Regarding the lineage and birthdates provided by Harold Davey I have confirmed all dates, except the first Philip Kime, by direct reading of the tombstones at Richland Lutheran Church Cemetery. The dates of death are: 2. April 29, 1836; 3. January 27, 1874 and 4. October 13, 1909. I have found no documented sources regarding the dates for the birth or death of Philip Kime who was reportedly born about 1730. I have searched the records of the Brick Church as translated by the Rev. D. I. Offman and transcribed by Calvin Hinshaw. I have copied and transcribed a court record that indicates a Philip Kime was naturalized in 1763. I quote this record below: QUOTE Naturalization Proceedings of Salisbury Superior Court Sept 22 1763 NC Archive Microfilm Call Number C. 207. 3001 "This day came into Open [Court] the following persons Natives of Germany and was Naturalized according to Law by taking the oaths appointed for That purpose and received Certificates for the same Witnessed by the Clk of Same to wit," The Honorable Mason[?] Moore Esq. Assistant Judge presided. Guilford County Residents within the list of 47 people naturalized included the following. George Cobell; Andrew Rudolph; John Nott; Adam Smith; Conrad Lowe; Malikiah Fogelman; Fredreck Smith; Jacob Cobel; Jacob Hamble[hambell]; PHILIP KIME; Adam Moser; Jacob Boon; David Spike; George Valentine Clapp; Adam Cobel; Joseph Stailey; Frederick Brown; Malekiah Isely and Henry Gardner. UNQUOTE Based on this court record it is likely that Philip Kime was born in Germany. Of course it is possible that these people or their ancestors had been previously naturalized but they lacked proof and wished to establish proof of their allegiance to the British Crown. However, if Philip Kime had been descended from the well-established KEIM family in Pennsylvania I think he would have and could have obtained adequate proof of that fact. Therefore, it is most likely that PHILIP KIME was born in Germany or enroute to North America from Germany. Bill Doyle -----Original Message----- From: Harold Davey [mailto:hdavey@home.com] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:13 AM To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KEIM] Philip Kime's descendants See below: Harold Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:49:15 -0500 From: Cindy <ckimes@mvillage.com> Way back..... Harold Davey wrote: > > Philip KIME was born about 1730. He died after 1805. > He was buried in Old Brick Church, Guilford, NC. > > William Keim/Kime of Alamance Co, NC, great-grandson of > Philip KIME, had a German Bible which was the property > of his grandfather, Philip Kime. > Who knows birthdates for the above KIMEs and can complete the lineage below? Direct Descendants of Philip KIME 1 Philip KIME, b: abt 1730 in GER 2 Philip Kime, b: 9 May 1762 ....... 3 Henry Kime, b: 15 Feb 1810 ........... 4 William Miles Kime of Alamance Co, NC, b: 12 March 1832, Guilford, NC ______________________________

Still struggling with my elusive Kime line. Amanda Kime b.Feb.28, 1833 Berks co.,PA daughter of John & Mary (Heffner) Kime. Amanda married George Kauffman in 1852 in Berks, in 1853 they moved to Stark co.,OH and in 1857 onto Wayne co.,OH. No nothing of Amanda's parents. Chuck

