----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Kuck" <jkuck@elmnet.net> To: <ILPEORIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: [ILPEORIA-L] MAPS SHOWING CEMETERIES > The following information on maps showing cemeteries is from Ancestry Daily > News, 16 May 2001, which brings you "Your Daily Dose of Genealogy." This > is a free newsletter from Ancestry.com, and anyone can sign up and receive > it at no charge. I find much that is useful in their newsletter. > J. Kuck > > > MAPS SHOWING CEMETERIES > > When I go into a courthouse I go into the Tax Assessor's office and > purchase a DOT map of the county. I then take a red ink pen and circle > the cemetery signs on the entire map, so when I am able to visit an > area where I know my ancestors lived, I can follow the rural roads > directly to the cemeteries that I want to search. I know from > experience that in GA those maps I purchased in 1970s had the > cemeteries identified, but a more recent one for Bibb Co., GA does not > show the cemetery symbol. I wish that they would continue these > markings on the maps for those of us trying to locate our loved ones so > long ago passed on before us. > Naomi Buckner > > Editor's Note: The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) Geographic Names > Information System can be searched for cemeteries by county. Just pick > a state, enter the county, and under "Feature Type" choose "cemetery" > at: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > The list of cemeteries in the database shows the town or city that each > cemetery is located in, and by clicking on a particular cemetery, you > can get the exact location. Maps, and sometimes aerial photographs, can > also be brought up and zoomed in on.

----- Original Message ----- From: <jrmaxwel@cc.owu.edu> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 6:41 PM ===================================== > Source: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Lucy Stone (1818-1893) > > > The recent discussion on listing maiden names on headstones > prompts me to mention Lucy Stone (1818-1893) an anti-slavery and > women's sufferage activist. After she married Henry Blackwell she > retained her own name. Women who chose to keep their own > names after marriage in that era were then often called "Stoners". > You can find several articles on Lucy Stone by doing a search at > www.google.com. > The practice of changing a woman's last name to that of her > husband is a custom in the US. It is not a legal requirement. To the > best of my knowledge only the state of Hawaii ever tried to enforce > legislation requiring a name change at marriage (this had more to > do with racist than sexist thinking) and that legislation has long > been repealed. > I have often been frustrated in my genealogy research by > another custom, that of the wife using the first as well as the last > name of her husband. For example, in the obituary for Owen Milton > Keim (1848-1914) his surviving children included Mrs. Arthur > Radman,Mrs. R.L. Crosland, and Mrs. Warren L. Jacoby, and his > surviving sisters were Mrs. George Hartman and Mrs. Jacob > Frankenfield. His unfortunate wife was not mentioned by ANY > name; it states "He leaves his widow...". > So, put me down as a yes. If you know her name pay for the > extra letters to record it on her headstone. JR Maxwell >

Cindy wrote: > > rec'd info from a lookup request on a David Kime listed on the 1860 > IN census. That info turned out to be the David in question. He and Mary > A. KIME were living in Richland Twp, Whitley Co, IN. Possibly the same > residence where Daniel was living in 1870. I wonder if Mary had > remarried by 1870 and Daniel was perhaps living with a step-father????? > The obit on Mary told she married 2nd a John Gilliland. They divorced > and she later married a Fred Hicks. The latter marriage ended in a > divorce also. > Continuing with checking obits for these folks, I found one listing Daniel E. Kime's half-brother. Reuben Gilliland was born 09 October 1868 near Larwell, IN (Noble Co, IN), so Mary Ann had married John Gilliland by 1868. The obit on Reuben also lists the name of Rosa KIME's husband as Milton Grubbs. Anyone connect yet? Cindy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Kuder" <marcie4fun@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:08 AM ================================= > Source: GC-Pennsylvania Dutch Queries > URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Pa/Dutch/16492 > Subject: Kuder > > > Surname: Jacob Kuder, Adam Johann Kuder, Esther Pealer Kuder, Mary Kime > Kuder > ------------------------- > > The Kuder family came from Columbia County Pennsylvania .The names are > common and often repeated. Any information regarding Kuders would be appreciated. >

