When looking for ancestors, we must start with information that is sure. We can almost do ourselves in by running from one speculation to another. What needs to be done first is to gather all records possible in your "sure" area. That means deed records, court records, tax records (if any), church records, etc. Sometimes deed records can help if they specify where the parties live. I proved my line of Jordans by finding a 1780 deed which was adjacent to my Jordan's land, which stated one of the boundaries as " the heirs of ----." The local LDS will rent you microfilm of these areas and their records. You know your ancestor was in Rockingham NC? According to that census record, he was married about 1805 -- 2 children under age 10, and born 26-30 years before 1810. Start with deed and tax records. Hope this will help. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheri Kelly To: JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:47 AM Subject: Jordan Lines In VA c 1871 to NC to TN by 1830 List: I have been reading many of the posts made recently on the Octavia Perry Jordan and have emailed a couple of posters privately regarding some hoped for connections to my Jordan lines. I have Jordans in both paternal and maternal lines, at least two different states, and as I find individuals who are connected, there does appear to be a one generation difference. I am now looking for a Jordan family in Virginia who would have had a family by 1781. Some of this family was in the 1810 Rockingham Co., NC census. Since I am not sure which lines my Jordan 3rd ggm actually descended from, my research has waffled from family to family and the lack of an 1820 census for Tennessee has kept me from having more specific data to share. Here are the few bits of info I have, in no way proven, only speculation, and this has been picked up from other information I have found on the internet: First of all I am looking for a Woodford Jordan born c1781 VA, based on census records. In 1810 this Woodford was married and in Rockingham Co., NC and his family was 20010-0010000. There is no 1820 census I have found for Woodford. This same Woodford in 1830 Knox Co., TN he lives next to an Ewell Jordan. In 1840, Woodford now lives in Hawkins Co., TN next to Ewel, and Enoch, and a couple of doors away is Thomas Jurdin (born c 1780-1790). Ewel was born c 1807 NC and Enoch was born c 1815 NC. (This is the same Ewel next to Woodford in the 1830 Knox Co., TN census.) I have found a Thomas Jordan born c 1808 in NC who married an Abigail Payne. One of this Thomas's sons is named Ewel and another named H. Woodson. There was a William Jordan born c 1755 who died after 2/15/1817 in Breckinridge Co., KY, who was married to an Elizabeth Woodson, and their son was Woodson Jordan. Woodson and Woodford are close in names but I have viewed census records of each and the spelling is very different so my conclusion is they are probably not related. In Alabama I have found two Enoch Jordans, father and son. The son Enoch born c 1832 in NC married Elizabeth Batson and one of his daughters is named Arena born 1855, in Alabama. The Ewel (b c 1807-d after 1880) next to Woodford in Tennessee named his daughter Aurena born 1840, in Tennessee. Both Ewel and Enoch (the Tennessee Jordans) named sons Thomas and James, and there was also a James Jordan born c 1798 in NC who did live in Hawkins Co., TN in 1850 (census records). Folks, I realize this post is scattered but it has the basics of what I know. If anyone runs across any hints, clues, ideas, or information which they believe will further me in my reading and research, please let me know. Also, I have done extensive work on the east Tennessee Coffee/Coffey lines and have information to share should someone need help. Thanks, Sheri Kelly bluemoonrotts@yahoo.com - ------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ______________________________

My JORDANS are also from Bedford County area of Virginia, however, my father always told me that his dad pronounced if Jor-dan (just as it looks, and grandpa grew up in Iowa). When we moved here to Virginia, my father in law said it was also pronounced Jerdin. Interesting huh!!! Debbie Jordan Maddox ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monya Havekost" <MonyaH@conterra.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > Doesn't anyone remember Hamilton Jordan (pronounced Jerdin) who played > a prominent role in the Jimmy Carter administration? At the time, it > was my understanding that this was an old Virginia pronunciation. It > had nothing to do with yankee or Southern plumbing. > > My direct line is an early ANDERSON/JORDAN connection to the James > River area of VA. In a book published in 1909, the name is written > Jourdan, probably because of pronunciation. > > Monya > Southern, with plumbing :) > > Fayette Co. AL list manager > ASTON surname list manager > MUSGROVE surname list manager > THOMPSON surname list manager > Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, > FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDONALD, > MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, SOUTH, THOMPSON and WEBSTER > On Jun 17, 2004, at 4:57 PM, Alice Weil wrote: > > > In Horry County, South Carolina, We are Jordans and about as Southern > > as you > > can get. Some people in our state pronounce it Jerden but I am not > > sure if > > any Jordans pronounce it that way. It seems to be personal preference. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> > > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > > > > > >> I think you are probably correct > >> > >> Collene > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Norman Jordan" <njordan1@maine.rr.com> > >> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:22 AM > >> Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > >> > >> > >>> I personally think the Jordan - Jerdon is a North - South thing. ( I > > have > >> no > >>> proof, just think). > >>> > >>> BUT, couple years ago a lady sent e-mail that she asked her old > >> grandfather > >>> about the difference between Jordan's and Jerdon's and he told her > >>> that > >> "the > >>> Jordan's have indoor pluming". > >>> > >>> Norman from up North > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: <Fmcburney@aol.com> > >>> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:09 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > >>> > >>> > >>>> My North Florida and Southern Alabama Jordans would have a duck fit > >>>> if > > I > >>> slipped and said JOR-DAN! We are definitely JER-DANS. (just for the > >> record, > >>> folks) > >>>> > >>>> Faye > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > >>>> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > >>>> some JORDAN resources - > >>>> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > >>>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > >>> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > >>> some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > >>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > >> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > >> some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > >> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm >

