To the JORDAN-L and in answer to Mr. Robert Jordan: Dear Robert, Please note that I was not questioning Ms. Perry's book, nor was I criticizing it. I was simply asking if the quoted sentence was a correct exerpt from the book. The quoted sentence made no sense to me. This is that sentence: "This William Jordan. [note the period] because of probably the son of Matthew, who was a son of Samuel Jordan and the ninth son of Thomas Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan." As I said before, this sentence makes no sense to me. Carole Hays Quitman, Louisiana

Could someone who has the book by Octavia Jordan Perry check and see if there is mention of the marriage of Mary Jordan to William Dail in 1824 in North Carolina? Rachel Jordan Jenkins

Mrs. Perry's book was printed in 1969, long before the internet began. She sent me a copy of the book many years ago. She has made some assumptions, based on long lived speculation. For instance - on page 34 Mrs. Perry writes, "Samuel Jordan had three sons who emigrated to Virginia -- Robert, Thomas, and Samuel." Mrs. Perry states the father-sons relationship as fact, but there is no proof. Robert was listed in the 1623 census (killed) as living on the Samuel Jordan estate, but does not say he was son of Samuel. Thomas Jordan was also listed in the census as living at Jamestown, but does not state he was son of Samuel. We all know there are many different Jordan families from our DNA testing. Samuel Jordan (JR?) later lived in the same area as Samuel (SR?), so it also was assumed he was also a son. Now, it is possible that Samuel had three sons, but there is no such proof - not even close. Doesn't it seem a little strange that Samuel's property was not passed to either! Samuel (JR?) or Thomas? Mrs. Perry also states on page 36 that a Samuel Jordan patented land in 1626 on the NORTH side of the James, from the falls (probably Richmond later) down to Henrico. Then, Mrs. Perry assumes this land on the NORTH side of the James was originally owned by the elder Samuel. The elder Samuel's land was on the SOUTH side of the river. Then, on page 37, Mrs. Perry tells us about a land patent to John Woodlief, near the "land known as Begger's Bush - bordering east on Samuel Jordan's land." Mrs. Perry has assumed this land patent was telling us that the younger Samuel then owned Begger's Bush. That is not the case. Many, many land deeds will mention land boarders with long deceased owners. Mrs. Perry's book was one of the first publications concerning Jordan families. We find many bits and pieces of early Jordan history, but she made a mistake that most of us have committed in time by assuming too much. We need to create theories so we can test our ideas against facts. About 400 years ago, there was a theory that stated the earth went around the sun. This theory was later proved right. But, it was a logical theory first. In the case of genealogy, too often does theory become fact by just being printed somewhere. Bob Jordan ----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Hays<mailto:cjhays@bayou.com> To: JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 2:32 AM Subject: Re: Samuel Jordan Descendants On July 2, 2004, Collene Mount sent in an exerpt from the book, "These Jordans Were Here," by Octavia Jordan Perry. In the first paragraph, beginning "There are two William Jordans..." is a sentence which reads "This William Jordan. because of probably the son of Matthew, who was a son of Samuel Jordan and the ninth son of Thomas Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan." Undoubtedly some of this sentence has been omitted because it doesn't make sense the way it is written. Could Collene Mount please check and see if this is what is written in Octavia Jordan Perry's book? Thanks, Carole Hays Quitman, Louisiana ______________________________

There isn't a Stuart Jordan listed. Collene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Hays" <cjhays@bayou.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 12:39 AM Subject: [JORDAN] William Jordan of Williamson Co., Tennessee > In the exerpt from Octavia Jordan Perry's book, "These Jordans Were > Here," it is stated that "...William Jordan, born in Virginia in 1748, > was a soldier in American Revolution, married Sallie Wood who was born > in 1753. This William moved to Triune, Tennessee and died there in > 1822." A little further on it is stated that "This William had issue: > William, Granville, Henry, and Robert." > According to information I have gotten from a couple of Jordan > researchers, my g-g-g grandfather, William Jordan, was born ca 1830 in > King and Queen Co., VA. He moved to Williamson Co., TN, and had sons > William, Granville, Henry, and Robert. His wife's name was either Eliza > or Elizabeth. I am descended from his son, Henry. > If Stuart Jordan is still on this list, might you respond to this > issue? > Thanks, > Carole Hays > Quitman, Louisiana > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

