Going in Hospital for major surgery, be back in abt. six weeks. Albert

Here is a link to the British College of Arms which explains crests, coats of arms, etc. http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ Kathi Jones-Hudson __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

you wrote: But its decoration that would make the front of a publication > look really attractive. I agree...... Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: <LDEAA@aol.com> To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Jones] JONES Family Crest > In a message dated 2/5/2003 5:53:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, > skjones@triad.rr.com writes: > > > I have been told the "Family Crest", "Coat of Arms" were only of one person, > > not a Family. And in order for someone back then to get a Crest or Coat of > > Arms, they had to apply for it, and it was only owned by that one person. > > It's not really considered part of the Family. > > > > Sherry, > > You are correct in what you say above and in the rest of your posting. > Perhaps the original question was either misstated or asked without full > knowledge of armory. Either way it really doesn't matter. The stated reason > for wanting a Jones family crest was to adorn a book. Technically, the > American author could choose any Jones crest for that job, since English > armory carries no significance in the United States other than fancy > decoration. But its decoration that would make the front of a publication > look really attractive. > > Larry Jones > I'm in the business of beating the odds. > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at jones-admin@rootsweb.com > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this site: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > search the archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > Unusual JONES given names, http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > >

In a message dated 2/5/2003 5:53:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, skjones@triad.rr.com writes: > I have been told the "Family Crest", "Coat of Arms" were only of one person, > not a Family. And in order for someone back then to get a Crest or Coat of > Arms, they had to apply for it, and it was only owned by that one person. > It's not really considered part of the Family. > Sherry, You are correct in what you say above and in the rest of your posting. Perhaps the original question was either misstated or asked without full knowledge of armory. Either way it really doesn't matter. The stated reason for wanting a Jones family crest was to adorn a book. Technically, the American author could choose any Jones crest for that job, since English armory carries no significance in the United States other than fancy decoration. But its decoration that would make the front of a publication look really attractive. Larry Jones I'm in the business of beating the odds.

I have been told the "Family Crest", "Coat of Arms" were only of one person, not a Family. And in order for someone back then to get a Crest or Coat of Arms, they had to apply for it, and it was only owned by that one person. It's not really considered part of the Family. So there would be no Jones Family Crest or whatever the surname. It would only be... "Charles Jones Crest", or "Alfred Jones Coat of Arms". Or whatever the Surname might have been. That if you really want the Crest or Coat of Arms researched, it isn't worth the research unless your doing it for fun. And if your going to pay someone to do the research for you, unless they charge a minimum of $300.00 or more, then the research won't be worth it. I have a few Coat of Arms in my family line and I thought about researching them, So I ask around to other Genealogist that research them and this is what they told me. So I guess you should judge for yourself of weather or not you really want to trace the family and see if there were any "Family Crest", "Coat of Arms" through out your line. Good Luck Hunting. Best Wishes, Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: "EDWIN JONES" <ejones1@indy.net> To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: [Jones] JONES Family Crest follow up > Hello list, > > Last month I posted a message concerning a JONES Coat of Arms or a JONES Family Crest. Thanks to all who replied to my posting. After all the information I received plus doing some research I found many Coats of Arms & Family Crests for the JONES Family. Some countries require these items to be registered to make them valid. I happen to have two JONES lines. So, after my investigating this I have decided to design my own JONES Family Crest. I have not yet been able to trace either of my JONES lines back to the country of origin which was probably Wales for at least one of them. This being the case I have designed my Family Crest with respect to present day time rather that historic times. > > Should anyone be interested in this idea pay a visit to my homepage at: > http://home.indy/~ejones1 I have 4 pages on the site. > > Ed Jones > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at jones-admin@rootsweb.com > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this site: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > search the archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > Unusual JONES given names, http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > >

Hello list, I didn't get the complete address for my homepage. It should have been http://home.indy.net/~ejones1 I left out part of it, sorry about that. Ed Jones

Hello list, Last month I posted a message concerning a JONES Coat of Arms or a JONES Family Crest. Thanks to all who replied to my posting. After all the information I received plus doing some research I found many Coats of Arms & Family Crests for the JONES Family. Some countries require these items to be registered to make them valid. I happen to have two JONES lines. So, after my investigating this I have decided to design my own JONES Family Crest. I have not yet been able to trace either of my JONES lines back to the country of origin which was probably Wales for at least one of them. This being the case I have designed my Family Crest with respect to present day time rather that historic times. Should anyone be interested in this idea pay a visit to my homepage at: http://home.indy/~ejones1 I have 4 pages on the site. Ed Jones

Recently someone was tracing the name BENTON JONES. In my search for Joneses, I happened to find a Benton Jones in the 1800 census from Chowan County, NC.... hope this helps you. Chowan County has a lot of resources.

