Forwarded from TNMARSHA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: 1920 Marshall Co cens index part 38 (Final part) ED 108 P 5A WELLS, Howard HASTINGS, Cecil OGILVIE, R. C. REYNOLDS, Delia HASTINGS, H. E. KIMES, S. Ed. HART, B. F. Sr. BLACKWELL, J. A. McCORD, Zekins PYLAND, Lee HUNTER, Geo. w. BROWN, A. L. JOHNSON, Puss SMITH, O. Walter LANE, D. B. HASTINGS, Grady KEITH, N. O.

Barbara Clougherty wrote on Kime Family Genealogy Forum, July 16, 2000: > > My greatgrandfather is William Conrad > Kime/Keim. He was born in 1848 somewhere near Indiana Co, PA. He had a > brother Thomas, as well as, other siblings. Their parents were John > Michael and Susan Fleck/Flick Keim/Kime. > I think John was born in Germany and Susan was from around Bellefonte, > PA. _____________________ Bobbi has already shared that HER ancestors were John Michael and Susan (Fleck/Flick) KEIM/KIME. Barbara must be from the same branch. Their ancestry MIGHT be as follows: Keim Descendants (possibly William Keim, if William Jr. was his son) 1 unknown Keim . 2 William Keim b: probably Wüerttemberg, Germany (there was a William Keim, Jr. d: 07 May 1902 Indiana Co, PA) . 2 John Michael Keim b: probably Wüerttemberg, Germany d: Cookport, Indiana Co, PA ..... +// m: Bef. 1845 probably Wüerttemberg, Germany ..... 3 Katherine Keim b: probably Wüerttemberg, Germany ......... +// Hawk . *2nd Wife of John Michael Keim: ..... +Susan Fleck b: probably near Bellefonte, Centre Co, PA m: Bef. 1846 d: Cookport, Indiana Co, PA ..... 3 // Keim b: Bef. 1846 ..... 3 Louisa Keim b: Bef. 1847 PA ......... +James Wentzel ..... 3 Thomas Keim b: PA ..... 3 William Conrad Keim b: 1848 Indiana Co, PA d: 04 December 1900 Indiana Co, PA ......... +Letitia Ellen Deemer m: 14 August 1876 Indiana, PA ..... 3 Emeline Keim b: Bef. 1850 PA d: 1912 ......... +William Harrison Smith d: 1926 ..... 3 Amelia Ann Keim b: 22 March 1854 PA ......... +Israel LEARN m: 13 May 1869 ..... 3 Frederick Keim b: Bef. 1851 PA ..... 3 Edward Keim b: Bef. 1852 PA ..... 3 Hannalia Keim b: Bef. 1853 PA ..... 3 Jane Keim b: Bef. 1854 PA ......... +David Alsinas REED m: 1879 . 2 Frederick Keim b: probably Wüerttemberg, Germany _____________________ Also Ron Kime listed his ancestors on Kime Family Genealogy Forum. (see http://www.genforum.geneology.com/kime/messages/4.html) Could his John Thomas Keim, be the bro. to William Conrad Keim? And, Murna has a James Edward Keim, b. 20 April 1849.... could that be the Edward Keim, bro. to William and Thomas listed above? Murna's James Edward had children named: James Thomas, William Earl, and Hannable; the latter being very close to the "Hannalia" listed above. AND, Murna's folks were in Indiana Co, too! Seems the 1850 census info would "shed some light" on this! Has anyone found John Michael Keim's family on the 1850 federal census?

In the second paragraph phrase "thought better of it" is confusing and should be changed so that the sentence reads: As a young, single man he became partners with another man who planned to start schools in parts of Missouri, and Tennessee but changed his mind when he got to know the dishonest man better. Susan

Let me try this again... > I have been away from the list for awhile, but I have a new mission...I just > discovered an old photo that I wanted to research because the woman looks so > much like my daughter. Turns out, she was my Great Aunt. I apparently > posted info on her back in 1998, (even though I don't remember!), but I > would like to know more about her and her descendants. She was: Barbara > Aletha KEIM b. 3-11-1906 d. 8-25-1983 m. (1) Harry ERNSBERGER and had the > following children: Donald, Harry Jr. and Betty Romaine. The picture I > have is of Barbara and Harry. The resemblence to my daughter is uncanny and > I would love to "hook up" with some of her family. Thanks!