Jeff, sorry it took me so long to reply to your email. I have lost my reference to George Keim m Elizabeth Geiger. I just recently received it - we just moved and I'm not organized yet. However, I also have this George m Catherine Schenkel 11 Apr 1774 Springfield, Philadelphia, PA. I will email more info when I get organized again. Thanks for your input. Jan Keim hankjan@mstar2.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Reimert" <Jeff@Reimert.org> To: <KEIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:30 AM Subject: RE: [KEIM] Keim generations > Jan: > > What is your source data for Samuel Henry Keim's mother being Elizabeth > Geiger? I have not been able to find a reliable source for the marriage > order, but have noted in my database: > > "George had 2 wives: Elizabeth GHEER/GIER/GEIR/GEIGER and Elizabeth > MUSSELMAN. It is not known in which order that they were married, or who > had which children. > > We can presume that George was married to Elizabeth Musselman bef 1776 > (There was a George Musselman KEIM b. in 1776). > My thought on the order of marriage is that George Married Elizabeth > Musselman 1st and Elizabeth GHEER 2nd. My reasoning is this: > > George receives the KEIM homestead in 1762. He leaves the estate to his > wife Elizabeth when he dies aft. 6/1807. The KEIM burial plot where > Johannes (b 1675) is buried is noted as being on the GHEER farm in 1894." > > Also, Bollerin is feminine in German for Boller > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Keim [mailto:hankjan@mstar2.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:38 PM > To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KEIM] Keim generations > > > Here is my husband's Keim line: > > His grandfather - Ira Otto Keim - b: 1877 - d: 1967 Indiana > s/o Constantine Schular Keim - b: 1843 PA - d: 1927 Indiana > s/o Samuel Keim - b: 1810 PA - d: 1875 Indiana > s/o Samuel Henry Keim - b: 1769 PA - d: 1843 PA > s/o George Keim - b: 1733 PA - 1st wife Elizabeth Geiger > s/o Johannes Hans Keim - b: 1675 Germany - d: 1753 PA > 2nd wife Mary Elizabeth Bollerin > s/o Johann Keim - b: 1647 Germany > s/o Ludwig Hercourt Keim > > Jan Keim > hankjan@mstart2.net > > > ==== KEIM Mailing List ==== > Perhaps the best place to start your search..... > Surname Resources at: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/ > > > ==== KEIM Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check the KEIM FAMILY HOMEPAGE for additional links. > The URL is <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~edwards/keim.html> > >

BOJANOWSKI wrote: > > Sylvester Kimes b. 1832 in Meigs Co., OH; d. 1904 in > Streator, IL > He was the son of Elias Kimes b. about 1814 in OH; d. probably between > 1860-1870 in Meigs Co. OH > I still haven't figured out who Elias' father was. > Don, have you just about determined that Jacob Kime(s) was the ONLY KIME(S) in OH by 1814? Cindy In 1814, living in Meigs Co., Ohio were two households: Heinrich's son Abraham Kimes B 1782, wife Nancy (Evans) with Abraham and Mary O'Hare's son Abraham B 1805. Abraham and Nancy's son John, born in 1814, (Jacob 1817 and Mary Ann 1818). These are my lineage and I am very fortunate to have Abraham's will. Also living there in 1814 was one "Old" Jacob Kimes ( ?? B.1772 Heinrich's son??) wife Margaret. Over the next few decades several more Kimes appeared in the census. Surely some of this were "Old" Jacob's sons and some were his grandsons. I am not able to document the exact lineage. Time, place and voting records led me to speculate that William, Samuel. Thomas, and John were his sons. Henry may also belong to Jacob. If Elias was born in 1814 he probably was Jacob's son. William started his household in 1820 with two males 16--26 maybe a brother living with him. Elias started his in 1830, as one male 15--20. Fits the time line. In 1820 Jacob had two males under 10 living with him and in 1830 one under 5, and one between 5 and 10. Does this mean Jacob had sons and grandsons in the same age bracket? Probably, but trying to sort them without proper documentation is a futile grasping at straws. George Washington Kimes could have been William's or Jacob's. Jacob's older sons were not born in Meigs Co. Maybe Rockbridge Co. Va. or ? Don