Still seeking information on W.R. Jones(William Ruff) born 1857 in Winchester,TN. Married Mary Commer(Comer) in 1877 in Winchester, TN.This family left Tennessee in late 1800 for Arkansas and east Texas. Anyone that might have a connection, please let me know. Susan Keener

Hi ! Am looking for JOHN ABRAHAM JONES, born in 1845 in Bolivar, Missouri and died in 1883 in Silver City, New Mexico. His nickname was "Jack". He married EMMA B. SCOTT, born 13 January 1857. They had a son, WALTER SCOT JONES, born 28 January 1881 in Lanisburg, Kansas. Any information greatly appreciation. Thanks, Joe Jones

William.... Is there any James Harvey Jones in Kansas ? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <williamgwinslow@kans.com> To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: [Jones] Jones & Roberts From Wales > Hi > This is also my first time on the Jones News Letter. I book that was written in 1957 on the Jones & Roberts Famiy.My wife is a descendant of Owen R Jones & wife Margaret who started this particular line. Owen R Jones was born Apr 27 1800 in Aberffraw, Isle of Angelsey, North Wales, wife Margaret birth place & death unknown. The decendants that came to the states lived in MN, IA, NE & KS. The couple that we received the book come from 2 different lines of Jones. The wifes family comes from the Kentucky Jones & the husbands family comes from the IA, NE, & KS Jones and buried in south east NE & north east Kansas. If this is of interest to you go to USGENET, Click on State of NE, Gage County NE., Cemeteries of Gage County, and Bethel Cemetery. There are a lot of Jones buried in Bethel. If you are related to any of them let me know as my wife is related to the biggest share of them. If you want to correspond with the lady who gave us the above mentioned book let me know. I do not! > want to put her address on the Internet without her permission so please email me at williamgwinslow@kans.net . Hope there are some connections. > > Bill Winslow > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at jones-admin@rootsweb.com > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this site: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > search the archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > Unusual JONES given names, http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > >

Dear JONES Listers, Sorry to give you aggreviation but some folk get this message to download others don't. I have tried various settings and while some suit some folk, others don't like them. It may be that this is an automatic message that comes from the provider. I have complained to them and they say that it shouldn't happen but it continues to do so. They, however, told that it if such a message appears just click off or cancel and it should disappear. Of course, if you want a copy of the Japanese written language system, presumably Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana, free - then download. Sorry to cause any problems. I guess it is a burden I have to carry living in Japan, but lots of other thing out weight this. Best wishes from Tanumamachi, Tochigiken, Japan, on a bitterly cold morning, Charles

Dear Listers, Here are some of my Jones: Below are the children of Thomas and Mary JONES. All were baptised at St. Johns Old Haymarket, Liverpool, between 1822 and 1825. Margaret JONES, Sarah JONES, Evan Lloyd JONES, Edward JONES, Idwel Howell JONES, John Tudor JONES and Thomas Gywnedd JONES. Of these I only know about Idwel Howell. He moved to Wales, first Flintshire and then Denbigh, where he was still trading in the 1880s. Idwel H. was married to Margaret (-?-) and they had one son, also Idwal Howell JONES. Two other JONES families from Holywell, Flintshire, UK, are not directly related to the Idwal Howell JONES, as far as I know. Abigail JONES married Benjamin JONES, they had a daughter Sarah Ellen JONES who married Idwal Howell GUNTHER, son of Charles GUNTHER and Mary GITTINS. Mary's sister Isabella married Idwal Howell JONES junior son of the above Idwel Howell JONES senior. I don't think any of the JONES family have any representatives in the States or Canada but you never know. Certainly there are a couple of interesting names and with middle names at that. Any bells ringing anywhere? My links are with Idwal Howell GUNTHER, son of Charles GUNTHER of Swiss nationality, and Sarah Ellen JONES. One of their sons was Charles Edward GUNTHER and I am his son. Best wishes, Charles

