Hi all, I am a descendant of Thomas JORDAN born in Northern Ireland about 1835 and JosephineRICHARDSON/RICKERTON born in Pennsylvania. Both Thomas and Josephine had died before 1900 while 2 children were still fairly young. Most of their children lived with Josephine's mother Matie at 316 Oregon Ave in South Philadelphia according to the 1900 census. Their son Thomas W. and his wife Emily (Emily came here to the USA from England about 1900) married and had a son Thomas about 1909 in PA. They later moved to Camden, NJ. Thomas (1909) married a New Jersey girl named Ella. My grandmother Ella (nee) JORDAN (1918) thinks that her father's sister Sloan JORDAN (1879) married a PASCOE. My grandmother is somehow related to Mabel, Helen and Hokey PASCOE. My grandmother also told me that her father's sister Anna May married a George. Unfortunately I wrote his last name in gibberish for some reason! It could be SHEED or SIGEL or SEGAL. Then Anna May married a John SHULMAN. I didn't put Anna May's or Sloane's info in my tree because I haven't documented it yet. 1      Thomas Jordan    1835 - according to 1880 Phila., PA. census ..        +Josephine Richardson/Rickerton    1853 - according to 1880 Phila.,PA. census...            2      Florence Jordan    1873 - .......        +Joseph McClellan    1875 - Unknown ...        *2nd Husband of Florence Jordan:     .......        +? Farrell     ........    3      child Farrell     ........    3      child Farrell     ...    2      Thomas W. Jordan    1875 - Unknown .......        +Emily    1880 - Unknown ........    3      Thomas Jordan    1909 - Unknown ............        +Ella    1909 - Unknown .............    4      Iris Jordan    1926 - .............    4      Thomasina Jordan    1927 - ...    2      William Jordan    1877 - .......        +Margaret Weikel    1881 - ........    3      John Jordan    1905 - 1910 ........    3      William Jordan    1906 - ............        +Louise McWilliams     ........    3      Thomas Jordan    1908 - ............        +Ann Dilesse     ........    3      Joseph Jordan    1911 - ............        +Marie Shea     .............    4      Joseph Jordan     .............    4      John Jordan     ........        *2nd Wife of Joseph Jordan:     ............        +Catherine ?     .............    4      Diane Jordan     .............    4      Patrick Jordan     .............    4      George Jordan     .............    4      William Jordan     .............    4      Joanne Jordan     ........    3      Margaret Jordan    1913 - ........    3      Louis Jordan    1915 - ............        +Cass McGoghlin     ........    3      Earl Jordan    1916 - ............        +Emma Younger     .............    4      Earl Jordan Jr.     ........    3      Ella Margaret Jordan    1918 - ............        +Louis Robert Kircher    1913 - 1982 .............    4      Ella Marguerite Kircher    1939 - .................        +James Joseph Coleman    1940 - 1988 .......................    5    Ella Coleman  1966 (Me!)   .............    4      Louis Kircher    1948 - .................        +Maureen Coco    about 1948 ........    3      Roy Jordan    1924 - ...    2      Sloan Jordan    1879 - ...    2      Howard Jordan    1881 - Unknown .......        +Mary    1886 - Unknown ........    3      Howard Jordan    1915 - ........    3      Edna Jordan    1917 - ...    2      Anna May Jordan    1885 - If anyone has any connections, I would love to hear from you! Be sure to check out my website. I added many more links and I updated my family info. If you have any good free sites that I can add to my assorted categories, just drop me a line. <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/ella12866/index.html">http://members.aol.com/ella12866/index.html</A> Take care, Ella

Who: All descendants of Willis and Annie (Smith) Jordan of Thomas County Georgia including related surnames: Bloodworth, Cannon, Cone, Griffin, Pyles, Hampton, Hobbs, Oliver, Pittman, Powers, Terry, Thompson, Ulmer When: Saturday, October 12, 2002. 10:00 a.m. until ..... Where: Chapter House in Barwick, Brooks County, Georgia Shared covered dish dinner at about 12:00 or 12:30 p.m. Come share good company and good food! For more information contact: Walter S. Jordan 229-683-0081 (Ochlocknee, GA) or Mary Ellen Jordan 850-973-2712 (Madison, FL).

Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 04:07:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Jordan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [JORDAN] Re: JORDAN-D Digest V02 #120 My question is to Bob Jordan: Specifically, how are DNA sample obtained from those long dead? Also, I remember the cost per person participating in this genealogical DNA testing project, but it escapes my poor memory. Please, refresh. I may have found another male Jordan for the project. Karen Trull Jordan Of course we can't obtain samples from the long dead unless we dig up the bones, but we can get the samples from male, living descendants of the long gone. They should have the same Y Chromosomes. The cost for the 12 marker test is $99 (which will get you into the ball bark) or $169 for the 25 marker test, which is more accurate when comparing different Jordan families. Please let me know what I can do to help with a new testing member. Bob

--part1_c8.2d9a2caf.2ac5f496_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following webpage gives you links to pages that explain all elements of the Jordan DNA testing: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html We have just added new pages that explain how the test results can help you find ancestors. See the following page for that information: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/JordanDNAProjecMRCA.html Please let me know if there is something that you do not find on those pages. Larry Jordan Charlotte, NC Visit my genealogy sites at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/index.html http://www.homestead.com/lumbee/ http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/r/Larry-E-Jordan/ --part1_c8.2d9a2caf.2ac5f496_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (rly-xb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.105]) by air-xb01.mail.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINXB13-0926070821; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:08:21 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.41]) by rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB49-0926070737; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:07:37 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g8QB7PU5030683; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 05:07:25 -0600 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 05:07:25 -0600 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Sep 26 05:07:24 2002 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 04:07:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Jordan <[email protected]> Old-To: [email protected] In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [JORDAN] Re: JORDAN-D Digest V02 #120 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/3462 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists5.rootsweb.com id g8QB7PU5030683 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) My question is to Bob Jordan: Specifically, how are DNA sample obtained from those long dead? Also, I remember the cost per person participating in this genealogical DNA testing project, but it escapes my poor memory. Please, refresh. I may have found another male Jordan for the project. Karen Trull Jordan --- [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822=20 >=20 > JORDAN-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 120 >=20 > Today's Topics: > #1 [JORDAN] JORDAN info =20 > [[email protected] (Cheryl Thompson] > #2 [JORDAN] Anyone know these Jordans [Earl > Cullison <[email protected]] > #3 [JORDAN] Most Recent Common Ancest ["Robert > Jordan" <[email protected]>] >=20 > Administrivia: > JORDAN list website - > http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/JORDAN.htm >=20 > =20 > ****************************************************** >=20 > To unsubscribe from JORDAN-D, send a message to=20 > [email protected] > that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, > too. =20 >=20 > =20 > ****************************************************** >=20 >=20 > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822=20 > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:21:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] (Cheryl Thompson) > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] JORDAN info >=20 > This is forwarded (with permission) from Somebody's > Links at > www.petuniapress.com=20 > Hope it helps someone...