John: My choices are 3,2,1,4,5. I'm still hoping we may stumble on William Arp's birth. And I now find he had a brother named Alfred (probably younger than he) who died as an infant. That birth and death may show up. Whether those events were in KC or St. Louis, I don't know. The family was in St. Louis at the 1900 Census - Agnes, the mother of 2, with only one living. I'm just lurking these days, but thanks for all you are doing for so many. Roy Bourgault Comfortable on the coast of NC.