Kathi, I'm not sure if anyone has responded to your request yet........It is only a small "Menu" or "Prompt" that appears in the center of the screen. It says: To view this message please download the program (japanese,etc.). It's not a bother if it's just from someone from overseas, etc. But now it seems to be happening nearly every post. All everyone needs to do is hit cancel, most of our computer programs has a translater. Don't stop sending your messages Charles.......You could still be our kin, Right? Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathi Jones-Hudson" <mdcat.geo@yahoo.com> To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:05 PM Subject: [Jones] Japanese / From Listowner > Hmmm very odd because I did not get the prompt nor see > any Japanese. Like someone said, it probably has to do > with Charles being in Japan perhaps his ISP routinely > sends along a translator ?? The next time someone gets > something like this can they please forward it in it's > entirety to me at mdcat.geo@yahoo.com > > Kathi Jones-Hudson > JONES Listowner > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at jones-admin@rootsweb.com > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this site: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > search the archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > Unusual JONES given names, http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html >

Looking for info on the on Thomas Iles Jones... parents, siblings and his children. Any help would be appreciated. Thomas Iles (ILES) JONES b: Mar. 1, 1841 Woodford Co., Ky d: Nov. 17, 1912 Schuyler Co. Mo. m: Aug. 5, 1860 Elizabeth Frances BURNS b: Jan. 29, 1842 Decatur Co. Ind. d: Mar. 15, 1928 Schuyler Co. Mo. Children: 1. Ettie I. JONES b: abt. 1862 2. Mary E. JONES b: abt. 1865 3. Cora A. JONES b: abt. 1867 4. Stella F. JONES b. abt.1880 5. Thomas Edward JONES b: June 3, 1875 Schuyler Co. Mo. d: May 5, 1932 Anthony Ks buried in Schuyler Co. Mo. m: Nov. 21, 1894 Schuyler Co. Mo. Mary Etta LEEDOM b:Oct. 6, 1875 Schuyler Co. Mo. d: June 25, 1957 West Plains Mo. Thanks, Jared Scheel jscheel@cox.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scheel/index~1.htm

Let us all stop replying to messages until this goes away. It could be that the prompt for the character set/font original message being replied-to rather than creating an entirely new message is a problem. So just type in JONES-L@rootsweb.com in the next few messages you sent to the List, rather than hitting the "Reply" button. Kathi __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

I can assure you 100% that there is no geeky guy sitting in a dark room at Rootsweb pushing buttons to send mail. All Rootsweb mail is processed by the list/mail software--there is no person sitting there pushing buttons and sending a translator or asking that you download a font. It is more likely that the people who are receiving the Japanese translator message are using OE. If a message is sent in certain character sets OE users get this message about having to download special fonts to read the message. So all I can suggest is to: change defaults in OE for those who are using it and/or hit the delete key and ignore. Kathi Jones-Hudson JONES Listowner __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Kathi, I did not get the message either and I suspect it is because I am working with an XP operating system and have set up Japanese as an alternative language in my International settings. It has been awhile since I worked with another OS but other users can check your options under TOOLS in your E-mail program. Look under the send and read TABS.

This one from Pat Hammons had it also. Don't you think it has to be some button has been pushed when the messages are coming through the Jones L system rather than from the people????? Karli ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hammons" <hammons@mail.community.k12.mo.us> To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Jones] Liverpool JONESes > Yes, I am getting that too, what an aggrivation, sometimes is says Japanese, > Chinese and lord knows what else. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie Foister" <ppita@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Jones] Liverpool JONESes > > > > Moderator, Someone got that download prompt started when the original > > message came in from Japan. You really should just hit cancel. It's > > happening nearly every message. From over seas maybe? You will be able to > > read it anyway. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Patricia Beer" <mamabear@uslink.net> > > To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [Jones] Liverpool JONESes > > > > > > > Why was I prompted to download a Japaneese translator to read this > > message? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "evans-gunther" <evans-gunther@rapid.ocn.ne.jp> > > > To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:16 AM > > > Subject: [Jones] Liverpool JONESes > > > > > > > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > Here are some of my Jones: > > > > > > > > Below are the children of Thomas and Mary JONES. All were baptised at > > St. > > > > Johns Old Haymarket, Liverpool, between 1822 and 1825. > > > > > > > > Margaret JONES, > > > > Sarah JONES, > > > > Evan Lloyd JONES, > > > > Edward JONES, > > > > Idwel Howell JONES, > > > > John Tudor JONES and > > > > Thomas Gywnedd JONES. > > > > > > > > Of these I only know about Idwel Howell. He moved to Wales, first > > > > Flintshire and then Denbigh, where he was still trading in the 1880s. > > > Idwel > > > > H. was married to Margaret (-?-) and they had one son, also Idwal > Howell > > > > JONES. > > > > > > > > Two other JONES families from Holywell, Flintshire, UK, are not > directly > > > > related to the Idwal Howell JONES, as far as I know. Abigail JONES > > > married > > > > Benjamin JONES, they had a daughter Sarah Ellen JONES who married > Idwal > > > > Howell GUNTHER, son of Charles GUNTHER and Mary GITTINS. Mary's > sister > > > > Isabella married Idwal Howell JONES junior son of the above Idwel > Howell > > > > JONES senior. > > > > > > > > I don't think any of the JONES family have any representatives in the > > > States > > > > or Canada but you never know. Certainly there are a couple of > > interesting > > > > names and with middle names at that. > > > > > > > > Any bells ringing anywhere? > > > > > > > > My links are with Idwal Howell GUNTHER, son of Charles GUNTHER of > Swiss > > > > nationality, and Sarah Ellen JONES. One of their sons was Charles > > Edward > > > > GUNTHER and I am his son. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > > > > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at > > > jones-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this > > > site: > > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > > > > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > > > > search the archives: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > > > > Unusual JONES given names, > > > http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > > > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at > > jones-admin@rootsweb.com > > > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this > > site: > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > > > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > > > search the archives: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > > > Unusual JONES given names, > > http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > > > > > > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at > jones-admin@rootsweb.com > > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this > site: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > > search the archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > > Unusual JONES given names, > http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > > > > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at jones-admin@rootsweb.com > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this site: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > search the archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > Unusual JONES given names, http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html >