Just found a file in Gencircles titled "Ancestor File: Richard and Maxine Bell" denouncing Stephens marriage to Mary Keim/Kimes, except to say by common law, with notes as to why. http://www.gencircles.com/users/rrichard2/1/data/292.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Cindy, See below. Harold Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:30:50 -0700 From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> Source: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RowanRoots] NATURALIZATIONS IN GUILFORD CO., NC FROM GUILFORD CO., NC DIGITAL BITS AND ENDS LINK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following people (mostly German speaking) were naturalized in the Superior Court at Salisbury, Rowan Co, NC in the 1760's. Many of these were residents of the western part of Orange County. It seems that Salisbury was more convenient than Hillsborough. There was probably less language barrier, also. There is a typed abstract of the minutes in the Rowan Public Library in Salisbury. This information came from that abstract. The spelling of names is as it was in the abstract. The comment in (parentheses) are from the typed abstract. SUPERIOR COURT MINUTES page 597 - 22 March 1763 - Naturalized (German): John Graves, Peter Noe, Anthony Cobble, George Fogleman, Lodaweek Clap, Peter Poor, Lodoweek Swing, Lodaweek Albright, Daniel May, Isaac Creson, George Ingle, Jacob Feazer, Valentine Lingle (or Long?), Jacob Brown, George Bruner, Henry Bruner. page 598 - 22 Sept. 1763 - Natives of Germany Naturalized: Paul Harrison, Nicholas Coom, Michael Sting, George Cobell, Jacob Cobell, Adam Cobell, Andrew Rudolph, Jacob Hambell, Joseph Stailey(?), John Nutt(?), Phillip Kinse(?)(Kimes Editor), Frederick Brown, Adam Smith, Peter Kewett (Kevett Ed.), Gasper Bare, Adam Moser, Christian Morriss, George Valentine Clap, Conrad Lowe, Jacob Boon, Malekiah Isely, Malekiah Fogleman, Michael Charles, David Spike, Gasper Smith, David Smith, Henry Gardner, Leonard Kearn, Frederick Smith, William Frank, John Leopard, Frederick Fisher, Coonrod Bullen, Barnett Michel, Coonrod Mickael, Michael Brown, Lawrence Lingle, Jacob Fullwider, John Bussard, Henry Furrow, George Real (or Rial), Michael Coon (note in pencil: Not Koontz), Phillip Wiser, Leonard Miller, Peter Tinker, Michel Younger, Hannis Lopp. ============================================= Contact: Larry Noah - LARMIL-1@att.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [KEIM] Re: Philip Kime > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:36:33 -0500 > From: Cindy <ckimes@mvillage.com> > To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com > > Harold Davey wrote: > > > > Direct Descendants of Philip KIME > > > > 1 Philip KIME, b: abt 1730 in GER > > > > How does your branch know that Philip Kime was born in Germany? > > ______________________________ > >

Some of you have written asking about Johannes Keim; he WAS married twice. Here are his families: Descendants of Johannes (Hans) Keim 1 Johannes (Hans) Keim b: Abt. 1675 around Landau (near Speyer), Rhenish-Bavaria, Germany now Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany d: 1753 Oley Twp, Berks Co, PA .. +Katarina ? b: Germany m: 15 September 1706 Speier, Germany d: 1730 PA 2 Katarina KEIM b: 29 September 1708 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 08 May 1793 Oley Twp, Berks Co, PA .... +John Henry Schneider b: Abt. 1706 2 Johannes Keim b: 04 March 1710/11 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 10 October 1782 .... +Catharine STUMP b: 1711 m: 1732 2 Stophel KEIM b: 28 March 1717 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA .... +Juliana Weaver m: 1737 2 Hans Nickel KEIM b: 02 April 1719 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 23 August 1802 Reading, Berks Co, PA .... +Barbara SCHNEIDER b: 02 October 1727 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA m: 24 March 1745/46 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 08 June 1788 Reading, Berks Co, PA 2 Elizabeth KEIM b: February 1722/23 Oley Valley, Berks Co, PA d: 1781 Frederick Co, MD .... +Christian HUFFORD b: 05 January 1715/16 Schwaigern, Neckar, Wurttemburg, Germany m: 1745 d: Abt. October 1788 Monacacy Manor, Frederick Co, MD 2 Jacob Keim b: 24 October 1724 Oley Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA d: 18 October 1799 Rockland Twp, Berks Co, PA .... +Maria Magdalena Hoch b: 02 December 1730 Maiden Creek Twp, Philadelphia Co, PA m: October 1746 d: 21 April 1804 Lobachville, Berks Co, PA *2nd Wife of Johannes (Hans) Keim: .. +Maria Elizabeth BOLLER(in) b: 1713 m: 25 March 1731 Oley Twp, PA d: 02 June 1772 2 Heinrich Keim b: 27 April 1732 Oley, PA d: July 1802 Bath Co, VA .... +Anna Catharina Reber m: 25 October 1767 Bethel, Berks Co, PA d: December 1805 Bath Co, VA 2 George KEIM b: Abt. August 1733 Oley Valley, PA d: Bet. 12 May 1812 - 07 August 1813 .... +Elizabeth Musselman *2nd Wife of George KEIM: .... +Elizabeth Gheer 2 Conrad Keim b: 03 December 1734 Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA d: Bet. 1776 - 1777 Eastern District, near Oley, Berks Co, PA .... +Anna Maria // b: Abt. 1736 m: Berks Co, PA d: Aft. 1783 2 Maria KEIM b: November 1734 Oley Valley, Philadelphia (now Berks) Co, PA d: Bef. 12 March 1803 Berks Co, PA .... +Jacob Yoder b: 1735 Oley Valley, Berks Co, PA d: Bet. 12 March 1803 - 14 March 1804 Berks Co, PA 2 Barbara KEIM b: February 1735/36 d: Abt. 1795 .... +Michael WITMAN b: Abt. 1736 m: Abt. 1758 d: Aft. 24 February 1786 2 Susannah KEIM b: 25 December 1739 Oley Twp, Berks Co, PA d: 12 May 1809 .... +John Frederick von Hoof b: 08 July 1734 Zweibruchen, Germany m: 25 October 1757 d: 26 April 1818 2 // Keim 2 // Keim 2 // Keim 2 // Keim b: by 1746