Sorry, has to be male only. Father to Son to Son. Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mmhayton@aol.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Jordan DNA > Is it possible to get a reliable DNA result if the line is interrupted by a > female? My great great grandfather was John Mathis or Matthew Jordan, from > Alabama, who came to Hopkins County, Texas and settled in Black Jack Grove near > Sulphur Springs and married Margaret Minerva Elder. My great grandmother was > one of four girls, Mary Elizabeth Jordan. There were no boys. He formed a > Cavalry unit and fought in the Civil War. Records say he was wounded but > recovered and eventually moved the family to Pilot Point, Texas in Denton County, > Texas. Does this sound familiar to anyone? > > Mmhayton@aol.com > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

Is it possible to get a reliable DNA result if the line is interrupted by a female? My great great grandfather was John Mathis or Matthew Jordan, from Alabama, who came to Hopkins County, Texas and settled in Black Jack Grove near Sulphur Springs and married Margaret Minerva Elder. My great grandmother was one of four girls, Mary Elizabeth Jordan. There were no boys. He formed a Cavalry unit and fought in the Civil War. Records say he was wounded but recovered and eventually moved the family to Pilot Point, Texas in Denton County, Texas. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Mmhayton@aol.com

Here are the two paragraphs on "William Jordan" It is a known fact that a William Jordan and his wife emigrated to Southern Kentucky before they went to Indiana. Records support this fact, fpr a William Jordan doed om Tippercanoe County, Indiana, before 1830 and left a will in which he names his sons as: John, Miles, Levi, Jesse, James, and William. Because this William Jordan gave his sons these names is almost positive proof that he was the son of Elizabeth and Edward Jordan, for many of the names of his children were the same names as the names of Edward and Susannah Jordan. There is another William Jordan, who is sometimes con- fused with the preceding William Jordan. This William Jordan was born in Virginia in the year 1748, was a soldier in the American Revolution, married in 1769 to Sally Wood who was born in 1753, moved to Triune, Tennessee, and died there in 1822.. This William was probably, because of dates, the son of Mathew Jordan, son of Samuel Jordan, the ninth son of Thomas Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan This William Jordan left issue: William, Granville, Henry, and Robert. (The above is exactly how it is written in Mrs. Perry's book) Collene Mount 7/4/04 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Hays" <cjhays@bayou.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 12:32 AM Subject: [JORDAN] Re: Samuel Jordan Descendants > On July 2, 2004, Collene Mount sent in an exerpt from the book, > "These Jordans Were Here," by Octavia Jordan Perry. In the first > paragraph, beginning "There are two William Jordans..." is a sentence > which reads "This William Jordan. because of probably the son of > Matthew, who was a son of Samuel Jordan and the ninth son of Thomas > Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan." > Undoubtedly some of this sentence has been omitted because it doesn't > make sense the way it is written. > Could Collene Mount please check and see if this is what is written > in Octavia Jordan Perry's book? > Thanks, > Carole Hays > Quitman, Louisiana > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

In the exerpt from Octavia Jordan Perry's book, "These Jordans Were Here," it is stated that "...William Jordan, born in Virginia in 1748, was a soldier in American Revolution, married Sallie Wood who was born in 1753. This William moved to Triune, Tennessee and died there in 1822." A little further on it is stated that "This William had issue: William, Granville, Henry, and Robert." According to information I have gotten from a couple of Jordan researchers, my g-g-g grandfather, William Jordan, was born ca 1830 in King and Queen Co., VA. He moved to Williamson Co., TN, and had sons William, Granville, Henry, and Robert. His wife's name was either Eliza or Elizabeth. I am descended from his son, Henry. If Stuart Jordan is still on this list, might you respond to this issue? Thanks, Carole Hays Quitman, Louisiana

On July 2, 2004, Collene Mount sent in an exerpt from the book, "These Jordans Were Here," by Octavia Jordan Perry. In the first paragraph, beginning "There are two William Jordans..." is a sentence which reads "This William Jordan. because of probably the son of Matthew, who was a son of Samuel Jordan and the ninth son of Thomas Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan." Undoubtedly some of this sentence has been omitted because it doesn't make sense the way it is written. Could Collene Mount please check and see if this is what is written in Octavia Jordan Perry's book? Thanks, Carole Hays Quitman, Louisiana

