My Maternal line goes back to a Lillie Daisy Keim (9/13/1875 near Bethlehem, Northampton Co.,PA-11/23/1948 Easton,NCo.,PA) who m. Herbert Elmer Gradwohl (4/14/1878 Easton,NCo.,PA-7/4/1958 Easton,NCo.,PA). Until this past summer this was all we knew of "Grandma Lillie". Thanks to the folks at the Northampton Co.PA site who posted the 1890 census, we found Lillie D. 14, in Bethlehem Twp. living with Owen M. 42, Catherine 33, Harry F. 11, Lulu M. 9, Birdie C.8, Floyd E. 7, Walter C.6, Elsie M. 5, and Mabel B.3. This prompted a recollection that ,yes, those were Lillie's family members names. Near Owen M. and Catherine lived Alfred L. Keim 38, Emma 32, and Flora 10. My working hunch is that they are related. The other night, weary of sorting Henderson and McClintock notes (Paternal line), I took a break to "cruise the internet". At www.bapl.org/ there is an index for obits of the Bethlehem Globe- Times newspaper. Viola(as my Grandmother used to say)! There is an obit for Owen Milton Keim on 4/9/1914 at pg11,col3 and on 4/14/1914 at pg3,col3 ( I am ordering copies of the actual obit, this is an online index). Lillie D. and Herbert E. lived at 136 McCartney in Easton, and named their children: 1)Carlton Keim (no one talks about him, he apparently commited suicide as a young man), 2) Elmer Adam (1901-1980), 3) Kathryn Priscilla (1903-1985), 4) Lillian May (1914-1994), and 5) William Herbert (living). After the "Owen obits" arrive I will "make time" to search the 1880 census. Any other suggestions on where to look? Any "cousins" willing to acknowledge this branch? Pax, JR Maxwell in Delaware Co.,OH.

Jane Kimes, daughter of George Washington Kimes and Emeline Williamson, married Peter Congrove 30 Apr 1879 in Jackson County, West Virginia. Peter Congrove, son of George W. Congrove and Deborah "Debby" Taggart, was born 1857 in Jackson County, West Virginia. Emaline Kimes, daughter of George Washington Kimes and Emeline Williamson, married David Congrove 29 Aug 1880 in Jackson County, West Virginia. David (1860 - ?) is a brother of Peter Congrove. Michael E. Anthony daath11@msn.com MSN Messenger: daath11 http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/n/t/Michael-E-Anthony/index.html

CSch999930@aol.com wrote: > > There is also a Benneville Kime living in Maxatawny Twp., Berks Co. PA House > # 77, Benneville Kime, age 31, miller, born in PA, Catharine Kime age 32, > born in PA, John 6, Henry 4, James 2, Augustus A. Reber, 23, miller, David > Miller age 23, Angeline Kime, age 14. > Looks like the same family reported to have been in Leesport, Maidencreek Twp, Berks Co, PA in 1860. Descendants of Benneville KEIM 1 Benneville KEIM b: 1819 PA . +Catharine // b: 1818 PA ... 2 John KEIM b: 1845 ... 2 Harry KEIM b: 1846 ... 2 James KEIM b: 1848 ... 2 Hetty KEIM b: 1851 Wonder who Angeline Kime was..... Benneville's sister????

CSch999930@aol.com wrote: > > Benneville Keim living in 1850 Rockland Twp., Berks Co. PA House # 48: > Benneville Keim age 40, farmer $4000, born in PA, Margaret age 29, born in > PA, Hezchiah age 3, male, Susannah age 1, James Reichinger age 17, laborer. > Have we ever had mention of a Benneville m. to a Margaret? This must be yet another Benneville Keim; I can't find a match!

The Jacob KEIMs/KIMEs/KIMESes Name Birth date Birth location KIME, Jacob Bet. 1750 - 1760 PA KEIM, Johannes Jacob 24 January 1756 Berks Co, PA KEIM, Jacob 1769 Berks Co, PA Kimes, Jacob 16 July 1772 near Frederickstown, Frederick Co, MD Keim, Jacob 03 March 1776 Smedley, Chester Co, PA Kimes, Jacob 06 March 1779 Kimes, Jacob Bef. 1783 Keim, Jacob 1784 KIMES, Jacob ca 1786 Keim, Jacob 07 October 1787 Berks Co, PA KEIM, Jacob 08 April 1788 probably Berks Co, PA Keim, Jacob 11 January 1789 Bethlehem Twp, Northampton Co, PA KEIM, Jacob Bef. 1792 KIME, Jacob 1796 Berks Co, PA KEIM, Jacob 01 July 1798 Cambria, Somerset Co, PA Too many Jacobs to sort them out! I give up!!!!!