Christina Humphreys wrote: > > This is my grandmother's Keim line. They were all from Northumberland > County, Pennsylvania. > > Louise Kathryn Keim (b. 1903 PA; d. 1994 WV) > d/o William Keim (b. 1865 PA; d. 1909 PA) > s/o Jacob N. Keim (b. 1822 PA; d. 1897 PA) > s/o John N. Keim (b. 1797 place unknown; d. 1849 PA) > s/o unknown > > As you can see, I'm stuck again. Suggestions are welcome! > Chris > Have you looked for censuses for these folks? Seems once someone wrote that they had the PA KEIMs appearing on censuses, indexed and available for helping subscribers on this list! Anyway, check the 1850 Northumberland Co census for a female Keim listed as head-of-household? Since John N. died the year before, the Mrs. may not have married again! How about an 1870 census for Jacob N. Keim! William was already born. If the family stayed in Northumberland Co, there should be some census info to help find siblings and in turn you MIGHT find more on the parents by looking at the siblings!

Colonial Families in the United States of America Mackenzie, George Norbury, ed. New York: 1907. & Historical and Biographical Annals of Berks Co, PA Morton L. Montgomery Chicago: J.H. Beers & Co., 1909 Page 1647 & Record and History of the Ancestors of the Keim Clan, AD 1620 Josiah J. Keim, 1928 & LDS Ancestral File -----Original Message----- From: Cindy [mailto:ckimes@mvillage.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 7:22 PM To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KEIM] Re: Johannes's ancestors windstone@pcis.net wrote: > > I also list the Johan, George, and Ludwig, > but are we really sure or is just a shot in the dark? > Good to bring this up again! WHAT is the source of these very earliest generations? I forget; it's been so long since we've mentioned Johannes's ancestors! ==== KEIM Mailing List ==== Try "Surname Helper Search for a Surname" when you don't know exactly where your ancestor lived! http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/srchsur.pl

Jeff Reimert wrote: > > What is your source data for Samuel Henry Keim's mother being Elizabeth > Geiger? I have not been able to find a reliable source for the marriage > order, but have noted in my database: > > "George had 2 wives: Elizabeth GHEER/GIER/GEIR/GEIGER and Elizabeth > MUSSELMAN. It is not known in which order that they were married, or who > had which children. > One of our subscribers sent me this some time ago: >From the Dec 1889 issue of K & AF: Early Oley Keims [from visit/interview with George *Mensch Keim] Hans Nickel Keim The Founder lived in Manatawny Conrad George m 1)Musselman 2)Gier/Geir George m Susan Mensch George Mensch Keim b 1825 John Samuel Henry Susan m George Oyster Pikeville Marcia/Maria m Charles Heche Greensburg Again, I don't own a copy of "KEIM & Allied Families in America and Europe (K & AF)" so can't check to see if the exact wording is as stated above!

