> > >============================================================ >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >============================================================ >Source: ARSEBAST-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ARSebast] Roll Call > > >Searching for following surnames in AR >1st line - Harden, Coon, Parker, Cesar in AR from about 1870. >2nd line - Berry, Kaylor, Bonner, Doshier in AR from about 1840. >3rd line - Martin, Voyles, Trout, Sharp in AR from about 1840. >4th line - Shoopman, Hammond. in AR around 1860. >5th line- Johnson, Harlan, Casey, and Tucker in AR from 1840. > >Would love to find more cousins, >Clarice >

FYI - England and Kaylor marriage below Mary Ann >============================================================ >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >============================================================ >Source: GC-McDowell Co. NC Query Forum >URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/McDowell?read=455 >Subject: William Rheinhart England > > >Surname: England >------------------------- > >Looking for descendants for William Rheinhart England aka bill. (b. feb >2 1846- d. oct. 18 1920) He married Elizabeth Swan Mashburn Resided in >Mcdowell County all of his life as best we can tell. > >Known Children are John Wesley England, James England, Mary Elizabeth England, >Nancy England, Samuel England, Joseph England, Henry England and Floyd >England. > >We know that John Wesley(b. 4/12/1867-d. 1/17/1946) married Margaret Alice >Kaylor. > >Any information will be greatly appreciated. > >Thank you > >Karen - ------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.htm KAYLOR & TEDROW lineages included In IL - Morgan Area Genealogical Ass. & Waverly GS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html KAYLOR MAIL LIST To subscribe: KAYLOR-L-request@rootsweb.com KAYLOR GenConnect Cluster Boards http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/queries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/bible_records http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/biographies http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/deeds http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/obituaries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/pensions http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/wills KALER MAIL LIST To subscribe: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com TEDROW MAIL LIST To subscribe: TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlena Baker" <lanieapple@yahoo.com> To: <Kohler-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 31 March 2000 Subject: {not a subscriber} Valentine Kohler > Wasn't there someone a while back that was asking > about a Valentine Kohler? I found one on the Cook > County Coroners Index that died on 11-12-1887. > I found using the global surname search on the state > archives site. > http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/surnamesrch

FYI - This is in NJ, a new State for a Kaylor, at least for me <g> Mary Ann >============================================================ >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >============================================================ >Source: NJWARREN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NJWARREN] Researching KAYLOR-KALOR > > > > > Looking for information on George Henry Kaylor who married >Margaret > DeKlyn Turner in 1824.Children were: George Henry b.1838 m. Josephine Ditmar > or Titus; Caroline Virginia Lafayette b.1832 m.Andrew Winters; Mary > Elizabeth > b.1831 m. John Effner. > There is also a grave somewhere in Hackettstown that has a Major >Kaylor, > 1812 listed. The story of Hackettstown by Nunn page 66 talks about > Decoration > Day, Friday,May30th,1879.The graves of 23 fallen comrades were decorated >that day.It says Civil War veterans carrying the old battle flag,of the >11th Pennsylvania > Regiment left the M.E. Church and proceeded to the graveyard and cemetery. >They > placed their tokens of respect upon the graves. Does anyone know what >cemetery > this is or is there a list for Veteran soldiers? Are graves still > decorated? > The graves that were decorated were: David Ayers,1776; > Ezekiel >Ayers,1776; James Sutton,1812; Col. Alexander Reading,1812; James Fisher,1812; >Caleb H. Valentine,1812; Mary Ackley,1812; John H. Youngblood Sr.,1812; >Major >Kaylor,1812; Joseph Allen; T.T. Hazen; Martin Dickson; Nathan Smith; >Woodhull Ammerman; August Schmeal; William Willever; Isaiah Demond; Dr. >Bowlby; John Lambert; John Cougle; Capt. David M. Trimmer; Nicholas Bilby; >& Lewis Hamilton. >There are no dates for ones that weren't given. If anyone has information I >would >like to hear from you. > > Nancy Giaretti islandwins@aol.com - ------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.htm KAYLOR & TEDROW lineages included In IL - Morgan Area Genealogical Ass. & Waverly GS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html KAYLOR MAIL LIST To subscribe: KAYLOR-L-request@rootsweb.com KAYLOR GenConnect Cluster Boards http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/queries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/bible_records http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/biographies http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/deeds http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/obituaries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/pensions http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/wills KALER MAIL LIST To subscribe: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com TEDROW MAIL LIST To subscribe: TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com

