the info i've found shows an andreas kessinger born abt 1703/1707 mannheim germany. there are notes about a castle somewhere in germany. i believe near the rhine river. other names listed show places such as selzen, rheinhess, hesse, germany, or rhineland-palatinate on the west border. there are various books written about the kessinger family that are located in hart co, ky. i did find The Kesinger Family Tree compiled by martha Mcdonald 2004 at the family history library in salt lake city. there's also a ludwick kessinger, and several solomon kessingers. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:41:41 EST >From: Hawkshaw1927@aol.com >Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members >To: kansascity@rootsweb.com > >Any info on Kessinger surname from Baden Germany-long shot but worth a try. > > >In a message dated 1/6/2009 9:05:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >cindyhal@illinois.edu writes: > >Hi. My husband has Tranter relatives who lived at 1903, 1905, and 1907 >Agnes Avenue. > >I have Kessinger relatives, but they are from Hart and Barren County, >Kentucky. I have alot of info on that family, if you want to send me a few names >to check. > >cindy hall >cindyhal@illinois.edu > >---- Original message ---- >>Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:47:11 EST >>From: PHaynes968@aol.com >>Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members >>To: kansascity@rootsweb.com >> >> >>Thank you, John, for all your seemingly endless giving to so many others. >> >>We are in Ann Arbor, Michigan. >> >>As a Nevada, Vernon Co., Missouri native, father was a Marshall, Saline >Co. >>native, with other family members in the Saline Co. environs. >> >>Our granduncle Henry Hurt POTTER (13 Jan 1874 Marshall, Saline, MO - 15 >Jul >>1955 Kansas City, Jackson, MO) was married to Josephine Hazel ???. They >>lived at 3554 Agnes Ave. in KC. His obituary stated his occupation as >"real >>estate broker." Family stories also had him in the group surrounding Tom >>Pendergast, even though no written record can be located confirming that >>"social" relationship. >> >>Oral history suggested that they were common-law married. We have never >>been able to corroborate this information even though his obituary had >her as >>his spouse. >> >>We are seeking to fill in the blank as to Josephine ("Jo") Hazel's >>surname...any help? >> >>Also, we are attempting to find more information on family members: >>1) Silas Perry and Lusetta Margaret (SMITH) ALBERT reportedly married 8 >Oct >>1888 in KC. >>2) George and Burns (POTTER) CLINE...she (Burns) supposedly born ca. 1926 >in >>KC. >>3) Henry S. MILLS, originally from Saline Co., MO, supposedly (co)formed a >>bank in KC mid-1800s. >> >>Lines being researched in Kansas City: ALBERT, BUCKNER, HALL, HURT, JAMES, > >>KESSINGER, LESTER, LYNESS, MILLS, POTTER, SMITH, STRAWDERMAN >> >>Thank you, again. >> >>Paul Haynes >> >> >> >> >> >>In a message dated 1/4/2009 10:32:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com writes: >> >>Good morning, >> >>You are one of 135 members on the Kansas City Mailing List. >> >>As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>know a little something about us members, and maybe even >>help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >>note with the following: >> >>Your location - city and state .......... or just state >> >>How you are connected to Kansas City, MO or Kansas City, KS >> >>What you hope to gain by being a member of the KC Mailing List >> >>Your family name - first, first & last, or none. >> >>=================================================== >> >>Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >>information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >>names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >>lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >>grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Kansas City in the 1920s" might >>produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. >> >>There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >>simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >>in the 1950s" would be acceptable. >> >>Thank you for your consideration. >> >>John >>Kansas City List Administrator >> >> >> >> >>**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making >>headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >the body of the message > > >**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making >headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cindy Here Today, Gone to Maui

On the Gillispei fire death, check the residence file of st. Joseph state hospital and of course the Jackson county home. And even closer to the daughter's birth. Sometimes things happen that requires families placing an adult via the court in these institutions. Very Little is ever reported about happenings there. Families would have been rather secretive also and it wasn't always mental illness, TB and StD were also reasons. I suspect several of today's disorders were sent to these faculties. Bud. -----Original Message-----

