim, patriarch of the Oley KEIMs. JOHANN JACOB KEIM was born 24 October 1724 in Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA, and died 18 October 1799 in Rockland Twp, Berks Co, PA. Abstract of his will: Keim, JACOB, Rockland. January 21, 1789 - November 16, 1799. Provides for wife Magdalena. To son John my 3 adjoining tracts of land containing 50, 51 and 23 A. 95 P. in Rockland Twp, he paying after wife's decease £400 to children John, Barbara GRIESMER widow, and Ester Keim. To dau. Barbara GRIESMER tract of land where son John now lives in Rockland containing 72 acres 78 perches for £150. Remainder to be divided, daus. portions to £500. Exrs: Son John and friend Thomas LEE, Jr. Wits: Abraham Hoch/High and Jacob WEIDNER. You notice his will does not mention a George, which doesn't prove anything, but places a question on a direct link between the two. So, Jo, many of us would be interested in the proof your distant cousin provided. Hope you will let us know what it is, when you find the data! :-) Jo's Family Tree <josfamilytree@charter.net> wrote: Geroge's parents: Jacob Keim b. 24 Oct 1724 I don't have his date of death in my program, but I have it in paperwork somewhere around here. Catharine Stump -- again, no dates in my database but around here somewhere (and I don't have time to look at the moment.) Jacob's parents: Johannes (John) Keim b. 1670 Speier, Germany Bertha DeTurk date of death Bef. 01 Jan 1730/31 Info provided to me by a distant cousin who is in the DAR and says this line is proved. She sent me copies, but I haven't looked at it in a few years. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Uffenorde" To: Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:04 AM Subject: [KEIM] George Keim+Catharine Schenkel of Chester co., Pa. > Hello to all Keim Listers, > > I am wondering if someone familiar with the ( George Keim born 1753 > Harmonyville, Chester co., Pa. died 1836 in East Nantmeal Twsp., Chester > co., Pa. married Catharine Schenkel 1757- 1838) line can tell me the > parents of George and Catharine. > > Thus far, I have seen Johannes Keim 1675-1753 and wife Maria Elizabeth > Bollerin . Also, I have seen Johannes Peter Keim1711- 1782 and wife > Catherine Stump 1711- 1732. But, if those dates are correct for Catherine > Stump then her son being born 1753 does not fit. I am confused. Who are > the real parents of George Keim and Catharine Schenkel??? > > Thanks So Much, > Pat Uffenorde Researching : Keim, Schenkel, Urner, Reinhart, Switzer, > Stoneback of Chester county, Pennsylvania > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
1890 Gaithersburg Md Census shows that Henry was a pirvate in Co A, 1st Regiment Volunteer Maryland ____. He served 2 yrs 6 mos, 1863 - 1865 fyi:Ancestry has him indexed under "Henry Limes" Henry was not found in the 1880 or 1900 Federal Census for Gaithersburg, Montgomery Co, Md. -- Missie in Kentucky My hobby is genealogy, I raise dust bunnies for pets! On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:49 AM, <keim-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > 3. Henry Kimes, Union soldier (Cindy Kimes) > > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:09:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> > Subject: [KEIM] Henry Kimes, Union soldier > To: Keim <keim@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <949001.30620.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > A Henry Kimes (or his widow) was living in Gaithersburg, MD, in 1890: > > Census of 1890, Veterans & Widows > http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/refserv/quickref/html/1890speccensus.html > > This site says this is a list of Union soldiers. The only Henry listed on > the Civil War Soldiers & Sailors search serving for the Union was the Henry > in the Independent Battery E, Pennsylvania Light Artillery. > > Anyone have any idea which Henry this is? > > >
Geroge's parents: Jacob Keim b. 24 Oct 1724 I don't have his date of death in my program, but I have it in paperwork somewhere around here. Catharine Stump -- again, no dates in my database but around here somewhere (and I don't have time to look at the moment.) Jacob's parents: Johannes (John) Keim b. 1670 Speier, Germany Bertha DeTurk date of death Bef. 01 Jan 1730/31 Info provided to me by a distant cousin who is in the DAR and says this line is proved. She sent me copies, but I haven't looked at it in a few years. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Uffenorde" <pat.uffenorde@comcast.net> To: <KEIM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:04 AM Subject: [KEIM] George Keim+Catharine Schenkel of Chester co., Pa. > Hello to all Keim Listers, > > I am wondering if someone familiar with the ( George Keim born 1753 > Harmonyville, Chester co., Pa. died 1836 in East Nantmeal Twsp., Chester > co., Pa. married Catharine Schenkel 1757- 1838) line can tell me the > parents of George and Catharine. > > Thus far, I have seen Johannes Keim 1675-1753 and wife Maria Elizabeth > Bollerin . Also, I have seen Johannes Peter Keim1711- 1782 and wife > Catherine Stump 1711- 1732. But, if those dates are correct for Catherine > Stump then her son being born 1753 does not fit. I am confused. Who are > the real parents of George Keim and Catharine Schenkel??? > > Thanks So Much, > Pat Uffenorde Researching : Keim, Schenkel, Urner, Reinhart, Switzer, > Stoneback of Chester county, Pennsylvania > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KEIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello to all Keim Listers, I am wondering if someone familiar with the ( George Keim born 1753 Harmonyville, Chester co., Pa. died 1836 in East Nantmeal Twsp., Chester co., Pa. married Catharine Schenkel 1757- 1838) line can tell me the parents of George and Catharine. Thus far, I have seen Johannes Keim 1675-1753 and wife Maria Elizabeth Bollerin . Also, I have seen Johannes Peter Keim1711- 1782 and wife Catherine Stump 1711- 1732. But, if those dates are correct for Catherine Stump then her son being born 1753 does not fit. I am confused. Who are the real parents of George Keim and Catharine Schenkel??? Thanks So Much, Pat Uffenorde Researching : Keim, Schenkel, Urner, Reinhart, Switzer, Stoneback of Chester county, Pennsylvania
A Henry Kimes (or his widow) was living in Gaithersburg, MD, in 1890: Census of 1890, Veterans & Widows http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/refserv/quickref/html/1890speccensus.html This site says this is a list of Union soldiers. The only Henry listed on the Civil War Soldiers & Sailors search serving for the Union was the Henry in the Independent Battery E, Pennsylvania Light Artillery. Anyone have any idea which Henry this is? --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Do you know that 21 was considered to be the age when one was no longer a minor back in 1799? For example, If 15 was that age, then Abraham could have been born in 1784 . . . -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Cindy Kimes <cindykimes@yahoo.com> > Someone shared the following will for Henry Kimes/Heinrich Keim. My question > concerns the age of son Abraham. Will dated 17 Dec. 1799 and it says minor son. > So he was born after Dec 1778???? > > Bath Co, Virginia Will Book 1, p. 229 > Will of Henry Kime of Bath Co. > Home plantation to wife, Catherine, and then to son Valentine. > 54 acres tract where Stephen Rierson formerly lived to minor son, Abraham. > 5 shillings each to children, Conrad Kime, Christina Martingood, Catherine > Deale, Lisey Rierson, Jacob Kime, and Molly Kime. > Son Valentine to care for his mother when old and infirm, they being the > executors. > Witnesses Charles Cameron, Thomas L. Lewis, Anthony Mustoe, Samuel Gay. > Dated 17 Dec. 1799 and moved July Court 1802. > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KEIM-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message