Hi, Correction from Billie in FL re a mispelled word in the ongoing research of John Kaylor and Catherine Haines. Remember the message that John had a brother Abraham on yesterdays list. Mary Ann >There is a misspelled word. It should read JOHANNES KOHLER >rather than Kiler. >Billie in Florida > >Subject: Re: [KALER] Re:KAYLORS IN VIRGINIA AND OHIO > > > >At 10:50 AM 01/19/2000 -0500, Billie R. Lewis wrote: > >I have been researching my husband's Kaylors for over thirty years >and > >in my files I found the following from a letter. Of course, I can not > >verify the accuracy but feel the writer knew her ancestry. She said > >"My John married 'Katy'Haines and moved to Ross County, Ohio and had > >17 children." She went on to say that John's father was Michael > >Kaylor. She sent me a chart,according to her letter, but I fail to > >find it. I also find that a Michael Dohler and Metheus koehler with > >Johannes Kiler arrived on the ship "Britania" in Philadelphia on 26 > >October, 1767 and according to the book KAYLOR GENEALOGY by P.C. > >Kaylor (who is considered the authority on the Rockingham Co. Va. > >Kaylors) Michael Dohler was actually Michael Kohler/Kaylor. All three > >men settled in Augusta County, Virginia. Michal settled abour "four > >miles north east of mcGaheysville near the 'Peaked Mountain.'" He > >goes on to imply that Michael and John (Johannes) were brothers and > >that Johannes "was the father of seventeen children; some born > >inVrginia, the others in Ohio. It is supposed that Johannes Kohler > >migrated from Botetourt County (Va) in the fall of 1799, landed in > >Ohio on section 13, Township 3, Range 4, in November > >> > >> >FYI - Kaylor List...old to Kaler list.... > >> > Ah, we have some deep researching to do here, or should I say >the > >> >descendants of John Kaylor and Catherine Haines do. That isn't >me > >>:-) but > >> >I am anxious to see how this pans out. Please keep me and the >List > >> >posted. One thing not brought up here...there seems to be >evidence > >>in Pike > >> >Co. IL that Catherine Kaylor died there contrary to other >research. > >>Can > >> >anyone document that for sure? We have some Pike Co. IL Kaylor > >>researchers > >> >on this list, do we not? Let's hear from you. > >> > > >> >Mary Ann > >> > > >> > > >> >>Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:44:57 -0800 (PST) > >> >>From: "kkesler" <kkesler@wans.net> > >> >>Old-To: "KAYLOR RootsWeb List" <KALER-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:37:43 -0500 > >> >>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 > >> >>Subject: [KALER] Re:KAYLORS IN VIRGINIA AND OHIO > >> >>To: KALER-L@rootsweb.com > >> >>Resent-From: KALER-L@rootsweb.com > >> >>X-Mailing-List: <KALER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/392 > >> >>X-Loop: KALER-L@rootsweb.com > >> >>Resent-Sender: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> >> > >> >>Dorothy; > >> >>I don't mean to "stir up the pot" and run on this John & >Catherine > >>Haines > >> >>issue but,,,, > >> >>I am looking for information on the same families you appear to >be. > >> >>I have a story in my notes somewhere that John adopted a son. I > >>can't find > >> >>the information now & unfortunately I won't be in a situation for >a > >>few > >> >>weeks to do more work on this. But I think I also have a >newspaper > >>article > >> >>that also tells of a boy committing suicide at John's farm. >Again, > >>I need > >> >>to dig it out of the safe. So don't hold me to it. Just remind >me > >>in a > >> >>few weeks about it. :-) > >> >> > >> >>As you can see I'm coming in at the end of some discussion that >was > >>going on > >> >>about John & Catherine (Haines). > >> >>I have not found any first sources yet that show that John & > >>Catherine > >> >>(Haines) went to Ross & / or Preble County. > >> >>I realize there is a Book that says that there is a John that >goes > >>to Ross > >> >>county, OH. But I know of other books that say Preble. I don't > >>know if > >> >>these "John's" are even the same person or if just one branch has > >>slipped a > >> >>bit. > >> >>But I am very interested in really digging out the answers. > Would > >>the > >> >>real John Kaylor please stand up) > >> >>I'm not meaning to step on anyone's toes and I'm not in any >position > >>to sit > >> >>in judgement on who's story is correct. But the facts so far >seem > >>to look > >> >>like this: > >> >> > >> >>1. We have 2 John Kaylors'. > >> >>2. Both seem to be married to Catherine (Haines) > >> >>3. Both born in Rockingham County, Virginia @ 1776 > >> >>4. then it gets interesting, > >> >> Could they still be related? Who knows. > >> >> But, both stories have John going to Ohio > >> >>5. As close as I can get it, both Johns & Catherines die in >Ohio. > >> >> (The Preble County John & Catherine's burial locations >are > >>known, > >> >>I'm not sure of the Ross