FYI - Kaylor List...old to Kaler list.... Ah, we have some deep researching to do here, or should I say the descendants of John Kaylor and Catherine Haines do. That isn't me :-) but I am anxious to see how this pans out. Please keep me and the List posted. One thing not brought up here...there seems to be evidence in Pike Co. IL that Catherine Kaylor died there contrary to other research. Can anyone document that for sure? We have some Pike Co. IL Kaylor researchers on this list, do we not? Let's hear from you. Mary Ann >Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:44:57 -0800 (PST) >From: "kkesler" <kkesler@wans.net> >Old-To: "KAYLOR RootsWeb List" <KALER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:37:43 -0500 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 >Subject: [KALER] Re:KAYLORS IN VIRGINIA AND OHIO >To: KALER-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: KALER-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <KALER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/392 >X-Loop: KALER-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Dorothy; >I don't mean to "stir up the pot" and run on this John & Catherine Haines >issue but,,,, >I am looking for information on the same families you appear to be. >I have a story in my notes somewhere that John adopted a son. I can't find >the information now & unfortunately I won't be in a situation for a few >weeks to do more work on this. But I think I also have a newspaper article >that also tells of a boy committing suicide at John's farm. Again, I need >to dig it out of the safe. So don't hold me to it. Just remind me in a >few weeks about it. :-) > >As you can see I'm coming in at the end of some discussion that was going on >about John & Catherine (Haines). >I have not found any first sources yet that show that John & Catherine >(Haines) went to Ross & / or Preble County. >I realize there is a Book that says that there is a John that goes to Ross >county, OH. But I know of other books that say Preble. I don't know if >these "John's" are even the same person or if just one branch has slipped a >bit. >But I am very interested in really digging out the answers. ( Would the >real John Kaylor please stand up) >I'm not meaning to step on anyone's toes and I'm not in any position to sit >in judgement on who's story is correct. But the facts so far seem to look >like this: > >1. We have 2 John Kaylors'. >2. Both seem to be married to Catherine (Haines) >3. Both born in Rockingham County, Virginia @ 1776 >4. then it gets interesting, > Could they still be related? Who knows. > But, both stories have John going to Ohio >5. As close as I can get it, both Johns & Catherines die in Ohio. > (The Preble County John & Catherine's burial locations are known, >I'm not sure of the Ross County) > {Yes I know this doesn't count as a first hand source} > >So, Does that seem about right? > >We should be able to work backwards and get this resolved. >I admit though that I'm in no position to do this. >I get to work on the family tree about 2 hours a month! >So if you wait for me it will be a while. :-) > >OK, then I'll be back in a few weeks to read all of the results. > >Start your researchers! > >Have a great day! > >Kyle Kesler >Cary, NC > > >BTW, where can you get a copy of this Book on the KAYLOR's? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mary Ann Kaylor <makaylor@npwt.net> >To: KALER-L@rootsweb.com <KALER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 12:16 PM >Subject: Re: [KALER] Re: KAYLORS IN VIRGINIA AND OHIO > > > >Attention Leslie (again :-): > > > >Hi again, > >I goofed and sent the second message from Billie first. Sorry about > >that! Now it appears my Family sheet on John and Catherine Haines Kaylor, > >could be correct. Again, I stress, one must document, if this is your > >lineage, to verify the correctness of either lineage that has been offered. > > > >Billie has been in this about 4 years longer than I and I respect her work > >over the years for the Kaylors'. She has more info on the VA Kaylor's than > >I do. But the door is always open for both of us to accept new ideas and > >approaches and lineage! If you have another approach to this, let us hear > >from you. > > > >Mary Ann > > > >At 10:50 AM 01/19/2000 -0500, Billie R. Lewis wrote: > >>I have been researching my husband's Kaylors for over thirty years and > >>in my files I found the following from a letter. Of course, I can not > >>verify the accuracy but feel the writer knew her ancestry. She said > >>"My John married 'Katy'Haines and moved to Ross County, Ohio and had > >>17 children." She went on to say that John's father was Michael > >>Kaylor. She sent me a chart,according to her letter, but I fail to > >>find it. I also find that a Michael Dohler and Metheus koehler with > >>Johannes Kiler arrived on the ship "Britania" in Philadelphia on 26 > >>October, 1767 and according to the book KAYLOR GENEALOGY by P.C. > >>Kaylor (who is considered the authority on the Rockingham Co. Va. > >>Kaylors) Michael