Maybe this will help ~ from Ancestry.com Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800 - 1941 Records: "Name: Rebecca Johnston ~ Spouse Name: William KIMES Marriage Date: 22 Oct 1871 ~ Marriage County: Marshall Source Title 1: Marshall County Indiana Source Title 2: Marriage Records 1836-1888 Books: A1 1836-1845 B1 Source Title 3: Compiled by Ruth M Slevin Part I Grooms Part II B Book: C ~ OS Page: 292" 1880 US Fed Census - State: Indiana - County: Marshall - Bourbon Township "KIMES, William - white - male - 30 yrs old - head - married - farmer - born OH - both parents born PA KIMES, Rebecca - white - female - 26 yrs old - wife - married - keeping house - born IN - both parents born KY KIMES, Lily Cora - white - female - 6 yrs old - daughter - born IN KIMES, Arthur - white - male - 4 yrs old - son - born IN KIMES, Laura E - white - female - 1 yr old - daughter - born IN" 1900 US Fed Census - State: Indiana - County: Marshall Township: German - City: Bremen Town " KIMES, William S - head - white - male - (born) Dec 1849 - 50 yrs old - married 29 yrs - born OH - both parents born PA - laborer sawmill KIMES, Rebecca - wife - white - female - (born) Feb 1852 - 48 yrs old - married 29 yrs - mother of 7 children with 4 living - born IN - father born PA - mother born KY KIMES, Arthur - son - white - male - (born) Nov 1876 - 24 yrs old - single KIMES, Walter - son - white - male - (born) Jun 1884 - 16 yrs old - single HULPHINE, Albert - boarder - white - male - (born) Jun 1850 - 49 yrs old - widowed" "KIMES, William S" comes up 1910 US Fed Census Index in Ancestry.com but he doesn't show on the original image from there - thinking maybe there's some problem with the indexing system. 1910 Index shows he's in the same place as in 1900. 1920 US Fed Census - same 4 people as in 1900 in same place - William, Rebecca, Arthur & Walter with ages respectively as 70, 68, 43 & 33 - other info same. William shows occupation as none. Arthur as a laborer in a foundry. Walter as house painter. 1930 US Fed Census - State: Indiana - County: Marshall Township: German - City: Bremen Town "KIMES, Rebecca - head - owns home - 3000 (home value) - has radio set - does not live on farm - female - white - 72 yrs old - marital status is a scribble, could be either M or W - age @ 1st marriage 19 - able to read & write - born IN - both parents born KY - speaks English - occupation none KIMES, Walter - son - male - white - 30 yrs old - single - born IN - father born OH - mother born IN - speaks English - occupation house painter - yes working - not a veteran" No index listing for a William Kimes of the appropriate age on the 1930 Census. In a message dated 4/4/2006, [email protected] writes: Add'l research on William lists his birth - Dec 1849. {died 20 Nov 1933} Canton, OH, is in Stark Co... what KIMESes were living near there ca 1850? Or were they KEIMEs? --- Cindy Kimes [email protected]> wrote: Rec'd a copy of William's obituary: KIMES ~ > William Sanford Kimes, 84, died at 7 o'clock Monday morning at his home at 1315 Spy Run avenue. Born in Canton, O., he resided here for the past ten years. He was a retired lumberman, and was a member of the Methodist church. Survivors include the widow, Rebekah, now living in Bremen, Ind.; a daughter, Mrs. Flora Wagner of this city; a brother, Edward Kimes living in Michigan; ten grandchildren and 20 great-grandchildren. The body was removed to Mungovan & Sons'mortuary. Funeral services will be arranged later.