=20 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=20 > ANTIGUA and BARBADOS. Tombstones and Burials. > Searchable indexes provide > last name, other names, date of birth, date of > death, site, and notes > (e.g. from the Barbados page: JORDAN, Elizabeth, > 1695, 1761 Sep 6, St. > George, Notes: Doctor WALKER). Updated monthly. > http://24.42.45.104/ > =A0=A0=A0=A0Antigua: http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/antigua/ > =A0=A0Barbados: http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/barbados/ >=20 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=20 > Regards, > ~Cheryl~ >=20 > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822=20 > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:20:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Earl Cullison <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] Anyone know these Jordans? >=20 > Hello everyone, > I found some more Jordan cousin through another of > my > family lines.I wonder if anyone knows about these?? >=20 > I certainly hope we can find a connection. My > Grandfather Charles Oscar Jordan was born in 1887 > Buffalo-Putnam Co. W.Va. He died in 1979 in Nitro at > 93 years. He was married to Josephine Fisher in 1909 > in Buffalo. They had two sons: Charles Gideon (Bus) > Jordan born about 1910 and my father Garland Clayton > Jordan born 1912-1986. He married Jannie Louise > Morris > in 1934 at Marmet W.Va. > He just found another name.It is Mary Rood, > Charles > Oscar Jordan's aunt born in 1866. > Thanks, Earl >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com >=20 > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822=20 > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:47:39 -0300 > From: "Robert Jordan" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] Most Recent Common Ancestor DNA >=20 > I joined a new list about DNA uses in genealogy. > This is a place where you can ask questions and look > at answers using their archives concerning family > DNA - very useful. Please see one answer concerning > comparisons of DNA between members of a family. >=20 > Bob Jordan >=20 > X-Message: #4 > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:48:19 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DNA] DNA Question > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" > In a message dated 09/22/02 10:01:38 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, =20 > [email protected] writes: >=20 > > I know absolutely nothing about DNA, other than > what I have read recently on =20 > > a web site. I have a relative (maybe), with whom I > think I share a common =20 > > ancestor. It would his 2nd great grandfather, as > he is 94 years of age, and =20 > > my 4th great grandfather. If we both had the > Genealogy DNA test, would it =20 > > tell us if we were related, and if so, > approximately how many generations? =20 > > We both share the same surname and probably are > related somewhere in the =20 > > past, but could the test determine if the > relationship is within the last 4 =20 > > generations? > The Y chromosome DNA tests can't tell you exactly > how many generations ago =20 > your MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) lived. =20 > Most of the time, a son's Y chromosome results will > exactly match his father, =20 > but occasionally, a mutation will occur. Scientists > have compared several =20 > thousand examples of father-son Y chromosome tests, > so we have some idea of =20 > the average mutation rate, which is about two times > in a thousand when you =20 > are looking at a specific marker. But mutations are > random events, and you =20 > cannot predict when it will occur. =20 > All we know is that the more generations have > elapsed, the more likely you =20 > are to encounter a mutation. So if you compared 100 > pairs of men whose MRCA =20 > lived 4 generations ago with 100 pairs of men whose > MRCA lived 8 generations =20 > ago, you would find more mutations in the second > group. But you will find =20 > some mutations in the first group and some perfect > matches in the second =20 > group. > The MRCA calculator I described in a second message > today gives you a RANGE =20 > of possibilities as a function of the mutation rate > and the number of markers =20 > tested. The range is called the 95% confidence > interval, and it is quite =20 > wide. But the calculator assumes that the two people > in question are randomly =20 > selected out of a pool of men who have matching > results on their Y test (they =20 > have the same "haplotype"). They may not even have > the same surname -- all we =20 > know is that their haplotypes are identical. > Now in your case, you are not dealing with two > randomly selected people. You =20 > already have some reasons to believe that the two > people have a specific =20 > common ancestor. If the test results match (or are > very similar), this =20 > supports your hypothesis, but it does not prove it. > If the test results are =20 > very different, then you know your hypothesis is > wrong. > Ann Turner [email protected] > GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator =20 > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html > DNA preservation kits: http://www.dnafiler.com >=20 > Bob Jordan > [email protected] >=20 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com =3D=3D=3D=3D JORDAN Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D JORDAN list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/JORDAN.htm --part1_c8.2d9a2caf.2ac5f496_boundary--