It is certainly very interesting. Collene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Maddox" <w-d.maddox@worldnet.att.net> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > My JORDANS are also from Bedford County area of Virginia, however, my father > always told me that his dad pronounced if Jor-dan (just as it looks, and > grandpa grew up in Iowa). When we moved here to Virginia, my father in law > said it was also pronounced Jerdin. > Interesting huh!!! > > Debbie Jordan Maddox > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Monya Havekost" <MonyaH@conterra.com> > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:57 PM > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > > > > Doesn't anyone remember Hamilton Jordan (pronounced Jerdin) who played > > a prominent role in the Jimmy Carter administration? At the time, it > > was my understanding that this was an old Virginia pronunciation. It > > had nothing to do with yankee or Southern plumbing. > > > > My direct line is an early ANDERSON/JORDAN connection to the James > > River area of VA. In a book published in 1909, the name is written > > Jourdan, probably because of pronunciation. > > > > Monya > > Southern, with plumbing :) > > > > Fayette Co. AL list manager > > ASTON surname list manager > > MUSGROVE surname list manager > > THOMPSON surname list manager > > Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, > > FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDONALD, > > MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, SOUTH, THOMPSON and WEBSTER > > On Jun 17, 2004, at 4:57 PM, Alice Weil wrote: > > > > > In Horry County, South Carolina, We are Jordans and about as Southern > > > as you > > > can get. Some people in our state pronounce it Jerden but I am not > > > sure if > > > any Jordans pronounce it that way. It seems to be personal preference. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> > > > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > > > > > > > > >> I think you are probably correct > > >> > > >> Collene > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Norman Jordan" <njordan1@maine.rr.com> > > >> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:22 AM > > >> Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > > >> > > >> > > >>> I personally think the Jordan - Jerdon is a North - South thing. ( I > > > have > > >> no > > >>> proof, just think). > > >>> > > >>> BUT, couple years ago a lady sent e-mail that she asked her old > > >> grandfather > > >>> about the difference between Jordan's and Jerdon's and he told her > > >>> that > > >> "the > > >>> Jordan's have indoor pluming". > > >>> > > >>> Norman from up North > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: <Fmcburney@aol.com> > > >>> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:09 PM > > >>> Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> My North Florida and Southern Alabama Jordans would have a duck fit > > >>>> if > > > I > > >>> slipped and said JOR-DAN! We are definitely JER-DANS. (just for the > > >> record, > > >>> folks) > > >>>> > > >>>> Faye > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > >>>> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > >>>> some JORDAN resources - > > >>>> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > >>>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > >>> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > >>> some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > >>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > >> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > >> some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > >> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

Can you please tell me where Melcome is in Devon. I have heard of Lynton and Lynmouth but not Lynn. Ann ( who grew up in Devon) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry Samuel Jordan born in 1578 in Lynn or Melcome, Devon England and died April 1623 in Jordan's Journey, James Towne, Charles City, VA. His first wife, whom he married in England probably died before he left England to come to America. She was dead by 1618 as Samuel was considered a special catch for any eligible woman at that time. He was a member of the first House of Burgesses, the first legislative body in the Western world. a representive of James City, convened in James City, July 30, 1619 by Sir George Yardley, Knight, governoe and Captaine General of Virginia. He received a land grand of 450 acres which was conveyed to him by Gov. Yardley, December 10, 1620. In 1618, Samuel married Cicely, a widow with a young daughter, Temperance Bailey. Cicely was born in Eng. in 1600 and came to America aboard the Swan in 1610. Also, she was a cousin to Cicely through William Phippen and Joan Jordaine. Samuel Jordan and Cicely received land grants for being "Ancient Planters". On one of the land grants on the south side of the James River, Samuel built a very large plantation called "Jordan's Journey" Samuel died in March 1623 at his home called "Beggers Bush" . A son born in England by his first wife, named Robert Jordan was killed in an Indian Massacre in 1620: Children of Samue Jordan and Frances are: 1. Robert Jordan b Dorsetshire, England, d. Mar 22, 1621/22 in an Indian massacre. 2. Ann Marie Jordan, b. 1596 in England; died 1644 in Isle of Wight County, Va. 3. Thomas Jordan b. 1600 in England; d. bef Aug 10, 1644, Isle of Wight County, Va. Children of Samuel Jordan and Cicely Pippen Baily Jordan 4. Mary Jordan b 1621 "Jordan's Jorney", Charles City, Va. d aft 1677; mar George Washington Richardson 5. Margaret Jordan, b abt 1623 at "Jordan's Journey", Charles City, Va. d in 1688 in Virginia mar. James Davis b abt 1643 in Englan Thomas Jordan, son of Samuel Jordan and Frances born in England in 1600 & d bef Aug 10, 1644 in Isle of Wight County, Va. He married Lucy Corker bef 1626 in Isle of Wight, Virginia, dau. of Wm Corker & Susannah Moseley. She was b in Jamestown, City County, VA and d in 1700 in New Garden, PA. Thomas Jordan served in the House of Burgesses in Isle of Wight 1629 & 1632. He was the first to reside in Isle of Wigt, Va. Per census of 1624/25 he was 24 years old and came over from England on the "Diana". He was stationed at Pasbyhayes and was "one Gov. Yardley's men". He received a land grant of 900 acres of land in Isle of Wight. He was also a commissioner (Magistrate) in 1627. Sources: Immigrated from England FGS SLC Archives. Isle of Wight Census 1624/25 Jos. B. Dunn's History of Nansemond Co., VA. http:worldconnect-rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm/cgi?op=GET&db-dtjohnson&id-1=I 2168 Source: http://members.aol.com/OtherGen/Jordan/htm Chapter: The Quakers page 116-117. "The leading family in Isle of Wight and Nasemond were the Jordans. Their vicissitudes of fortune are more frequently mentioned in the Quacker records than those of the family, and their history is more illustrative of the Quaker life of that day. Children of Thomas Jordan and Lucy Corker: i. Matthew Jordan b 1631 VA ii Joseph Jordan b 1633 iii Thomas Fleming II Jordan, b July 7, 1635, Isle of Wight, Va and died 1703 in New Kent County, VA. iv. Richard Jordan, b 1637 Isle of Wight, VA. d May 3, 1687 , Surry Co., VA. v. Margaret Jordan, b 1650 VA d. 1694 The line comes on down from Thomas Fleming II Jordan and Richard. Thomas(3) Fleming II Jordan m Margaret Brashear/Brasseur march 23, 1658/59 in Nansemond Co, Va. Their family were Quakers. All of their children were born in Nansemond Co., VA Quaker Records from Chuckatuck MM, VA. History of Nansemond Co., VA by Jos. B. Dunn p 117. Archive record from SLC Archives. Allied families (second Ed.) Media, Inc. 1978 p 402. Children of Thomas Fleming Jordan and Margaret Brasseur are: All born in Nansemond Co., Va. 1. Christian Jordan, 2. Thomas III Jordan b. 3/06/1659 d 7/13/1759 Parish of Newport Isle, Isle of Wight Co., Va. 3. John Jordan b 7/17/1683 d bef May 6, 1712 Parish of Newport, Isle of Wight Co., Va. 4. James Jordan b 11/23/1665 d 10/13/1732 Isle of Wight Co., Va. 5. Robert Jordan b. 7/11/1668 d 10/03/1728 Isle of Wight, Va. 6. Richard Jordan b 6/6/1670 d 10/29/1739, Parish of Newport, Isle of Wight Co., VA. 7. Joseph Jordan, b. 7/8/1672 d 11/25/1725 Pasquatank, County, NC. 8. Benjamin Sr. Jordan, b 11/1/1676 d 12/12/1716 Isle of Wight Co., Va. 9. Matthew Jordan, b. 11/01/1676 d 9/2/1748, Isle of Wight Co., Va. 10. Samuel Col. Sr. Jordan b 5/15/1679 d bef 6/11/1719 New Kent Co., Fa. 11. Joshua Jordan, b 8/31/1681; d 2/17/1716/1717 Nansemond Co., Va. That is all for Now. A very good site for this Jordan Family can be found at Silly Whalley's Website. http://members.aol.com/OtherGen/Jordan.htm Also, I used Alaine's material at ancestry.com http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm-cgi?op=GET&db=equilla&id=104395 Also, I have a subscription to Ancestry.com and get the immigation records and Quaker records. Hope this information helps those who are researching the family of Samuel Jordan. Submitted by Collene Mount 6/17/2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "harry g dashiell" <aged@visi.net> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > I have been researching, along with my Mother, trying to connect Sam Jordan of > Jordans Journey to Thomas and Margaret of Chuckatuck or to Thomas who came to > to Isle of Wight Co., VA about 1630 since 1935 with no luck. Anybody that can > prove this connection would be doing all Jordan researches a great service. > > > > > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:55:47 -0500 > "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> wrote: > > Mr. Carnivale, I am 74 years old and have been doing > > research since 1982 before computers in web pages. I > > have only been working on the Jordan line since 1992 > > before my Father died in 1994. I have proved my records all the way to 1774 > > and am working on proving them back to 1681 to NC. I still have a lot of > > work to do, and I may find that Octavia Jordan Perry is incorrect, > > but, it is my time and energy that willbe spent. > > > > Thanks again for writing and my name is spelled Collene > > > > Collene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <CCarnivale@aol.com> > > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > > > > > > You will have to do an awful lot of checking to see if her sources are > > > correct. I know you must be new to Jordan research, Colleen, but there are > > people on > > > this list who antedate, or were contemporaries of Octavia Perry. She did a > > > good job, but no one of us is correct abt everything. She also wrote her > > book > > > over 30 years ago. Think of the records, and access to records, that are > > > available to us that were not to her. > > > > > > Everyone wants to get the data correct, but 30+ years of looking has not > > > brought me any closer to who Samuel Jordan was, or where came from. He was > > > interesting because he was at Jamestown, and had a named Plantation there. > > He was > > > also m to quite an interesting lady too. I sure would like to connect to > > him, and > > > bring some spice to my linage! But so far we can't do that with Samuel. We > > > know he had 2 [or 3?] daughters, that is IT PERIOD. I believed absolutely > > > everything you do when I started and I have a written "History" to prove > > it. I wrote > > > that little thing, but I have lived and learned since. > > > I hope we can find something new. Maybe it will be you that does it. > > > Carleen > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm

I have a Benjamin Jordan (b. abt 1771) who was in Saratoga Co., NY in 1798, in Hadley in 1810, Corinth in 1820, and in Moriah (Essex Co.) in 1830, 1840, and 1850. He married Mary Clothier (b. abt 1768) who was from CT. They had 3 children: Siana/Lucinia b. 1799; William b. abt 1804; and Lycenus b. abt 1813. I think he had a brother Eleazer. Wish we could connect. Colleen Mesa, AZ

List Lovett JORDAN was b. Feb 9, 1803 Orange dist? SC; m. Margaret WILLIAMSON [1816 SC - 1895 MS]. Children: Martha A.[1831], Charles C. [1832], John T. [1832 twin], Harriett C. [1835], David A. [1837], Margaret Ruzena [1845], Lovett F. [1849], Susan Emily [1851], Cornelia Elizabeth [1853], Julia Ann [1855], Queen Victoria [1857], Thomas [1859?], Joseph Keith 1860]. Queen Victoria m. Joseph Samuel Hollingsworth on Dec. 2, 1875 Newton Co. MS. Lovett is sometimes spelled Lovit, Lovet, Lavet or Levit. Jordan is sometimes Jerdan or Jordon. This family is in 1830, 1840 and 1850 SC Orangeburg SC census. SC 14th Reg. Co. H. lists Wm Jordan 3rd Lt., Fuller Jordan 4th Sgt. and enlisted men include Andrew, James, Lovett [F.?] and Luther Jordans. Lovett d. Nov 20 1875 and is buried in the New Hope Baptist Church Cem. in Newton Co. MS. Do any of this family tie into your lines? J R Hollingsworth in Houston America1@hal-pc.org --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004

Does anyone have ANY Jordans residing in NYS about 1764 through 1800? Would like email from you. Ruth Jordan Thoden RThoden@aol.com

Dear Collene and all, It's so good to see such enthusiasm out there!!! You HAVE indeed confused two different Thomas Jordans as most of us have done at some point in our research. The Quaker records are a fabulous tool for our genealogy but must be used with extreme caution. It's so easy to assume two notations within the same time period or even within the same Monthl Meeting are about the same person....but often they aren't. You'll find many unrelated families having members with the exact same names running through the generations. Three John Does with sons Thomas, Mathew, and Richard might all live in Chuckatuck. There can also be families with those same names who do not even appear in the records..or ANY records. Honest people have made the same mistake through the generations. It's made worse when someone with good intentions and not understanding their error puts it in a book or, as we have these days, on a mailing list. Anything we find or receive from other than an ORIGINAL source from THAT time period is not a proven fact. Just because that wonderful Joe Smith in Harborview (or our grandmother!) shared THEIR files with me and they says they had a good source doesn't make it so. Sometimes errors are well meaning. Other times (as in a case in my husband's muddled lineage) a person or persons WANT something to be a certain way so badly they either ignore all evidence or in extreme cases like that of my husband's line they created false documents. In this case the false documents are PROVEN false but there are still many people who haven't heard about it or who simply refuse to accept that a large part of their work is based on lies. We owe it to our ancestors, our descendants, and to ourselves to get it right. Please be very careful what you accept as fact, what you share with others as fact...and never "assume". Now of Thomas and Margarett had only carved what THEY really knew about their families on a nice hard rock somewhere........! Your partner is the search, Dianne Larson Ward Aberdeen, WA. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > From: > "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> > Date: > Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:54:30 -0500 > To: > JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >No, this information is from Jack A Jordan from Oregan. >originally from Texas. He did some real checking on this >matter. Also, I have their records from the Quaker Records of Virginia >----- Original Message ----- >From: "harry g dashiell" <aged@visi.net> >To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:52 PM >Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > > > >>Collene: >>I think you have mixed 2 Thomas Jordans. Lucy married a Thomas Jordan of >> >> >Surry > > >