Or are they descendants of KEIMs from Northampton Co, PA... note the given names Asher and Milton... names used in families in and from Northampton Co. --- Cindy Kimes <[email protected]> wrote: > > Adding 1860 census info, we have this family: > > > Descendants of William Kime > > 1 William Kime b: ca 1807 PA d: 1860 - 1880 > .. +Elizabeth b: ca 1816 PA d: Aft. 1880 > ... 2 Eleanor J. Kime b: 1837 OH > ... 2 Mary E. Kime b: 1839 PA > ... 2 Sarah Ann Kime b: 1839 PA > ........... +Jeremiah S. Byers b: 1832 - 1835 OH > m: 21 December 1862 Stark Co, OH > ... 2 Asher J. Kime b: 1843 PA > ... 2 Milton G. Kimes b: 1846 OH > ........... +Cora E. Neidigh b: ca 1853 OH > m: 08 October 1870 Stark Co, OH > ... 2 Susannah R. Kime b: 1848 OH d: Aft. 1880 > ... 2 William S. Kime b: 06 December 1849 OH > ... 2 Thomas E. Kime b: 1853 OH > ... 2 Lewis E. Kime b: 1857 OH > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Adding 1860 census info, we have this family: Descendants of William Kime 1 William Kime b: ca 1807 PA d: 1860 - 1880 .. +Elizabeth b: ca 1816 PA d: Aft. 1880 ... 2 Eleanor J. Kime b: 1837 OH ... 2 Mary E. Kime b: 1839 PA ... 2 Sarah Ann Kime b: 1839 PA ........... +Jeremiah S. Byers b: 1832 - 1835 OH m: 21 December 1862 Stark Co, OH ... 2 Asher J. Kime b: 1843 PA ... 2 Milton G. Kimes b: 1846 OH ........... +Cora E. Neidigh b: ca 1853 OH m: 08 October 1870 Stark Co, OH ... 2 Susannah R. Kime b: 1848 OH d: Aft. 1880 ... 2 William S. Kime b: 06 December 1849 OH ... 2 Thomas E. Kime b: 1853 OH ... 2 Lewis E. Kime b: 1857 OH Anyone connect to this line? Are they some of Valentine Keim's descendants? It looks like Elizabeth, the mother above, on the 1880 Jackson Twp, Seneca Co, OH census. --- Cindy Kimes <[email protected]> wrote: > > They were KIMEs???? see > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/oh/columbiana/1850/indx-h-k.txt > > 1850 U. S. CENSUS: Salem Twp., Columbiana Co., Ohio, August 1850, > page 23, dwelling 325, family 335: > William Kime 43 M farmer b. PA > --Elizabeth 33 F " > --Elenor J 13 F b. Ohio > --Mary E 11 F b. PA > --Sarah A 10 F " > --Asher J 7 M " > --Milton G 5 M b. Ohio > --Susan P 2 F " > --William S 9/12 M " > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

They were KIMEs???? see http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/oh/columbiana/1850/indx-h-k.txt 1850 U. S. CENSUS: Salem Twp., Columbiana Co., Ohio, August 1850, page 23, dwelling 325, family 335: William Kime 43 M farmer b. PA --Elizabeth 33 F " --Elenor J 13 F b. Ohio --Mary E 11 F b. PA --Sarah A 10 F " --Asher J 7 M " --Milton G 5 M b. Ohio --Susan P 2 F " --William S 9/12 M " Virgene shared this same census info w/us back in 1998. She included the date the census was taken - August 1850. Looks like this could well be William Sanford Kime's parents. --- Cindy Kimes <[email protected]> wrote: > > Add'l research on William lists his birth - Dec 1849. Canton, OH, > is > in Stark Co... what KIMESes were living near there ca 1850? Or were > they KEIMEs? > > --- Cindy Kimes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Rec'd a copy of William's obituary: > > > > KIMES > > William Sanford Kimes, 84, died at 7 o'clock Monday morning at > his > > home at 1315 Spy Run avenue. Born in Canton, O., he resided here > > for > > the past ten years. He was a retired lumberman, and was a member > > of > > the Methodist church. Survivors include the widow, Rebekah, now > > living in Bremen, Ind.; a daughter, Mrs. Flora Wagner of this > city; > > a > > brother, Edward Kimes living in Michigan; ten grandchildren and > 20 > > great-grandchildren. The body was removed to Mungovan & > > Sons'mortuary. Funeral services will be arranged later. > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Add'l research on William lists his birth - Dec 1849. Canton, OH, is in Stark Co... what KIMESes were living near there ca 1850? Or were they KEIMEs? --- Cindy Kimes <[email protected]> wrote: > > Rec'd a copy of William's obituary: > > KIMES > William Sanford Kimes, 84, died at 7 o'clock Monday morning at his > home at 1315 Spy Run avenue. Born in Canton, O., he resided here > for > the past ten years. He was a retired lumberman, and was a member > of > the Methodist church. Survivors include the widow, Rebekah, now > living in Bremen, Ind.; a daughter, Mrs. Flora Wagner of this city; > a > brother, Edward Kimes living in Michigan; ten grandchildren and 20 > great-grandchildren. The body was removed to Mungovan & > Sons'mortuary. Funeral services will be arranged later. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I don't know if this is what happened. A young couple moved into our neighborhood and attended the church I attend. I was excited and thought I had found a relative of my neighbor. The young man told me that they had traced their ancestry and that the name of his family back to the Civil War days was a different name. That his ancestor lived in a southern state and he disagreed with the south and in order to avoid being drafted he ran away and escaped to the northern states and changed his name and never changed it back to the correct name. Virginia Kimes Pierce [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