Was searching archives the other day.....found this: In 1999, Wilma wrote: <<Not my line, but thought I would pass it along. This is from Reel XCH 420 - Christ Evangelical Church. This church was right on the borderline and was usually listed as being in Northhampton County, PA. The heading of this page is "Christ Lutheran & Reformed Church - originally Zion Lutheran and Reformed Church". Children with parents listed as Johannes and Elizabeth KEIM: Mathaus KEIM, born 21 Nov 1785, baptised 29 Jul 1786 by Rev. Fredrich Ernst, Sponsors Mathaus and Barbara Hummel. Elizabeth KEIM, born 13 Jul 1787, baptised 6 Sep 1787 by Rev. Fredrich Ernst, Sponsor Elizabeth Huber (single woman) Wilhelm Heinrich KEIM, born 3 Feb 1792, baptised 18 Mar 1292 by Rev. G.J.Wichtermann Parents Elizabeth (Kles) KEIM and Johannes KEIM Sponsors Wilhelm Heinrich Hummel (Mathaus Hummel's Unmarried Son) and Christina Kles (Unmarried) The above parentheses were copied as written from the original. Children with parents listed as Jacob and Christina KEIM: KEIM, Andreas b. 7 May 1817, baptised 21 Jun 1817 Sponsors Andreas & Susanna Oberly. KEIM, Nathan b. 14 Jan 1819, baptised 21 Feb 1819 Sponsors Jacob & Elizabeth Frey KEIM, David b. 15 Jan 1821, baptised 18 Feb 1821 Sponsors Joseph & Catherina Kleis >>> Seems that there is another sibling, Nathan! And that Andrew was christened Andreas. I find Christina Kles interesting also! Lots here to chew on! So many are buried in Schoenersville or Shoenersville, I wonder if there is a family plot? There was much discussion a while ago about that town. Is anyone familar with this church or their cemetery? Thank you Wilma for posting what you found, even if not your line! Penny

Hi! Cindy sent a time line for Jacob and Anna Maria Keim's family, asking us to check out the details. 1) I found several references in my files that say Jacob Keim was born 10 April 1764, rather than 1763. However, his tombstone says he died 17 March 1855 at age 91 y, 11 m, 7 d. This would make his birthyear 1763. 2) His son Isaac is listed as born 16 June 1801. Again with tombstone data (which can be wrong!) he died July 8, 1877 age 76 y, 1 m, 22 d. This gives us a birth of May 16, 1801. 3) Information on marriage dates really varied in the data I have in my files for Sarah Kime and John Schall & Elizabeth Kime and David Schall. One piece of info suggested that John married both Sarah and Elizabeth. So if anyone has more accurate documentation, please share it with the group. 4) Lastly Catherine Kime married a Mr. Gardner. Seems his name may have been John. All the other information seems to agree with the data that has been shared by everyone doing research on this line of the family. Nola in Indiana