Have you checked Pike County, And Crenshaw Co., Alabama. Henry Jordan mar Catherine Thomas. in 1819 both were born in SC. There are lots of Thomases in our area. Collene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol C-H" <cch@netdoor.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: [JORDAN] Tracking Thomas > As time permits, I am going to get back to work on the Tracking Thomas site > - if any of you have AL census data or such extracted for the east central > AL counties listed at that site that you would like included, will be happy > to add it 0 just send it to my <cch@netdoor.com> addy with the subject line > "Put On TT website" - and if you do send data, be sure to include a bio of > any Jordan brick wall in those counties. > > For those of you not already familiar with the site - it links off the > middle tagline at the bottom of posts from this list -some JORDAN > resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> > <carolch@bellsouth.net> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

Yes, it keeps me busy trying to keep them deleted. Collene ----- Original Message ----- From: <CarBurCo@aol.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: [JORDAN] Re: JORDAN Cajun, French, Scottish? > Carleen, > > VERRRY FUNNY <G> . I guess the Cajun pronuciation would be pretty much the > same as the French...in which case I believe the J has a softer sound and the > second syllable would be accented and pronounced "DAN" sound that I cannot > reproduce in print but the N doesn't sound like an N but a nasal twang. As in the > name of the actor Louis Jourdan, non? Much fun anyhow Carleen. Certainly > keeps the emails coming, doesn't it > > Carole > > > > > In a message dated 6/17/04 5:05:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > JORDAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > I will repeat what a Jordan friend told me her daddy said abt it. > > He said "If w-o-r-d is word, than J-o-r-d is Jurd." > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

Is there a list manager on this list? Please reply privately. Thanks!! >> >> >>

Carleen, VERRRY FUNNY <G> . I guess the Cajun pronuciation would be pretty much the same as the French...in which case I believe the J has a softer sound and the second syllable would be accented and pronounced "DAN" sound that I cannot reproduce in print but the N doesn't sound like an N but a nasal twang. As in the name of the actor Louis Jourdan, non? Much fun anyhow Carleen. Certainly keeps the emails coming, doesn't it Carole In a message dated 6/17/04 5:05:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JORDAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I will repeat what a Jordan friend told me her daddy said abt it. > He said "If w-o-r-d is word, than J-o-r-d is Jurd." > >

I will post this request again, and see if anyone out there can connect. I am searching for the family-parents of one Elizabeth Jordan born 18/19 May 1770 in Virginia. She married @ 1790-93 to one James Larue of VA born 1758. They had their first seven children in VA before moving into Belmont/Guernsey County, OH @ 1805. One of these children may have been born in MD, per a census record. Elizabeth and James named their children in this order: Sarah, Charity, William, Permelia, John, Margaret, James, Laban, David and Eliza Ellen. The 1820 census refers to another male son, that may have been born to them 1810-1820, name unknown. James Larue was born 1758, so at his marriage to Elizabeth, he would have been 32-35 years old. Could this have been his second marriage? Possibly. Elizabeth would have been 20-23 years old at marriage to James Larue. Could she have been married previously? Again possibly. Has anyone out there discovered anything new in regards to this couple? Denise

As time permits, I am going to get back to work on the Tracking Thomas site - if any of you have AL census data or such extracted for the east central AL counties listed at that site that you would like included, will be happy to add it 0 just send it to my <cch@netdoor.com> addy with the subject line "Put On TT website" - and if you do send data, be sure to include a bio of any Jordan brick wall in those counties. For those of you not already familiar with the site - it links off the middle tagline at the bottom of posts from this list -some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> <carolch@bellsouth.net> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/

Thanks Sheri, for sharing your information on your Jordan line. Some of names sound familiar to me and if I run across it, I will either post it on the Jordan L Roots, or email you. Collene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheri Kelly" <bluemoonrotts@yahoo.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: [JORDAN] Jordan Lines In VA c 1871 to NC to TN by 1830 > > List: > > I have been reading many of the posts made recently on the Octavia Perry Jordan and have emailed a couple of posters privately regarding some hoped for connections to my Jordan lines. I have Jordans in both paternal and maternal lines, at least two different states, and as I find individuals who are connected, there does appear to be a one generation difference. > > I am now looking for a Jordan family in Virginia who would have had a family by 1781. Some of this family was in the 1810 Rockingham Co., NC census. Since I am not sure which lines my Jordan 3rd ggm actually descended from, my research has waffled from family to family and the lack of an 1820 census for Tennessee has kept me from having more specific data to share. > > Here are the few bits of info I have, in no way proven, only speculation, and this has been picked up from other information I have found on the internet: > > First of all I am looking for a Woodford Jordan born c1781 VA, based on census records. In 1810 this Woodford was married and in Rockingham Co., NC and his family was 20010-0010000. There is no 1820 census I have found for Woodford. > > This same Woodford in 1830 Knox Co., TN he lives next to an Ewell Jordan. In 1840, Woodford now lives in Hawkins Co., TN next to Ewel, and Enoch, and a couple of doors away is Thomas Jurdin (born c 1780-1790). Ewel was born c 1807 NC and Enoch was born c 1815 NC. (This is the same Ewel next to Woodford in the 1830 Knox Co., TN census.) > > I have found a Thomas Jordan born c 1808 in NC who married an Abigail Payne. One of this Thomas's sons is named Ewel and another named H. Woodson. There was a William Jordan born c 1755 who died after 2/15/1817 in Breckinridge Co., KY, who was married to an Elizabeth Woodson, and their son was Woodson Jordan. Woodson and Woodford are close in names but I have viewed census records of each and the spelling is very different so my conclusion is they are probably not related. > > In Alabama I have found two Enoch Jordans, father and son. The son Enoch born c 1832 in NC married Elizabeth Batson and one of his daughters is named Arena born 1855, in Alabama. The Ewel (b c 1807-d after 1880) next to Woodford in Tennessee named his daughter Aurena born 1840, in Tennessee. > > Both Ewel and Enoch (the Tennessee Jordans) named sons Thomas and James, and there was also a James Jordan born c 1798 in NC who did live in Hawkins Co., TN in 1850 (census records). > > Folks, I realize this post is scattered but it has the basics of what I know. > > If anyone runs across any hints, clues, ideas, or information which they believe will further me in my reading and research, please let me know. > > Also, I have done extensive work on the east Tennessee Coffee/Coffey lines and have information to share should someone need help. > > Thanks, > > Sheri Kelly bluemoonrotts@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