Rec'd a copy of William's obituary: KIMES William Sanford Kimes, 84, died at 7 o'clock Monday morning at his home at 1315 Spy Run avenue. Born in Canton, O., he resided here for the past ten years. He was a retired lumberman, and was a member of the Methodist church. Survivors include the widow, Rebekah, now living in Bremen, Ind.; a daughter, Mrs. Flora Wagner of this city; a brother, Edward Kimes living in Michigan; ten grandchildren and 20 great-grandchildren. The body was removed to Mungovan & Sons'mortuary. Funeral services will be arranged later. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Does anyone know of an Alfred KIME, b. Nov 1825 in Tennessee? Cindy Kimes <[email protected]> wrote: > >This isn't my line, but mysteries always intrigue me so I looked for >Alfred Ryan on the 1900 census where a descendant says he was living >and found he and Leanora in Indian Territory (later Oklahoma) in the >Cherokee Nation section: > >Ryan, Alfred Head W M Nov1825 74 M42 Tenn Vir Ind > Leanora Wife W F Jul1836 63 M42 4/1 Tenn Tenn Tenn > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

And then, of course, there is my family who seem to change their names at will to things seemingly unrelated to their original names, tho there must be a good reason in their minds. Go figure! In a message dated 4/1/2006, [email protected] writes: there are several reasons why one would change their name. they owed debts they couldn't pay so changed to another family name, there was a death in the family and all children were given to another family and their names were changed to that last name, feud took place among family so they disowned each other and changed their name. there were cases where an adoption took place when the eldest mentioned may have lost parents then he found out later what his real name was and took that name on. who knows? From: Cindy Kimes [email protected] ~ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:13:42 -0800 (PST) An old query from Mar 1997 states: >Alfred KIME-RYAN: A real mystery family! We have a Bible record showing the names, birth, marriage records of the Kime family who lived in Vernon Co MO at the beginning of the Civil War. Alfred KIME(s) married 12 Aug 1858 in Vernon Co MO to Leanner (Leanora), dau of William BETHELL and Margaret BRUCE. For some unknown reason, the entire family started using the name of RYAN between 1860/1870, and this name continued even through their relocation to Indian Territory in 1892 and deaths in Oklahoma. Does anyone know any possible reason for this change of names?

there are several reasons why one would change their name. they owed debts they couldn't pay so changed to another family name, there was a death in the family and all children were given to another family and their names were changed to that last name, feud took place among family so they disowned each other and changed their name. there were cases where an adoption took place when the eldest mentioned may have lost parents then he found out later what his real name was and took that name on. who knows? >From: Cindy Kimes <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [KEIM] Alfred KIME-RYAN; a real mystery family! >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:13:42 -0800 (PST) > >An old query from Mar 1997 states: > >Alfred KIME-RYAN: A real mystery family! We have a Bible record >showing the names, birth, marriage records of the Kime family who >lived in Vernon Co MO at the beginning of the Civil War. Alfred >KIME(s) married 12 Aug 1858 in Vernon Co MO to Leanner (Leanora), dau >of William BETHELL and Margaret BRUCE. For some unknown reason, the >entire family started using the name of RYAN between 1860/1870, and >this name continued even through their relocation to Indian Territory >in 1892 and deaths in Oklahoma. Does anyone know any possible reason >for this change of names? When Alfred KIME married Leanner BETHELL, >he had other children; (no sex indicated in bible records); C. E. >(b/7 Jan 1852); W. R. (b/8 Sep 1854); and S. L. (b/2 Apr 1856). >Alfred and Leanner's children were; Theadoshe Francis RYAN (b/24 Jul >1860); Margaret Ellen RYAN (b/30 May 1862); Averiler Easan RYAN (b/1 >Dec 1865); and Nora Belle RYAN (b/12 Jun 1871). Nora Belle is the >only member of this family that we have further information on; she >married Perry Davis Lewellen. >_________________________ > >This isn't my line, but mysteries always intrigue me so I looked for >Alfred Ryan on the 1900 census where a descendant says he was living >and found he and Leanora in Indian Territory (later Oklahoma) in the >Cherokee Nation section: > >Ryan, Alfred Head W M Nov1825 74 M42 Tenn Vir Ind > Leanora Wife W F Jul1836 63 M42 4/1 Tenn Tenn Tenn > > >From the census we note Nora Belle was the only child of Leanora's >still living (4/1). Perhaps the other three children died young. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== KEIM Mailing List ==== >For suggestions on where to post queries, go to: >http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/queries.html#Q2 > _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