Virgene Travis writes: The following is info. that I've collected on Jacob Michael SPOUSES: 1 - Barbara Sophia Cover, she d. Oct 1855 2 - Catherine Smith, m. Mar 4, 1858, she d. 1875 1st MARRIAGE: From Marriages of Seneca Co., Ohio 1841-1899 by Jean Seigley, 1994: Kime, Jacob M. to Barbara S. Cover, Mar 13, 1845, by Daniel Kroh, M. G., 2-233. Note: Based on 1850 Census, middle name must be "Sophia". 2nd MARRIAGE: From Iowa Co., Iowa Marriages, Early to 1881, FHL Film 0,988,202 Kime, Jacob M. to Catharine Smith, Vol. B, Page 75, License issued on March 4, 1858 1850 U. S. CENSUS: Hopewell Twp., Seneca Co., Ohio, August 1850, page 304, dwelling 198, family 198: Jacob Kime 38 M farmer 800 b. Va --Sophia 23 F " --Ellen 4 F b. Ohio --[Welty] A. 2 F " --John D. 1/12 M " 1860 U.S. CENSUS: Millersburg P.O., Dayton Twp., Iowa Co., Iowa,11 July 1860 page 572, Dwelling 619: Kime, Jacob 38 b. OH farmer 1800 400 --Catherine 29 b. IL --Ellen 14 b. OH --Wealthee A 12 b. OH --John D. 10 b. OH --Mary N. 8 b. OH --Barbara 5 b. IA (This was Sophia's last child) --Alfred 3 b. IA --Margaret 2 b. IA 1870 U. S. CENSUS: Millersburg, Dayton Twp., Iowa Co., Iowa, 9 Aug 1870, Page 160, dwelling 106, family 113: Kime, Jacob [57] M W farmer 4000 720 b. Va --Catherine 38 F W b. NY --John D. 20 M W b. Ohio --Mary M. 17 F W " --Barbary 14 F W " --Margarett 12 F W b. Iowa --George 10 M W " --Rebecca 8 F W " --William 6 M W " --Joseph 4 M W " --Jacob 1 M W "

Penny, This is from the Burial Records of Rev. D. K. Humbert: Benneville Keim, died in Rockland (twp) last Friday July 11, 1873, son of George and Susanna Keim, b. March 3, 1809 in Pike (Twp), baptized in infancy, confirmed in Evangelical Church, married Rebecca Bear about 25 years ago, 7 children, 3 sons and 4 daughters, 2 daughters still living, age 64-4-8, funeral 7-14-1873 at Lobachsville Church, Text Ps. 39;13 Marriage Record at Falkner Swamp Church, New Hanover twp., Montgomery Co., PA: Bennevill Keim and Rebecca Baer married on Sept. 5, 1847 Burials at St. Paul's Lutheran Church, Lobachsville, Pike Twp., Berks Co. PA: Section 2, Row 12 Benneville Kime husband of Rebecca Kime b. March 3, 1809, died July 11, 1873, age 64-4-8 Rebecca nee Bahr wife of Benneville Kime b. May 3, 1822, died August 11, 1894, age 72-3-8 Benneville Keim living in 1850 Rockland Twp., Berks Co. PA House # 48: Benneville Keim age 40, farmer $4000, born in PA, Margaret age 29, born in PA, Hezchiah age 3, male, Susannah age 1, James Reichinger age 17, laborer. There is also a Benneville Kime living in Maxatawny Twp., Berks Co. PA House # 77, Benneville Kime, age 31, miller, born in PA, Catharine Kime age 32, born in PA, John 6, Henry 4, James 2, Augustus A. Reber, 23, miller, David Miller age 23, Angeline Kime, age 14. Hope this helps you, Chris Schultz

Matches 1 - 2 Name Born Died Cemetery State County More Kime, Emmett W. 1904 1966 Forest Hills NY Wyoming More Info Kime, Florence D. 1911 Forest Hills NY Wyoming More Info http://userdb.rootsweb.com/cemeteries/cgi-bin/cemetery.cgi

Descendants of Jacob Michael KIME 1 Jacob Michael KIME b: 10 September 1819 Jefferson Co, VA .. +Barbary Sophia Cover b: 1828 VA m: 13 March 1845 Seneca Co, OH d: 1855 ....2 Ellen Kime b: ca 1846 OH ....2 Welthy A. KIME b: ca 1848 OH ....2 John D. KIME b: Abt. July 1850 probably Seneca Co, OH *2nd Wife of Jacob Michael KIME: .. +Catherine Smith b: August 1830 m: 04 March 1858 Iowa Co, IA d: 04 December 1875 Iowa Co, IA ....2 Henry J. KIME b: April 1872 d: 12 August 1872 Iowa Co, IA For background on Barbary Sophia Cover and party submitting info see: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=gedfam&ti=0&f0=68217&f1=32

MITZIE2@aol.com wrote: > > how about a William (b. abt 1797 in MD) m. Frances ?? with 8 children > Good thing you mentioned this William Kimes..... looking at his siblings I found another Jacob Kimes that one might want to look at: Jacob KIMES b: ca 1786 m: 30 June 1808 MD Spouse: June Wycoff Children ... Stephen KIMES ... Elizabeth KIMES ... Margaret KIMES ... John L. KIMES I have NO idea WHERE this Jacob was in 1810!!!!!