List: I have been reading many of the posts made recently on the Octavia Perry Jordan and have emailed a couple of posters privately regarding some hoped for connections to my Jordan lines. I have Jordans in both paternal and maternal lines, at least two different states, and as I find individuals who are connected, there does appear to be a one generation difference. I am now looking for a Jordan family in Virginia who would have had a family by 1781. Some of this family was in the 1810 Rockingham Co., NC census. Since I am not sure which lines my Jordan 3rd ggm actually descended from, my research has waffled from family to family and the lack of an 1820 census for Tennessee has kept me from having more specific data to share. Here are the few bits of info I have, in no way proven, only speculation, and this has been picked up from other information I have found on the internet: First of all I am looking for a Woodford Jordan born c1781 VA, based on census records. In 1810 this Woodford was married and in Rockingham Co., NC and his family was 20010-0010000. There is no 1820 census I have found for Woodford. This same Woodford in 1830 Knox Co., TN he lives next to an Ewell Jordan. In 1840, Woodford now lives in Hawkins Co., TN next to Ewel, and Enoch, and a couple of doors away is Thomas Jurdin (born c 1780-1790). Ewel was born c 1807 NC and Enoch was born c 1815 NC. (This is the same Ewel next to Woodford in the 1830 Knox Co., TN census.) I have found a Thomas Jordan born c 1808 in NC who married an Abigail Payne. One of this Thomas's sons is named Ewel and another named H. Woodson. There was a William Jordan born c 1755 who died after 2/15/1817 in Breckinridge Co., KY, who was married to an Elizabeth Woodson, and their son was Woodson Jordan. Woodson and Woodford are close in names but I have viewed census records of each and the spelling is very different so my conclusion is they are probably not related. In Alabama I have found two Enoch Jordans, father and son. The son Enoch born c 1832 in NC married Elizabeth Batson and one of his daughters is named Arena born 1855, in Alabama. The Ewel (b c 1807-d after 1880) next to Woodford in Tennessee named his daughter Aurena born 1840, in Tennessee. Both Ewel and Enoch (the Tennessee Jordans) named sons Thomas and James, and there was also a James Jordan born c 1798 in NC who did live in Hawkins Co., TN in 1850 (census records). Folks, I realize this post is scattered but it has the basics of what I know. If anyone runs across any hints, clues, ideas, or information which they believe will further me in my reading and research, please let me know. Also, I have done extensive work on the east Tennessee Coffee/Coffey lines and have information to share should someone need help. Thanks, Sheri Kelly bluemoonrotts@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

Doesn't anyone remember Hamilton Jordan (pronounced Jerdin) who played a prominent role in the Jimmy Carter administration? At the time, it was my understanding that this was an old Virginia pronunciation. It had nothing to do with yankee or Southern plumbing. My direct line is an early ANDERSON/JORDAN connection to the James River area of VA. In a book published in 1909, the name is written Jourdan, probably because of pronunciation. Monya Southern, with plumbing :) Fayette Co. AL list manager ASTON surname list manager MUSGROVE surname list manager THOMPSON surname list manager Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, SOUTH, THOMPSON and WEBSTER On Jun 17, 2004, at 4:57 PM, Alice Weil wrote: > In Horry County, South Carolina, We are Jordans and about as Southern > as you > can get. Some people in our state pronounce it Jerden but I am not > sure if > any Jordans pronounce it that way. It seems to be personal preference. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > > >> I think you are probably correct >> >> Collene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Norman Jordan" <njordan1@maine.rr.com> >> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation >> >> >>> I personally think the Jordan - Jerdon is a North - South thing. ( I > have >> no >>> proof, just think). >>> >>> BUT, couple years ago a lady sent e-mail that she asked her old >> grandfather >>> about the difference between Jordan's and Jerdon's and he told her >>> that >> "the >>> Jordan's have indoor pluming". >>> >>> Norman from up North >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <Fmcburney@aol.com> >>> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation >>> >>> >>>> My North Florida and Southern Alabama Jordans would have a duck fit >>>> if > I >>> slipped and said JOR-DAN! We are definitely JER-DANS. (just for the >> record, >>> folks) >>>> >>>> Faye >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== >>>> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html >>>> some JORDAN resources - >>>> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ >>>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== >>> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html >>> some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ >>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== >> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html >> some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ >> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm >> >> > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

Yes if Remember Hamilton Jordan and also, Shug Jordan football coach at Auburn University. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monya Havekost" <MonyaH@conterra.com> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > Doesn't anyone remember Hamilton Jordan (pronounced Jerdin) who played > a prominent role in the Jimmy Carter administration? At the time, it > was my understanding that this was an old Virginia pronunciation. It > had nothing to do with yankee or Southern plumbing. > > My direct line is an early ANDERSON/JORDAN connection to the James > River area of VA. In a book published in 1909, the name is written > Jourdan, probably because of pronunciation. > > Monya > Southern, with plumbing :) > > Fayette Co. AL list manager > ASTON surname list manager > MUSGROVE surname list manager > THOMPSON surname list manager > Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, > FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDONALD, > MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, SOUTH, THOMPSON and WEBSTER > On Jun 17, 2004, at 4:57 PM, Alice Weil wrote: > > > In Horry County, South Carolina, We are Jordans and about as Southern > > as you > > can get. Some people in our state pronounce it Jerden but I am not > > sure if > > any Jordans pronounce it that way. It seems to be personal preference. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> > > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > > > > > >> I think you are probably correct > >> > >> Collene > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Norman Jordan" <njordan1@maine.rr.com> > >> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:22 AM > >> Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > >> > >> > >>> I personally think the Jordan - Jerdon is a North - South thing. ( I > > have > >> no > >>> proof, just think). > >>> > >>> BUT, couple years ago a lady sent e-mail that she asked her old > >> grandfather > >>> about the difference between Jordan's and Jerdon's and he told her > >>> that > >> "the > >>> Jordan's have indoor pluming". > >>> > >>> Norman from up North > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: <Fmcburney@aol.com> > >>> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:09 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Re:JORDAN (JUR' DN) pronunciation > >>> > >>> > >>>> My North Florida and Southern Alabama Jordans would have a duck fit > >>>> if > > I > >>> slipped and said JOR-DAN! We are definitely JER-DANS. (just for the > >> record, > >>> folks) > >>>> > >>>> Faye > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > >>>> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > >>>> some JORDAN resources - > >>>> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > >>>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > >>> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > >>> some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > >>> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > >> List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > >> some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > >> Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