Has anyone ever heard of a William Perry Jordan born about 1825/7? Pat Saletore -----Original Message----- From: Carole Hays [mailto:cjhays@bayou.com] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:33 PM To: JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [JORDAN] Re: Samuel Jordan Descendants On July 2, 2004, Collene Mount sent in an exerpt from the book, "These Jordans Were Here," by Octavia Jordan Perry. In the first paragraph, beginning "There are two William Jordans..." is a sentence which reads "This William Jordan. because of probably the son of Matthew, who was a son of Samuel Jordan and the ninth son of Thomas Jordan of Chuckatuck, and the brother of Colonel Samuel Jordan." Undoubtedly some of this sentence has been omitted because it doesn't make sense the way it is written. Could Collene Mount please check and see if this is what is written in Octavia Jordan Perry's book? Thanks, Carole Hays Quitman, Louisiana ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm

Debra ... I have seen an excellent example that will answer your question in the HOOPER family DNA project. A man from Illinois researching the surname BRYSON submitted his DNA sample and learned something unexpected. His BRYSON ancestor, who was born in North Carolina around 1790, was actually a HOOPER. Although there is a possibility that there was some marital "hanky-panky" happening way back then, there is a greater likelihood that the HOOPER child was orphaned and taken into the BRYSON family and raised as one of their own. This Bryson/Hooper example is found at: http://www.hooperconnections.com/dnatable.html Click on the name 'Bryson' and you can see the lineage chart for that family. At the site for HOOPER DNA results, the participants give permission for their direct lineage to be posted. Other Hooper researchers can compare their known and documented ancestors to see if DNA results can link them to older generations or to other family branches. I would like to see JORDAN results posted in this manner also. ...Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: Debra Pate To: JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Enoch Jordan of Tennessee Larry, When a person does DNA test.....do they compare the DNA only with those who carry the same last name or with all the participants of the DNA research no matter what their last name? If you want your DNA compared to more than one surname (I have a good reason for this) is it the same price? Thanks, Debra

When you participate in a surname DNA project done by Family Tree DNA, your DNA results are compared with every participant in the DNA projects done by FTDNA. If there are matches at the 12 or 25 marker levels, FTDNA will tell you by e-mail. If you have a match with someone who is not in the Jordan project, you can still contact that match through e-mail. If their surname group has a web site, you can go to the site for additional family information. Most of the surname projects have web sites to display their results. Go to the following site to see the FTDNA surname projects that are underway: http://www.ftdna.com/ You can also enter your DNA results into DNA search engines to find other matches not done by FTDNA. Those databases also give you matches in other countries so you can see migration path information. Go to the following web page for more information about this type of search: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/JordanDNAYSTRdatabase.html When I enter my family DNA into a genealogy database, I get many matches in Norwegian and Scandinavian areas.

Larry, When a person does DNA test.....do they compare the DNA only with those who carry the same last name or with all the participants of the DNA research no matter what their last name? If you want your DNA compared to more than one surname (I have a good reason for this) is it the same price? Thanks, Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: LJordan316@aol.com To: JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Enoch Jordan of Tennessee The full story of the Enoch Jordan who migrated to Alabama is shown at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/JordanMigrationNCAL.html Through the Jordan Surname DNA Project, we have connected this William Enoch Jordan to two other Jordan families that were not connected by paper before the project started. One of these families migrated from VA to West Virginia. The second migrated from Coosa Co, AL to Texas. The DNA Project has proven that William Enoch was related to the following Jordan males: - Jonas Jordan b 1755, Amelia Co, VA - George Jordan, Sr b 1784, Bedford Co., VA The DNA project is shown at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html Through the DNA project, the database of RECENT ETHNIC ORIGINS (REO) was compared with the results from participant J4274 (my ancestors) who matched with J4358 to determine the country of origin of the family. While the DNA for J4274 did not provide an exact match with a known country of origin, the results indicate a strong connection with Nordic (Scandanavian) countries, including Norway, Finland and Sweden. Specifically, the strong matches were in the HG2 Nordic Haplogroup, one of two Nordic Haplogroups. This indicates that the family of origin that immigated to America were probably of Viking descent or a male ancestor was of Viking blood. The data also indicates England or Scotland as possible, but less likely, countries of origin. Larry Jordan Jordan Surname DNA Project Webmaster http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/r/Larry-E-Jordan/ ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm

The full story of the Enoch Jordan who migrated to Alabama is shown at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/JordanMigrationNCAL.html Through the Jordan Surname DNA Project, we have connected this William Enoch Jordan to two other Jordan families that were not connected by paper before the project started. One of these families migrated from VA to West Virginia. The second migrated from Coosa Co, AL to Texas. The DNA Project has proven that William Enoch was related to the following Jordan males: - Jonas Jordan b 1755, Amelia Co, VA - George Jordan, Sr b 1784, Bedford Co., VA The DNA project is shown at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html Through the DNA project, the database of RECENT ETHNIC ORIGINS (REO) was compared with the results from participant J4274 (my ancestors) who matched with J4358 to determine the country of origin of the family. While the DNA for J4274 did not provide an exact match with a known country of origin, the results indicate a strong connection with Nordic (Scandanavian) countries, including Norway, Finland and Sweden. Specifically, the strong matches were in the HG2 Nordic Haplogroup, one of two Nordic Haplogroups. This indicates that the family of origin that immigated to America were probably of Viking descent or a male ancestor was of Viking blood. The data also indicates England or Scotland as possible, but less likely, countries of origin. Larry Jordan Jordan Surname DNA Project Webmaster http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/r/Larry-E-Jordan/

My brick wall Jordan ancestor was also an Enoch -- he was William Enoch Jordan from North Carolina. He named one of his sons Enoch. The name must have been popular in the Jordan line in NC around 1800. The story of my Enoch is shown below: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/JordanMigrationNCAL.html If you see any connection with your Enoch, I would be excited to know the details. Larry Jordan Jordan Surname DNA Webmaster http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/r/Larry-E-Jordan/

http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/TT/ccj.htm Do any of you have any idea who this JORDAN man might be? Seems that he could easily be my Thomas S Jordan's nephew, given that he lived in Girard, where Thomas' little daughter is buried, and given the name Joseph, which was the name of Thomas' oldest son. Thomas was also a politician - Democrat - and a Mason - Any assistance would be much appreciated - Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> <carolch@bellsouth.net> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

