Yes ... the specific address is: keim@ridgecrest.ca.us. Thanks Joe -----Original Message----- From: Cindy [mailto:ckimes@mvillage.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 4:14 AM To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KEIM] Re: Removal from list Joe Keim wrote: > > Please remove my name from your distribution. > We have no subscriber with this address: Keim@ridgenet.net But, there is KEIM mail going to <keim@ridgecrest.ca.us> Is this your email address? ==== KEIM Mailing List ==== In reference to posting information, keep in mind that copyrights must be observed, which basically means no copying "word for word" anything published in the last 75 years.

Chester County has been home to several KEIM families since the 1700's. Ancestry.com now has "Chester County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1713-1825" free to search until 11/17/2000. This database contains records of wills proved between 1713 and 1825. Information about living heirs, occupations, residences, and family relationships is detailed in the data. Might be you'll find something new about your kin! To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4895.htm

Joe Keim wrote: > > Please remove my name from your distribution. > We have no subscriber with this address: Keim@ridgenet.net But, there is KEIM mail going to <keim@ridgecrest.ca.us> Is this your email address?

Hi Folks! My Keim is my GGGgramother Susan/Susanna Keim. She married Jacob Bieber in 1811. This is what I have on them and some of their descendants. Most of my sources came from Berks Genealogy Society and Lehigh County Historical Society. I hope this helps researchers. Melissa 1. SUSANNA1 KEIM was born April 06, 1786 in Berks County, PA, and died February 17, 1872 in Berks County, PA. She married JACOB BIEBER 1811, son of JACOB BIEBER and ESTHER LESHER. He was born January 28, 1789 in Berks County, PA, and died April 04, 1863 in Berks County, PA. Children of SUSANNA KEIM and JACOB BIEBER are: i. SUSANNA2 BIEBER, b. December 01, 1812, Berks County, PA; d. Berks County, PA; m. SAMUEL WARMKESSEL; b. Berks County, PA; d. Berks County, PA. 2. ii. ELIZABETH BIEBER, b. May 20, 1817, Berks County, PA; d. Berks County, PA. iii. JACOB BIEBER, b. 1819, Berks County, PA; d. 1899, Oto, Woodbury County, IA; m. ELIZABETH LANDIS; b. 1819, Berks County, PA; d. 1896, Oto, Woodbury County, IA. iv. SARAH BIEBER, b. October 15, 1821. 3. v. ESTHER BIEBER, b. December 1822, Berks County, PA; d. Berks County, PA. 4. vi. JONAS BIEBER, b. December 12, 1829, Longswamp Township, Berks County; d. January 19, 1901, Rockland Township, Berks County. 2. ELIZABETH2 BIEBER (SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born May 20, 1817 in Berks County, PA, and died in Berks County, PA. She married JACOB LONG. He was born 1816 in Berks County, PA, and died in Berks County, PA. Child of ELIZABETH BIEBER and JACOB LONG is: 5. i. STEPHEN3 LONG, b. August 02, 1844, Berks County, PA; d. November 27, 1931, Berks County, PA. 3. ESTHER2 BIEBER (SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born December 1822 in Berks County, PA, and died in Berks County, PA. She married WILLIAM WEISER. He was born 1820 in Berks County, PA, and died in Berks County, PA. Children of ESTHER BIEBER and WILLIAM WEISER are: i. ALVIN3 WEISER. ii. OLIVER WEISER. 4. JONAS2 BIEBER (SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born December 12, 1829 in Longswamp Township, Berks County, and died January 19, 1901 in Rockland Township, Berks County. He married ANNIE ECK May 18, 1852, daughter of DANIEL ECK and MARY (REBECCA)KASS/KEHS. She was born March 16, 1825 in Longswamp Township, Berks County, and died October 31, 1905 in Topton, Berks County. Children of JONAS BIEBER and ANNIE ECK are: 6. i. EMMA3 BIEBER, b. Rockland Township, Berks County; d. Cementon, Northampton County, PA. 7. ii. ELIZABETH BIEBER, b. September 21, 1854, Longswamp Township, Berks County; d. November 12, 1941, Mertztown, Berks County, PA. iii. WILLIAM BIEBER, b. March 26, 1857. iv. MARY BIEBER, b. July 04, 1859; d. January 01, 1944, Berks County. 8. v. SUSAN BIEBER, b. Abt. 1860, Rockland Township, Berks County; d. July 25, 1947, Allentown, PA. 9. vi. GEORGE BIEBER, b. October 14, 1863, Longswamp Township, Berks County; d. November 12, 1954, Emmaus, Lehigh County, PA. 10. vii. BENJAMIN BIEBER, b. Abt. 1866, Longswamp Township, Berks County; d. Topton, Berks County. 