FYI - Mary Ann >============================================================ >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >============================================================ >Source: PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAWESTMO-L] WALTON/SAXMAN > > >Jean, > >When looking at my Walton stuff I noticed that you wrote that Mary Walton was >born in 1843. If that is that case how could she have had Nancy in 1845 and >David in 1865? Is the 1843 a marriage date? Or is Nancy's 1845 birthdate >incorrect since David wasn't born until 1865, 20 years later? Is the >1865-1875 for David his birth and death dates or a range of years in which he >may have been born? > >All questions aside -- if you have a Walton ancestor we will probably end up >being related in one way or another. There were a lot of them! How did you >find out you had a Walton ancestor? I have a book 'Byberry Walton's, Book >II.' It has too many Mary Waltons to go through without more specifics. >There is no Jacob Kaylor. However, there are two Joseph Kaylors. One has no >spouse or siblings or dates listed. The other has a spouse and children but >they do not correspond to your names. There are no dates listed for him >either. All of the people back then seemed to marry brothers and sisters and >cousins of some sort. The book is a compilation of research submitted by >family members So if they are not in this book it only means that no one >submitted that information in time for the printing of this book. > >Try contacting: Cyndy Walton-Bongers, 466 West Street Road, Kennett Square, >PA 19348, Phone: 610-268-0267. She is corresponding secretary for the BBW >[Byberry Waltons organization] They have a web site that Cyndy oversees. I >think you can contact her through the site. It is: >http://www.mindspring.com/~jb_cw/waltons.htm > >PAT - ------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.htm KAYLOR & TEDROW lineages included In IL - Morgan Area Genealogical Ass. & Waverly GS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html KAYLOR MAIL LIST To subscribe: KAYLOR-L-request@rootsweb.com KAYLOR GenConnect Cluster Boards http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/queries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/bible_records http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/biographies http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/deeds http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/obituaries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/pensions http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/wills KALER MAIL LIST To subscribe: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com TEDROW MAIL LIST To subscribe: TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com

-- Forwarded Message -- From: "Judy Bivens" <bivens12@swbell.net> To: <KOHLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 9:56 AM Subject: [Kohler] Kohler > Hi all, > I posted to this list some time ago and had no luck but maybe some new ones have > joined or some old ones have some more information. > My greatgrandmother was Justina(marriage license lists it as Guistina) C D M > Kohler. She was born in Darmstadt Germany in 1846. She married Henry Guenther > in 1868 in Springfield County IL. The census shows them living close to some > Mombach's who my mother tells me were cousins. She doesn't know whether to > Henry or Justina. Either way If any one has any information, I would be > eternally grateful and will share what I have about Justinas family here is any > one is interested. > Judy

FYI Mary Ann >From: Richard Pettit <RaPettit@aol.com> >Subject: PML Search Result matching KAYLOR >X-Loop: pmlbounce@rootsweb.com > >============================================================ >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >============================================================ >Source: GC-Adams County, Il Query Forum >URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Adams?read=1737 >Subject: Newspapers 1880 > > >Surname: Baker, Chamberlain, Cook, Jeffers, Kaylor, Loylel, Metz, Pettit, >Sparks, Taylor, Winner >------------------------- > >Was there any local newspapers that printed for the areas of Richfield, >Kingston, or Beverly for the time periods of 1870 thru 1890's. Looking >for any obits for Clarissa Pettit around Feb 7, 1879 and Alexander Pettit >past 1880 - ------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.htm KAYLOR & TEDROW lineages included In IL - Morgan Area Genealogical Ass. & Waverly GS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html KAYLOR MAIL LIST To subscribe: KAYLOR-L-request@rootsweb.com KAYLOR GenConnect Cluster Boards http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/queries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/bible_records http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/biographies http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/deeds http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/obituaries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/pensions http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/wills KALER MAIL LIST To subscribe: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com TEDROW MAIL LIST To subscribe: TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com