Thanks, Sheri for this information on Enoch Jordan and others, I am sure it will help someone else with their family tree. Collene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheri Kelly" <bluemoonrotts@yahoo.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:28 PM Subject: [JORDAN] Enoch Jordan of Tennessee > List: > > I can provide a bit of back ground on the Enoch Jordan who was born c 1815 in NC, and died after 1880 in KY. This Enoch has been found near Ewel Jordan born c 1807 in NC and died after 1880 in Claiborne Co., TN. Both of these men have been found living near a Woodford Jordan born c 1781 in VA and died between 1850 and 1860 in TN. > > Ewel married Elizabeth McCoy, daughter of David McCoy and Margaret Norton McCoy and this couple resided in Claiborne Co., TN and their children were James 1829, Thomas 1831, Aurena 1840. There is Houston/Hueston Jordan who resided with this family in 1880 and is a servant, and then a granddaughter Sarah is listed in the 1880 census but I do not know which child is the parent of Sarah born 1859. I have never found any marriage record for James, Thomas, or Aurena and these children were living with their parents still in 1880 with all listed as never married. Ewel became quite wealthy and local history has both James and Thomas being the fathers of several children without benefit of marriage. I have never been able to determine who the parents are of this Ewel but I have found a Thomas Jordan born in Henderson Co., NC in 1808 who married an Abigail Payne and this couple went to KY. Their children were Ewel 1835, William O. 1839, H. Woodson 1840, Thomas W. 1844, Nancy 18! > 47, > Louisa 1849, Sarah Ann c 1850-1860, Darcus 1853, Almira 1855, Alabama America 1856, James 1857, Robert 1864. (Thanks Alvin Jordan for this data.) > > Enoch Jordan born c 1815, I do not know his parentage either. Enoch married Alice "Ally" Coffey, daughter of Jane Coffey. I am a Coffey researcher and I believe this Jane Coffey is the daughter of Benjamin Coffey, and a sister to my Bennett Coffey but have never found any documents to substain this theory. Jane Coffey is found near Enoch, Ewel, Woodford, and my Coffey's Benjamin, Bennett, and Caswell in several sequencial censuses. Ally's dates are c 1813-after 1880. The children of Enoch Jordan and Ally Coffey Jordan are Calton 1834, Calvin 1839, Abigail 1840, Thomas 1843, Riley 1845, John 1849, Nancy 1851, Houston (remember Ewel above? These Houston's are born 2 years apart.) 1853, James 1859, and Marvel 1861. > > Enoch and Ally left Tennessee after the Civil War ended and were found in Rockcastle Co., Ky by 1880, living with Marvel Coffey, their son-in-law who married Abigail in 1859 Hancock Co., TN. Both Enoch and Ally are buried in the Marvel Coffey cemetery in Rockcastle Co., KY. > > (Calton and Calvin Coffey (twins of Benjamin Coffey and Nancy Hayes Coffey are named after this Calton and Calvin Jordan. This Benjamin Coffey is a grandson of Benjamin Coffey whom I believe Ally's mother Jane Coffey's father is.) > > I do have brief notes on an Enos Jordan who was found in Caswell District, NC 1790 Tax List and have no other information. In doing some reading on these Jordan lines I am working on I do recall seeing that there was another Enoch born c 1804 in NC who did go to Alabama and married (a Jemimia is one spouse but I do not know if she is the mother) and he had a son Enoch born 1834. It is this Enoch born 1834 who married an Elizabeth Batson and they named one of their daughers Arena born 1855 , which is very similar to Ewel's daughter Aurena born 1840. > > Sheri Kelly in Louisiana > > > :hcm100130@troycable.net writes: > >From a Will of Elizabeth and her husband, Samuel Jordan (Will 1834) of Giles County, Tennessee, it is recorded that their children were: Archibald Moore Jordan, Pleasants Harvey Jordan; son-in-law John Hawkins; daughters Elizabeth N. Johnson, and Sarah W. Jennings. The names of the children sound a lot like the Jordan names from North Carolina, so it is thought that this Samuel was the grandson of Josiah and Moourning Rix Jordan. This paragraph in Octavia's book is in error. I am a descendant of Archibald Moore Jordan. His father was Enoch Jordan and mother Elizabeth Stepp. Elizabeth Stepp Jordan left a Will filed in 1844 in Giles Co. Tn. The widow of Samuel Jordan also Elizabeth was still living in a different taxing district. The 1844 Will of Elizabeth (wife of Enoch) names Heirs of son John deceased, Mary Dickey (wife of Matthew), Nancy Gibson (wife of James), Archibald Moore Jordan (wife Lucinda Brown), William Jordan and Pleasants Harvey Jordan, grandson. (We assume ! > P! > leasants > Harvey was the oldest son of John (Jonathon)). The location of Elizabeth at her death was near the community of Dianah in the northeast corner of Giles Co. The Samuel Jordan widow lived more in the southcentral area of Giles closer to the Alabama border. Octavia did a fabulous job for the Jordan's but she was not perfect and we have spent a great deal of time untangling her error on our line. We have been unable to establish the parentage of Enoch. He is first found in Orange Co. NC in 1790. There is probably a relationship between him and a Robert and Thomas also of that county. A Thomas married Prudence Hargis. A Robert married Anne Pinkerton widow of David Pinkerton and Robert's second wife. Later in about 1823 purchases of quartersections of land in Lauderdale Co AL were adjacent: Matthew Dickey, Enoch Jordan and Robert Jordan. The land was located about 6 miles sounth of Giles Co. TN and 3 miles west of Limestone Co. AL We have been unable to track Robert Jordan. Enoch! > moved > back to Giles by 1830 census and does not appear on 1840 census but his widow (?) Elizabeth does and Samuel's widow Elizabeth does. La Nita Jordan Wacker > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! 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There is an Enoch Jordan of, I believe, Hawkins Co. Tn b. ca 1811 who is different than my Enoch who may have been born ca 1768. He was a bondsman for his brother-in-law Joshua Stepp who married Nicey Dollarhide in 1789 Caswell Co. NC. He would have to be "of age" to be a bondsman. La N

There is an Enoch Jordan of, I believe, Hawkins Co. Tn b. ca 1811 who is different than my Enoch who may have been born ca 1768. He was a bondsman for his brother-in-law Joshua Stepp who married Nicey Dollarhide in 1789 Caswell Co. NC. He would have to be "of age" to be a bondsman. La Nita Jordan Wacker