Faye sent me a couple emails with some data that might prove helpful to some of you with interests in Easton and/or Northampton Co, PA. She states none of this is copyrighted so am forwarding this to the list with her permission. __________________ Faye writes: In a local history I found a listing for a Susan KEIM. In the marriage license application it states she was born 1824 in Northampton County, with a residence of South Easton, PA. It says she was the daughter of Samuel KEIM and his wife Sally. She had been previously married to a man named DEITERLINE, who died August 1877. This application was for a marriage that took place on 31 May 1893 in Waverly, Lackawanna County, PA to a Simon BIESECKER, resident of Waverly. A second email from Faye included some add'l info: The information I sent you is from a copy of Simon BIESECKER and Susan KEIM DEITERLINE's marriage license from Lackawanna Co, PA. On it she states that she was 69 years old (1824) born in Northampton County. That she was a resident of South Easton, PA; which is in Northampton County. She states that her father is Samuel KEIM and his wife was named Sally She was previously married to a man named DEITERLINE who died August 1877. Simon states that he was 69 years old also. Born in Pittston, Luzerne County, PA (Pittston is halfway between Wilkes Barre, Luzerne County and Scranton Lackawanna County, PA) He states that he is a resident of Waverly, Lackawanna County, PA. (Waverly is not far from the Milwaukee section of Lackawanna County that I mentioned in my post to the list the week of 23 April 2001.) He is the son of Conrad BIESECKER and Margaret SWARTZ. He was previously married to a Melissa MILLER ( I got this from the local history) She died June 1892. Simon and Susan were married on 31 May 1893 in Waverly, Lackawanna County, PA and it was written across the top of the application "Don't Publish" which meant not to put in the paper. Faye

Recieved this information today and thought I would share. I believe the poster to be a daughter of John and Nola, who had a total of 5 children, 4 girls and 1 boy. I had never known Eula's last name so this is new information to me, hope it helps someone else as well. :) Kim > >George Columbus Kimes >B. May 5, 1876, Barber, Logan Co., Akansas > >Married: Eula Gertrude Brazzel >B. April 4, 1879 in Tennessee >D. June 18, 1955 in Caddo, Bryan Co., OK > >Their children were: > >Otis >Callie >Vera >Roy >Guy >Frank (June) >James (Red) >John Bascom: B. May 5, 1909, Caddo. Bryan Co., OK > D: February 14, 1967, Portland, Oregon > >Married: Nola Edna Dodd on October 24, 1929, in Blue, Bryan Co., OK > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Faye wrote asking if I knew any more about Susan and her family? I don't, but I DO have these folks that were ALL born in Northampton Co. Perhaps this list will offer add'l clues! Northampton Co, PA KEIMs Name Birth date Spouse Keim, John Musselman, Lydia Kles, Elizabeth 04 May 1756 KEIM, Johannes Keim, Jacob 11 January 1789 Christianna Weber Keim, Wilhelm Heinrich 03 February 1792 Weber, Christianna 12 August 1794 Keim, Jacob Keim, George 20 December 1794 Long, Christina KEIM, Maria Elizabeth Bef. 07 August 1796 Long, Christina 05 February 1799 Keim, George MENSCH, Christian March 1802 Keim, Johannes Bef. 30 October 1808 Keim, Karl Bef. 17 March 1811 Keim, Andrew 07 May 1817 Brown, Elizabeth Kime, (William) Martin 19 January 1819 Bell, Cynthia Ann Brown, Elizabeth 25 October 1822 Keim, Andrew Frankenfield, Jacob 02 June 1843 Keim, Christianna Keim, Christianna 30 October 1845 Frankenfield, Jacob Keim, Susan Araminda 11 October 1860 King, Cornelius Frankenfield, George W. 13 October 1872 Ida Ellen Nora Spade Keim, Lillie Daisy 13 September 1875 Herbert Elmer Gradwohl Sandt, Eva Mary 14 January 1884 Sandt, Clayton D. 30 September 1885 Keim, Anna M. Keim, Anna M. 08 October 1886 Sandt, Clayton D.