No, this information is from Jack A Jordan from Oregan. originally from Texas. He did some real checking on this matter. Also, I have their records from the Quaker Records of Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "harry g dashiell" <aged@visi.net> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > Collene: > I think you have mixed 2 Thomas Jordans. Lucy married a Thomas Jordan of Surry > County, not the Thomas of Isle of Wight-ages are very different. No connection > has been made between the 2 Thomases. The son of Thomas of I of W moved to a > land grant of his father in Nancemond Co.(Chuchatuck) and married Margaret > Brasier, a Quaker. I am also unaware of any proof that either of the Thomases > was a son of Sam. > > > > On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:11:47 -0500 > "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> wrote: > > Samuel Jordan born in 1578 in Lynn or Melcome, Devon > > England and died April 1623 in Jordan's Journey, James > > Towne, Charles City, VA. > > > > His first wife, whom he married in England probably died before he left > > England to come to America. She was dead by 1618 as Samuel was considered > > a special catch > > for any eligible woman at that time. > > > > He was a member of the first House of Burgesses, the first legislative body > > in the Western world. a representive > > of James City, convened in James City, July 30, 1619 by > > Sir George Yardley, Knight, governoe and Captaine General of Virginia. > > > > He received a land grand of 450 acres which was conveyed to him by Gov. > > Yardley, December 10, 1620. > > > > In 1618, Samuel married Cicely, a widow with a young > > daughter, Temperance Bailey. Cicely was born in Eng. > > in 1600 and came to America aboard the Swan in 1610. > > Also, she was a cousin to Cicely through William Phippen and Joan Jordaine. > > > > Samuel Jordan and Cicely received land grants for being > > "Ancient Planters". On one of the land grants on the south side of the > > James River, Samuel built a very large > > plantation called "Jordan's Journey" Samuel died in March 1623 at his home > > called "Beggers Bush" . A son > > born in England by his first wife, named Robert Jordan > > was killed in an Indian Massacre in 1620: > > > > Children of Samue Jordan and Frances are: > > 1. Robert Jordan b Dorsetshire, England, d. Mar 22, 1621/22 in an Indian > > massacre. > > > > 2. Ann Marie Jordan, b. 1596 in England; died 1644 in > > Isle of Wight County, Va. > > > > 3. Thomas Jordan b. 1600 in England; d. bef Aug 10, 1644, Isle of Wight > > County, Va. > > > > Children of Samuel Jordan and Cicely Pippen Baily Jordan > > 4. Mary Jordan b 1621 "Jordan's Jorney", Charles City, Va. d aft 1677; > > mar George Washington Richardson > > 5. Margaret Jordan, b abt 1623 at "Jordan's Journey", > > Charles City, Va. d in 1688 in Virginia mar. James Davis > > b abt 1643 in Englan > > > > Thomas Jordan, son of Samuel Jordan and Frances > > born in England in 1600 & d bef Aug 10, 1644 in Isle of > > Wight County, Va. He married Lucy Corker bef 1626 in > > Isle of Wight, Virginia, dau. of Wm Corker & Susannah > > Moseley. She was b in Jamestown, City County, VA and d in 1700 in New > > Garden, PA. > > > > Thomas Jordan served in the House of Burgesses in Isle > > of Wight 1629 & 1632. He was the first to reside in Isle > > of Wigt, Va. Per census of 1624/25 he was 24 years old > > and came over from England on the "Diana". He was > > stationed at Pasbyhayes and was "one Gov. Yardley's men". He received a > > land grant of 900 acres of land in > > Isle of Wight. He was also a commissioner (Magistrate) > > in 1627. > > > > Sources: Immigrated from England FGS SLC Archives. > > Isle of Wight Census 1624/25 Jos. B. Dunn's History of > > Nansemond Co., VA. > > > > http:worldconnect-rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm/cgi?op=GET&db-dtjohnson&id-1=I > > 2168 > > > > Source: http://members.aol.com/OtherGen/Jordan/htm > > > > Chapter: The Quakers page 116-117. "The leading family in Isle of Wight and > > Nasemond were the Jordans. > > Their vicissitudes of fortune are more frequently mentioned in the Quacker > > records than those of the family, > > and their history is more illustrative of the Quaker life of > > that day. > > > > Children of Thomas Jordan and Lucy Corker: > > i. Matthew Jordan b 1631 VA > > ii Joseph Jordan b 1633 > > iii Thomas Fleming II Jordan, b July 7, 1635, Isle of Wight, Va and died > > 1703 in New Kent County, VA. > > iv. Richard Jordan, b 1637 Isle of Wight, VA. d May 3, 1687 , Surry Co., > > VA. > > v. Margaret Jordan, b 1650 VA d. 1694 > > > > The line comes on down from Thomas Fleming II Jordan > > and Richard. > > > > Thomas(3) Fleming II Jordan m Margaret Brashear/Brasseur march 23, 1658/59 > > in Nansemond Co, Va. Their family were Quakers. All of their > > children were born in Nansemond Co., VA > > > > Quaker Records from Chuckatuck MM, VA. History of > > Nansemond Co., VA by Jos. B. Dunn p 117. Archive > > record from SLC Archives. Allied families (second Ed.) > > Media, Inc. 1978 p 402. > > > > Children of Thomas Fleming Jordan and Margaret > > Brasseur are: All born in Nansemond Co., Va. > > > > 1. Christian Jordan, > > 2. Thomas III Jordan b. 3/06/1659 d 7/13/1759 > > Parish of Newport Isle, Isle of Wight Co., Va. > > 3. John Jordan b 7/17/1683 d bef May 6, 1712 Parish > > of Newport, Isle of Wight Co., Va. > > 4. James Jordan b 11/23/1665 d 10/13/1732 Isle of Wight Co., Va. > > 5. Robert Jordan b. 7/11/1668 d 10/03/1728 Isle of Wight, Va. > > 6. Richard Jordan b 6/6/1670 d 10/29/1739, Parish of > > Newport, Isle of Wight Co., VA. > > 7. Joseph Jordan, b. 7/8/1672 d 11/25/1725 Pasquatank, County, NC. > > 8. Benjamin Sr. Jordan, b 11/1/1676 d 12/12/1716 Isle of Wight Co., Va. > > 9. Matthew Jordan, b. 11/01/1676 d 9/2/1748, Isle of > > Wight Co., Va. > > 10. Samuel Col. Sr. Jordan b 5/15/1679 d bef 6/11/1719 New Kent Co., Fa. > > 11. Joshua Jordan, b 8/31/1681; d 2/17/1716/1717 > > Nansemond Co., Va. > > > > That is all for Now. > > > > A very good site for this Jordan Family can be found at > > Silly Whalley's Website. > > http://members.aol.com/OtherGen/Jordan.htm > > > > Also, I used Alaine's material at ancestry.com > > http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm-cgi?op=GET&db=equilla&id=104395 > > > > Also, I have a subscription to Ancestry.com