My question is to Bob Jordan: Specifically, how are DNA sample obtained from those long dead? Also, I remember the cost per person participating in this genealogical DNA testing project, but it escapes my poor memory. Please, refresh. I may have found another male Jordan for the project. Karen Trull Jordan --- [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > JORDAN-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 120 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [JORDAN] JORDAN info > [[email protected] (Cheryl Thompson] > #2 [JORDAN] Anyone know these Jordans [Earl > Cullison <[email protected]] > #3 [JORDAN] Most Recent Common Ancest ["Robert > Jordan" <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > JORDAN list website - > http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/JORDAN.htm > > > ****************************************************** > > To unsubscribe from JORDAN-D, send a message to > [email protected] > that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, > too. > > > ****************************************************** > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:21:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] (Cheryl Thompson) > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] JORDAN info > > This is forwarded (with permission) from Somebody's > Links at > www.petuniapress.com > Hope it helps someone... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ANTIGUA and BARBADOS. Tombstones and Burials. > Searchable indexes provide > last name, other names, date of birth, date of > death, site, and notes > (e.g. from the Barbados page: JORDAN, Elizabeth, > 1695, 1761 Sep 6, St. > George, Notes: Doctor WALKER). Updated monthly. > http://24.42.45.104/ > ����Antigua: http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/antigua/ > ��Barbados: http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/barbados/ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Regards, > ~Cheryl~ > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:20:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Earl Cullison <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] Anyone know these Jordans? > > Hello everyone, > I found some more Jordan cousin through another of > my > family lines.I wonder if anyone knows about these?? > > I certainly hope we can find a connection. My > Grandfather Charles Oscar Jordan was born in 1887 > Buffalo-Putnam Co. W.Va. He died in 1979 in Nitro at > 93 years. He was married to Josephine Fisher in 1909 > in Buffalo. They had two sons: Charles Gideon (Bus) > Jordan born about 1910 and my father Garland Clayton > Jordan born 1912-1986. He married Jannie Louise > Morris > in 1934 at Marmet W.Va. > He just found another name.It is Mary Rood, > Charles > Oscar Jordan's aunt born in 1866. > Thanks, Earl > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:47:39 -0300 > From: "Robert Jordan" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [JORDAN] Most Recent Common Ancestor DNA > > I joined a new list about DNA uses in genealogy. > This is a place where you can ask questions and look > at answers using their archives concerning family > DNA - very useful. Please see one answer concerning > comparisons of DNA between members of a family. > > Bob Jordan > > X-Message: #4 > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:48:19 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DNA] DNA Question > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > In a message dated 09/22/02 10:01:38 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I know absolutely nothing about DNA, other than > what I have read recently on > > a web site. I have a relative (maybe), with whom I > think I share a common > > ancestor. It would his 2nd great grandfather, as > he is 94 years of age, and > > my 4th great grandfather. If we both had the > Genealogy DNA test, would it > > tell us if we were related, and if so, > approximately how many generations? > > We both share the same surname and probably are > related somewhere in the > > past, but could the test determine if the > relationship is within the last 4 > > generations? > The Y chromosome DNA tests can't tell you exactly > how many generations ago > your MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) lived. > Most of the time, a son's Y chromosome results will > exactly match his father, > but occasionally, a mutation will occur. Scientists > have compared several > thousand examples of father-son Y chromosome tests, > so we have some idea of > the average mutation rate, which is about two times > in a thousand when you > are looking at a specific marker. But mutations are > random events, and you > cannot predict when it will occur. > All we know is that the more generations have > elapsed, the more likely you > are to encounter a mutation. So if you compared 100 > pairs of men whose MRCA > lived 4 generations ago with 100 pairs of men whose > MRCA lived 8 generations > ago, you would find more mutations in the second > group. But you will find > some mutations in the first group and some perfect > matches in the second > group. > The MRCA calculator I described in a second message > today gives you a RANGE > of possibilities as a function of the mutation rate > and the number of markers > tested. The range is called the 95% confidence > interval, and it is quite > wide. But the calculator assumes that the two people > in question are randomly > selected out of a pool of men who have matching > results on their Y test (they > have the same "haplotype"). They may not even have > the same surname -- all we > know is that their haplotypes are identical. > Now in your case, you are not dealing with two > randomly selected people. You > already have some reasons to believe that the two > people have a specific > common ancestor. If the test results match (or are > very similar), this > supports your hypothesis, but it does not prove it. > If the test results are > very different, then you know your hypothesis is > wrong. > Ann Turner [email protected] > GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html > DNA preservation kits: http://www.dnafiler.com > > Bob Jordan > [email protected] > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com