List: I can provide a bit of back ground on the Enoch Jordan who was born c 1815 in NC, and died after 1880 in KY. This Enoch has been found near Ewel Jordan born c 1807 in NC and died after 1880 in Claiborne Co., TN. Both of these men have been found living near a Woodford Jordan born c 1781 in VA and died between 1850 and 1860 in TN. Ewel married Elizabeth McCoy, daughter of David McCoy and Margaret Norton McCoy and this couple resided in Claiborne Co., TN and their children were James 1829, Thomas 1831, Aurena 1840. There is Houston/Hueston Jordan who resided with this family in 1880 and is a servant, and then a granddaughter Sarah is listed in the 1880 census but I do not know which child is the parent of Sarah born 1859. I have never found any marriage record for James, Thomas, or Aurena and these children were living with their parents still in 1880 with all listed as never married. Ewel became quite wealthy and local history has both James and Thomas being the fathers of several children without benefit of marriage. I have never been able to determine who the parents are of this Ewel but I have found a Thomas Jordan born in Henderson Co., NC in 1808 who married an Abigail Payne and this couple went to KY. Their children were Ewel 1835, William O. 1839, H. Woodson 1840, Thomas W. 1844, Nancy 18! 47, Louisa 1849, Sarah Ann c 1850-1860, Darcus 1853, Almira 1855, Alabama America 1856, James 1857, Robert 1864. (Thanks Alvin Jordan for this data.) Enoch Jordan born c 1815, I do not know his parentage either. Enoch married Alice "Ally" Coffey, daughter of Jane Coffey. I am a Coffey researcher and I believe this Jane Coffey is the daughter of Benjamin Coffey, and a sister to my Bennett Coffey but have never found any documents to substain this theory. Jane Coffey is found near Enoch, Ewel, Woodford, and my Coffey's Benjamin, Bennett, and Caswell in several sequencial censuses. Ally's dates are c 1813-after 1880. The children of Enoch Jordan and Ally Coffey Jordan are Calton 1834, Calvin 1839, Abigail 1840, Thomas 1843, Riley 1845, John 1849, Nancy 1851, Houston (remember Ewel above? These Houston's are born 2 years apart.) 1853, James 1859, and Marvel 1861. Enoch and Ally left Tennessee after the Civil War ended and were found in Rockcastle Co., Ky by 1880, living with Marvel Coffey, their son-in-law who married Abigail in 1859 Hancock Co., TN. Both Enoch and Ally are buried in the Marvel Coffey cemetery in Rockcastle Co., KY. (Calton and Calvin Coffey (twins of Benjamin Coffey and Nancy Hayes Coffey are named after this Calton and Calvin Jordan. This Benjamin Coffey is a grandson of Benjamin Coffey whom I believe Ally's mother Jane Coffey's father is.) I do have brief notes on an Enos Jordan who was found in Caswell District, NC 1790 Tax List and have no other information. In doing some reading on these Jordan lines I am working on I do recall seeing that there was another Enoch born c 1804 in NC who did go to Alabama and married (a Jemimia is one spouse but I do not know if she is the mother) and he had a son Enoch born 1834. It is this Enoch born 1834 who married an Elizabeth Batson and they named one of their daughers Arena born 1855 , which is very similar to Ewel's daughter Aurena born 1840. Sheri Kelly in Louisiana :hcm100130@troycable.net writes: From a Will of Elizabeth and her husband, Samuel Jordan (Will 1834) of Giles County, Tennessee, it is recorded that their children were: Archibald Moore Jordan, Pleasants Harvey Jordan; son-in-law John Hawkins; daughters Elizabeth N. Johnson, and Sarah W. Jennings. The names of the children sound a lot like the Jordan names from North Carolina, so it is thought that this Samuel was the grandson of Josiah and Moourning Rix Jordan. This paragraph in Octavia's book is in error. I am a descendant of Archibald Moore Jordan. His father was Enoch Jordan and mother Elizabeth Stepp. Elizabeth Stepp Jordan left a Will filed in 1844 in Giles Co. Tn. The widow of Samuel Jordan also Elizabeth was still living in a different taxing district. The 1844 Will of Elizabeth (wife of Enoch) names Heirs of son John deceased, Mary Dickey (wife of Matthew), Nancy Gibson (wife of James), Archibald Moore Jordan (wife Lucinda Brown), William Jordan and Pleasants Harvey Jordan, grandson. (We assume P! leasants Harvey was the oldest son of John (Jonathon)). The location of Elizabeth at her death was near the community of Dianah in the northeast corner of Giles Co. The Samuel Jordan widow lived more in the southcentral area of Giles closer to the Alabama border. Octavia did a fabulous job for the Jordan's but she was not perfect and we have spent a great deal of time untangling her error on our line. We have been unable to establish the parentage of Enoch. He is first found in Orange Co. NC in 1790. There is probably a relationship between him and a Robert and Thomas also of that county. A Thomas married Prudence Hargis. A Robert married Anne Pinkerton widow of David Pinkerton and Robert's second wife. Later in about 1823 purchases of quartersections of land in Lauderdale Co AL were adjacent: Matthew Dickey, Enoch Jordan and Robert Jordan. The land was located about 6 miles sounth of Giles Co. TN and 3 miles west of Limestone Co. AL We have been unable to track Robert Jordan. Enoch! moved back to Giles by 1830 census and does not appear on 1840 census but his widow (?) Elizabeth does and Samuel's widow Elizabeth does. 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