Any info on Kessinger surname from Baden Germany-long shot but worth a try. In a message dated 1/6/2009 9:05:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cindyhal@illinois.edu writes: Hi. My husband has Tranter relatives who lived at 1903, 1905, and 1907 Agnes Avenue. I have Kessinger relatives, but they are from Hart and Barren County, Kentucky. I have alot of info on that family, if you want to send me a few names to check. cindy hall cindyhal@illinois.edu ---- Original message ---- >Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:47:11 EST >From: PHaynes968@aol.com >Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members >To: kansascity@rootsweb.com > > >Thank you, John, for all your seemingly endless giving to so many others. > >We are in Ann Arbor, Michigan. > >As a Nevada, Vernon Co., Missouri native, father was a Marshall, Saline Co. >native, with other family members in the Saline Co. environs. > >Our granduncle Henry Hurt POTTER (13 Jan 1874 Marshall, Saline, MO - 15 Jul >1955 Kansas City, Jackson, MO) was married to Josephine Hazel ???. They >lived at 3554 Agnes Ave. in KC. His obituary stated his occupation as "real >estate broker." Family stories also had him in the group surrounding Tom >Pendergast, even though no written record can be located confirming that >"social" relationship. > >Oral history suggested that they were common-law married. We have never >been able to corroborate this information even though his obituary had her as >his spouse. > >We are seeking to fill in the blank as to Josephine ("Jo") Hazel's >surname...any help? > >Also, we are attempting to find more information on family members: >1) Silas Perry and Lusetta Margaret (SMITH) ALBERT reportedly married 8 Oct >1888 in KC. >2) George and Burns (POTTER) CLINE...she (Burns) supposedly born ca. 1926 in >KC. >3) Henry S. MILLS, originally from Saline Co., MO, supposedly (co)formed a >bank in KC mid-1800s. > >Lines being researched in Kansas City: ALBERT, BUCKNER, HALL, HURT, JAMES, >KESSINGER, LESTER, LYNESS, MILLS, POTTER, SMITH, STRAWDERMAN > >Thank you, again. > >Paul Haynes > > > > > >In a message dated 1/4/2009 10:32:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com writes: > >Good morning, > >You are one of 135 members on the Kansas City Mailing List. > >As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >know a little something about us members, and maybe even >help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >note with the following: > >Your location - city and state .......... or just state > >How you are connected to Kansas City, MO or Kansas City, KS > >What you hope to gain by being a member of the KC Mailing List > >Your family name - first, first & last, or none. > >=================================================== > >Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Kansas City in the 1920s" might >produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. > >There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >in the 1950s" would be acceptable. > >Thank you for your consideration. > >John >Kansas City List Administrator > > > > >**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making >headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Hi. My husband has Tranter relatives who lived at 1903, 1905, and 1907 Agnes Avenue. I have Kessinger relatives, but they are from Hart and Barren County, Kentucky. I have alot of info on that family, if you want to send me a few names to check. cindy hall cindyhal@illinois.edu ---- Original message ---- >Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:47:11 EST >From: PHaynes968@aol.com >Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members >To: kansascity@rootsweb.com > > >Thank you, John, for all your seemingly endless giving to so many others. > >We are in Ann Arbor, Michigan. > >As a Nevada, Vernon Co., Missouri native, father was a Marshall, Saline Co. >native, with other family members in the Saline Co. environs. > >Our granduncle Henry Hurt POTTER (13 Jan 1874 Marshall, Saline, MO - 15 Jul >1955 Kansas City, Jackson, MO) was married to Josephine Hazel ???. They >lived at 3554 Agnes Ave. in KC. His obituary stated his occupation as "real >estate broker." Family stories also had him in the group surrounding Tom >Pendergast, even though no written record can be located confirming that >"social" relationship. > >Oral history suggested that they were common-law married. We have never >been able to corroborate this information even though his obituary had her as >his spouse. > >We are seeking to fill in the blank as to Josephine ("Jo") Hazel's >surname...any help? > >Also, we are attempting to find more information on family members: >1) Silas Perry and Lusetta Margaret (SMITH) ALBERT reportedly married 8 Oct >1888 in KC. >2) George and Burns (POTTER) CLINE...she (Burns) supposedly born ca. 1926 in >KC. >3) Henry S. MILLS, originally from Saline Co., MO, supposedly (co)formed a >bank in KC mid-1800s. > >Lines being researched in Kansas City: ALBERT, BUCKNER, HALL, HURT, JAMES, >KESSINGER, LESTER, LYNESS, MILLS, POTTER, SMITH, STRAWDERMAN > >Thank you, again. > >Paul Haynes > > > > > >In a message dated 1/4/2009 10:32:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com writes: > >Good morning, > >You are one of 135 members on the Kansas City Mailing List. > >As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >know a little something about us members, and maybe even >help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this >note with the following: > >Your location - city and state .......... or just state > >How you are connected to Kansas City, MO or Kansas City, KS > >What you hope to gain by being a member of the KC Mailing List > >Your family name - first, first & last, or none. > >=================================================== > >Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with >information. This will be more probably if you include dates and >names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather >lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my >grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Kansas City in the 1920s" might >produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. > >There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, >simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS >in the 1950s" would be acceptable. > >Thank you for your consideration. > >John >Kansas City List Administrator > > > > >**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making >headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"The Kansas City Journal" (Missouri) Sunday, December 27, 1903 MARY HOLMES GIBBS AT REST. The funeral of Mrs. Mary HOLMES GIBBS was held from the residence of her grandfather, 1106 Central street, yesterday afternoon at 3 o'clock. The services were very simple and brief. Rev. W. F. RICHARDSON, pastor of the First Christian church, conducted the services, which consisted of a scripture reading, singing and prayer. Only the family and very close friends were present. O. C. GIBBS, the husband, who at the time of her sudden death shortly after midnight on Friday, was in the Indian Territory attending to his duties as traveling representative for the Smith-McCord Dry Goods Company, reached Kansas City during the morning and was present at the funeral. Interment was made in the family lot at Elmwood cemetery. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ======================================================

John, And I read every one of those posts!! I am always hoping you will turn up something, too. I also very much appreciate all of the research work you do for everybody. As far as more details, Mary sold her land in Carroll Co in 1893, so she was alive then. A court case (that she didn't attend) in 1894 referred to her as being alive, but maybe she had already died and they just hadn't learned it yet. So there are your minimum dates. The family stories sort of centered around 1908 as her death year, so I went through that whole year's worth of KC Stars looking for a news article, but didn't turn up anything. But then I traced that uncle (he was actually Mary's first cousin, a Finch), and he married in 1891 but moved to Iowa, maybe around 1905. I doubt that his wife would have let him travel all the way back to Kansas City to go to the funeral of his female cousin! Also, the daughter was born in 1890. You would think that if her mother had died when she was a teenager it would have made a pretty big impression on her and she would have remembered it. The grandmother died in 1906 and then the daughter went to stay with another Gillispie great-uncle. So it all seems to point to more like around 1900 or earlier. I've looked at every Mary in the 1900 census that might fit, but she doesn't seem to be any one of them, though people often got left off. I've also been through the KCMO death records and found nothing. Now I'm going through the KCKS ones. So maybe I will send you a few interesting names to report on. Even if they turn out not to be my Marys, they were somebody's. Of course, the big thing is that just because the uncle took the train from Carrollton to KC to go to the funeral, that doesn't mean the funeral was actually in the city. That could have just been the nearest transfer point to some destination farther away. But I'm checking anyway. Somehow, wherever it was, they heard about her death in Carroll County in time to get to the funeral. The newspapers would have been brought in by train from the city early in the morning, so maybe they read about it there. Which means they knew what name she was using. Or, somebody notified the family. And that means somebody where she lived knew who to contact. So the mystery also includes how the news got spread, and whether it can still be picked up on today. Back then, people did know. But they never told anybody younger than themselves. > Steve, whenever I read about a fire in an old newspaper I think of you and > your gggrandmother, and I always make a point of posting the article or > obituary. You sure have a "cold case" challenge. Hopefully we'll come > across something one of these days. > > I don't remember, don't you have a time frame of when the fire might have > occurred? I assume you can eliminate the years from 1859 to the year her > daughter was born and maybe a few years after? > > Do you know the birth date of her daughter? > Do you know the death date of the uncle? > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Gillispie" <gillisp@earthlink.net> > To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:35 AM > Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members > > >>> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >>> know a little something about us members, ... >> >> >> My name