11. viii. LOUISA BIEBER, b. Abt. 1866, Longswamp Township, Berks County. ix. LILLIE BIEBER, b. June 07, 1869. 5. STEPHEN3 LONG (ELIZABETH2 BIEBER, SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born August 02, 1844 in Berks County, PA, and died November 27, 1931 in Berks County, PA. He married SARAH PILGERT. She was born July 31, 1853 in Berks County, PA, and died March 03, 1931 in Berks County, PA. Children of STEPHEN LONG and SARAH PILGERT are: i. JACOB4 LONG. ii. CLARA LONG. iii. AMANDUS LONG, b. July 12, 1878, Berks County, PA; d. November 24, 1951; m. LIZZIE REINHART; b. February 25, 1876, Berks County, PA; d. March 15, 1933. 6. EMMA3 BIEBER (JONAS2, SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born in Rockland Township, Berks County, and died in Cementon, Northampton County, PA. She married CHARLES FEGLEY. He was born Abt. 1854. Children of EMMA BIEBER and CHARLES FEGLEY are: i. LAURA4 FEGLEY. ii. NEVIN FEGLEY. 7. ELIZABETH3 BIEBER (JONAS2, SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born September 21, 1854 in Longswamp Township, Berks County, and died November 12, 1941 in Mertztown, Berks County, PA. She married RAYMOND ALVIN DANKEL in Berks County. He was born Abt. 1852, and died in Mertztown, Berks County, PA. Children of ELIZABETH BIEBER and RAYMOND DANKEL are: i. CHARLES4 DANKEL. ii. WILLIAM DANKEL. iii. SALLIE DANKEL, b. Longswamp Township, Berks County, PA; d. December 28, 1953, Topton, Berks County, PA; m. LEON FENSTERMACHER; b. PA; d. Topton, Berks County, PA. 8. SUSAN3 BIEBER (JONAS2, SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born Abt. 1860 in Rockland Township, Berks County, and died July 25, 1947 in Allentown, PA. She married GEORGE HENRY SCHLICHER, son of JONAS SCHLICHER and CATHARINA FAHRINGER. He was born in Upper Macungie, Lehigh County, and died October 04, 1934 in Allentown, PA. Children of SUSAN BIEBER and GEORGE SCHLICHER are: i. HERBERT4 SCHLICHER. ii. ANNIE SCHLICHER. iii. HARRY SCHLICHER, b. September 28, 1896, Lehigh County, PA; d. August 1971, Coplay, PA; m. MABEL KNERR, February 25, 1921; b. March 03, 1895; d. January 1978, Coplay, PA.. iv. CHARLES MONROE SCHLICHER, b. January 07, 1905, Allentown, PA; d. April 01, 1977, Allentown, PA; m. BERTHA UNGER; b. April 04, 1908, Allentown, PA; d. August 1979, Allentown, PA. 9. GEORGE3 BIEBER (JONAS2, SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born October 14, 1863 in Longswamp Township, Berks County, and died November 12, 1954 in Emmaus, Lehigh County, PA. He married ANNA GEIST April 12, 1884. She was born December 18, 1866, and died January 16, 1945 in Emmaus, Lehigh County, PA. Children of GEORGE BIEBER and ANNA GEIST are: i. IDA4 BIEBER. ii. LIZZIE BIEBER, b. 1884, Lehigh County, PA; m. OSCAR KEHM. iii. EDWIN BIEBER, b. Abt. 1886, Lehigh County, PA; d. Lehigh County, PA; m. SADIE DAVID; b. Lehigh County, PA; d. Lehigh County, PA. iv. JENNIE L. BIEBER, b. Abt. 1890, Lehigh County, PA; d. Lehigh County, PA; m. MATHIAS FRANK FEGELY; b. Lehigh County, PA; d. Lehigh County, PA. v. SARAH AGNES BIEBER, b. Abt. 1893, Lehigh County, PA; d. Lehigh County, PA; m. RAYMOND FEGELY; b. Lehigh County, PA; d. Lehigh County, PA. vi. ROSA M. BIEBER, b. Abt. 1896, Lehigh County, PA; d. PA; m. MORRIS STAUFFER; b. Lehigh County, PA; d. PA. vii. LAURA MARIE BIEBER, b. Abt. 1903, Lehigh County, PA; m. RAYMOND MEITZLER. viii. HAROLD BIEBER, b. July 21, 1909; d. May 1981, Allentown, Lehigh County, PA. ix. FLORENCE BIEBER, b. Lehigh County, PA; m. HARRY ROTH. 10. BENJAMIN3 BIEBER (JONAS2, SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born Abt. 1866 in Longswamp Township, Berks County, and died in Topton, Berks County. He married MONTANA GERHART Abt. 1886. She died in Topton, Berks County. Child of BENJAMIN BIEBER and MONTANA GERHART is: i. LLOYD4 BIEBER, b. October 07, 1887, Berks County, PA; d. 1945, Berks County, PA; m. CARRIE ROHRBACH; b. Berks County, PA; d. Berks County, PA. 11. LOUISA3 BIEBER (JONAS2, SUSANNA1 KEIM) was born Abt. 1866 in Longswamp Township, Berks County. She married WILLIAM WEIL. He was born Abt. 1864. Children of LOUISA BIEBER and WILLIAM WEIL are: i. MINNIE4 WEIL. ii. WILLIAM WEIL. iii. ESTHER/BESSIE WEIL. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