nancythomson wrote: > > Does anyone know who this man is? Is he the son of Isaac Kime and Rachel > Hunter who married in Seneca Co OH and lived for a time in Ft. Wayne IN? > > Milton R. Kime (groom) and Margaret J. Redman (bride) married February 9, > 1882 by Cyrus B. Tulley, J.P. (Source: Whitley County Marriages 1860 - > 1884, Based on Abstracts by Nellie Riley Raber.) > If available, the marriage application could answer the questions. Many counties in Indiana had couples complete marriage applications. These appl. included information such as: Full name of Groom Age next birthday Race/color Place of birth Nationality Father's name Mother's maiden name No. of marriage Full name of Bride Age next birthday Race/color Place of birth Nationality Father's name Mother's maiden name No. of marriage When married Where married Witnesses By whom certified Elkhart County was using these applications books as early as 1893. I don't know how early other counties began using them or whether they were required to use them. Perhaps our subscriber living in Whitley Co would know specifics for that county!

I seem to always forget that I have two links to the KEIMS. I am also the daughter of Robert Lewis NELSON b.5-2-1926 Goshen, IN He is the son of Winifred Viola (LONG) NELSON b. 8-31-1900 Elkhart Co., IN d. 1-1-1986 Goshen, IN. She was the daughter of Clara Mae (YODER) LONG b.12-21-1877 Goshen, IN d.6-13-1960 Goshen, IN. She was the daughter of Samuel S. YODER b. 3-4-1847 Holmes Co., OH d.5-29-1917 Elkhart Co., IN. He was the son of Susanna (KEIM) YODER d. 4-6-1809 Somerset Co., PA d.4-27-1876 Lagrange Co., IN. Susanna KEIM was the sister of Emanuel N. KEIM below... My parents were 4th cousins!! Pam -----Original Message----- From: Terry and Pam Hall [mailto:tfh-cne@concentric.net] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 8:56 AM To: KEIM List Subject: Where I fit in... I am the daughter of Doris Fern (MITCHELL) NELSON b.7-22-1928, Bloomington, IL d. 2-16-2000 Goshen, IN. She was the daughter of Mabel Inez (KEIM) MITCHELL b. 10-8-1895, Middlebury, IN d. 11-1-1978, Goshen, IN. She was the daughter of Levi David KEIM b.4-25-1869, Middlebury, IN d. 11-12-1936, Goshen, IN. He was the son of John C. KEIM b.10-3-1840, Holmes Co., OH d. 3-6-1923, Elkhart Co., IN. He was the son of Emanuel N. KEIM b.12-21-1816, Sommerset Co., PA d. 6-29-1889, Elkhart Co., IN. He was the son of Nicholas KEIM b. 2-2-1768, Oley Twp., Berks Co., PA d. 10-17-1830, Salisbury, Somerset Co., PA. He was the son of Peter KEIM b.1743, Oley, PA d.after 1782, Berks Co., PA, near Reading. He was the son of Johannes Peter KEIM b.3-4-1710, Oley Twp., Berks Co., PA d. after 1762. He was the son of Johannes KEIM b.about 1675, Speyer, Palatinate, Germany d. 1753, Oley Twp., Berks Co., PA. He was the son of Johann KEIM b.about 1647, Speyer, Germany d. ?. He was the son of George KEIM b.about 1623, Speyer, Palatinate, Germany d.between 1651-1714. He was the son of Ludwig Harcourt KEIM b.about 1598, Speyer,Palatinate, Germany d.after 1662. I'm still looking for anyone with any info about my Great Aunt Barbara Aletha KEIM b.3-11-1906 d.8-25-1983. Pam

windstone@pcis.net wrote: > > I also list the Johan, George, and Ludwig, > but are we really sure or is just a shot in the dark? > Good to bring this up again! WHAT is the source of these very earliest generations? I forget; it's been so long since we've mentioned Johannes's ancestors!

