LOL! Donna.. I don't see why you should feel like you are under any big burden...I have been stuck on my William Jordan in WV for THIRTY yes 30 stinking years!!!! and there are just as many Johns as there are Williams...and there are more different tribes of Jordan than you can imagine!! My William was born about the same time...do you think your John knows him? Pat Jordan Saletore Dennis Broberg wrote:I joined the JORDAN list because I have looked, almost five years now, to find by elusive gr-gr-grandfather, John JORDAN, (b) abt 1830 PA, and thought, possibly, I would get information that would help me pin-point my search. What I've concluded, from queries made to the LIST, is that the rest of the JORDAN families are having as hard a time, pinpointing their JORDAN ancestors, as I have had. I suppose, that is why the DNA testing needs to be done. My question is, I am not a direct JORDAN descendent. John Jordan was my maternal gr-gr grandfather. My mother said she was PA Dutch. I have not been able to locate any of her maternal PA family, since they obviously moved quite a bit. Should I just give up on trying to find them? I have recently spent weeks (all day and into the evening) going thru census records at the NARA and FHC, but have come up "zero". Donna Broberg ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== JORDAN list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/JORDAN.htm