melissa repash wrote: > > Hi Folks! My Keim is my GGGgramother Susan/Susanna Keim. She married Jacob > Bieber in 1811. This is what I have on them and some of their descendants. > Most of my sources came from Berks Genealogy Society and Lehigh County > Historical Society. I hope this helps researchers. > Melissa, when you write "My Keim" do you mean Susan/Susanna Keim is your brick wall?

It has been some time since I've been able to participate. Unfortunately, I don't see things changing for a couple of years - at least. Please remove my name from your distribution. It has been tons of fun and I've enjoyed the connection over the last couple of years! Joe Keim

----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivian Brinker" <vivianb@inetserver.ccc.cc.ks.us> ======================================================= > Source: KSMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KSMONTGO ] Coffeyville School lists from December 1877 > > > When searching through the old Coffeyville Journals for > obits I found this list of students on an attendance report > for the High Department of the City schools in the 1st of > December 1877 issue. I am sending this to both Montgomery > County lists so I apologize to those who receive it twice. > > Females > Annie L Brooks > Amie Coffey > Laura E Coffey > Lizzie Coffey > Sallie Counce > Hattie B Currier > Myrtle L Davis > Maggie A Filbert > Lucy Kime > Lillie M Lape > Stella Luck > Julia McLain > Grace Merriman > Emma M Peffer > Mary Potts > Dora Selby > Ella Smith > Lida Songer > > > Males > Martin Bailey > Thomas Blaney > Geo. F Boswell > Alvin Brooks > Jasper Chandler > Battie P Clarkson > Deloss Currier > Charles J Davis > Chas. W Filbert > David C Kime > Wm. Kime > Charlie Knowles > Sam'l O Lewis > Robert McGee > Wm. J McLees > J Sherman Peffer > Lewis Ruhle > Rob. N Selby > Carson Shellady > Irvin O Sterling > Geo. Tallman > Frank Van Horn > Curtis Vaughn > > ******************************** > In the next paper on the 8th of December 1877 this list of > students from the Intermediate Department was published. > > Females > Arvilla Balliet > Hannah Blaney > Samantha Boswell > Tiny Boswell > Sarah Braden > Josie Briley > Tessie Buck > Ellen Chandler > Lulu Coffey > Mary Counce > Amanda Crouch > Maggie Cubine > Lydia Graham > Ella Hayes > Nannie Hess > Mary Holliday > Frankie Isham > Katie Knowles > Ida Lang > May Mayfield > Annie McClees > Lida McClees > Lillie McClees > Grace McLain > Minerva Noyes > Nellie Peffer > Bessie Selby > Ollie Vaughn > Lucinda Wykoff > Mary Wykoff > > > Males > Irvin Balliet > Willie Banks > George Briley > Ned Buck > Henry Carter > Wm. Carter > Claud Cubine > Bertie Currier > Johnny Davis > Harry Dunnett > James Farner > John Fleming > Edwin Godfrey > Willie Haggard > George Hickman > Charlie Hunter > George Hickman > Elmer Kellogg > Harry Kellogg > George Kime > Herman Lang > Willie Lang > Tony Martin > Willie Munn > George Powell > Freddy Skinner > Curtis Smith > Jacob Tallman > Frank Tinges > Willie Vehreman > Charlie Wells > Cresap Whitney > > R.M. Scott, teacher > > Hope someone finds this useful. > > Vivian Brinker >

Don't know if this is new info but I found a marriage date on the IGI microfiche for Sally/Sarah Kime and Edmond/Edward KIRK. They were married 11 June 1834 in Pike Co, IN. This is Sarah, b: 20 February 1816, dau. of Michael Kime and Catherine Lucy Hutchinson.