Charles said he was in Japan, There is a jp on the end of his addy, maybe it is an automatic addition because of his location. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: Pat Hammons [mailto:hammons@mail.community.k12.mo.us] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: JONES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Jones] Liverpool JONESes Yes, I am getting that too, what an aggrivation, sometimes is says Japanese, Chinese and lord knows what else. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Foister" <ppita@tampabay.rr.com> To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Jones] Liverpool JONESes > Moderator, Someone got that download prompt started when the original > message came in from Japan. You really should just hit cancel. It's > happening nearly every message. From over seas maybe? You will be able to > read it anyway. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Beer" <mamabear@uslink.net> > To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Jones] Liverpool JONESes > > > > Why was I prompted to download a Japaneese translator to read this > message? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "evans-gunther" <evans-gunther@rapid.ocn.ne.jp> > > To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:16 AM > > Subject: [Jones] Liverpool JONESes > > > > > > > Dear Listers, > > > Here are some of my Jones: > > > > > > Below are the children of Thomas and Mary JONES. All were baptised at > St. > > > Johns Old Haymarket, Liverpool, between 1822 and 1825. > > > > > > Margaret JONES, > > > Sarah JONES, > > > Evan Lloyd JONES, > > > Edward JONES, > > > Idwel Howell JONES, > > > John Tudor JONES and > > > Thomas Gywnedd JONES. > > > > > > Of these I only know about Idwel Howell. He moved to Wales, first > > > Flintshire and then Denbigh, where he was still trading in the 1880s. > > Idwel > > > H. was married to Margaret (-?-) and they had one son, also Idwal Howell > > > JONES. > > > > > > Two other JONES families from Holywell, Flintshire, UK, are not directly > > > related to the Idwal Howell JONES, as far as I know. Abigail JONES > > married > > > Benjamin JONES, they had a daughter Sarah Ellen JONES who married Idwal > > > Howell GUNTHER, son of Charles GUNTHER and Mary GITTINS. Mary's sister > > > Isabella married Idwal Howell JONES junior son of the above Idwel Howell > > > JONES senior. > > > > > > I don't think any of the JONES family have any representatives in the > > States > > > or Canada but you never know. Certainly there are a couple of > interesting > > > names and with middle names at that. > > > > > > Any bells ringing anywhere? > > > > > > My links are with Idwal Howell GUNTHER, son of Charles GUNTHER of Swiss > > > nationality, and Sarah Ellen JONES. One of their sons was Charles > Edward > > > GUNTHER and I am his son. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Charles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > > > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at > > jones-admin@rootsweb.com > > > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this > > site: > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > > > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > > > search the archives: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > > > Unusual JONES given names, > > http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at > jones-admin@rootsweb.com > > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this > site: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > > search the archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > > Unusual JONES given names, > http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at jones-admin@rootsweb.com > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this site: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > search the archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > Unusual JONES given names, http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at jones-admin@rootsweb.com For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this site: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones search the archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES Unusual JONES given names, http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. 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