Mention of Abraham Custer in the bio Susan wrote on Valentine Kimes, Sr. reminded me of another Abraham Custer. This Abraham Custer connects to the other Valentine KIME, of Maiden Creek Twp. in Berks Co. PA. Descendants of Abraham Custer 1 ( ? ) Abraham Custer . 2 Jacob CUSTER b: 1790 ..... +Mary KIME b: 06 November 1793 Berks Co, PA ..... 3 Hannah Custer ......... +Williams Merchant m: Bef. 1832 ..... *2nd Husband of Hannah Custer: ......... +David Hays m: Abt. 1832 ......... 4 Samuel Hays ......... 4 Joseph Hays ......... 4 Rebecca Hays b: Abt. 1832 ..... *3rd Husband of Hannah Custer: ......... +James Wilson Hannah m: 11 February 1845 Sullivan Co, MO ......... 4 Mary Rachel Hannah b: Aft. 1845 ......... 4 Lincoln Edgar Jacob Hannah b: Aft. 1845 ......... 4 Alonzo Sylvester Custer Hannah b: Aft. 1845 ......... 4 Albertine Isabelle Custer Hannah b: Aft. 1845 ......... 4 Limric William Wilson Hannah b: Aft. 1845 ..... 3 Roseanna Custer b: Abt. 1824 ..... 3 Jacob Custer b: Abt. 1832 ..... 3 Lydia Custer b: Abt. 1834 ..... 3 Lucinda Custer b: Abt. 1835 The Mary Kime listed above was Valentine's granddaughter, and from his branch that located in Berkeley Co, VA where many of her siblings were married. Another similarity between these two families is that some of these descendants settled in Missouri, too! Probably just a coincidence, but could this Abraham Custer also have been Mary Elizabeth Custer's father? Anyone have access to Ancestry.com's census data? Wonder how many Abraham CUSTERs were listed on the 1790 census?

Dear Susan Just a note, There was no town of Piedmont until 1856. Piedmont was incorporated in 1856, There was a villiage of Danielville here where Piedmont is now located. I once saw a newpaper clipping that was dated 1856 that said Mary Elizabeth was buried in Piedmont, But think that was an error. Gene Kimes

Did anyone note any errors and/or omissions on this timeline previously posted to this list in Dec. 2000? There was no feedback at that time.... everyone was busy making holiday plans, so we'll post this again! __________________ A timeline on Jacob Keim: 10 April 1763 - Jacob Keim, b: Berne, Berks Co, PA 23 November 1790 - Jacob, m. Anna Maria in Exeter Twp, Berks Co, PA 22 July 1791 - son, Samuel, b: Berks Co, PA 05 October 1792 - son, John, b: Berks Co, PA 06 November 1793 - son, George, b: Berks Co, PA 06 November 1793 - dau. Mary, b: Berks Co, PA 30 November 1795 - dau. Sarah, b: Berks Co, PA 30 November 1795 - son William, b: Berks Co, PA 03 August 1797 - dau. Elizabeth, b: Berks Co, PA 16 October 1799 - son Daniel, b: Berks Co, PA 16 October 1799 - son Jacob, b: Berks Co, PA 16 June 1801 - son Isaac, b: Berks Co, PA 05 September 1802 - son Benjamin H., b: Berks Co, PA 19 May 1804 - son David, b: Berks Co, PA 05 July 1806 - son Elias, b: Berks Co, PA 16 April 1810 - dau. Catherine, b: Berks Co, PA? or Jefferson Co, VA? 26 March 1812 - Sarah KIME m. Johannes B. SHAULL/SCHALL in Berkeley Co, VA (now Jefferson Co, WV) 03 October 1816 - John KIME m. Margetha Margarete SHAULL in Middleway, Berkeley Co, VA (now Jefferson Co, WV) 13 October 1816 - Elizabeth KIME m. David Schall in Berkeley Co, VA (now Jefferson Co, WV) 25 January 1820 - Samuel Kime m. Caty E. CUSTER in Berkeley Co, VA 01 February 1821 - Daniel KIME m. Rosanna McConnell in Jefferson Co, VA 12 July 1824 - David Kime m. Rachel Weaver in Frederick Co, VA ? Anna Maria (Hähn) died 18 December 1827 - Jacob m. 2nd wife, Euphemia Hodges, Jefferson Co, VA 17 March 1855 - Jacob died in Middleway, Jefferson Co, WV Other marriages for Jacob and Anna Maria's children: Mary KIME + Jacob CUSTER William KIME + Margaret Mouser Jacob KIME + Nancy ? Isaac Kime + Elizabeth Hayes Benjamin H. KIME + Mary E. BAUGHMAN Elias KIME + Phebe ? Catherine KIME + ? GARDNER

Looking at the biographical information at: http://genforum.genealogy.com/tribble/messages/278.html Down toward the bottom it states, "The father was of German descent, born in Virginia in 1811, and when fifteen went to Overton County, Tenn., where the father died." WHO went to Overton County, Tenn? WHO died in Overton County, Tenn? WHO was fifteen when the family went to Overton County, Tenn? Or are these inaccurate statements?