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Cindy wrote: > > DAUPHIN CO, PENNSYLVANIA CHURCH RECORDS > > To search this database, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4934.htm > If anyone has success finding KEIMs/alternate spellings, I loved to know! Tried every conceivable spelling and found no listings.

Some of you MAY be interested in these records: DAUPHIN CO, PENNSYLVANIA CHURCH RECORDS Dauphin County was created in 1785 from Lancaster County and lies in the central eastern area of Pennsylvania. This database contains records from the following churches, which lie in present-day Dauphin County: --- Salem Reformed Church, Harrisburg, 1800-42 --- Lykens Valley Lower Church (David's Reformed), Killingern, Upper Paxtang, 1774-1844 --- Fetterhoff's Lutheran and Reformed Church (St. Peter's), 1789-98 --- Fredricktown Church, Hummelstown, 1765-68 --- Hoffman Reformed Church, 1782-1800 --- Lykens Valley Lower Church, 1774-1800 --- Middletown Church, 1756-69 --- Paxtang and Derry Churches, Marriages, 1744-1800 --- Reformed Church, Hummelstown, 1796-98 --- St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, 1757-1801 --- Salem Reformed Church, Harrisburg, 1790-1808 --- Shoop's Reformed Church, 1774-1801 --- Wenerich's Reformed Church, 1791-1801 --- Zion Church (Klinger's), 1787-1800 Source Information: Lineages, Inc., comp. "Dauphin County, Pennsylvania Church Records." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original data: Transcribed from LDS Family History Library copies of church records for this locality. For more information, see the Family History Library Catalog (FHLC) for FHL 974.818 K2w. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4934.htm

"Dhawkslady" <dhawkslady@alltel.net> wrote to KEIM: > > How do you find information on what county and state your relatives > are from? I don't know how to get the information on where mine > were located! > Murna, I looked back over your postings and noticed you don't have the birthplace listed for your James Edward Keim, so I assume you're trying to find out where HE was born. There are a couple records that offer clues; have you looked for James's death certificate? You state James died in 1901; many States were filing death certificates by 1900. James's death certificate MAY tell exactly WHERE he was born, and frequently listed on a death certificate will be the names of the deceased's parents. Most states included that information, but the person furnishing the information had to know the answers! If James's parents ARE listed, you have his father and a location where James was born. If their names were NOT listed, you hopefully have a location where James was born and could start looking at censuses to take your line back in time. Since your James was born in 1849, he should be listed on an 1850 census SOMEWHERE, hopefully with his parents! You may have to look at several 1850 census records before you find him, but with the information from his death certificate, your search should be narrowed to a specific locality. WHAT IF THERE IS NO DEATH CERTIFICATE? Following is one example of how we determined WHERE to look for one ancestor who died before death certificates were filed. We had three different sources for our ancestor's birthplace: family hearsay, an obituary, and a pioneer society application. Each told a different county in Indiana. We considered each, thinking about WHO provided the info. Family hearsay seemed a good source; these are ideas/stories passed down possibly from people who lived during the time the ancestor was alive. Obituaries are possible sources; they contain info from someone who usually was knew the deceased quite well. In our case, the pioneer society application was the source that provided the best information. This was the only document we had from a time BEFORE our ancestor died, in fact, this was an application our ancestor himself completed. These were HIS statements, most likely to be accurate. His information told us WHERE to look for his parents. Attempts should be made to find as many different sources as possible, then determine which will be most likely to provide accurate information.

For those researching in MO, a Missouri Death Index is online: URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nettimae/modeaths/