Subscriber wrote: > > I have a question about these grandsons of Johannes. > > Stophel KEIM b: 28 March 1717 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA > .......Stophel KEIM b: Bef. 1774 > .......Peter Kime b. 1750-1760 (suspected son) Tell me more! Oops! Sorry..... it was Jacob! ....... Jacob Kime b. 1750-1760 (suspected son) There was also a Peter Kimes, b. 1740, that was PROBABLY related to the Chester Co branch; forgot to list him!

My notes seem to indicate that Benneville Keim had children by two women, although I have a different number than Carl refers to. I show Benneville with 4 Children: Johannes b. 1844 d. 1880 m. Amanda Chappel Susan b. 1846 w/ Mother Rebecca Baer Sarah b. 1848 Lydia b. 1850 Does anyone have a marraige date for Benneville and Catharina Mell? Was she first or second, or do I have an incorrect birth date on some of these children? If Carl is correct, then there is another daughter, Emma thrown into the mix here. -And perhaps a son, Jeseriah? Who is researching this line that may have some answers? Penny

MITZIE2@aol.com wrote: > > RE: Father of John Kimes, b. 1809 > > (Reading in Part) > Samuel Kimes s/o Jacob (1772-1850) and Margaret Kimes > The mystery on this Jacob m. to Margaret is that Don has found NO records for him after 1830! > Could this be Samuel (b. abt 1800 OH) m. possibly to Sophia Hovey 11, May, > 1826 Meigs Co., OH I don't have any information to say Samuel was NOT one of Jacob's sons! > and how about a William (b. abt 1797 in MD) m. Frances ?? with 8 children > William Kimes that married Frances Harrison was the son of the Jacob KIME that moved to Bourbon and Nicholas Cos in KY. AND, this Jacob was m. to Elizabeth Hayes and Catharine Thompson and died 1839.

RE; Subj: (KEIM) Father of John Kimes, b. 1809 Date: 11/25/2000 6:32:34 PM (Reading in Part) Samuel Kimes s/o Jacob (1772-1850) and Margaret Kimes Could this be Samuel (b. abt 1800 OH) m. possibly to Sophia Hovey 11, May, 1826 Meigs Co., OH and how about a William (b. abt 1797 in MD) m. Frances ?? with 8 children These two Kimes' are "Brick walls" for me. Mitzie

Several KIME references in Lincoln Co., KS. Search at the following website.... http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/lincoln/index.html

Some of you in Johannes KEIM's branch are researching the earlier generations in Berks Co - the ones b. in the 1700's. In an effort to following up on the sons and grandsons of Johannes, we'll list each of Johannes's sons and the males in their families. Sons and Grandsons of Johannes (Hans) Keim: Johannes Keim b: 04 March 1711 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA .......Johannes KEIM b: Bef. 1736 Philadelphia Co, PA .......Conrad Keim b: ca 1739 .......Johan Peter KEIM b: Bet. 1736 - 1745 Oley, PA .......Hans George KEIM b: 13 December 1753 Stophel KEIM b: 28 March 1717 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA .......Stophel KEIM b: Bef. 1774 .......Peter Kime b. 1750-1760 (suspected son) Hans Nickel KEIM b: 02 April 1719 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA .......John KEIM b: 06 July 1749 Oley Valley, Philadelphia Co, PA Jacob Keim b: 24 October 1724 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA .......Johannes Jacob KEIM b: 24 January 1756 Berks Co, PA with 2nd Wife: Heinrich Keim b: 27 April 1732 Oley, PA .......Conrad Kimes b: 1763 near Frederickstown, Frederick Co, MD .......Jacob Kimes b: 16 July 1772 near Frederickstown, MD .......Valentine KIMES, Sr b: 07 July 1775 near Frederickstown, MD .......Abraham KIMES b: 1779 Loudon Co, VA .......Johann Heinrich Kime b: Bef. 18 June 1784 probably Loudon Co, VA George KEIM b: ca August 1733 Oley Valley, PA .......Heinrich KEIM b: 12 April 1764 .......Samuel Henry Keim b: 20 December 1769 .......John Keim b: ca 1770 .......George Musselman KEIM b: 10 April 1776 Conrad Keim b: 03 December 1734 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA .......Johannes Keim b: 03 May 1758 Berks Co, PA .......George KEIM .......Jofie KEIM b: 26 May 1764 d: young .......(Johann) Conrad Keim b: 26 May 1764 Berks Co, PA .......John Christian Kime b: 27 May 1769 Oley, Berks Co, PA Above are the sons and grandsons that have been identified so far. Others found, but not yet identified: Keim, William 07 April 1754 KEIM, Heironymus Bet. 1730 - 1747 KEIM, Johannes ca 1737 Keim, Elias ca 1758 KEIM, Benjamin Bef. 1760 Keim, John Bef. 09 January 1761 Keim, Johannes H. 1763 Keim, Daniel M. Bef. 1764 Keim, Peter Bef. 1764