An old query from Mar 1997 states: Alfred KIME-RYAN: A real mystery family! We have a Bible record showing the names, birth, marriage records of the Kime family who lived in Vernon Co MO at the beginning of the Civil War. Alfred KIME(s) married 12 Aug 1858 in Vernon Co MO to Leanner (Leanora), dau of William BETHELL and Margaret BRUCE. For some unknown reason, the entire family started using the name of RYAN between 1860/1870, and this name continued even through their relocation to Indian Territory in 1892 and deaths in Oklahoma. Does anyone know any possible reason for this change of names? When Alfred KIME married Leanner BETHELL, he had other children; (no sex indicated in bible records); C. E. (b/7 Jan 1852); W. R. (b/8 Sep 1854); and S. L. (b/2 Apr 1856). Alfred and Leanner's children were; Theadoshe Francis RYAN (b/24 Jul 1860); Margaret Ellen RYAN (b/30 May 1862); Averiler Easan RYAN (b/1 Dec 1865); and Nora Belle RYAN (b/12 Jun 1871). Nora Belle is the only member of this family that we have further information on; she married Perry Davis Lewellen. _________________________ This isn't my line, but mysteries always intrigue me so I looked for Alfred Ryan on the 1900 census where a descendant says he was living and found he and Leanora in Indian Territory (later Oklahoma) in the Cherokee Nation section: Ryan, Alfred Head W M Nov1825 74 M42 Tenn Vir Ind Leanora Wife W F Jul1836 63 M42 4/1 Tenn Tenn Tenn From the census we note Nora Belle was the only child of Leanora's still living (4/1). Perhaps the other three children died young. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I do not have any information that proves my 3rd great grandfather, Henry Kime (Heinrich Keim) who died in 1802 in Bath County, VA) is the son of Johannes Keim and Maria Elizabeth Bollerin. I am descended from this Henry Kime (Heinrich Keim) through his son, Valentine Kime, Sr., Valentine Kimes, Jr., David G. Kimes, and my father Joseph Leander Kimes. I would appreciate any proof of ancestry for my Henry Kime (Heinrich Keim). Virginia Kimes Pierce [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

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Yup... I looked at the censuses... couldn't find Peter/John Peter? listed alone and he wasn't living with any of those three. --- Jim Keim <[email protected]> wrote: > > The 1800 census shows Nicholas, George, and Samuel (but NO > Peter/John > Peter!), all in Quemahoning Twp in northern Somerset Co. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