County) > >> >> {Yes I know this doesn't count as a first hand source} > >> >> > >> >>So, Does that seem about right? > >> >> > >> >>We should be able to work backwards and get this resolved. > >> >>I admit though that I'm in no position to do this. > >> >>I get to work on the family tree about 2 hours a month! > >> >>So if you wait for me it will be a while. :-) > >> >> > >> >>OK, then I'll be back in a few weeks to read all of the results. > >> >> > >> >>Start your researchers! > >> >> > >> >>Have a great day! > >> >> > >> >>Kyle Kesler > >> >>Cary, NC > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>BTW, where can you get a copy of this Book on the KAYLOR's? > >> >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- > >> >>From: Mary Ann Kaylor <makaylor@npwt.net> > >> >>To: KALER-L@rootsweb.com <KALER-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >>Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 12:16 PM > >> >>Subject: Re: [KALER] Re: KAYLORS IN VIRGINIA AND OHIO > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Attention Leslie (again :-): > >> >> > > >> >> >Hi again, > >> >> >I goofed and sent the second message from Billie first. Sorry > >>about > >> >> >that! Now it appears my Family sheet on John and Catherine >Haines > >>Kaylor, > >> >> >could be correct. Again, I stress, one must document, if this >is > >>your > >> >> >lineage, to verify the correctness of either lineage that has >been > >>offered. > >> >> > > >> >> >Billie has been in this about 4 years longer than I and I >respect > >>her work > >> >> >over the years for the Kaylors'. She has more info on the VA > >>Kaylor's than > >> >> >I do. But the door is always open for both of us to accept new > >>ideas and > >> >> >approaches and lineage! If you have another approach to this, >let > >>us hear > >> >> >from you. > >> >> > > >> >> >Mary Ann > >> >> > > >> >> >At 10:50 AM 01/19/2000 -0500, Billie R. Lewis wrote: > >> >> >>I have been researching my husband's Kaylors for over thirty > >>years and > >> >> >>in my files I found the following from a letter. Of course, I > >>can not > >> >> >>verify the accuracy but feel the writer knew her ancestry. >She > >>said > >> >> >>"My John married 'Katy'Haines and moved to Ross County, Ohio >and > >>had > >> >> >>17 children." She went on to say that John's father was >Michael > >> >> >>Kaylor. She sent me a chart,according to her letter, but I >fail > >>to > >> >> >>find it. I also find that a Michael Dohler and Metheus >koehler > >>with > >> >> >>Johannes Kiler arrived on the ship "Britania" in Philadelphia >on > >>26 > >> >> >>October, 1767 and according to the book KAYLOR GENEALOGY by >P.C. > >> >> >>Kaylor (who is considered the authority on the Rockingham Co. >Va. > >> >> >>Kaylors) Michael Dohler was actually Michael Kohler/Kaylor. >All > >>three > >> >> >>men settled in Augusta County, Virginia. Michal settled abour > >>"four > >> >> >>miles north east of mcGaheysville near the 'Peaked Mountain.'" > >>He > >> >> >>goes on to imply that Michael and John (Johannes) were >brothers > >>and > >> >> >>that Johannes "was the father of seventeen children; some born > >> >> >>inVrginia, the others in Ohio. It is supposed that Johannes > >>Kohler > >> >> >>migrated from Botetourt County (Va) in the fall of 1799, >landed > >>in > >> >> >>Ohio on section 13, Township 3, Range 4, in November. > >> >> >>-----Original Message----- > >> >> >>From: Mary Ann Kaylor <makaylor@npwt.net> > >> >> >>To: KALER-L@rootsweb.com <KALER-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >> >>Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 11:07 PM > >> >> >>Subject: [KALER] Re: KAYLORS IN VIRGINIA AND OHIO > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Dorothy, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Ah, yes, I have heard of John Kaylor and Catherine Haines in >my > >>26 > >> >> >>years of > >> >> >> >research. I have a partial family sheet for them but it >sure > >>doesn't > >> >> >>sound > >> >> >> >like the same family? Only thing familiar is the spouse - > >>Catherine > >> >> >>Haines. > >> >> >> >I am going to post this to the Kaylor Mail List and maybe > >>someone can > >> >> >>help > >> >> >> >us sort out the difference here. I know we have some Pike Co >IL > >> >> >>Kaylor's on > >> >> >> >the List. We even have different Counties in OH. Not sure, > >>without > >> >> >>looking > >> >> >> >, where Ross Co. is in relation to Preble Co.? Some of my > >>sources > >> >> >>say the > >> >> >> >IGI at Family History Library. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >John Kaylor b 1772 VA; d 1843 Ross Co. OH; > >> >> >> > m 1804 Catherine Haines b 12 Jul 1789; d 7 >May > >>1867 > >> >> >>Pike Co IL > >> >> >> >Children: > >> >> >> >1-George - b 21 Mar 1812 MD; d 3 Dec 1902 Pike Co., IL; m 25 > >>Dec 1836 > >> >> >>Ross > >> >> >> >Co. OH Lydia HULL > >> >> >> >2-Mary Ann - b 21 Oct 1814 MD; d 6 Apr 1900 Pike Co., IL; m >20 > >>Apr > >> >> >>1836 > >> >> >> >Ross Co OH Levin HULL > >> >> >> >3-Jacob - b 16 Apr 1818 Alleghany Co MD (or 22 Dec 1817 MD); >d > >>4 Mar > >> >> >>1900 > >> >> >> >Macon Co IL > >> >> >> > m Rachel STREET 28 Jan 1841 Ross Co. OH > >> >> >> >4-Lewis F - m 25 Jan 1852 Pike Co. IL Mary S. Shelton > >> >> >> >5David - b 24 May 1824 Alleghany Co. MD; d 16 Apr 1886 Pike >Co > >>IL; > >> >> >> > m 10 Jun 1852 Mary Elizabeth Browning in Pike Co >IL > >> >> >> >6-Samuel - b 2 Sep 1831 OH; m 20 Nov 1854 Pike Co IL Eleanor > >>Bradbury > >> >> >> >7-Thomas - b 19 Sep 1833 Ross Co OH; d 30 Sep 1923 Pike Co >IL; > >>m 5 > >> >> >>Oct 1865 > >> >> >> >Pike Co IL Maria McLaughlin > >> >> >> >8-Nicholas - b 1835 Ross Co OH; m 26 Mar 1868 Adams Co IL >Nancy > >> >> >>Cratts > >> >> >> >9-Hannah - m 22 Jan 1835 Ross Co OH William Hall Hankins > >> >> >> >10-Malinda > >> >> >> >11-Abner > >> >> >> >12-John Lee > >> >> >> >13- Jane - m Willis Guy > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >So everyone, what do you think compared to what Dorothy sent > >>below? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Mary Ann > >> >> >> >-------------------------- > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >At 09:25 PM 01/18/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >> >> >> >>Mary Ann, > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Thanks for your response. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>The Kaylor line is not one of my direct lines, but I have > >>Kesling > >> >> >>family > >> >> >> >>who married into the Kaylor line. My main purpose in >writing > >>you > >> >> >>is: > >> >> >> >>my grandfather, Leora Noakes, was raised by the family of >John > >>J. > >> >> >>Kaylor > >> >> >> >>near Eaton, Preble County, Ohio. When Leora's mother died >his > >> >> >>father > >> >> >> >>left him with this Kaylor family. Leora's father, Thomas >E. > >>Noakes, > >> >> >>has > >> >> >> >>been a difficult find. (Which I know means I just haven't > >>looked in > >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >>right place yet) I was hoping you had some Kaylor >information > >>that > >> >> >> >>mentioned Leora. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>There are many Kaylor/Kayler families in the Eaton area. I > >>have the > >> >> >> >>History of Preble County, Ohio which states "John Kayler >was > >>born in > >> >> >> >>Rockingham County, Virginia in 1776. In 1799 he maried > >>Catharine > >> >> >> >>Haynes, born in 1782. He emigrated to Ohio in 1814. ...... >He > >>died > >> >> >>in > >> >> >> >>1859. Their sons were John Frederick, Benjamin and >William. > >>John > >> >> >> >>Frederick married Barbara Christman, a Carolinaan. William > >>married > >> >> >> >>Rebecca Delawter, who had come to Ohio from Maryland in >1822." > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>John J. was the son of William and Rebecca. In 1875 he > >>married > >> >> >>Sarah V. > >> >> >> >>Dalrymple. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Given names of Kaylers listed in this history are: >Barbara, > >> >> >>Benjamin, > >> >> >> >>Catharine, Fohn F. (yes, that Fohn - I thought it must be a > >> >> >>misprint, > >> >> >> >>but it is spelled that way each time listed), John A., John > >> >> >>Frederick, > >> >> >> >>John J., Lydia Ann, Rebecca, Sarah V., William, E.H., Eben, > >>J.A., > >> >> >>J.H., > >> >> >> >>John C. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>If any of these names mean anything to you, I will be happy >to > >>copy > >> >> >>what > >> >> >> >>is listed in the "History and Biography - Preble County > >>Historical > >> >> >> >>Society" 1881. Although often the mention is only slight. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Preble County is in the southwest corner of Ohio, close to > >>Dayton, > >> >> >>which > >> >> >> >>is in Montgomery County. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Here's to our searches. > >> >> >> >>Dorothy > >> >> - ------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.htm KAYLOR & TEDROW lineages to be added soon KAYLOR MAIL LIST To subscribe: KAYLOR-L-request@rootsweb.com KAYLOR GenConnect Cluster Boards http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/queries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/bible_records http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/biographies http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/deeds http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/obituaries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/pensions http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/wills KALER MAIL LIST To subscribe: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com TEDROW MAIL LIST To subscribe: TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com