Most of the long-time subscribers to this list know that several of us are keeping info on ALL the KEIMs, KIMEs, KIMESes, etc.... AND, we try to answer your queries in a timely manner.... BUT, sometimes the questions get lost in the mass of emails we receive. SO, if you have posted a query to this list and have NOT rec'd an answer, please repost your question(s) periodically until SOMEONE acknowledged your query. Thanks for being patient. The "staff"

Ran across some KIMEs brousing through the online obits at the Fulton County [IN] Library's website and have been working on this family all week. Now I need some help from others! Here's what I've found so far: Descendants of David Kime 1 David Kime b. 1836 IN d: 1862 .. +Mary Ann Geiger b. 1838 IN m. 1860 d: 13 January 1914 north of Rochester, IN ... 2 Daniel Edward Kime b: 08 September 1861 Larwell, Noble Co, IN d: 17 November 1936 Rochester, Fulton Co, IN ....... +Susan Mitchell m: 14 December 1892 ... 2 Rosa Kime ....... +// McGuire m: Bef. 1914 ... *2nd Husband of Rosa Kime: ....... +// Grubb m: Bef. 1936 Rosa and Edward Kime's father died in 1862. Edward was born in 1861, consequently, there should have been guardians appointed with the children being so young. Checking the Noble Co website, there was one such guardian record listed, AND, the info states the father was David Kime: "Kime Rose, heir of David Kime, guardian Daniel Zeigler. Filed 17 Oct 1876." http://www.usgennet.org/usa/in/county/noble/Guardian/nobguard-kq.html No guardian was appointed for Daniel. In 1876, he would have been 15 and in some states, children over 14 were allowed to choose their guardian. This might explain why none was "appointed" for him. But the question, "WHY was no guardian appointed until 1876?" bothers me. I checked the 1870 IN census at my local library; found a listing for Daniel Edward Kime, as follows: Daniel E. Kime, age 9, born IN, living in Richland Twp, Whitley Co, IN. There were NO other KIMEs listed for that particular page of the census and I couldn't remember the name of his step-father, John Gilliland, to check where he was living. Also rec'd info from a lookup request on a David Kime listed on the 1860 IN census. That info turned out to be the David in question. He and Mary A. KIME were living in Richland Twp, Whitley Co, IN. Possibly the same residence where Daniel was living in 1870. I wonder if Mary had remarried by 1870 and Daniel was perhaps living with a step-father????? The obit on Mary told she married 2nd a John Gilliland. They divorced and she later married a Fred Hicks. The latter marriage ended in a divorce also. As for David Kime, info in one of the obits said he died in 1862 during the War. It doesn't specifically say he SERVED in the Civil War, but there were some David KIME(S)es, etc. that served in Indiana. I did a search on Google for: "David Kime" Whitley One of the two hits was in reference to the Civil War: Civil War Soldiers ... is the only complete roster of Whitley county soldiers in existence. The Colonel ... James L. Johnson John H. Kendall David Kime Isaac Kime, Hiram Lantz Jacob S ... www.kneller.com/WhitleyIN/civil001.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages I couldn't access the above site! Perhaps someone else can link to this site and info me of what it shows! But, with the above names of David Kime & ISAAC KIME this provides yet another clue to David's possible ancestry! Could David Kime be connected to Valentine (1711-1808) KIME's line? Hoping someone can help? Cindy Kimes ckimes@mvillage.com P.S. Not related; just LOVE genealogical puzzles!