Jeff Reimert wrote: > > The assumption would be that Elizabeth left it to one of her family (brother > etc.) I suppose that the records could be searched to determine how the > land passed down from 1807 to 1894. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cindy [mailto:ckimes@mvillage.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:50 PM > To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KEIM] Keim generations SOURCE INFO QUESTION > > Jeff Reimert wrote: > > > > What is your source data for Samuel Henry Keim's mother being Elizabeth > > Geiger? I have not been able to find a reliable source for the marriage > > order, but have noted in my database: > > > > "George had 2 wives: Elizabeth GHEER/GIER/GEIR/GEIGER and Elizabeth > > MUSSELMAN. It is not known in which order that they were married, or who > > had which children. > > > > We can presume that George was married to Elizabeth Musselman bef 1776 > > (There was a George Musselman KEIM b. in 1776). > > My thought on the order of marriage is that George Married Elizabeth > > Musselman 1st and Elizabeth GHEER 2nd. My reasoning is this: > > > > George receives the KEIM homestead in 1762. He leaves the estate to his > > wife Elizabeth when he dies aft. 6/1807. The KEIM burial plot where > > Johannes (b 1675) is buried is noted as being on the GHEER farm in 1894." > > > > I DON'T have an answer..... my question is: Why was it called the GHEER > farm? Isn't this the George that inherit the KEIM property from > Johannes? [George receives the KEIM homestead in 1762.] Even tho' he > left his estate to Elizabeth Gheer KEIM, wouldn't the property be known > as the KEIM farm, not the GHEER farm? > > Have I missed something? > I knew something was amiss.... in my notes is the statement, "The remains of Johannes Keim, the founder, were undoubtedly inteered by his son Nicholas, in the private burial plot on the "G_____ Farm" at Oley" from DeB. Randolph Keim's "KEIM & Allied Families in America and Europe (K & AF)," originally publ. Reading/Harrisburg, PA; December 1898 - Jan 1900: p. 4. Also another note posted by a former subscriber to this list: "Johannes was buried on son Nicholas's farm, now the Gheer Farm on Oley Line." I don't own a copy of "KEIM & Allied Families in America and Europe (K & AF)" so can't check to see what the exact wording is, if not as stated above! Cindy

Also, http://reimert.org/genealogy/keim_walnut_page1.jpg http://reimert.org/genealogy/keim_walnut_page2.jpg If you read these, it talks about 2 properties comprising the original homestead. 1 on Keim (Boyer) rd. southwest of Lobachsville and the second at Oysterdale and Lobachsville roads at the village of Pikeville. According to the article, The Pikeville property was the one that George Keim inherited in 1762 The article mentions 2 Keim burial plots on the Keim Rd. property. There is no mention of GHEER anywhere in this article......so confusing...... -----Original Message----- From: SUSAN BURGESS [mailto:suekbee@home.net] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 5:13 PM To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KEIM] Gheer Farm I checked the book, The Oley Valley Heritage The Colonial Years: 1700-1775 by Philip E. Pendleton, 1994. There is no mention of any of the names Gheer, Geir, Gier, Geiger, or Musselman owning any land in Exeter, Oley, or Amity Zones during these years. The author has mapped the land ownership in 1725, 1750, and 1775 in each of those zones. In 1775 George Keim owned all the land that was owned previously in 1725 and 1750 by Johannes Keim. I have in my records that the son of George Keim, George Musselman Keim and his wife Susanna Mensch are buried in a private burial ground on their farm which probably had been part of the original Johannes Keim farm. This info came from "Historical and Biographical Annals of Berks County, Pennsylvania," by Morton L. Montgomery, Chicago: J.H. Beers & Co., 1909 p. 1647. Could this be the same gravesite? Where does the 1894 reference come from that says Johannes' grave is on the Gheer farm? 1894 is several generations away from George who died by the end of 1813. Perhaps the land was parceled and a Gheer owned the portion that had the gravesite in 1894. So did the property pass through these owners? 1. Johannes Keim b.abt. 1675 2. his son, George Keim b.1733 3. his son, George Musselman Keim b. 1776 4. his son, Benneville Keim b. 1809 5. after Benneville's death in 1873 his property went to his surviving spouse until her death in 1894. 6. sold in 1895 to Moses Everhard (Everhand), husband of Susan Keim (daughter of Benneville Keim). There is confusion here since I also have that John Y. Shade, husband of Emma Keim (daughter of Benneville) purchased her sister, Susan's share of the estate in 1895. I believe that Susan and Emma were the only surviving children. Anybody have anything more to add or corrections to this chronology? Susan ==== KEIM Mailing List ==== Post queries on GenConnect and GenForum. GenConnect--> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html GenForum--> http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/search/