I joined a new list about DNA uses in genealogy. This is a place where you can ask questions and look at answers using their archives concerning family DNA - very useful. Please see one answer concerning comparisons of DNA between members of a family. Bob Jordan X-Message: #4 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:48:19 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DNA] DNA Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 09/22/02 10:01:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I know absolutely nothing about DNA, other than what I have read recently on > a web site. I have a relative (maybe), with whom I think I share a common > ancestor. It would his 2nd great grandfather, as he is 94 years of age, and > my 4th great grandfather. If we both had the Genealogy DNA test, would it > tell us if we were related, and if so, approximately how many generations? > We both share the same surname and probably are related somewhere in the > past, but could the test determine if the relationship is within the last 4 > generations? The Y chromosome DNA tests can't tell you exactly how many generations ago your MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) lived. Most of the time, a son's Y chromosome results will exactly match his father, but occasionally, a mutation will occur. Scientists have compared several thousand examples of father-son Y chromosome tests, so we have some idea of the average mutation rate, which is about two times in a thousand when you are looking at a specific marker. But mutations are random events, and you cannot predict when it will occur. All we know is that the more generations have elapsed, the more likely you are to encounter a mutation. So if you compared 100 pairs of men whose MRCA lived 4 generations ago with 100 pairs of men whose MRCA lived 8 generations ago, you would find more mutations in the second group. But you will find some mutations in the first group and some perfect matches in the second group. The MRCA calculator I described in a second message today gives you a RANGE of possibilities as a function of the mutation rate and the number of markers tested. The range is called the 95% confidence interval, and it is quite wide. But the calculator assumes that the two people in question are randomly selected out of a pool of men who have matching results on their Y test (they have the same "haplotype"). They may not even have the same surname -- all we know is that their haplotypes are identical. Now in your case, you are not dealing with two randomly selected people. You already have some reasons to believe that the two people have a specific common ancestor. If the test results match (or are very similar), this supports your hypothesis, but it does not prove it. If the test results are very different, then you know your hypothesis is wrong. Ann Turner [email protected] GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html DNA preservation kits: http://www.dnafiler.com Bob Jordan [email protected]

This is forwarded (with permission) from Somebody's Links at www.petuniapress.com Hope it helps someone... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ANTIGUA and BARBADOS. Tombstones and Burials. Searchable indexes provide last name, other names, date of birth, date of death, site, and notes (e.g. from the Barbados page: JORDAN, Elizabeth, 1695, 1761 Sep 6, St. George, Notes: Doctor WALKER). Updated monthly. http://24.42.45.104/     Antigua: http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/antigua/   Barbados: http://24.42.45.104/tombstones/barbados/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regards, ~Cheryl~

Hello everyone, I found some more Jordan cousin through another of my family lines.I wonder if anyone knows about these?? I certainly hope we can find a connection. My Grandfather Charles Oscar Jordan was born in 1887 Buffalo-Putnam Co. W.Va. He died in 1979 in Nitro at 93 years. He was married to Josephine Fisher in 1909 in Buffalo. They had two sons: Charles Gideon (Bus) Jordan born about 1910 and my father Garland Clayton Jordan born 1912-1986. He married Jannie Louise Morris in 1934 at Marmet W.Va. He just found another name.It is Mary Rood, Charles Oscar Jordan's aunt born in 1866. Thanks, Earl __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com