and get > > the immigation records and Quaker records. > > > > Hope this information helps those who are researching the > > family of Samuel Jordan. > > > > Submitted by Collene Mount 6/17/2004 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "harry g dashiell" <aged@visi.net> > > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > > > > > > > > > I have been researching, along with my Mother, trying to connect Sam > > Jordan of > > > Jordans Journey to Thomas and Margaret of Chuckatuck or to Thomas who came > > to > > > to Isle of Wight Co., VA about 1630 since 1935 with no luck. Anybody that > > can > > > prove this connection would be doing all Jordan researches a great > > service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:55:47 -0500 > > > "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> wrote: > > > > Mr. Carnivale, I am 74 years old and have been doing > > > > research since 1982 before computers in web pages. I > > > > have only been working on the Jordan line since 1992 > > > > before my Father died in 1994. I have proved my records all the way to > > 1774 > > > > and am working on proving them back to 1681 to NC. I still have a lot > > of > > > > work to do, and I may find that Octavia Jordan Perry is incorrect, > > > > but, it is my time and energy that willbe spent. > > > > > > > > Thanks again for writing and my name is spelled Collene > > > > > > > > Collene > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <CCarnivale@aol.com> > > > > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:08 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will have to do an awful lot of checking to see if her sources are > > > > > correct. I know you must be new to Jordan research, Colleen, but there > > are > > > > people on > > > > > this list who antedate, or were contemporaries of Octavia Perry. She > > did a > > > > > good job, but no one of us is correct abt everything. She also wrote > > her > > > > book > > > > > over 30 years ago. Think of the records, and access to records, that > > are > > > > > available to us that were not to her. > > > > > > > > > > Everyone wants to get the data correct, but 30+ years of looking has > > not > > > > > brought me any closer to who Samuel Jordan was, or where came from. He > > was > > > > > interesting because he was at Jamestown, and had a named Plantation > > there. > > > > He was > > > > > also m to quite an interesting lady too. I sure would like to connect > > to > > > > him, and > > > > > bring some spice to my linage! But so far we can't do that with > > Samuel. We > > > > > know he had 2 [or 3?] daughters, that is IT PERIOD. I believed > > absolutely > > > > > everything you do when I started and I have a written "History" to > > prove > > > > it. I wrote > > > > > that little thing, but I have lived and learned since. > > > > > I hope we can find something new. Maybe it will be you that does it. > > > > > Carleen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > > > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > > > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "harry g dashiell" <aged@visi.net> To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > Collene: > I think you have mixed 2 Thomas Jordans. Lucy married a Thomas Jordan of Surry > County, not the Thomas of Isle of Wight-ages are very different. No connection > has been made between the 2 Thomases. The son of Thomas of I of W moved to a > land grant of his father in Nancemond Co.(Chuchatuck) and married Margaret > Brasier, a Quaker. I am also unaware of any proof that either of the Thomases > was a son of Sam. > > > > On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:11:47 -0500 > "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> wrote: > > Samuel Jordan born in 1578 in Lynn or Melcome, Devon > > England and died April 1623 in Jordan's Journey, James > > Towne, Charles City, VA. > > > > His first wife, whom he married in England probably died before he left > > England to come to America. She was dead by 1618 as Samuel was considered > > a special catch > > for any eligible woman at that time. > > > > He was a member of the first House of Burgesses, the first legislative body > > in the Western world. a representive > > of James City, convened in James City, July 30, 1619 by > > Sir George Yardley, Knight, governoe and Captaine General of Virginia. > > > > He received a land grand of 450 acres which was conveyed to him by Gov. > > Yardley, December 10, 1620. > > > > In 1618, Samuel married Cicely, a widow with a young > > daughter, Temperance Bailey. Cicely was born in Eng. > > in 1600 and came to America aboard the Swan in 1610. > > Also, she was a cousin to Cicely through William Phippen and Joan Jordaine. > > > > Samuel Jordan and Cicely received land grants for being > > "Ancient Planters". On one of the land grants on the south side of the > > James River, Samuel built a very large > > plantation called "Jordan's Journey" Samuel died in March 1623 at his home > > called "Beggers Bush" . A son > > born in England by his first wife, named Robert Jordan > > was killed in an Indian Massacre in 1620: > > > > Children of Samue Jordan and Frances are: > > 1. Robert Jordan b Dorsetshire, England, d. Mar 22, 1621/22 in an Indian > > massacre. > > > > 2. Ann Marie Jordan, b. 1596 in England; died 1644 in > > Isle of Wight County, Va. > > > > 3. Thomas Jordan b. 1600 in England; d. bef Aug 10, 1644, Isle of Wight > > County, Va. > > > > Children of Samuel Jordan and Cicely Pippen Baily Jordan > > 4. Mary Jordan b 1621 "Jordan's Jorney", Charles City, Va. d aft 1677; > > mar George Washington Richardson > > 5. Margaret Jordan, b abt 1623 at "Jordan's Journey", > > Charles City, Va. d in 1688 in Virginia mar. James Davis > > b abt 1643 in Englan > > > > Thomas Jordan, son of Samuel Jordan and Frances > > born in England in 1600 & d bef Aug 10, 1644 in Isle of > > Wight County, Va. He married Lucy Corker bef 1626 in > > Isle of Wight, Virginia, dau. of Wm Corker & Susannah > > Moseley. She was b in Jamestown, City County, VA and d in 1700 in New > > Garden, PA. > > > > Thomas Jordan served in the House of Burgesses in Isle > > of Wight 1629 & 1632. He was the first to reside in Isle > > of Wigt, Va. Per census of 1624/25 he was 24 years old > > and came over from England on the "Diana". He was > > stationed at Pasbyhayes and was "one