From: Cherokee Nation Queries http://www.tngenweb.org/tnfirst/cke6-00.htm My father always said his mother's people were Cherokee from the Smokey Mountains. I am looking for parents of Margaret YATES (B: 15 Nov 1829 in TN; D: 28 Mar 1899 in IL, her parents were both also born in TN) Md: James H. DICKSON, 4 Mar 1848 in Squire A. KIMES residence by Squire KIMES, somewhere in TN.

The Goodspeed History has some errors regarding Valentine Kimes, Sr. in the Francis M. Kimes bio. Here is what I have been able to put together on Valentine Kimes, Sr. VALENTINE KIMES, SR. was born the 7th of July, 1775 in Frederick County, Maryland to Heinrich Keim (changed name to Henry Kime) and Anna Catarina "Catharina" Reber. He was christened the 4th of September, 1775 in the Frederick Evangelical Lutheran Church of Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland. It is believed his grandfather was Johannes Keim of Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, an immigrant from Germany. In about 1777 Valentine, Sr. moved with his parents to a German settlement called Morgantown in Loudoun County, Virginia near the border of Fauquier County, Virginia. They moved to Rockbridge County, Virginia in 1789 and on to Bath County, Virginia in 1791 where his parents lived the rest of their lives. Valentine married MARY ELIZABETH CUSTER the 12th of November, 1798 in Botetourt County, Virginia. She was born the 26th of November, 1780 in Maryland to Abraham Custer and Mary Maria _______ . Mary Elizabeth moved with her parents to Virginia where she met and married Valentine. The older Germans in the Ozarks pronounced Valentine as Valenteen except it sounded like Velty or Felty. It is spelled Felty on the marriage certificate. He signed his name with an "X." Apparently he did not know how to read or write at the time of his marriage. Valentine recorded a deed in 1794 in Bath County, Virginia. The 7th of June 1798 he was given power of attorney by his parents and then the 3rd of July, 1798 he conveyed a tract of land in Rockbridge County, Virginia to William Cooper for his parents. His father had purchased this tract from Edward Branch. Valentine’s and Elizabeth’s first child, Abigail, was born in Virginia in 1799. Mary was born in 1801 in Bath County, Virginia and Abraham was born in 1802 in Virginia. The 18th of October, 1804 Valentine and Elizabeth recorded a deed for 37 acres of land in Bath County, Virginia. This was part of a 160 acre tract adjoining the Adam Given property on the south. Valentine and his family must have moved to Franklin County, Virginia from Bath County between 1805 and 1810. The 7th of January, 1805 Henry Smith, his wife Polly and William Chitwood of Franklin County, Virginia deeded 97 acres to Valentine Kimes of Franklin County. But, their fourth child, Hiram Kimes was born in Bath County in 1807. They were living in Franklin County the 17th of April, 1811 when their fifth child, Valentine, Jr., was born. In the fall of 1811, when Valentine, Jr. was six months old, the family moved to the north fork of the Holston River in Washington County, Virginia. Valentine and Elizabeth transferred 97 acres on the north side of Blackwater River in Franklin County to Pleasant Blankenship the 14th of November, 1811. Their last three children: David, Lavina, and Hannah were born in Washington County, Virginia in 1814, 1823, and 1825 respectively. Elizabeth was one of the early members of the Methodist Church, joining in 1807. Valentine, Jr. said his mother would "get happy at meeting and shout." Valentine, Sr. and Elizabeth held family prayer in their home. Valentine, Sr. and his son, Valentine, Jr. went to Overton County, Tennessee in 1826. It is not clear if the entire family moved here then or if father and son went for a visit. Valentine, Sr.’s half-brother, Conrad Keim was already living in Lincoln County, Tennessee. Abraham, Valentine Sr.’s third child married and raised his family in Overton County, Tennessee. It seems that the Kimes family did move to Overton, Tennessee sometime between 1825 and 1831. In 1831 Valentine, Sr. moved his family including most of his grown children and their respective families to the Virginia settlement on Clarke’s Creek in