From: Keim & Allied Families : "Notes of a drive through Oley township with Jonas DeTurck, of Neversink, Fall of 1894. Following deciphered on old sandstone tombstones in family burial plot on Gheer Farm, Oley Line: Zum Audenken - von Johannes Keim u Frau Susanna, Sterbt d. Decem., obiden yahre sein alter 70 mos. u 4 Tag. Zum Audenken von Johan Keim u Fr. Susann, folgende Kinder ruhe, also Kinder von Johan Keim und Catherina geb 20 Feb., geb de 5 Augst. 1771 Sterbt c. 21 December, obigen yahre seine alter 10 m. u 1 Tag. 1781 Sterbt d. 9 Jan. 1784, ihr alter 2 yahr 5 mo. u 6 Tag. "Zum Audenken Von Maria Elizabeth (this may be the 2d wife of Johannes Keim the founder, see his will)" [last name variations cut] "Ist gestorben 2 june, 1772, ihre alter 59 yahre ----- ein. This would make her born 1713, which date would correspond. He married her in 1731 when she was 18 years of age." -----Original Message----- From: SUSAN BURGESS [mailto:suekbee@home.net] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 5:13 PM To: KEIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KEIM] Gheer Farm I checked the book, The Oley Valley Heritage The Colonial Years: 1700-1775 by Philip E. Pendleton, 1994. There is no mention of any of the names Gheer, Geir, Gier, Geiger, or Musselman owning any land in Exeter, Oley, or Amity Zones during these years. The author has mapped the land ownership in 1725, 1750, and 1775 in each of those zones. In 1775 George Keim owned all the land that was owned previously in 1725 and 1750 by Johannes Keim. I have in my records that the son of George Keim, George Musselman Keim and his wife Susanna Mensch are buried in a private burial ground on their farm which probably had been part of the original Johannes Keim farm. This info came from "Historical and Biographical Annals of Berks County, Pennsylvania," by Morton L. Montgomery, Chicago: J.H. Beers & Co., 1909 p. 1647. Could this be the same gravesite? Where does the 1894 reference come from that says Johannes' grave is on the Gheer farm? 1894 is several generations away from George who died by the end of 1813. Perhaps the land was parceled and a Gheer owned the portion that had the gravesite in 1894. So did the property pass through these owners? 1. Johannes Keim b.abt. 1675 2. his son, George Keim b.1733 3. his son, George Musselman Keim b. 1776 4. his son, Benneville Keim b. 1809 5. after Benneville's death in 1873 his property went to his surviving spouse until her death in 1894. 6. sold in 1895 to Moses Everhard (Everhand), husband of Susan Keim (daughter of Benneville Keim). There is confusion here since I also have that John Y. Shade, husband of Emma Keim (daughter of Benneville) purchased her sister, Susan's share of the estate in 1895. I believe that Susan and Emma were the only surviving children. Anybody have anything more to add or corrections to this chronology? Susan ==== KEIM Mailing List ==== Post queries on GenConnect and GenForum. GenConnect--> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html GenForum--> http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/search/