This has no genealogy information in it, but thought maybe all of us needed to be reminded that we are AMERICANS. Subject: AN EDITORIAL IN A ROMANIAN NEWSPAPER We rarely get a chance to see another country's editorial about us, the USA. When you think the US isn't thought well of all over the world, read this excerpt from a Romanian Newspaper. ~An Ode to America~ Why are Americans so united? They would not resemble one another even if you painted them all one color! They speak all the languages of the world and form an astonishing mixture of civilizations. Some of them are nearly extinct, others are incompatible with one another, and in matters of religious beliefs, not even God can count how many there are. Still, the American tragedy turned three hundred million people into a hand put on the heart. Nobody rushed to accuse the White House, the army, and the secret services that they are only a bunch of losers. Nobody rushed to empty their bank accounts. Nobody rushed out onto the streets nearby to gape about. The Americans volunteered to donate blood and to give a helping hand. After the first moments of panic, they raised their flag over the smoking ruins, putting on T-shirts, caps and ties in the colors of the national flag. They placed flags on buildings and cars as if in every place and on every car a government official or the president was passing. On every occasion they started singing their traditional song: "God Bless America!" Silent as a rock, I watched the charity concert broadcast on Saturday once, twice, three times, on different TV channels. There was Clint Eastwood, Willy Nelson, Robert de Niro, Julia Roberts, (Mohammmed Ali) Cassius Clay, Jack Nicholson, Bruce Springsteen, Sylvester Stallone, James Wood, and many others whom no film or producers could ever bring together. The American's spirit of solidarity turned them into a choir. Actually, choir is not the word. What you could hear was the heavy artillery of the American soul. What neither George W. Bush, nor Bill Clinton, nor Colin Powell could say without facing the risk of stumbling over words and sounds, was being heard in a great and unmistakable way through this charity concert. I don't know how it happened that all this obsessive singing of America didn't sound croaky, nationalist, or ostentatious! It made you green with envy because you weren't able to sing for your country without running the risk of being considered chauvinist, ridiculous, or suspected of who-knows-what ulterior motive. I watched the live broadcast and rerun after rerun for hours listening to the story of the guy who went down one hundred floors with a woman in a wheelchair without knowing who she was, or of the California hockey player, who gave his life fighting with the terrorists and prevented the plane from hitting a target that could have killed other hundreds or thousands of people. How on earth were they able to respond united as one human being? Imperceptibly, with every word and musical note, the memory of some turned into a modern myth of tragic heroes. And with every phone call, millions and millions of dollars were put in a collection aimed at rewarding not a man or a family, but a spirit, which no money can buy. What on earth can unite the Americans in such a way? Their land? Their galloping history? Their economic power? Money? I tried for hours to find an answer, humming songs and murmuring phrases with the risk of sounding commonplace. I thought things over, but I reached only one conclusion. Only freedom can work such miracles!

Several of you have asked how the DNA project can help families get beyond their brick walls in genealogy research. I have gone through several DNA books without finding a good reference for this information. The books are great for crime or paternity types of research/investigation, but not for genealogy. Fortunately, there are lots of good stuff on the Internet in this area. However, a lot of it is technical -- they throw lots of numbers at you. With the help of Norman Jordan and Bob Jordan, I am pulling together text, diagrams and links that can help you understand the use of DNA for breaking the brick walls. The page that provides this start is at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/JordanDNAProjecMRCA.html Stay tuned to this page. We will add more good references as we find them. If you find something that helps explain all of the numbers in layman's language, please pass that on to me. Larry Jordan Charlotte, NC Visit my genealogy sites at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/index.html http://www.homestead.com/lumbee/ http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/r/Larry-E-Jordan/

On 2002 September 13 8:17 PM MDT, Dennis Broberg <[email protected]> wrote: > The 1900 US Census for Lawrence County, Washington Twp.PA > shows---widower, John Jordan, born 1830 PA Farmer > > How would I find the name of his deceased wife and the children > they had? Look at the 1850 census. S R C A cott obert ranston nderson [email protected]

Are there any male Jordans on this list who descend from either James Ladston (Ladson) Jordan, Ely Mack Jordan, or Owen M. Jordan? this is my line (I descend from Owen), but we need a male Jordan in this line to do the DNA test. If you're out there, please contact me -- let's make a deal! Faye McBurney