--- Forwarded Message --- From: "Kenneth Hodge" <khodge@gdi.net> To: <KAHLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Kahler] spellings Here are two additional spellings. This one was on some old documents from about 1820. June 5,1790; Frederick Kahler to George Crumley, both of Sullivan Co.; 60 pounds NC money for 100 acres on the south side of the Holston River on Weavers Creek with appurtenances; wit. by J. Hall; reg. June 14, 1790. (Sul. Co. deed list pg. 397) The actual deed shows the following spelling. I recently plotted Frederick Keiller's original 1787 tract which was divided into three parcels and sold to George Crumley, Able Edwards and Abraham Vanderventer in 1788. By plotting all four tracts, I was able to tie to the meandering Holston River in three places, thereby fixing the location of George Crumley's farm fairly accurately. BTW, the Crumley (originally Gramlich) name has more spellings than I can track. Ken

--- Forwarded Message --- >>> From: <SKIGODDEST@aol.com> >>> Subject: {not a subscriber} Hello Cousins > I am looking for: ANY INFORMATION on: > > 1' Elijah Jr Bunker born Feb 14 1978 at Barnstead NH 1880-1885 will county > Ill > he married > + Lydia Butterfield Nov 24 1825 at Wilton ME then had 2 issues > > 2.Jonas Butterfield Bunker B: 1827 Wilton, ME died: 1902 > will county > ill Married > + Elizabeth Hogan. in > will county ILL > + had 3 issues by Elizabeth Hogan.: > 3. Eli Bunker > 3 Amanda Bunker > 3. Moses Bunker B; 1897 will county Ill died: > 1979 Nevada, > Vernon County, MO +3 issues > +married Daisy Mae Keller b: Jan 4 1889 > in IN d: Nov 10 > 1957 Nevada, MO Vernon County. > 4.Claude b: 1922 > 4.Carl Moses 1924 > 4. Alphonzo D; 1990 > 2. Betsy Smith Bunker Born 1830 Wilton, ME 2nd issue of > Elijah, Jr., > Lydia Butterfield. Betsy married Robert Harris died > 1906 will county > Ill > > Parents of daisy Mae Keller are IDA may lane b; 1867 ILL > and William R. Keller born in IN > William vanished around 1900 with no trace leaving the grand parents to > raise the two sisters. > 2n issue of William is Irene Jane Keller she married a Satterlee > > Thank you for your help > Betty Jo

-- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Christina Coon Routt" <ancestry@woh.rr.com> > does anyone have any of these kellers in there keller families.looking for > more info. thanks christina > > Descendants of GEORG KELLER > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. GEORG1 KELLER was born Abt. 1790 in landau, germany; 0, and died July 23, > 1855 in landau, germany; 0. He married KATHARINA BARBARA DORSCH March 22, > 1816 in landau, germany; Quality: 0. > > Child of GEORG KELLER and KATHARINA DORSCH is: > > + 2 i. MICHAEL2 KELLER, born March 01, 1819 in hockenheim, germany; 0; died > March 22, 1862 in hockenheim, germany; 0. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. MICHAEL2 KELLER (GEORG1) was born March 01, 1819 in hockenheim, germany; > 0, and died March 22, 1862 in hockenheim, germany; 0. He married MARIA > ANTONIA SIEBERT January 29, 1846 in hockenheim, germany; Quality: 0. > > Children of MICHAEL KELLER and MARIA SIEBERT are: > > + 3 i. GEORGE MICHAEL3 KELLER, born 1852 in germany; 0; died in Y. > > 4 ii. PETER KELLER, born 1853 in hockenheim, germany; 0; died 1927 in 0. > > Generation No. 3 > > 3. GEORGE MICHAEL3 KELLER (MICHAEL2, GEORG1) was born 1852 in germany; 0, > and died in Y. He married ANNA MARIE GUENTHER 1888 in ALLEN CO. OHIO. > > Children of GEORGE KELLER and ANNA GUENTHER are: > > 5 i. WILLIAM FERDINAND4 KELLER, born May 09, 1889 in allen co. ohio; 0; died > December 21, 1941 in 0. He married ELIZABETH FREDERICKA VORTCAMP. > > 6 ii. MINNIE FLORA KELLER, born June 06, 1890 in allen co ohio; 0; died July > 16, 1891 in allen co ohio; 0. > > 7 iii. BERTHA TRESSA KELLER, born July 16, 1891 in allen co ohio; 0; died > August 02, 1973 in allen co ohio; 0. She married LEE WILLIS SMITH. > > 8 iv. CLARA MARGARITE KELLER, born January 20, 1893 in allen co ohio; 0; > died November 03, 1988 in allen co ohio; 0. She married DALE WILLIAM > CHENOWITH. > > 9 v. EMMA LOUISE KELLER, born March 26, 1894 in allen co ohio; 0; died in Y. > She married CHARLES E. PENFOLD June 25, 1924 in 0. > > 10 vi. AUGUST HENRY KELLER, born March 20, 1895 in allen co ohio; 0; died > September 02, 1970 in allen co ohio; 0. He married IRENE M DOWNEY. > > 11 vii. JACOB LOUIS KELLER, born June 16, 1895 in allen co ohio; 0; died > January 13, 1999 in california; 0. He married (1) BLANCHE KELLER. He married > (2) BERTHA FRANCES BASIGER September 07, 1921 in 0. > > 12 viii. LILLIAN ELIZABETH KELLER, born December 11, 1897 in allen co. lima, > ohio pennsylvania ave.; 0; died July 23, 1992 in allen co. lima ohio she was > 94 yrs old.; 0. She married ROY EVERETT GIERHART. > > 13 ix. LOUIS FREDRICK KELLER, born April 20, 1899 in allen co ohio; 0; died > November 16, 1989 in allen co ohio; 0. He married HAZEL KELLER. > > 14 x. LOUISA JOHANNA KELLER, born February 28, 1901 in allen co ohio; 0; > died November 07, 1990 in 0. She married WILLIAM GIRLIMAN. > > 15 xi. HELEN PAULINE KELLER, born May 21, 1905 in allen co ohio; 0; died > August 11, 1983 in allen co ohio; 0. She married RAYMOND(AIM) HEFFERN > September 03, 1927 in 0. > > 16 xii. ROBERT PAUL KELLER, born May 21, 1905 in 0; died in Y. He married > DOROTHY KELLER. > > 17 xiii. ELMER JOSEPH KELLER, born March 08, 1907 in allen co ohio; 0; died > March 29, 1918 in allen co ohio; 0.

Deed Record in Greenbriar Co VA: >24 Nov 1818; George MAYSE and Wm McCLUNG of Bath Co Va 752 acres for $1.00 >to William RICHMAN and Michael KALER of Grbr Co. Land is on Lick Ck/Great >Kanawha and adj Sampson MATHEWS. All with the exception of 100 acres sold to >John GWINN. Mary Ann - ------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.htm KAYLOR & TEDROW lineages included In IL - Morgan Area Genealogical Ass. & Waverly GS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html KAYLOR MAIL LIST To subscribe: KAYLOR-L-request@rootsweb.com KAYLOR GenConnect Cluster Boards http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/queries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/bible_records http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/biographies http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/deeds http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/obituaries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/pensions http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/wills KALER MAIL LIST To subscribe: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com TEDROW MAIL LIST To subscribe: TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com

Jeff Colaw <JColaw@iitri.org> wrote: >>So I might add: Kohler = Coler = Colaw ---- My *own* thought on that would be that COLAW *could* have come from the pronunciation of the name by the immigrant to what ever clerk he spoke. I had only 2 years of German "way back when", but my recollection of how the words were to be pronounced says that the LER part of the name would sound somewhat like LAW when spoken by a native of Germanic speaking Europe. ~~Leslie Kohler

