--part1_c8.2d9a2caf.2ac5f496_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following webpage gives you links to pages that explain all elements of the Jordan DNA testing: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html We have just added new pages that explain how the test results can help you find ancestors. See the following page for that information: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/JordanDNAProjecMRCA.html Please let me know if there is something that you do not find on those pages. Larry Jordan Charlotte, NC Visit my genealogy sites at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/index.html http://www.homestead.com/lumbee/ http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/r/Larry-E-Jordan/ --part1_c8.2d9a2caf.2ac5f496_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (rly-xb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.105]) by air-xb01.mail.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINXB13-0926070821; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:08:21 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.41]) by rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB49-0926070737; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:07:37 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g8QB7PU5030683; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 05:07:25 -0600 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 05:07:25 -0600 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Sep 26 05:07:24 2002 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 04:07:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Jordan <[email protected]> Old-To: [email protected] In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [JORDAN] Re: JORDAN-D Digest V02 #120 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/3462 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists5.rootsweb.com id g8QB7PU5030683 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) My question is to Bob Jordan: Specifically, how are DNA sample obtained from those long dead? Also, I remember the cost per person participating in this genealogical DNA testing project, but it escapes my poor memory. Please, refresh. I may have found another male Jordan for the project. Karen Trull Jordan --- [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822=20 >=20 > JORDAN-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 120 >=20 > Today's Topics: > #1 [JORDAN] JORDAN info =20 > [[email protected] (Cheryl Thompson] > #2 [JORDAN] Anyone know these Jordans [Earl > Cullison <[email protected]] > #3 [JORDAN] Most Recent Common Ancest ["Robert > Jordan" <[email protected]>] >=20 > Administrivia: > JORDAN list website - > http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/JORDAN.htm >=20 > =20 > ****************************************************** >=20 > To unsubscribe from JORDAN-D, send a message to=20 > [email protected] > that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, > too. =20 >=20 > =20 > ****************************************************** >=20 >=20 > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822=20 > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:21:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] (Cheryl Thompson) > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] JORDAN info >=20 > This is forwarded (with permission) from Somebody's > Links at > www.petuniapress.com=20 > Hope it helps someone...=20 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=20 > ANTIGUA and BARBADOS. Tombstones and Burials. > Searchable indexes provide > last name, other names, date of birth, date of > death, site, and notes > (e.g. from the Barbados page: JORDAN, Elizabeth, > 1695, 1761 Sep 6, St. > George, Notes: Doctor WALKER). Updated monthly. > http://24.42.45.104/ > =A0=A0=A0=A0Antigua: http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/antigua/ > =A0=A0Barbados: http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/barbados/ >=20 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=20 > Regards, > ~Cheryl~ >=20 > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822=20 > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:20:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Earl Cullison <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] Anyone know these Jordans? >=20 > Hello everyone, > I found some more Jordan cousin through another of > my > family lines.I wonder if anyone knows about these?? >=20 > I certainly hope we can find a connection. My > Grandfather Charles Oscar Jordan was born in 1887 > Buffalo-Putnam Co. W.Va. He died in 1979 in Nitro at > 93 years. He was married to Josephine Fisher in 1909 > in Buffalo. They had two sons: Charles Gideon (Bus) > Jordan born about 1910 and my father Garland Clayton > Jordan born 1912-1986. He married Jannie Louise > Morris > in 1934 at Marmet W.Va. > He just found another name.It is Mary Rood, > Charles > Oscar Jordan's aunt born in 1866. > Thanks, Earl >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com >=20 > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822=20 > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:47:39 -0300 > From: "Robert Jordan" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] Most Recent Common Ancestor DNA >=20 > I joined a new list about DNA uses in genealogy. > This is a place where you can ask questions and look > at answers using their archives concerning family > DNA - very useful. Please see one answer concerning > comparisons of DNA between members of a family. >=20 > Bob Jordan >=20 > X-Message: #4 > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:48:19 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DNA] DNA Question > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > In a message dated 09/22/02 10:01:38 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, =20 > [email protected] writes: >=20 > > I know absolutely nothing about DNA, other than > what I have read recently on =20 > > a web site. I have a relative (maybe), with whom I > think I share a common =20 > > ancestor. It would his 2nd great grandfather, as > he is 94 years of age, and =20 > > my 4th great grandfather. If we both had the > Genealogy DNA test, would it =20 > > tell us if we were related, and if so, > approximately how many generations? =20 > > We both share the same surname and probably are > related somewhere in the =20 > > past, but could the test determine if the > relationship is within the last 4 =20 > > generations? > The Y chromosome DNA tests can't tell you exactly > how many generations ago =20 > your MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) lived. =20 > Most of the time, a son's Y chromosome results will > exactly match his father, =20 > but occasionally, a mutation will occur. Scientists > have compared several =20 > thousand examples of father-son Y chromosome tests, > so we have some idea of =20 > the average mutation rate, which is about two times > in a thousand when you =20 > are looking at a specific marker. But mutations are > random events, and you =20 > cannot predict when it will occur. =20 > All we know is that the more generations have > elapsed, the more likely you =20 > are to encounter a mutation. So if you compared 100 > pairs of men whose MRCA =20 > lived 4 generations ago with 100 pairs of men whose > MRCA lived 8 generations =20 > ago, you would find more mutations in the second > group. But you will find =20 > some mutations in the first group and some perfect > matches in the second =20 > group. > The MRCA calculator I described in a second message > today gives you a RANGE =20 > of possibilities as a function of the mutation rate > and the number of markers =20 > tested. The range is called the 95% confidence > interval, and it is quite =20 > wide. But the calculator assumes that the two people > in question are randomly =20 > selected out of a pool of men who have matching > results on their Y test (they =20 > have the same "haplotype"). They may not even have > the same surname -- all we =20 > know is that their haplotypes are identical. > Now in your case, you are not dealing with two > randomly selected people. You =20 > already have some reasons to believe that the two > people have a specific =20 > common ancestor. If the test results match (or are > very similar), this =20 > supports your hypothesis, but it does not prove it. > If the test results are =20 > very different, then you know your hypothesis is > wrong. > Ann Turner [email protected] > GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator =20 > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html > DNA preservation kits: http://www.dnafiler.com >=20 > Bob Jordan > [email protected] >=20 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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