Hi all, Has anyone tried this search before: http://www.berksregofwills.com/search/berksmar1.shtml also: http://www.pac-info.com Dora

Double Dates reference, for the changing of our Calendar. Generally from the earlier Julian and associated calendars to the present Gregorian Calendar. There is a lot of information at the enclosed sight: http://www.genfair.com/dates.htm Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <ckimes@mvillage.com> To: <KEIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 9:15 PM Subject: [KEIM] Birth calculations > Can someone explain what the "double dates" refers to?

Cindy wrote: > > Reference Don's findings in Meigs Co, OH, do concerned parties agree > that: > > 1. IF John Kimes (b. 1809) was born in OH, > THEN Jacob Kimes, living in Athens Co, OH (1810) must have been his > father? > (There were no other KIMESes/KIMEs/KEIMs in OH in 1810!) > > 2. IF this same Jacob was the spouse of Margaret (of pitchfork fame!) > THEN Thomas Kimes (b. 1804) was a brother to John, and we should find > Jacob in VA before 1804. > (Thomas Kimes is said to have been born in VA.) > > So which Jacob Kimes was in VA before 1804? Who he is, IF we continue > with this, there were living in Berkeley Co, VA in 1800. Today, Berkeley Co is in WV, but it used to be in VA. It was formed from Frederick Co in 1772.

Reference Don's findings in Meigs Co, OH, do concerned parties agree that: 1. IF John Kimes (b. 1809) was born in OH, THEN Jacob Kimes, living in Athens Co, OH (1810) must have been his father? (There were no other KIMESes/KIMEs/KEIMs in OH in 1810!) 2. IF this same Jacob was the spouse of Margaret (of pitchfork fame!) THEN Thomas Kimes (b. 1804) was a brother to John, and we should find Jacob in VA before 1804. (Thomas Kimes is said to have been born in VA.) So which Jacob Kimes was in VA before 1804? Who he is, IF we continue with this theorizing, Jacob's descendants would be: 1 Jacob Kimes b: 16 July 1772 near Frederickstown, Frederick Co, MD d: 1850 . +Margaret // m: Bef. 1825 ... 2 Thomas Kimes b: 1804 VA ...... +Eliza Shumway b: 11 July 1807 North East Town, Dutchess Co, NY m: 24 May 1829 Meigs Co, OH ........3 Matilda Kimes b: 1830 Meigs Co, OH ........... +John J. White m: 05 November 1863 Meigs Co, OH ........3 Bial KIMES b: 1832 Meigs Co, OH ........... +Margaret Belle GILDART m: 28 November 1852 Meigs Co, OH ... 2 John Kimes b: 1809 OH ...... +Elizabeth Willbarger b: 1810 VA m: 18 December 1828 Meigs Co, OH ........3 Lucinda KIMES b: 1830 Meigs Co, OH ........... +Edwin Larkins m: 17 July 1862 Meigs Co, OH ........3 Washington KIMES b: 1831 Meigs Co, OH d: 1908 ........... +Nancy Jane FURGUSON b: 1836 PA m: 13 April 1854 Meigs Co, OH d: 1902 ........3 John KIMES b: 1835 Meigs Co, OH d: 1905 ........3 Jacob D. Kimes b: 1836 Meigs Co, OH d: 16 May 1894 Reedsville, Meigs Co, OH ........... +Valencia Rice m: 12 February 1868 Meigs Co, OH ........3 James Kimes b: 1838 Meigs Co, OH d: 06 December 1904 ........... +Catherine Parsons m: 29 October 1857 Meigs Co, OH ........3 David KIMES b: 1841 Meigs Co, OH d: 10 April 1853 ........3 Matilda KIMES b: 1843 Meigs Co, OH ........... +Jackson Howett b: 1842 m: 04 June 1868 Meigs Co, OH ... 2 Samuel Kimes