Because I had a person spell our surname as GULER recently, I have been looking, once again, at the many spelling variations, that we run across, for this name. (FWIW, we happen to pronounce our name as COALER.) Let us, for this particular discussion, assume that the name was KÖHLER at sometime in the past. One way that a clerk might have written the name is KOHLER. >From this, we can use the common sense <G> of genealogy to look at some of the possible spelling changes. Let's go back to the 101 class. Any consonant might have changed for a "look-a-like" or a "sound-a-like". And, of course, any vowel accidentally, or on the part of a clerk trying to be efficient & correct, could have been changed for another. So, for example, we might go this way, through a set of changes: Kohler = Koller = Coller And, then, many times vowels were added for various reasons: Kohler = Koller = Coller = Collier (I am not suggesting here that COLLIER is always/ever an alternate spelling. Just that it is entirely possible that the name could turn up spelled this way.) Similarly, we might have a chain looking like: Kohler = Rohler = Ronler because of the sometimes look-a-like letters (in cursive writing) of K/R and h/n. I have not happen to run across the name Ronler, but we must not rule this out when we are searching. Kohler = Koller = Roller I think that we have even discussed this spelling in the past on one or more of these KÖHLER lists. Kohler = Cohler = Coller = Collar = Callar = Kallor = Kaylor = Kayler = Kailler = ??? Kohler = Kahler = Kaler = Caler = Caller = Oaller = Gallar = Galiar = ??? Kohler = Rohlar = Rallar = Roller = ??? This is just a small sampling of the many, many changes that may have occurred from one clerk to another and from one document to another. I have not found the time to go through any books to look for all of these different spellings to check on whether all of them are 'valid' spellings of names used today. But, I do know that even in today's world.... and even though we slowly and distinctly spell the name KOHLER --which we happen to pronounce like COALER-- for people, we very often get COHLER and COLER. (I even had a person come up with GULER recently... *after* I had spelled it for her more than once.) Discussions welcomed. (I know that this is tax-season and we are all busy, but let's see what we can squeeze in to our days.) This is fun stuff. ~~Leslie [Bridges] Kohler

A little humor and possibly some truths to some of these "good old days" stories. Mary Ann > Life in the 1500's > >Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in >May and were still smelling pretty good by June. However, they were >starting >to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the b.o. > >Baths equaled a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had >the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, >then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then >the >water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, >"Don't throw the baby out with the bath water". > >Houses had thatched roofs. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood >underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all >thepets... dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs lived in >the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals >would >slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and >dogs." > >There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed >a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really >mess up your nice clean bed. So, they found if they made beds with big >posts >and hung a sheet over the top, it addressed that problem. Hence those >beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies. > >The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, hence >the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors which would get >slippery in the winter when wet. So they spread thresh on the floor to >help keep their footing. As the winter wore on they kept adding more thresh >until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece >of >wood was placed at the entry way, hence a "threshhold". > >They cooked in the kitchen in a big kettle that always hung over the >fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They mostly >ate >vegetables and didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner >leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the >next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been in there for a >month. Hence the rhyme: "peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas >porridge in the pot nine days old." > >Sometimes they could obtain pork and would feel really special when that >happened. When company came over, they would bring out some bacon and hang >it to show it off. It was a sign of wealth and that a man "could really >bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and >would all sit around and "chew the fat." > >Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid content >caused some of the lead to leach onto the food. This happened most often >with tomatoes, so they stopped eating tomatoes... for 400 years. > >Most people didn't have pewter plates, but had trenchers - a piece of wood >with the middle scooped out like bowl. Trenchers were never washed and a >lot of times worms got into the wood. After eating off wormy trenchers, they >would get "trench mouth." > >Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the >loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the "upper >crust". > >Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would >sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the >road would >take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the >kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and >eat and >drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding >a "wake". > >England is old and small, and they started running out of places to bury >people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take their bones to a >house and reuse the grave. In reopening these coffins, one out of coffins >were >found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been >burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on their wrist >and >lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. >Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night to listen for the >bell. >Hence on the "graveyard shift" they would know that someone was "saved by >the bell" or he was a "dead ringer". > - ------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.htm KAYLOR & TEDROW lineages included In IL - Morgan Area Genealogical Ass. & Waverly GS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html KAYLOR MAIL LIST To subscribe: KAYLOR-L-request@rootsweb.com KAYLOR GenConnect Cluster Boards http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/queries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/bible_records http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/biographies http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/deeds http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/obituaries http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/pensions http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/k/a/KAYLOR/wills KALER MAIL LIST To subscribe: KALER-L-request@rootsweb.com TEDROW MAIL LIST To subscribe: TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com