_http://home.att.net/~edboots/or.htm#Williamsburg_ (http://home.att.net/~edboots/or.htm#Williamsburg) Series I - Vol. 11 - Chapter XXIII - Page 561 & 562 BATTLE OF WILLIAMSBURG, VA. No.58. Report of Brigadier General William H. Keim, U.S. Army, commanding Second Brigade. HDQRS. KEIM'S BRIGADE, CASEY'S DIVISION, Williamsburg, Va., May 8,1862. CAPTAIN: Owing to severe indisposition I followed my brigade slowly, it being in temporary command of Colonel Howell on May 5. When I arrived the Eighty-fifth Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers was in front, then the One hundred and third Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers, Major Gazzam commanding; next the One hundred and first Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers, Colonel Wilson. The Ninety-sixth Regiment New York Volunteers, Lieutenant-Colonel Gray commanding, had been ordered by General Sumner to protect the Eighth New York Battery and after the regular battery of Robertson. The brigade advanced to the support of General Palmer's brigade. The Eighty-fifth Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers, Colonel Howell, was in advance of General Palmer's brigade over the fence into the woods under a brisk fire of the enemy. At that time, when the fire was hot and heaviest, General Keyes rode up and addressed my brigade a few spirit-stirring remarks, who heartily cheered the general and resumed the work of destruction with more zeal. General Palmer being called off, I assumed command of the Ninety-second (Colonel Anderson's) and the Ninety-third (Lieutenant-Colonel Butler's) Regiments New York Volunteers. I ordered Colonel Howell to the front to relieve the Ninety-third Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers, who immediately encountered a sweeping fire, which was returned with spirit and effect. The One hundred and first Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers, Colonel Wilson, I ordered to the left of the clearing across the road as a reserve. The One hundred and third Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers, Major Gazzam commanding, was also ordered to the front, to support General Peck. I was assigned the command of the left, General Peck the center, and General Devens the right. About 5.30 the musketry fire had nearly ceased, the battery in front keeping up its fire until dark,two hours afterward. Taking into consideration that the men had only one day's rations since Sunday morning, no overcoats, woolen or gum blankets, they evinced a spirit of endurance and heroic courage worthy of veterans, and the men and officers are entitled to praise for their arduous and successful efforts. The troops remained under arms all night, rainy and unpleasant. I was with General Peck and General Couch during the night. Sounds were heard of cutting wood, and commands were given to "Forward, march," which induced a belief that the enemy were about evacuating. At daybreak I ordered a company of Colonel Howell's regiment to reconnoiter toward the fort. Everything appeared quiet, when some cavalry from Williamsburg rode downward into the fort, so they withdrew. After the cavalry left the fort the effort was renewed and were steadily advancing, when General Heintzelman rode up and ordered my men back, he entering the deserted forts first which my brigade had aided materially to conquer. My staff officers, Captain N.L. Jeffries, assistant adjutant-general, and Lieutenant Stewart, jr., aide-de-camp, rendered me efficient aid. The state of my health must be the apology for this imperfect report. Respectfully submitted. WM. H. KEIM, Brigadier-General, Commanding. Captain HENRY W. SMITH, Assistant Adjutant-General, Casey's Division.

_http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/BE.html_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/BE.html) Keim, George May (1805-1861) — of Pennsylvania. Born in Reading, _Berks County_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/BE.html#BORN) , Pa., _March 23, 1805_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/chrono/1805/03-23.html) . Uncle of _William High Keim_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/keene-keister.html#R9M0J2LJ2) . Democrat. _U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/ofc/usrep.html) 9th District, 1838-43; _mayor of Reading, Pa._ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/ofc/reading.html) , 1852. Died _June 10, 1861_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/chrono/1861/06-10.html) . Interment at _Charles Evans Cemetery_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/BE.html#R9M0JQWZ4) , Reading, Pa. * See also: _congressional biography_ (http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=K000050) . Keim, Noah G. — of _Randolph County_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/WV/RN.html#LIVED) , W.Va. Member of _West Virginia state senate_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/WV/ofc/stsen.html) 13th District, 1913-16. _Burial location unknown_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/inqa.html#Unknown) . Keim, William High (1813-1862) — of Pennsylvania. Born near Reading, _Berks County_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/BE.html#BORN) , Pa., _June 13, 1813_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/chrono/1813/06-13.html) . Nephew of _George May Keim_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/keene-keister.html#R9M0J2LFJ) . Democrat. _Mayor of Reading, Pa._ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/ofc/reading.html) , 1848; _U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/ofc/usrep.html) 8th District, 1858-59; general in the Union Army during the Civil War. _Died in the military service_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/death/civil-war.html) at Harrisburg, _Dauphin County_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/DA.html#DIED) , Pa., _May 18, 1862_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/chrono/1862/05-18.html) . Interment at _Charles Evans Cemetery_ (http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/PA/BE.html#R9M0JQWZ4) , Reading, Pa.