is Steve Gillispie, and I live in Washington. My gggrandmother, >> Mary Finch Gillispie, was born in Carroll County, MO, in Oct 1859. The >> last >> record we have of her was from there in 1893. But then she disappeared. >> The family stories are that she died in a fire, but the people who knew >> the >> details didn't want to talk about it, so they have been lost. Her >> daughter, >> who was just a child at the time, wrote some notes in the 1920s that were >> only recently found in an old suitcase in a garage attic, that said an >> uncle >> took the train to Kansas City to go to her funeral. That daughter was >> raised by her grandmother, and spent many years trying to find out what >> happened to her mother. Through the subsequent years, each generation has >> tried and failed as well, and now it is my turn. The rumors are also that >> she had remarried, but nobody knows what her new name was, either. So I >> subscribe to this list hoping that someday one of her step-children's >> descendants will talk about her and our long mystery will finally be >> solved. >> >> >> --- >> Steve Gillispie <gillisp@earthlink.net> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message --- Steve Gillispie <gillisp@earthlink.net>

We had a Snediker I think worked on The Ottawa Hereld paper in Kansas. As a ad man on the paper. Pat Fenton **************Stay up-to-date on the latest news - from fashion trends to celebrity break-ups and everything in between. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000024)

Dear Hawkshaw, The only Snedikers I can think of that would correspond to these would be of the family of Norman Snediker, who was a great-uncle to me.  His widow, Ella, lived at 2503 Park Ave during the 1930s.  Does that ring a bell?  I have no information on any children they may have had. Thanks for the lead.  I would appreciate any further info you may have. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: Hawkshaw1927@aol.com To: kansascity@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 4:17:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members There were other Snedikers in KC-one lived on my street from 1930 to 1946,   will check spelling on Census forms. She was either a widow or maiden  lady school teacher who lived with her widowed mother on the East side of  Kansas City. Only widows or maiden ladies were hired by the KCMO school  board..but we did have some private schools. The parochial schools had Nuns back  then. Would you like for me to check?? Hawkshaw     In a message dated 1/5/2009 12:05:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,   ted.snediker@comcast.net writes: George, Thanks for the lead.  We're no doubt  related, but can't tell how closely until I compare notes with her.   Regards, Ted Snediker ----- Original Message  ----- From: "George Tennyson" <get@sunflower.com> To:  kansascity@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 11:46:50 AM GMT  -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing  List members I have a Snediker here in Lawrence, KS listed in the  phone book, spelled Snedeger.  She is spelling her name Snediker.  She is (at one time) head of the genealogy here in Lawrence.  Thought you might have an interest.  George Tennyson,  get@sunflower.com ----- Original Message ----- From:  <ted.snediker@comcast.net> To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com>   Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the  Kansas City Mailing List members > > > I live in  the Washington, DC area. > > > > My connection to  KC is through my paternal grandparents. My Snediker > grandfather was  born in Ohio, came west to Kansas in the 1880's to where > my  great-grandfather and his brothers had a sheep ranch. They sold out the   > ranch around 1890 and came to KC. My great-grandfather had a sewage   > construction company. My grandfather lived in Independence, worked in  a > shoe store for some years, was a volunteer in the Spanish-American  War. My > dad was born in Independence. When he was young, the family  left the KC > area and settled in Topeka, where Grandpa had a dry goods  store. Grandpa > married into the family of Oliver H.C.P. Mitchell, who  was a Methodist > preacher and worked as a carpenter. His wife was a  Rubey. I no longer have > any kin in the KC area that I know of.   > > > > Happy New Year to all, and many thanks  again to John for doing such a > great job with this list. >   > > > Ted Snediker > > > -----  Original Message ----- > From: mpettyjohn@comcast.net > To:  kansascity@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 3:59:57 PM GMT  -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City  Mailing List members > > > >  ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to > KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the  message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe'  without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list,  please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message **************New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John; I have always been told it was an attitude thing, "A woman 's place is in her home. The husband was to "bring home the bacon". This very Victorian attitude lasted into the 1940's when women were vital to the War effort to do"men's jobs" and some might say the world has never been the same since. From what I can read the underling/ chattel attitude goes back to" Adam and Eve" I find it interesting, men are now being accepted back as classroom teachers and we have women Superintendents. I once ran for the school board. It was bluntly said"what does SHE want on the school board.?" this is not a woman as equal town. -----Original Message-----