Forward - FYI Mary Ann >============================================================ >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >============================================================ >Source: KAHLER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Kahler] spellings > > >Here are two additional spellings. > >This one was on some old documents from about 1820. >June 5,1790; Frederick Kahler to George Crumley, both of Sullivan Co.; 60 >pounds NC money for 100 acres on the south side of the Holston River on >Weavers Creek with appurtenances; wit. by J. Hall; reg. June 14, 1790. >(Sul. Co. deed list pg. 397) > >The actual deed shows the following spelling. >I recently plotted Frederick Keiller's original 1787 tract which was divided >into three parcels and sold to George Crumley, Able Edwards and Abraham >Vanderventer in 1788. By plotting all four tracts, I was able to tie to the >meandering Holston River in three places, thereby fixing the location of >George Crumley's farm fairly accurately. > >BTW, the Crumley (originally Gramlich) name has more spellings than I can >track. > >Ken > >At 10:28 AM 03/22/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >Because I had a person spell our surname as GULER recently, > >I have been looking, once again, at the many spelling > >variations, that we run across, for this name. (FWIW, we > >happen to pronounce our name as COALER.) > > > >Let us, for this particular discussion, assume that the name > >was KÖHLER at sometime in the past. > > > >One way that a clerk might have written the name is KOHLER. > >>From this, we can use the common sense <G> of genealogy to > >look at some of the possible spelling changes. Let's go back > >to the 101 class. Any consonant might have changed for a > >"look-a-like" or a "sound-a-like". And, of course, any vowel > >accidentally, or on the part of a clerk trying to be > >efficient & correct, could have been changed for another. > > > >So, for example, we might go this way, through a set of > >changes: > >Kohler = Koller = Coller > > > >And, then, many times vowels were added for various reasons: > >Kohler = Koller = Coller = Collier > > > >(I am not suggesting here that COLLIER is always/ever an > >alternate spelling. Just that it is entirely possible that > >the name could turn up spelled this way.) > > > >Similarly, we might have a chain looking like: > >Kohler = Rohler = Ronler > >because of the sometimes look-a-like letters (in cursive > >writing) of K/R and h/n. I have not happen to run across the > >name Ronler, but we must not rule this out when we are > >searching. > > > >Kohler = Koller = Roller I think that we have even > >discussed this spelling in the past on one or more of these > >KÖHLER lists. > > > >Kohler = Cohler = Coller = Collar = Callar = Kallor = Kaylor > >= Kayler = Kailler = ??? > > > >Kohler = Kahler = Kaler = Caler = Caller = Oaller = Gallar = > >Galiar = ??? > > > >Kohler = Rohlar = Rallar = Roller = ??? > > > >This is just a small sampling of the many, many changes that > >may have occurred from one clerk to another and from one > >document to another. I have not found the time to go through > >any books to look for all of these different spellings to > >check on whether all of them are 'valid' spellings of names > >used today. But, I do know that even in today's world.... > >and even though we slowly and distinctly spell the name > >KOHLER --which we happen to pronounce like COALER-- for > >people, we very often get COHLER and COLER. (I even had a > >person come up with GULER recently... *after* I had spelled > >it for her more than once.) > > > >Discussions welcomed. (I know that this is tax-season and we > >are all busy, but let's see what we can squeeze in to our > >days.) This is fun stuff. > > > > ~~Leslie [Bridges] Kohler > > - ------------------------------------------------------ Mary Ann Kaylor & Shirley Aleguas In IL - Morgan Area Genealogical Association & Waverly GHS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html Dedicated to Free Online Resources from West Central IL MAGA Mailing List: ILMAGA-L-request@rootsweb.com My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.html