Following Mitzie's lineage & from the same branch of Heinrich Keim, our lineages diverge at the son of Jacob Kimes & Sarah Hicks. Mitzie's husband Chase & I are 3rd cousins. I am absolutely sure of my Kimes lineage from here forward. Prior to that is supposition & possibilities/probabilities, as yet not documented enough for proof. Abraham Kimes & Nancy Evans are my 3xgreat-grandparents. Jacob Kimes & Sarah Hicks are my 2xgreat-grandparents. Their son (& brother to Mitzie's Scott Winfield Kimes) is Abraham John Kimes (1858 OH - 1946 NE) m Daisy Dean Morton (1875 NE - 1939 NE), who are my great-grandparents; their daughter Bertha Ellen Kimes (1892 NE - 1982 IA) m William Alvin Brown (1889 NE - 1946 IA), my maternal grandparents; their daughter Doris Elaine Brown (1923 NE - living still at age 83) m Carl Jens Hansen Eldhardt (1921 NE - 1994 IA), my parents. I am their middle of 3 daughters. My maiden name is Sharon Elaine Eldhardt (married surname now Sherman), born 1947 WA & obviously still living tho some days are questionable. I have 2 daughters, 1 son and 7 grandchildren. For the newer Keim/Kimes researchers, I need to establish that the lineage prior to Heinrich is in question. Many of us in this lineage are suspect of which Heinrich exactly we descended from. It has not been proven that our Heinrich is a son of The American Founder Johannes Hans Keim. I have been researching all my genealogy lines for nigh onto 40 yrs now & still am always thrilled to have new relatives find me. Also always willing to share info & learn from others.

So we're all on the same page then, the referred to JOHN PETER KEIM is: possibly the grandson of The American Founder Johannes Hans Keim; thru his possible son Johannes Peter Keim; to his possible son JOHANN PETER KEIM (b 1743/45) <- THIS ONE. His son then is the Nicholas Keim (b 1768 - d 1830) who married 3 times (Stutzman, Hostetler & Eash/Ash). Recognizing that the 2 above possible ancestors of Johann Peter Keim (b 1743/45) is definitely in question, is this the correct one? And is that what you're trying to establish, if at all possible - the origins of JOHN PETER KEIM (b 1743/45)? Sherry in Colorado In a message dated 3/26/2006, [email protected] writes: Perhaps this statement better identifies WHICH John Peter Keim we're going to be discussing: John Peter Keim, father of Nicholas Keim, was born 1745. [Nicholas Keim, b. 1768]

Johannes Keim (abt 1675 Germany - 1753) m. Maria Elizabeth Bollerin Heinrich Keim (1732 PA-1802) m. Anna Catharina Reber Abraham Kimes (1790 VA-1840) (Notice spelling change) m. Nancy Evans Jacob Kimes (1817 OH-1901) m. Sarah Hicks Scott Winfield Kimes (1845 OH-1918) m. Malinda Guffy Lester Lee Kimes (1872 NE-1953) m. Myrtle Miller Leo Gilbert Kimes (1904 NE-1969) m. Carrie Erma Chase Kay Chase Kimes (1928 NE- ) m. Martha Louise "Mitzie" Campbell (Me) 2 sons 3 grandsons I have been a collector/researcher since about the beginning of KEIM-L. And have over 16000 individuals in my Keim/Kyme/Kime/Kimes (and descendants) files. With lots of missing links..... I have also collected; My husbands line Chase, my line Campbell, Spencer, Culp So glad others have been posting their linage... Thanks Mitzie (Campbell) Kimes

Yes, that's the one! Wouldn't it be nice if someone would "come forward" with some as yet not published information to identify John Peter Keim's true ancestry! I'm just hopeful we can MAYBE resolve some of the false statements passed around about him. In my data files where I "stockpile" all the info you subscribers have shared on this list and information from other researchers, I have these several statements about our subject - John Peter Keim. Perhaps rather than toss them out one at a time, it would be better to list them all. More About JOHANN PETER KEIM: Name 2: (John) Peter Keim Name 3: John Peter Keim Name 4: Peter Keim Date born 1: ca 1743 Date born 2: 1734, Baden, Germany Date born 3: 1736 - 1745 Date born 4: 1741 Date born 5: ca 1745, Oley, Philadelphia Co, PA Date born 6: Bef. 1746 Date born 7: Bef. 1751 Died 1: Aft. 07 August 1798 Died 2: Aft. 1781 Died 3: April 1787, near Reading, Berks Co, PA Immigration: 31 August 1750 Migration: later moved to East Nantmeal Twp, Chester Co PA Residence 1: 1767, Western District Twp, Berks Co, PA Residence 2: Elk Lick, Somerset Co PA Residence 3: West Pikeland Twp, Chester Co, PA Residence 4: 1772, Colebrookdale Twp, Berks Co, PA Residence 5: Aft. 1772, Chester Spring, Chester Co, PA NOW, does anyone see a statement they KNOW is false? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com