Wayne County, Missouri. His son, Abraham Kimes remained in Overton County where the first of his fourteen children was born in 1831. Some slaves accompanied the family on the move to Missouri. They were in Piedmont, Wayne County, Missouri in 1831. Valentine, Sr. and Elizabeth lived in Wayne County, Missouri the rest of their lives. "Volentine Kimes, Sr." of Wayne County, Missouri received a patent for 40 acres the 10th of April, 1843. He died between 1843 and 1850 in Wayne County, Missouri and is buried in the English Cemetery, County Rd. N. two miles north of Patterson, Wayne County, Missouri on Clarke’s Creek right across the road from the "Old Virginia Settlement." Elizabeth died the 11th of January, 1856 in Piedmont, Wayne County, Missouri and is buried next to Valentine in the English Cemetery outside of Patterson, Wayne County, Missouri. The slaves who died before Valentine, Sr. have tombstones on their graves although Valentine and Mary Elizabeth’s graves do not. Valentine and Mary Elizabeth had eight children. Sources and footnotes for this bio: 1. All information on Valentine Kimes, Sr. was taken from the personal journal of Valentine Kimes, Jr. and from a letter and family group sheet from Fred Eggleston, Alexandria, VA dated August 3, 1984 to Virginia Pierce unless otherwise noted. 2. Sources quoted by Fred Eggleston on the Family Group Sheet for Heinrich Keim: Bath County, Virginia Wills, 1:229-231, 237-238, 111; Deeds 1:10, 12, 14, 157, 2:18, 44, 46; 3:34, 93; 4:68, Court Order 1:372, 525, 544; Personal Property Tax, Rockbridge County, VA., Deeds C541, 549, 551, 588, 591; Court Orders, 1795-1700, 397, Personal Property Tax Franklin Co., VA. Deeds 5:42, 6:152, 225. IGI Virginia & Maryland. National Archives, Revolutionary Genealogist 23:178 (1979)11:182 (1978) Bath County, Virginia. Bath County, Virginia. 3. Baptismal records of the Monocacy Lutheran Congregation and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Frederick, Maryland, page 81. 4. It has been pretty well established that her name is Custer. On page 27 of "Early Marriages, wills, some Revolutionary War Records" compiled by Anne Lowry Worrell, she shows Elizabeth’s last name spelled Custen, as well as Abraham’s last name as Custen. She shows the marriage date as Nov. 10, 1798. Virginia Pierce had a photocopy of the marriage bond. The writing is flowery and hard to read, but the names look more like Custer than Custen. The date is definitely 12. Virginia Pierce has a letter from J. Francis Amos, M.D. of the Carilion Family Medicine of Rocky Mount, Virginia, in which he states that "the Custer family is a well-known family in western Franklin County (Virginia) and we did have a migration from Franklin County in the 1830’s to Missouri." 5. From Dolores M. Johnson Gucciardo of Little Rock, AR: 1791-1799 Botetourt Marriage Records Vo. 3-p430: Felty Kimes & Elizabeth Custard 12 Nov. 1798. Sur: Abraham Custard (sig. Custer) Wit: William Hite. Min Ret - Felty Kimes & Elizabeth Custard md. 15 Nov. 1798 by Samuel Gray - (Summers; Kimes, Worrel 1 Nov. 10; Custer) 6. Personal Journal of Valentine Kimes, Jr. written by Valentine Kimes, Jr. 7. 1820 census records for VA lists a Voluntine Kimes in Washington Co, VA. He is listed on pg 215 A of the census. 8. The Goodspeed Biographical and Historical Memoirs of Northwest Arkansas, c. 1889, about Francis M. Kimes. 9. There is a land patent for a Volentine Kimes, Sr. of Wayne County, Missouri dated the 10th of April, 1843 for 40 acres located in the South East ¼ of the North East ¼ of Section 11 in Township 29 North, of Range 4 East, in the District of Sands subject to sale at, Jackson, Missouri. Bureau of Land Management Certificate No. 7775, accession/serial #: MO3520__.332. This is probably Valentine Kimes, Sr. and a clerk misspelled his name. 10. He is in the 1840 census for Jefferson Township, Wayne County, Missouri but not the 1850 census. 11. Gene Kimes of Piedmont, Missouri in a phone conversation with Virginia Pierce Jan. 15, 1999. He found the cemetery. He also found the homestead of Conrad Kimes, brother of Valentine, in Tennessee. The local story is that three brothers settled there for awhile - Valentine, Conrad, and one other. Susan