Several of you have asked questions about the DNA test. I am providing some answers to your questions below. The DNA testing is as easy as brushing your teeth -- no blood, no doctors, no visits to collection specialists. Your genetic test kit consists of a cheek scraper and a collection tube. You will be able to read the instructions and perform a painless cheek scraping in about five minutes. The effect of using the scraper is about the same as brushing your cheek with a soft bristle toothbrush. You don't go anywhere. They mail the kit to you and you mail it back to them. The kit is a padded envelop that contains two swabs that look like a tooth brush. You brush the inside of your cheek with one, then do the same with the other at least eight hours later. The swabs have nice handles that allow you to push the soft ends off into small vials of soapy water. The vials have caps that keep the swab tips wet and sealed while they travel to Houston in the envelope. You will spend far more money and time doing a single piece of research that results in far less discovery than you will get from this DNA test. Worried about what else the DNA test lab might find? The answer is not a thing. They won't know if you show positive for a disease, condition or anything else. The test looks only at the Y Chromosome and then only at 12 or 25 specific Loci on the Y Chromosome. For more information, hit the buttons on the following page: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html Larry Jordan Charlotte, NC Visit my genealogy sites at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/index.html http://www.homestead.com/lumbee/ http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/r/Larry-E-Jordan/

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Bob and Norman have asked me to be an additional administrator for the Jordan Surname DNA Project and to maintain the website for the project. I have agreed to do so. You will now find a complete set of webpages that support the project as links from the following page: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/DNAindex.html You can copy and paste the above address into the Address space for your brewers, then press enter to go to the site. After going to the page, you should elect to add the page to your list of favorite pages using the procedure for your browser. With Microsoft's Internet Explorer, you select Favorites at the top of the screen, then select Add to favorites.. and finally select a folder in which to put the new web page address. The name that will appear in the folder will be: Jordan Surname DNA Project I will continue to add new results and analysis to the site as we get results. I send an individual note to each project participant to get permission before I include their results on the page. Larry Jordan Charlotte, NC Visit my genealogy sites at: http://jordannctoal.homestead.com/index.html http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/r/Larry-E-Jordan/ http://www.homestead.com/lumbee/

Donna, I checked the 1880 census and here is what I found. The first two were next door to each other. I went ahead and got you all of them in the Twp, and a few in the county. Carleen Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania 1880 Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 324A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry JORDAN Self M M W 60 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Isibell JORDAN Wife F M W 50 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Maggie JORDAN Dau F S W 22 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 324A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John JORDAN Self M M W 50 PA ***** Yours?? Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Margaret JORDAN Wife F M W 40 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Margaret YONG Niece F S W 20 PA Occ: Dress Maker Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 323C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Soloman BRENAMAN Self M M W 63 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Elizabeth BRENAMAN Wife F M W 63 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Henry JORDAN FatherL M W W 93 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Alen WILLISON Other M S W 14 PA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Smith LEONIE Other M S W 17 PA Occ: Servant Fa: OH Mo: OH Henry RICHAL Other M S W 20 PA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 324B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Michal JORDAN Self M M W 77 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Sarah JORDAN Wife F M W 69 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA William JORDAN Son M S W 22 PA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Ella JORDAN Other F S W 26 PA Occ: Servant Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 326A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Alex JORDAN Self M M W 64 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Julie A. JORDAN Wife F M W 65 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Sarah A. JORDAN Dau F S W 30 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA Nancy J. JORDAN Dau F S W 25 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA John A. JORDAN Other M S W 22 PA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA S. MCCRACKEN Other M S W 11 PA Occ: Servant Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 324B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry D. JORDAN Self M M W 54 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Margaret JORDAN Wife F M W 44 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Lillie J. JORDAN Dau F S W 18 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA Libie C. JORDAN Dau F S W 16 PA Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA Charley G. JORDAN Son M S W 14 PA Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA Steward JORDAN Son M S W 5 PA Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 320B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace George JORDAN Self M M W 53 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Elizabeth JORDAN Wife F M W 50 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Prudence JORDAN Dau F S W 25 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA Sarah JORDAN Dau F S W 19 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA James JORDAN Son M S W 16 PA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA George JORDAN Son M S W 14 PA Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA Joseph JORDAN Son M S W 12 PA Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA Mary DUNIVAN SisterL F S W 51 PA Occ: Servant Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 321D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Kinsey JORDAN Self M M W 45 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Elizabeth JORDAN Wife F M W 38 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Mary E. JORDAN Dau F S W 20 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA James JORDAN Son M S W 19 PA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Margret JORDAN Dau F S W 16 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA William JORDAN Son M S W 15 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA Prudence JORDAN Dau F S W 10 PA Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA George JORDAN Son M S W 6 PA Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 324A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Michal C. JORDAN Self M S W 40 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Catherine STEWARD Sister F W W 61 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Mattie STEWARD Niece F S W 30 PA Occ: House Keeper Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Washington, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255145 National Archives Film T9-1145 Page 323C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry JORDAN Self M M W 28 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: --- Mo: --- Mary M. JORDAN Wife F M W 26 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: --- Mo: --- Merritt JORDAN Son M S W 3 PA Fa: PA Mo: --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------- Census Place: Hickory, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255144 National Archives Film T9-1144 Page 36D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Wm. JORDAN Self M M W 27 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Olive W. JORDAN Wife F M W 28 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA George DUNIVIAN Other M S W 58 PA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Scott, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255144 National Archives Film T9-1144 Page 243A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace J. G. JORDAN Self M M W 45 PA Occ: Dry Goods Merchant Fa: PA Mo: PA M. J. JORDAN Wife F M W 35 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA G. H. S. JORDAN Son M S W 10 PA Occ: At Home Fa: PA Mo: PA A. R. JORDAN Dau F S W 8 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA R. J. B. JORDAN Son M S W 4 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Minnie JORDAN Dau F S W 6M PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255144 National Archives Film T9-1144 Page 157A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Israel JORDAN Self M M W 61 PA Occ: Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Catharine JORDAN Wife F M W 47 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA John JORDAN Son M S W 22 PA Occ: Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Eli JORDAN Son M S W 17 PA Occ: Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA George JORDAN Son M S W 9 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA David JORDAN Son M S W 7 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA

The 1900 US Census for Lawrence County, Washington Twp.PA shows---widower, John Jordan, born 1830 PA Farmer How would I find the name of his deceased wife and the children they had? Your advice will be appreciated. Thank you. Donna Broberg E-Mail: [email protected]

Looking for parents of my Gr-grandfather, Johnathan Phillip Jordan, b. July 26, 1862 ,md. 1885, Mary E. Poor, b. Nov. 24, 1868. According to the 1920 Federal census, he was living in Talihina, Leflore, Oklahoma. This data shows he was born in Missouri, and his father born in North Carolina, with his mother born in Missouri. Thanks for any help, Warren C. Henderson Quartermaster, Clan Henderson CW2 U.S. Army (Ret.) Outgoing Message scanned by Norton Antivirus 2002.

I am attempting to find out the last name and family history of the wife of Thomas Jordan (died August 1809, in Culpeper, Virginia). Thomas was my 4th great-grandfather. I believe that her first name was Mary and I believe that Mary is buried at the Jordan home in Flint Hill, Rappahannock County, VA. I am related to Thomas and Mary through their son Absalom Jordan, born in 1780. I would also like to know where said home is in Flint Hill. We were there in August but could not find it. I would appreciate any help you could offer. Many thanks. Bartow Ned Jones

hi im gary jordan. i hit a brick wall with my ancestor george jordan sr, born bedford co ,about 1784. george sr / was my ggg/gf. george jr . born bedford,fo. 1825. gg/gf george winfield jordan, born boone co va. g/gf ira c.jordan born 1883 boone co wva. grandfather. barron johnson jordan ,born kanawha co wva.1918. this is my line as i know it. i joined the DNA study recently, and the results show i do not have any connection , to the jordans from maine, also it clears up any connection too the authur jordan group, from va. the 12 marker test did show i was related to the jordans from n.c. alabama jordans. so this has been a great help as it focuses my research in another direction. today i upgraded my test to the 25marker test. this will enable a more thorough investigation. thanks to all . gary.