Hello, Looking for info on Joshua KAYLOR that married Emily KEASOR/KEISER. I believe he is listed on the 1840 Butler co., OH census, but I have very little info on him besides this. He and wife Emily are listed in a court document in Monroe Co., OH, with Emily being the daughter of John and Emily KEISER of Monroe Co. Thanks, Teddy in CA

Another version of the NARA Military Records Price increase. Mary Ann >It is not yet written stone!! From today's issue of Ancestry Daily >News: >======================================================== >PROPOSED RATE HIKE AT NATIONAL ARCHIVES ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >======================================================== >For the past few days, the lists have been abuzz with speculation that >the >National Archives will be raising their prices for requests of military >records from $10.00 to $17.50, and to a flat fee of $40 for pension files. >I spoke with Nancy Allard at the National Archives on Wednesday >morning >and she sent me the following response: > >The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) will be >issuing a >proposed rule within the next few weeks that will revise fees for >reproduction, including the "fixed-fee" orders in the NATF 80 series. The >proposed rule will have a 60-day public comment period, during which >time >we will actively seek the comments of the user community. > >___________________________________________________________________ - ------------------------------------------------------ Mary Ann Kaylor & Shirley Aleguas In IL - Morgan Area Genealogical Association & Waverly GHS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html Dedicated to Free Online Resources from West Central IL MAGA Mailing List: ILMAGA-L-request@rootsweb.com My Family Genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.html Surnames: KAYLOR, TEDROW, CONVERSE, STEWART, PHELAN ROBISON, NELSON, ENGLAND, JONES, ROBERTS, ICKES, CORY, BOBBITT, BOYD and many others

<Caffecupz@aol.com> wrote: > >>don`t 4get HOHLER--same sound. > Barbara : ) -------- Yes, Barbara is right. We had discussed this variation on one of the KÖHLER lists previously. Many people do not realize how very, very many spelling variations there are on this name. And, often the spelling changes from generation to generation. ~~Leslie

Absolutely, you are correct. The list that I re-sent was simply one that the "GENEALOGIES CATALOGED BY THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS SINCE 1986" had given. Leslie cc: KÖHLER lists ----- Original Message ----- From: <Winzl@aol.com> To: <Aug67@att.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [KAYLOR] Fw: Many Spellings of this name > You can add the following variations to your list, too: > > Cailler, Cailer, Caillor, Cailor, Kailler, Kaillor, Kailer, Kailor

Re-sharing from when the KOEHLER list was new. ~Leslie(Bridges)Kohler ----- Original Message ----- To: "KOEHLER List" <KOEHLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 Subject: Keller, Kohler, Koehler & Kohl marriages > >>>>>>Record of PA Marriages, Vol II<<<<<<< > Records of marriages in Pennsylvania prior to 1810 > > 1777, March 25 > George Ad. Remminger and Susannah C. KELLER > > 1791, February 20 > Peter Bender and Margareta KELLER > > 1800, January 15 > Jacob Glaesser and Maria Cath. KELLER > > 1789, March 11 > KELLER, Isaac and Eliza. Kerr > > 1781, July 29 > KOEHLER, Elizabeth and Simon Peter > > 1794, Dec. 10 > KOHLER, Mary Magdalene and John William Hessler > > 1745, April 16 > KOHL, Conrad and Barbara Fischer. > > 1780, May 15 > KOHL, A. Maria and Johannes Albrecht. > > 1775, Feb. 27 > KOHL, Cathrina and Melchior Schneider, Jr > > 1780, April 24 > KOHL, Magdalena and Nathanael Hansch. > > 1785, May 16 > KOHL, Susanna and Matthaeus Leonhard Hehl > > Presented as information to anyone interested. Leslie