Hello! The Loops were a very large family that have roots in Indiana, Illinois and Ohio. Cynthia Cecil Loop's father, Alexander Baird Loop was born in Delaware, Ohio. He was one of six children. He had 12 half brothers and sisters from his father's second marriage. The cousins appear to have been close, as they moved together with their families from state to state. There is also a family of Loops from New York, which I have not been able to connect to those in my list. I think that Addie is from the New York branch of Loops, but I am not sure. There were som Loops from New York that did live in Kansas City. They were merchants. I will keep my eyes open on this one for you.. Thanks, Teresa > Happy New Year List, > I have an interest in your Loop surname. > I'm researching Mallory in Daviess Co., Mo. > ID: I623 > Name: Winfield Scott MALLORY > Sex: M > Birth: 1862 > > Father: Joseph Henry MALLORY b: 11 JUL 1819 in Grayson Co., Va. > Mother: Rachel Myra CREEKMORE b: ABT 1827 in Kentucky > > Marriage 1 Addie LOOP > > I have no further information concerning Addie Loop and wondered if she is > part of your research interest. > Thanks, > Marie > > ---- Teresa Dugan <dugantc@columbus.rr.com> wrote: >> Hello! >> >> My name is Teresa Pearce Dugan. "He married Cynthia Cecil Loop, who >> was from Green City, Missouri. She had many brothers and sisters, as did >> my >> great grandfather Hardman who lived at different times in Kansas City. >> He >> was born in Parsons, Kansas. My great great grandfather, James E Hardman >> died in Kansas City in 1906 from pleurisy. He did own and run a boarding >> home/hotel at one time. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, John, for all your seemingly endless giving to so many others. We are in Ann Arbor, Michigan. As a Nevada, Vernon Co., Missouri native, father was a Marshall, Saline Co. native, with other family members in the Saline Co. environs. Our granduncle Henry Hurt POTTER (13 Jan 1874 Marshall, Saline, MO - 15 Jul 1955 Kansas City, Jackson, MO) was married to Josephine Hazel ???. They lived at 3554 Agnes Ave. in KC. His obituary stated his occupation as "real estate broker." Family stories also had him in the group surrounding Tom Pendergast, even though no written record can be located confirming that "social" relationship. Oral history suggested that they were common-law married. We have never been able to corroborate this information even though his obituary had her as his spouse. We are seeking to fill in the blank as to Josephine ("Jo") Hazel's surname...any help? Also, we are attempting to find more information on family members: 1) Silas Perry and Lusetta Margaret (SMITH) ALBERT reportedly married 8 Oct 1888 in KC. 2) George and Burns (POTTER) CLINE...she (Burns) supposedly born ca. 1926 in KC. 3) Henry S. MILLS, originally from Saline Co., MO, supposedly (co)formed a bank in KC mid-1800s. Lines being researched in Kansas City: ALBERT, BUCKNER, HALL, HURT, JAMES, KESSINGER, LESTER, LYNESS, MILLS, POTTER, SMITH, STRAWDERMAN Thank you, again. Paul Haynes In a message dated 1/4/2009 10:32:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com writes: Good morning, You are one of 135 members on the Kansas City Mailing List. As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to know a little something about us members, and maybe even help each other, so I'm requesting that you respond to this note with the following: Your location - city and state .......... or just state How you are connected to Kansas City, MO or Kansas City, KS What you hope to gain by being a member of the KC Mailing List Your family name - first, first & last, or none. =================================================== Perhaps someone on the List will be able to provide you with information. This will be more probably if you include dates and names in your response. For example, saying "my grandfather lived in KC" will not get much of a response but saying "my grandfather, John O'Brien, lived in Kansas City in the 1920s" might produce a result. It's up to you how specific you want to be. There is, of course, no requirement that you participate. However, simply responding: "I live in California and lived in Kansas City, KS in the 1950s" would be acceptable. Thank you for your consideration. John Kansas City List Administrator **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