There was also THIS Samuel Keim: Descendants of Samuel Keim 1 Samuel Keim b: 1810 Somerset Co, PA d: 1887 Lagrange Co, IN .. +Catherine Berger m: 17 April 1834 Holmes Co, OH ... 2 Elizabeth Keim ... 2 Rachel Keim ... 2 David Keim Kim Kimes wrote: > > I am trying to figure out who Samuel Keim's parents are. I have a > Samuel Keim born about 1810, son of Samuel Keim and Anna Blough, who > married a Catherine Speicher (???) >

F1LES@aol.com wrote: > > I found a different wife for Emanuel B.Keim b:1854 OH d:1922 to Sarah Jane > Smith b:1856 d:1895 under this list, as the parents of Lydia Kime. > but could not find out who the sender of the info was. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~quick/d0042/g0000005.html#I124323 > A trick someone shared, quite helpful in situations like this, is to take the original URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~quick/d0042/g0000005.html#I124323 and delete sections from the end, taking care to end with the "/" mark. You keep doing this until the desired info is obtained. So in this case, take off the end - g0000005.html#I124323 and you get http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~quick/d0042/ If that doesn't work, take off - d0042/ and try http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~quick/ Using this trick doesn't ALWAYS achieve the desired results, but it frequently helps!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Kellaway" <quinte@attcanada.net> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 8:08 AM ========================================== > Source: GC-County of Hastings<br>Ontario, Canada Query Forum > URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Canada/Ontario/Hastings/1590 > Subject: LLOYD and KINCAID Families > > > Surname: LLOYD, KINCAID, SHANNON, WANAMAKER, WILDER, BROWN, PALMER, WARE, > BOTTOMS, KIEM > ------------------------- > > John B. LLOYD farmer,(b. 20 December, 1814) married Mary Anne KINCAID > (1822-1883), resided in Thurlow Township, Hastings County. The couple had > the following children: Andrew, John B., James, Lizzie (SHANNON), Kate > (WANAMAKER), Mary Ann (WILDER), Isabella, Aggie (BROWN), Eliza (PALMER), > Maggie (WARE), Sarah 1(BOTTOMS)2(KEIM). The LLOYD family were descended > from > UE stock and the KINCAID family arrived in Canada in 1829. Would appreciate > any information on the above families. > > Don Kellaway > > >

Can someone tell what happened to the free databases on Ancestry.com? Prior to the end of April, the "Ancestry Daily News" always listed 4-5 "Databases of the Day" that were FREE to search for about 10 days. Now all the listings seem to be available to subscribers only. Did I miss an announcement? Cindy Kimes

Ancestry announced they would no longer allow for free viewing. It is now only for subscribers. Bummer. I guess too many people were like me and waited until they updated something so I could look for free. Susan Kimes Burgess Cindy wrote: > > Can someone tell what happened to the free databases on Ancestry.com? > Prior to the end of April, the "Ancestry Daily News" always listed 4-5 > "Databases of the Day" that were FREE to search for about 10 days. Now > all the listings seem to be available to subscribers only. Did I miss an > announcement? > > Cindy Kimes > > ==== KEIM Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check the KEIM FAMILY HOMEPAGE for additional links. > The URL is <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~edwards/keim.html>

I found a different wife for Emanuel B.Keim b:1854 OH d:1922 to Sarah Jane Smith b:1856 d:1895 under this list, as the parents of Lydia Kime. but could not find out how the sender of the info was. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~quick/d0042/g0000005.html#I124323 My gg grandmother was Lydia Kime(Keim?) Mygrandmother was Dora Lumbert daughter of Frederick Lumbert & Lydia Kime. I was given the info that Lydia was the child of Emanuel Samuel Keim b: 19834 & Sarah Blough b:1837 Now I am confussed. This shows they were in their 40's when Lydia was born does anyone have info on whow Lydia Kime b:02-24-1877 d:04-27-2952 I have the Lumbert's in MI where Dora & Frederick born. Any suggestions,please help. Dora