WEST VIRGINIA MARRIAGE RECORDS, 1863-1900 http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4484.htm Free to search until 02/10/2001

Harold Davey wrote: > > See below: > > Way back..... Harold Davey wrote: > > > > Philip KIME was born about 1730. He died after 1805. > > He was buried in Old Brick Church, Guilford, NC. > > > > William Keim/Kime of Alamance Co, NC, great-grandson of > > Philip KIME, had a German Bible which was the property > > of his grandfather, Philip Kime. > > > > Who knows birthdates for the above KIMEs and can complete the lineage > below? > > Direct Descendants of Philip KIME > > 1 Philip KIME, b: abt 1730 in GER > > 2 Philip Kime, b: 9 May 1762 > > ....... 3 Henry Kime, b: 15 Feb 1810 > > ........... 4 William Miles Kime of Alamance Co, NC, b: 12 March > 1832, Guilford, NC > Okay, so Philip Kime, b: 9 May 1762, was the original owner of the Bible with the inscription "John Michel Kime bought this bible in the month of December 1783." We have to wonder what the relationship was between John Michel Kime and Philip, b. 1762. And do the descendants of Philip KIME's branch think that the other inscription "My daughter, Anna Margaretta, was born in 1765 in Philadelphia, Pa." was referring to John Michel's daughter?

Thanks, Cindy! Diana My Email address is changing to ddavis59@sc.rr.com Website: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/

Some of you have mentioned ancestors in Northumberland Co, PA. Possibly you might find add'l info in this database now free to search on Ancestry. Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, 1851-92: Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5395.htm Free Until 02/12/2001

Ancestry currently has the "Missouri Marriages, 1851-1900" database in the FREE section. One hit for KIME Two for KEIM To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4474.htm

Diana Davis wrote: > > Does anyone have a good Web site to look up towns and what counties they're in??? > 1895 U.S. Atlas site http://www.livgenmi.com/1895 The above site is searchable by town, county, and/or state, and is especially good for finding places no longer in existence. These are good, too: http://tiger.census.gov/ http://www.mit.edu:8001/geo http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html

Does anyone have a good Web site to look up towns and what counties they're in??? Diana My Email address is changing to ddavis59@sc.rr.com Website: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/

See below: Harold Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:49:15 -0500 From: Cindy <ckimes@mvillage.com> Way back..... Harold Davey wrote: > > Philip KIME was born about 1730. He died after 1805. > He was buried in Old Brick Church, Guilford, NC. > > William Keim/Kime of Alamance Co, NC, great-grandson of > Philip KIME, had a German Bible which was the property > of his grandfather, Philip Kime. > Who knows birthdates for the above KIMEs and can complete the lineage below? Direct Descendants of Philip KIME 1 Philip KIME, b: abt 1730 in GER 2 Philip Kime, b: 9 May 1762 ....... 3 Henry Kime, b: 15 Feb 1810 ........... 4 William Miles Kime of Alamance Co, NC, b: 12 March 1832, Guilford, NC