George, Thanks for the lead.  We're no doubt related, but can't tell how closely until I compare notes with her. Regards, Ted Snediker ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Tennyson" <get@sunflower.com> To: kansascity@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 11:46:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members I have a Snediker here in Lawrence, KS listed in the phone book, spelled Snedeger.  She is spelling her name Snediker.  She is (at one time) head of the genealogy here in Lawrence.  Thought you might have an interest.  George Tennyson, get@sunflower.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <ted.snediker@comcast.net> To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members > > > I live in the Washington, DC area. > > > > My connection to KC is through my paternal grandparents. My Snediker > grandfather was born in Ohio, came west to Kansas in the 1880's to where > my great-grandfather and his brothers had a sheep ranch. They sold out the > ranch around 1890 and came to KC. My great-grandfather had a sewage > construction company. My grandfather lived in Independence, worked in a > shoe store for some years, was a volunteer in the Spanish-American War. My > dad was born in Independence. When he was young, the family left the KC > area and settled in Topeka, where Grandpa had a dry goods store. Grandpa > married into the family of Oliver H.C.P. Mitchell, who was a Methodist > preacher and worked as a carpenter. His wife was a Rubey. I no longer have > any kin in the KC area that I know of. > > > > Happy New Year to all, and many thanks again to John for doing such a > great job with this list. > > > > Ted Snediker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mpettyjohn@comcast.net > To: kansascity@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 3:59:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can't really reconcile this chain of thought, but married women teachers may become pregnant (oh, shameful word) and you didn't flaunt that condition in public- as in being a teacher. Now of course-birth control was not as reliable as it became in later years and the lots of kids came from large families, and they all knew that we didn't have a large population of storks flying over Kansas City, nor PA for that matter. Think I just might research where this custom originated in the States..but in the old western movies the school "Marm" was always a spinster and if the wealthy, handsome rancher married her, then they looked for a replacement. Or they feared that a pg teacher just might go into labor and give birth in the school room, with no one there to boil the water and deliver the infant. Lots of scenarios possible. The male teachers in my schools were generally married- kept them away from the nubile teenagers in high school and only male teachers in grade school taught shop and phys ed-(didn't' have a lot of interesting men for the gals at East High to have a crush on either-mostly married men whose kids were in our classes or 4'F's from the draft). Exciting,eh what? In a message dated 1/5/2009 3:08:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com writes: Back in Pennsylvania in the small town where I grew up, prior to about 1950, woman school teachers were not allowed to be married. I don't remember if it was the same for men. Looks like it was the same in KC and maybe all over. Anyone know why woman teachers could not be married? Was it the same for men? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hawkshaw1927@aol.com> To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members >Only widows or maiden ladies were hired by the KCMO school board..but we > did have some private schools. The parochial schools had Nuns back then. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

During the Depression, many companies would not hire women if their husband had a job. My aunt was working for a large oil company in Oklahoma when she married and because her husband was working for a bank, the oil company told her they'd have to lay her off. They employed only single women. However, my grandmother was widowed during this time and the oil company relented because she lived with my aunt and was dependent upon her daughter's income. The company let my aunt continue working. Then WW II came along and my uncle, even though he was in his late 30's and he and my aunt had no children, was drafted and spent over two years in the Army, all overseas. My dad worked for the railroad and because many men were being laid off, he and my mother thought it'd be a good idea to have a small dairy for extra income in case he'd be put on the extra board or laid off. The railroad officers told my dad he could not continue working if the dairy was in his name as men couldn't hold two jobs. So they bought a few cows, put the business in my mother's name, bottled the milk, and we children delivered it to a dozen or so homes. Ironic is the fact that during this time, milk was being sold for six or seven cents per quart. The dairy business didn't last but about two years as most of the customers couldn't afford to pay their bills. Schools did not hire married women mainly because they felt they'd have to quit if they had children. I know of girls who were teachers and were secretly married but did not reveal it to the school officials. juanita > Back in Pennsylvania in the small town where I grew up, prior to about > 1950, woman school teachers were not allowed to be married. I don't > remember if it was the same for men. Looks like it was the same in KC > and maybe all over. > > Anyone know why woman teachers could not be married? Was it the same > for men? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Hawkshaw1927@aol.com> > To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members > > > >Only widows or maiden ladies were hired by the KCMO school > >board..but we > > did have some private schools. The parochial schools had Nuns back > > then. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"The Kansas City Star" (Missouri) Sunday, August 20, 1899 A YOUTHFUL THIEF TAKER. Two boys walked up the steps of the police station late yesterday afternoon. Paul KUEHNEMAN, 15 years old, 2117 Campbell street, had taken the other boy, aged 12 years, from Jones Bros.' dry goods store, where a floor walker had arrested him for shoplifting. The boy was crying bitterly when he entered the station with Paul. He made desperate efforts to release himself, but Paul stuck to his arm like a leech and dragged him along. It was hard work, though, and he was pretty well exhausted when he got to the station. "He told me he was going to get his gang to whip me and rescue him if I didn't let him go," said Paul. The boy was locked in a cell room. Paul KUEHNEMAN works in the advertising department of Jones Bros. ====================================================== added info: Paul married and became a druggist. He died in Kansas City in 1949 at the age of 65 and is buried at Mt Washington Cemetery. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ======================================================

Turns out the census takers repeatedly wrote as Snedegar and also transcribed as Snedizer- so must not be related. It was pronounced as Snediker among the neighbors, but "Momma" came from Sweden and maybe that how the neighbors heard it. Sorry Charlie ! In a message dated 1/5/2009 1:39:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ted.snediker@comcast.net writes: Dear Hawkshaw, The only Snedikers I can think of that would correspond to these would be of the family of Norman Snediker, who was a great-uncle to me. His widow, Ella, lived at 2503 Park Ave during the 1930s. Does that ring a bell? I have no information on any children they may have had. Thanks for the lead. I would appreciate any further info you may have. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: Hawkshaw1927@aol.com To: kansascity@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 4:17:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members There were other Snedikers in KC-one lived on my street from 1930 to 1946, will check spelling on Census forms. She was either a widow or maiden lady school teacher who lived with her widowed mother on the East side of Kansas City. Only widows or maiden ladies were hired by the KCMO school board..but we did have some private schools. The parochial schools had Nuns back then. Would you like for me to check?? Hawkshaw In a message dated 1/5/2009 12:05:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ted.snediker@comcast.net writes: George, Thanks for the lead. We're no doubt related, but can't tell how closely until I compare notes with her. Regards, Ted Snediker ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Tennyson" <get@sunflower.com> To: kansascity@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 11:46:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members I have a Snediker here in Lawrence, KS listed in the phone book, spelled Snedeger. She is spelling her name Snediker. She is (at one time) head of the genealogy here in Lawrence. Thought you might have an interest. George Tennyson, get@sunflower.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <ted.snediker@comcast.net> To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members > > > I live in the Washington, DC area. > > > > My connection to KC is through my paternal grandparents. My Snediker > grandfather was born in Ohio, came west to Kansas in the 1880's to where > my great-grandfather and his brothers had a sheep ranch. They sold out the > ranch around 1890 and came to KC. My great-grandfather had a sewage > construction company. My grandfather lived in Independence, worked in a > shoe store for some years, was a volunteer in the Spanish-American War. My > dad was born in Independence. When he was young, the family left the KC > area and settled in Topeka, where Grandpa had a dry goods store. Grandpa > married into the family of Oliver H.C.P. Mitchell, who was a Methodist > preacher and worked as a carpenter. His wife was a Rubey. I no longer have > any kin in the KC area that I know of. > > > > Happy New Year to all, and many thanks again to John for doing such a > great job with this list. > > > > Ted Snediker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mpettyjohn@comcast.net > To: kansascity@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 3:59:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Back in Pennsylvania in the small town where I grew up, prior to about 1950, woman school teachers were not allowed to be married. I don't remember if it was the same for men. Looks like it was the same in KC and maybe all over. Anyone know why woman teachers could not be married? Was it the same for men? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hawkshaw1927@aol.com> To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members >Only widows or maiden ladies were hired by the KCMO school board..but we > did have some private schools. The parochial schools had Nuns back then.