A couple more sites I've used that might help with branches that settled or passed through northern Indiana, are these: Elkhart Public Library [Elkhart Co, IN] http://www.elkhart.lib.in.us/elkhart.hp/html/obit_db.html Saint Joseph County Public Library [South Bend, IN] http://sjcpl.lib.in.us/homepage/LocalHist/Necrology.html Fulton County Public Library [Rochester, IN] http://www.fulco.lib.in.us/fc_genealogy.htm Kosciusko County, Indiana - Obituaries http://www.rootsweb.com/~inkosciu/obituaries.html

Here's a KEIM buried in Lake View Cemetery, Kendallville, Wayne Twp, Noble Co, IN; he is NOT buried with any of the KIMEs. Keim, Philip H. (Henry????) Birth date : 31 Mar 1881 Death date : Jun 1970 S.S. # issued in : Ohio Last known residence was Kendallville, IN (Noble Co, IN) Anyone connect?

As more and more web owners add files containing vital records which are so informative to those researching family histories, it would be REALLY helpful if folks would share these special URLs when they encounter them! A couple I've found recently that might help some of you with branches that settled or passed through northern Indiana, are these sites: Noble County, IN http://www.usgennet.org/usa/in/county/noble/ Fulton County http://www.fulco.lib.in.us/ St. Joseph Co, MI GenConnect obits http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mi/StJosephObits

BOJANOWSKI wrote: > > Meigs Co. didn't exist in 1810 but was part of Athens Co. There are no > existing census records for Ohio before 1820, at least not at the > National Archives in Chicago. There is a listing for a Jacob Kime in 1810: 1810 Athens Co, OH fed. census; pg. 008 > > There is speculation by those of us interested in the Meigs Co. Kimes > that he is the father of Elias, William, Thomas, Samuel, and John Kimes > who were in Meigs Co. about the same time. > Here's some data on JACOB KIME(S): There was a Jacob KIME(S) born: 16 July 1772, near Frederickstown, Frederick Co, MD. There was a Jacob KIME(S) christened: 21 May 1775, Frederick Evangelical Lutheran Church, Frederick, MD. There was a Jacob KIME(S) living in Rockbridge Co, VA in July 1793. There was a Jacob KIME(S) who owned property: 1806, Athens Co, OH. There was a Jacob KIME(S) living in Athens Co, OH in 1810. There is a court record for a Jacob KIME(S), dated 1825, Pomeroy, Meigs Co, OH There was a Jacob KIME(S) living in Chester Twp, Meigs Co, OH in 1830 The "Old" Jacob Kimes of Meigs Co., OH disappears from records in that county 1833 - 1835. Are all the above the SAME Jacob??????? I don't know! Bill also ask: > > How do you know he was married to a Margaret? Was there a will? > The court record dated 1825, Pomeroy, Meigs Co, OH. Probably the same Jacob. And lastly, an add'l thought on Margaret..... Someone reported LONG ago a marriage listing for a Jacob Kime(s) and Jane Dewey. What if her full name was Margaret Jane Dewey! There were DEWEYs living near Belleville, VA in 1801. AND, this IS next to Meigs Co..... right across the Ohio River. _________________ Speculation in areas...... but it fits together quite neatly! Now HOW to prove all this is your Jacob!

Still looking for descendants of Henry Kimes. HENRY KIMES was born ca August 1823 in Dauphin Co, PA. He married LYDIA DAVIS (thought to be a daughter of JAMES DAVIS and MARY GARVIN) 23 March 1845 in Kosciusko Co, IN. Their children were: i. MARY ANN KIMES, b. 1847, IN. ii. NANCY JANE KIMES, b. Abt. 1848, IN. iii. JOHN KIMES, b. 1851, IA. iv. JASPER KIMES, b. 1854, IA. v. NOAH KIMES, b. 1857, IN. Kosciusko Co marriage records include listings for a Henry Kimes that married Catherine Coens/Cowens on 21 July 1861 and another marriage record for a Henry Kimes, married to a Martha Smith on 22 March 1868. Unknown if these are the same Henry that married Lydia. I don't know WHEN Henry died and he may have left the area. Anyone think they MIGHT connect? Cindy Kimes