Dohler was actually Michael Kohler/Kaylor. All three > >>men settled in Augusta County, Virginia. Michal settled abour "four > >>miles north east of mcGaheysville near the 'Peaked Mountain.'" He > >>goes on to imply that Michael and John (Johannes) were brothers and > >>that Johannes "was the father of seventeen children; some born > >>inVrginia, the others in Ohio. It is supposed that Johannes Kohler > >>migrated from Botetourt County (Va) in the fall of 1799, landed in > >>Ohio on section 13, Township 3, Range 4, in November. > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Mary Ann Kaylor <makaylor@npwt.net> > >>To: KALER-L@rootsweb.com <KALER-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 11:07 PM > >>Subject: [KALER] Re: KAYLORS IN VIRGINIA AND OHIO > >> > >> > >> >Dorothy, > >> > > >> >Ah, yes, I have heard of John Kaylor and Catherine Haines in my 26 > >>years of > >> >research. I have a partial family sheet for them but it sure doesn't > >>sound > >> >like the same family? Only thing familiar is the spouse - Catherine > >>Haines. > >> >I am going to post this to the Kaylor Mail List and maybe someone can > >>help > >> >us sort out the difference here. I know we have some Pike Co IL > >>Kaylor's on > >> >the List. We even have different Counties in OH. Not sure, without > >>looking > >> >, where Ross Co. is in relation to Preble Co.? Some of my sources > >>say the > >> >IGI at Family History Library. > >> > > >> >John Kaylor b 1772 VA; d 1843 Ross Co. OH; > >> > m 1804 Catherine Haines b 12 Jul 1789; d 7 May 1867 > >>Pike Co IL > >> >Children: > >> >1-George - b 21 Mar 1812 MD; d 3 Dec 1902 Pike Co., IL; m 25 Dec 1836 > >>Ross > >> >Co. OH Lydia HULL > >> >2-Mary Ann - b 21 Oct 1814 MD; d 6 Apr 1900 Pike Co., IL; m 20 Apr > >>1836 > >> >Ross Co OH Levin HULL > >> >3-Jacob - b 16 Apr 1818 Alleghany Co MD (or 22 Dec 1817 MD); d 4 Mar > >>1900 > >> >Macon Co IL > >> > m Rachel STREET 28 Jan 1841 Ross Co. OH > >> >4-Lewis F - m 25 Jan 1852 Pike Co. IL Mary S. Shelton > >> >5David - b 24 May 1824 Alleghany Co. MD; d 16 Apr 1886 Pike Co IL; > >> > m 10 Jun 1852 Mary Elizabeth Browning in Pike Co IL > >> >6-Samuel - b 2 Sep 1831 OH; m 20 Nov 1854 Pike Co IL Eleanor Bradbury > >> >7-Thomas - b 19 Sep 1833 Ross Co OH; d 30 Sep 1923 Pike Co IL; m 5 > >>Oct 1865 > >> >Pike Co IL Maria McLaughlin > >> >8-Nicholas - b 1835 Ross Co OH; m 26 Mar 1868 Adams Co IL Nancy > >>Cratts > >> >9-Hannah - m 22 Jan 1835 Ross Co OH William Hall Hankins > >> >10-Malinda > >> >11-Abner > >> >12-John Lee > >> >13- Jane - m Willis Guy > >> > > >> >So everyone, what do you think compared to what Dorothy sent below? > >> > > >> >Mary Ann > >> >-------------------------- > >> > > >> >At 09:25 PM 01/18/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >> >>Mary Ann, > >> >> > >> >>Thanks for your response. > >> >> > >> >>The Kaylor line is not one of my direct lines, but I have Kesling > >>family > >> >>who married into the Kaylor line. My main purpose in writing you > >>is: > >> >>my grandfather, Leora Noakes, was raised by the family of John J. > >>Kaylor > >> >>near Eaton, Preble County, Ohio. When Leora's mother died his > >>father > >> >>left him with this Kaylor family. Leora's father, Thomas E. Noakes, > >>has > >> >>been a difficult find. (Which I know means I just haven't looked in > >>the > >> >>right place yet) I was hoping you had some Kaylor information that > >> >>mentioned Leora. > >> >> > >> >>There are many Kaylor/Kayler families in the Eaton area. I have the > >> >>History of Preble County, Ohio which states "John Kayler was born in > >> >>Rockingham County, Virginia in 1776. In 1799 he maried Catharine > >> >>Haynes, born in 1782. He emigrated to Ohio in 1814. ...... He died > >>in > >> >>1859. Their sons were John Frederick, Benjamin and William. John > >> >>Frederick married Barbara Christman, a Carolinaan. William married > >> >>Rebecca Delawter, who had come to Ohio from Maryland in 1822." > >> >> > >> >>John J. was the son of William and Rebecca. In 1875 he married > >>Sarah V. > >> >>Dalrymple. > >> >> > >> >>Given names of Kaylers listed in this history are: Barbara, > >>Benjamin, > >> >>Catharine, Fohn F. (yes, that Fohn - I thought it must be a > >>misprint, > >> >>but it is spelled that way each time listed), John A., John > >>Frederick, > >> >>John J., Lydia Ann, Rebecca, Sarah V., William, E.H., Eben, J.A., > >>J.H., > >> >>John C. > >> >> > >> >>If any of these names mean anything to you, I will be happy to copy > >>what > >> >>is listed in the "History and Biography - Preble County Historical > >> >>Society" 1881. Although often the mention is only slight. > >> >> > >> >>Preble County is in the southwest corner of Ohio, close to Dayton, > >>which > >> >>is in Montgomery County. > >> >> > >> >>Here's to our searches. > >> >>Dorothy > > > >==== KALER Mailing List ==== >Let's each contribute something towards making more genealogical resources >available on the Internet. I am a >proud sponsor of Rootsweb. 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