"The Kansas City Star" (Missouri) Thursday, July 12, 1906 BIRTHS. A. W. & Ida HARTSTONE, 2018 E. Thirteenth, July 10, boy John and Mary HILL, 3021 Olive, July 1, boy W. and Mary VANDOLAH, 2606 Madison, July 10, boy Thomas and Maude STEWART, St. John & Frisco railway, July 9, boy D.P. and Mary O'CONNOR, 2109 Madison, July 9, boy C. P. and Anna McLAUGHLIN, 4312 E. Eighteenth, July 11, boy James & Cora BRENTS, 1136 Olive, July 4, boy Walter & Ester FELLOWS, 516 W. Seventh, July 6, boy James A. & Pearl MARSH, 801 Park ave, July 11, girl F.J. and Sallie FLEMING, 1604 Benton, July 9, girl Jay H. & Grace BAKER, 417 Cambridge, July 6, girl S.R. and Grace BILLINGSLEY, 6220 E. Thirteenth, July 4, girl George & Myrtle RAYNOR, 330 Park ave, July 9, girl Frank & Florence BALES, 1101 Monroe, July 8, girl (note: These are not all the births for the period. Births were published when reported.) ====================================================== (I have no connection with any of these families but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ======================================================

There were other Snedikers in KC-one lived on my street from 1930 to 1946, will check spelling on Census forms. She was either a widow or maiden lady school teacher who lived with her widowed mother on the East side of Kansas City. Only widows or maiden ladies were hired by the KCMO school board..but we did have some private schools. The parochial schools had Nuns back then. Would you like for me to check?? Hawkshaw In a message dated 1/5/2009 12:05:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ted.snediker@comcast.net writes: George, Thanks for the lead. We're no doubt related, but can't tell how closely until I compare notes with her. Regards, Ted Snediker ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Tennyson" <get@sunflower.com> To: kansascity@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 11:46:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members I have a Snediker here in Lawrence, KS listed in the phone book, spelled Snedeger. She is spelling her name Snediker. She is (at one time) head of the genealogy here in Lawrence. Thought you might have an interest. George Tennyson, get@sunflower.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <ted.snediker@comcast.net> To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members > > > I live in the Washington, DC area. > > > > My connection to KC is through my paternal grandparents. My Snediker > grandfather was born in Ohio, came west to Kansas in the 1880's to where > my great-grandfather and his brothers had a sheep ranch. They sold out the > ranch around 1890 and came to KC. My great-grandfather had a sewage > construction company. My grandfather lived in Independence, worked in a > shoe store for some years, was a volunteer in the Spanish-American War. My > dad was born in Independence. When he was young, the family left the KC > area and settled in Topeka, where Grandpa had a dry goods store. Grandpa > married into the family of Oliver H.C.P. Mitchell, who was a Methodist > preacher and worked as a carpenter. His wife was a Rubey. I no longer have > any kin in the KC area that I know of. > > > > Happy New Year to all, and many thanks again to John for doing such a > great job with this list. > > > > Ted Snediker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mpettyjohn@comcast.net > To: kansascity@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 3:59:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Steve, whenever I read about a fire in an old newspaper I think of you and your gggrandmother, and I always make a point of posting the article or obituary. You sure have a "cold case" challenge. Hopefully we'll come across something one of these days. I don't remember, don't you have a time frame of when the fire might have occurred? I assume you can eliminate the years from 1859 to the year her daughter was born and maybe a few years after? Do you know the birth date of her daughter? Do you know the death date of the uncle? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Gillispie" <gillisp@earthlink.net> To: <kansascity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [KANSASCITY] the Kansas City Mailing List members >> As we begin a new year, I thought it would be interesting to >> know a little something about us members, ... > > > My name is Steve Gillispie, and I live in Washington. My gggrandmother, > Mary Finch Gillispie, was born in Carroll County, MO, in Oct 1859. The > last > record we have of her was from there in 1893. But then she disappeared. > The family stories are that she died in a fire, but the people who knew > the > details didn't want to talk about it, so they have been lost. Her > daughter, > who was just a child at the time, wrote some notes in the 1920s that were > only recently found in an old suitcase in a garage attic, that said an > uncle > took the train to Kansas City to go to her funeral. That daughter was > raised by her grandmother, and spent many years trying to find out what > happened to her mother. Through the subsequent years, each generation has > tried and failed as well, and now it is my turn. The rumors are also that > she had remarried, but nobody knows what her new name was, either. So I > subscribe to this list hoping that someday one of her step-children's > descendants will talk about her and our long mystery will finally be > solved. > > > --- > Steve Gillispie <gillisp@earthlink.net> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KANSASCITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message