On July 2, 2004, Collene Mount sent in an exerpt from the book, "These Jordans Were Here," by Octavia Jordan Perry. In the first paragraph, beginning "There are two William Jordans..." is a sentence which reads "This William Jordan. because of probably the son of Matthew, who was a son of Samuel Jordan and the ninth son of Thomas Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan." Undoubtedly some of this sentence has been omitted because it doesn't make sense the way it is written. Could Collene Mount please check and see if this is what is written in Octavia Jordan Perry's book? Thanks, Carole Hays Quitman, Louisiana

Here are the two paragraphs on "William Jordan" It is a known fact that a William Jordan and his wife emigrated to Southern Kentucky before they went to Indiana. Records support this fact, fpr a William Jordan doed om Tippercanoe County, Indiana, before 1830 and left a will in which he names his sons as: John, Miles, Levi, Jesse, James, and William. Because this William Jordan gave his sons these names is almost positive proof that he was the son of Elizabeth and Edward Jordan, for many of the names of his children were the same names as the names of Edward and Susannah Jordan. There is another William Jordan, who is sometimes con- fused with the preceding William Jordan. This William Jordan was born in Virginia in the year 1748, was a soldier in the American Revolution, married in 1769 to Sally Wood who was born in 1753, moved to Triune, Tennessee, and died there in 1822.. This William was probably, because of dates, the son of Mathew Jordan, son of Samuel Jordan, the ninth son of Thomas Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan This William Jordan left issue: William, Granville, Henry, and Robert. (The above is exactly how it is written in Mrs. Perry's book) Collene Mount 7/4/04 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Hays" <cjhays@bayou.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 12:32 AM Subject: [JORDAN] Re: Samuel Jordan Descendants > On July 2, 2004, Collene Mount sent in an exerpt from the book, > "These Jordans Were Here," by Octavia Jordan Perry. In the first > paragraph, beginning "There are two William Jordans..." is a sentence > which reads "This William Jordan. because of probably the son of > Matthew, who was a son of Samuel Jordan and the ninth son of Thomas > Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan." > Undoubtedly some of this sentence has been omitted because it doesn't > make sense the way it is written. > Could Collene Mount please check and see if this is what is written > in Octavia Jordan Perry's book? > Thanks, > Carole Hays > Quitman, Louisiana > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

Mrs. Perry's book was printed in 1969, long before the internet began. She sent me a copy of the book many years ago. She has made some assumptions, based on long lived speculation. For instance - on page 34 Mrs. Perry writes, "Samuel Jordan had three sons who emigrated to Virginia -- Robert, Thomas, and Samuel." Mrs. Perry states the father-sons relationship as fact, but there is no proof. Robert was listed in the 1623 census (killed) as living on the Samuel Jordan estate, but does not say he was son of Samuel. Thomas Jordan was also listed in the census as living at Jamestown, but does not state he was son of Samuel. We all know there are many different Jordan families from our DNA testing. Samuel Jordan (JR?) later lived in the same area as Samuel (SR?), so it also was assumed he was also a son. Now, it is possible that Samuel had three sons, but there is no such proof - not even close. Doesn't it seem a little strange that Samuel's property was not passed to either! Samuel (JR?) or Thomas? Mrs. Perry also states on page 36 that a Samuel Jordan patented land in 1626 on the NORTH side of the James, from the falls (probably Richmond later) down to Henrico. Then, Mrs. Perry assumes this land on the NORTH side of the James was originally owned by the elder Samuel. The elder Samuel's land was on the SOUTH side of the river. Then, on page 37, Mrs. Perry tells us about a land patent to John Woodlief, near the "land known as Begger's Bush - bordering east on Samuel Jordan's land." Mrs. Perry has assumed this land patent was telling us that the younger Samuel then owned Begger's Bush. That is not the case. Many, many land deeds will mention land boarders with long deceased owners. Mrs. Perry's book was one of the first publications concerning Jordan families. We find many bits and pieces of early Jordan history, but she made a mistake that most of us have committed in time by assuming too much. We need to create theories so we can test our ideas against facts. About 400 years ago, there was a theory that stated the earth went around the sun. This theory was later proved right. But, it was a logical theory first. In the case of genealogy, too often does theory become fact by just being printed somewhere. Bob Jordan ----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Hays<mailto:cjhays@bayou.com> To: JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 2:32 AM Subject: Re: Samuel Jordan Descendants On July 2, 2004, Collene Mount sent in an exerpt from the book, "These Jordans Were Here," by Octavia Jordan Perry. In the first paragraph, beginning "There are two William Jordans..." is a sentence which reads "This William Jordan. because of probably the son of Matthew, who was a son of Samuel Jordan and the ninth son of Thomas Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan." Undoubtedly some of this sentence has been omitted because it doesn't make sense the way it is written. Could Collene Mount please check and see if this is what is written in Octavia Jordan Perry's book? Thanks, Carole Hays Quitman, Louisiana ______________________________