well ....bummer....I guess if you have a primary person, you could get the batch and/or film nuber from the entry you found and go from there....it may help narrow down the search >From: Cindy <ckimes@mvillage.com> >Reply-To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com >To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KEIM] Re: HOW I broke through one "brick wall" >Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 19:02:13 -0500 > >Jeff Reimert wrote: > > > > You can search the online database in the same manner. Especially since >LDS > > as recently redsigned the familysearch.org site. > > The IGI search is here: > > >http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp > > > > Once you select a region, for example North America, you can they select >a > > Country and then a state. You can also search a specific year or range >of > > years. and for specific events. It is very powerful. > > > >Doesn't do what I wanted to do...... I tried, entering just a surname >with a specific region & State. Got this message back: > >If you enter a last name without a first name, then you must either NOT >enter parent or >spouse names, a state, or a year, or you must enter either a batch >number or a film >number. > >Doesn't look like one can find others by the same surname in a specific >State, only in a specific region and the whole U.S. is too large! > > >==== KEIM Mailing List ==== >For KIMES queries on the Kimes Family Genealogy Forum >Go to ---> http://genforum.genealogy.com/kimes/ > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Jeff Reimert wrote: > > You can search the online database in the same manner. Especially since LDS > as recently redsigned the familysearch.org site. > The IGI search is here: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp > > Once you select a region, for example North America, you can they select a > Country and then a state. You can also search a specific year or range of > years. and for specific events. It is very powerful. > Doesn't do what I wanted to do...... I tried, entering just a surname with a specific region & State. Got this message back: If you enter a last name without a first name, then you must either NOT enter parent or spouse names, a state, or a year, or you must enter either a batch number or a film number. Doesn't look like one can find others by the same surname in a specific State, only in a specific region and the whole U.S. is too large!

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Dear Gene, thank you so much for this lead. This may be my D. Jefferson Kimes. He is the right age and in the right place. I will research this out and try to verify this. My heartfelt appreciation. Pam

You can search the online database in the same manner. Especially since LDS as recently redsigned the familysearch.org site. The IGI search is here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp Once you select a region, for example Nort America, you can they select a Country and then a state. You can also searc a specific year or range of years. and for specific events. It is very powerful. Tips for using it online are at: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/searchigi_hints.asp >From: Cindy <ckimes@mvillage.com> >Reply-To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com >To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KEIM] HOW I broke through one "brick wall" >Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:20:53 -0500 > >If you know the State your ancestor lived in, try scanning the IGI >microfiche. I think one of my best "helps" came from the IGI microfiche. >Here's how: > >A second cousin (who I found doing an email search for other by my same >surname) shared Bible records listing the birth of my ancestor. (not >KIMES, but my maiden name) The Bible record listed the birthplace as >Holmes Co, OH, but I also had rec'd a newspaper clipping of this same >ancestor's 50th wedding anniversary writeup; there it said my ancestor >was born in Tuscarawas Co, OH. So I had those two counties to look in, >MAYBE, but for sure, in OHIO. > >Using that info, I looked in the OH section of the IGI microfiche for my >surname. Next, I scanned through the listings, looking for Holmes and >Tuscarawas County and found the marriage record of my ancestor's parents >AND two others that married in the same county at abt. the same time. > >How did this help? I searched the 'net' for mention of the other names >is those listings and found another relative doing research. Now the two >of us are working together to find out more. > >MORAL OF THIS STORY: Two heads are better than one. > >The online LDS info is great, but I've not learned if one can do >scanning in the manner described above using the online site. If so, I'd >like someone to explain that! Anyone? > >Cindy > > >==== KEIM Mailing List ==== >Don't forget to post your Keim queries on the GenConnect Board at: >http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/k/i/KEIM/queries > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

If you know the State your ancestor lived in, try scanning the IGI microfiche. I think one of my best "helps" came from the IGI microfiche. Here's how: A second cousin (who I found doing an email search for other by my same surname) shared Bible records listing the birth of my ancestor. (not KIMES, but my maiden name) The Bible record listed the birthplace as Holmes Co, OH, but I also had rec'd a newspaper clipping of this same ancestor's 50th wedding anniversary writeup; there it said my ancestor was born in Tuscarawas Co, OH. So I had those two counties to look in, MAYBE, but for sure, in OHIO. Using that info, I looked in the OH section of the IGI microfiche for my surname. Next, I scanned through the listings, looking for Holmes and Tuscarawas County and found the marriage record of my ancestor's parents AND two others that married in the same county at abt. the same time. How did this help? I searched the 'net' for mention of the other names is those listings and found another relative doing research. Now the two of us are working together to find out more. MORAL OF THIS STORY: Two heads are better than one. The online LDS info is great, but I've not learned if one can do scanning in the manner described above using the online site. If so, I'd like someone to explain that! Anyone? Cindy

Murna wrote to KEIM: > > I have been watching everyone's responses for a while and I have > noticed that a lot of you have information on what county and state > your relatives are from. How did you find that information? > I don't know how to get the information on where they > were located, or how to get census information? > Does any of you have any ideas, on how to get this info? > Murna, we're not ignoring you..... one could write a book on this. Each person has probably found the info in a different manner. We've had folks list their "brick walls," now perhaps we could ask for folks to tell HOW they broke through their "brick walls!"