Still searching for the PARENTS and SIBLINGS of Daniel KEIME. 1. Daniel KEIME was born on 18 Nov 1806 in York Co, PA. He died on 22 Jan 1877 in Fulton Co, IL. He was buried in Saunders Cemetary. He was married to Katherine KENNEL on 27 Mar 1827 in Stark Co, OH. Katherine KENNEL was born on 18 Aug 1804. She died on 5 Jan 1886. She was buried in Saunders Cemetary. Daniel KEIME and Katherine KENNEL had the following children: +2 i. John J. KEIME. +3 ii. Elizabeth KEIME. +4 iii. Joseph KEIME. +5 iv. Solomon William KEIME. MINE +6 v. Levi Henry KEIME. 7 vi. Sarah J. KEIME was born in 1841. She died in 1916. +8 vii. Margaret KEIME. +9 viii. Catherine KEIME. SECOND GENERATION 2. John J. KEIME was born in Stark Co, OH. He was married to Margaret SMITH. 3. Elizabeth KEIME was born in 1825. She was married to John PITTMAN. John PITTMAN was born on 21 Nov 1821 in Bedford Co, PA. Elizabeth KEIME and John PITTMAN had the following children: 10 i. Charles L. PITTMAN. 11 ii. Franklin O. PITTMAN. 12 iii. Jennie Estella PITTMAN. 13 iv. Franklin E. PITTMAN. 4. Joseph KEIME was born in 1830. He was married to Sarah WOLF. 5. Solomon William KEIME was born on 18 Mar 1833 in Stark Co, OH. He died on 5 Dec 1919. He was buried in Howard Cemetary. He was married to Lavina MASON (daughter of Samuel MASON and Elizabeth PORTER) on 11 Mar 1859 in Fulton Co, IL. Lavina MASON was born on 28 Jan 1842 in OHI. She died on 10 Dec 1922. She was buried in Howard Cemetary. Solomon William KEIME and Lavina MASON had the following children: +14 i. Martha Ellen KEIME. +15 ii. Charles Newton KEIME. +16 iii. Ulysses S. Grant KEIME. +17 iv. Samuel KEIME. 18 v. Daniel KEIME was born on 4 Apr 1873. He died in 1874. +19 vi. Ralph Edward KEIME. +20 vii. James Walter KEIME. 21 viii. David KEIME was born in 1880. He died in 1880. 22 ix. Solomon KEIME was born in 1881. He died in 1882. 23 x. Laura KEIME was born in 1882. She died in 1884. +24 xi. Bell KEIME MINE +25 xii. Elva KEIME.

I checked the book, The Oley Valley Heritage The Colonial Years: 1700-1775 by Philip E. Pendleton, 1994. There is no mention of any of the names Gheer, Geir, Gier, Geiger, or Musselman owning any land in Exeter, Oley, or Amity Zones during these years. The author has mapped the land ownership in 1725, 1750, and 1775 in each of those zones. In 1775 George Keim owned all the land that was owned previously in 1725 and 1750 by Johannes Keim. I have in my records that the son of George Keim, George Musselman Keim and his wife Susanna Mensch are buried in a private burial ground on their farm which probably had been part of the original Johannes Keim farm. This info came from "Historical and Biographical Annals of Berks County, Pennsylvania," by Morton L. Montgomery, Chicago: J.H. Beers & Co., 1909 p. 1647. Could this be the same gravesite? Where does the 1894 reference come from that says Johannes' grave is on the Gheer farm? 1894 is several generations away from George who died by the end of 1813. Perhaps the land was parceled and a Gheer owned the portion that had the gravesite in 1894. So did the property pass through these owners? 1. Johannes Keim b.abt. 1675 2. his son, George Keim b.1733 3. his son, George Musselman Keim b. 1776 4. his son, Benneville Keim b. 1809 5. after Benneville's death in 1873 his property went to his surviving spouse until her death in 1894. 6. sold in 1895 to Moses Everhard (Everhand), husband of Susan Keim (daughter of Benneville Keim). There is confusion here since I also have that John Y. Shade, husband of Emma Keim (daughter of Benneville) purchased her sister, Susan's share of the estate in 1895. I believe that Susan and Emma were the only surviving children. Anybody have anything more to add or corrections to this chronology? Susan

From: WVJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Akron Beacon Journal Obits - February 11, 2001 Following are names from Akron Beacon Journal Death Notices. These obits either state that the person was born in WV or I recognize the surname from my research in WV. These obits will appear online (it seems to take a couple of weeks) at the following site. http://www.ohio.com/bj/news/obits.html#search <A HREF="http://www.ohio.com/bj/news/obits.html#search">http://www.ohio.com/bj/news/obits.html#search</A> If you need additional information before they appear online, contact <BMaurer396@aol.com> Hazel (REED) KENNELL, born March 7, 1921 Zona, WV, died February 9, 2001 Raymond KIMES, 89, died February 8, 2001 John "Jack" L KITZMILLER, 83, born Thomas, WV, died February 9, 2001 Eugene C "Gene" SHAFFER, 78, died February 10, 2001 (note: wife's maiden name GANDEE) Norman "Casey" VANSCOY, 84, born Parsons, WV, died February 8, 2001

Jeff Reimert wrote: > > All: > > Has any determined which ships he traveled on in 1698/99 and again in 1707? > I have read that he arrived at Philadelphia in 1707, but what about 1698/99? > New York? > Were they keeping records in 1698/99?