Gov. Yardley's men". He received a > > land grant of 900 acres of land in > > Isle of Wight. He was also a commissioner (Magistrate) > > in 1627. > > > > Sources: Immigrated from England FGS SLC Archives. > > Isle of Wight Census 1624/25 Jos. B. Dunn's History of > > Nansemond Co., VA. > > > > http:worldconnect-rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm/cgi?op=GET&db-dtjohnson&id-1=I > > 2168 > > > > Source: http://members.aol.com/OtherGen/Jordan/htm > > > > Chapter: The Quakers page 116-117. "The leading family in Isle of Wight and > > Nasemond were the Jordans. > > Their vicissitudes of fortune are more frequently mentioned in the Quacker > > records than those of the family, > > and their history is more illustrative of the Quaker life of > > that day. > > > > Children of Thomas Jordan and Lucy Corker: > > i. Matthew Jordan b 1631 VA > > ii Joseph Jordan b 1633 > > iii Thomas Fleming II Jordan, b July 7, 1635, Isle of Wight, Va and died > > 1703 in New Kent County, VA. > > iv. Richard Jordan, b 1637 Isle of Wight, VA. d May 3, 1687 , Surry Co., > > VA. > > v. Margaret Jordan, b 1650 VA d. 1694 > > > > The line comes on down from Thomas Fleming II Jordan > > and Richard. > > > > Thomas(3) Fleming II Jordan m Margaret Brashear/Brasseur march 23, 1658/59 > > in Nansemond Co, Va. Their family were Quakers. All of their > > children were born in Nansemond Co., VA > > > > Quaker Records from Chuckatuck MM, VA. History of > > Nansemond Co., VA by Jos. B. Dunn p 117. Archive > > record from SLC Archives. Allied families (second Ed.) > > Media, Inc. 1978 p 402. > > > > Children of Thomas Fleming Jordan and Margaret > > Brasseur are: All born in Nansemond Co., Va. > > > > 1. Christian Jordan, > > 2. Thomas III Jordan b. 3/06/1659 d 7/13/1759 > > Parish of Newport Isle, Isle of Wight Co., Va. > > 3. John Jordan b 7/17/1683 d bef May 6, 1712 Parish > > of Newport, Isle of Wight Co., Va. > > 4. James Jordan b 11/23/1665 d 10/13/1732 Isle of Wight Co., Va. > > 5. Robert Jordan b. 7/11/1668 d 10/03/1728 Isle of Wight, Va. > > 6. Richard Jordan b 6/6/1670 d 10/29/1739, Parish of > > Newport, Isle of Wight Co., VA. > > 7. Joseph Jordan, b. 7/8/1672 d 11/25/1725 Pasquatank, County, NC. > > 8. Benjamin Sr. Jordan, b 11/1/1676 d 12/12/1716 Isle of Wight Co., Va. > > 9. Matthew Jordan, b. 11/01/1676 d 9/2/1748, Isle of > > Wight Co., Va. > > 10. Samuel Col. Sr. Jordan b 5/15/1679 d bef 6/11/1719 New Kent Co., Fa. > > 11. Joshua Jordan, b 8/31/1681; d 2/17/1716/1717 > > Nansemond Co., Va. > > > > That is all for Now. > > > > A very good site for this Jordan Family can be found at > > Silly Whalley's Website. > > http://members.aol.com/OtherGen/Jordan.htm > > > > Also, I used Alaine's material at ancestry.com > > http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm-cgi?op=GET&db=equilla&id=104395 > > > > Also, I have a subscription to Ancestry.com and get > > the immigation records and Quaker records. > > > > Hope this information helps those who are researching the > > family of Samuel Jordan. > > > > Submitted by Collene Mount 6/17/2004 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "harry g dashiell" <aged@visi.net> > > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > > > > > > > > > I have been researching, along with my Mother, trying to connect Sam > > Jordan of > > > Jordans Journey to Thomas and Margaret of Chuckatuck or to Thomas who came > > to > > > to Isle of Wight Co., VA about 1630 since 1935 with no luck. Anybody that > > can > > > prove this connection would be doing all Jordan researches a great > > service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:55:47 -0500 > > > "Collene Mount" <hcm100130@troycable.net> wrote: > > > > Mr. Carnivale, I am 74 years old and have been doing > > > > research since 1982 before computers in web pages. I > > > > have only been working on the Jordan line since 1992 > > > > before my Father died in 1994. I have proved my records all the way to > > 1774 > > > > and am working on proving them back to 1681 to NC. I still have a lot > > of > > > > work to do, and I may find that Octavia Jordan Perry is incorrect, > > > > but, it is my time and energy that willbe spent. > > > > > > > > Thanks again for writing and my name is spelled Collene > > > > > > > > Collene > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <CCarnivale@aol.com> > > > > To: <JORDAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:08 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [JORDAN] Samuel Jordan --and Octavia Jordan Perry > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will have to do an awful lot of checking to see if her sources are > > > > > correct. I know you must be new to Jordan research, Colleen, but there > > are > > > > people on > > > > > this list who antedate, or were contemporaries of Octavia Perry. She > > did a > > > > > good job, but no one of us is correct abt everything. She also wrote > > her > > > > book > > > > > over 30 years ago. Think of the records, and access to records, that > > are > > > > > available to us that were not to her. > > > > > > > > > > Everyone wants to get the data correct, but 30+ years of looking has > > not > > > > > brought me any closer to who Samuel Jordan was, or where came from. He > > was > > > > > interesting because he was at Jamestown, and had a named Plantation > > there. > > > > He was > > > > > also m to quite an interesting lady too. I sure would like to connect > > to > > > > him, and > > > > > bring some spice to my linage! But so far we can't do that with > > Samuel. We > > > > > know he had 2 [or 3?] daughters, that is IT PERIOD. I believed > > absolutely > > > > > everything you do when I started and I have a written "History" to > > prove > > > > it. I wrote > > > > > that little thing, but I have lived and learned since. > > > > > I hope we can find something new. Maybe it will be you that does it. > > > > > Carleen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > > > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > > > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > > > > > ==== JORDAN Mailing List ==== > List webpage - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jordan.html > some JORDAN resources - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/surnames/jordan/ > Genealogy Links - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/GEN-links.htm > >