No more information yet, though I have now helped two others find relatives that they were looking for... one a birth mother that has now found her son.. and she found him just days before Thanksgiving, and he had been looking for her too. "warm fuzzies" from that I must admit. What is RAOGK? I have never heard of that... I currently live all the way across the country- in the suburbs of Boston. I've now laid out several hundred dollars to "professional" searchers, who have gotten me nowhere.. except (I suspect) scammed. I'm still searching, and maintain hope that in time, if I keep poking around enough, I might get lucky and find a relative, an obituary, or something that may direct me in the right direction. I am planning to try to go to New Hampshire (where my mother had listed as her place of birth) to Concord to see if they will allow me to search birth records from the years 1946-48 for girls born with the last name Jolly; if the information she gave regarding her state of birth is accurate, I will then have her FIRST name, and her parent's names. I am hoping that they will let me... birth records are searchable by family members, but I of course have no "proof" that I am in fact "family". I'm still basically running with the information that was in the original email- a last name (Jolly), her age (20) and some cursory other information regarding her parents and siblings. The last name Jolly is from the California Birth Index, and has been verified against amended birth certificate number; however, the information that is available from the birth index is pretty much that- the orginal birth certificate only listed by number; I was given name "Baby Boy", and she gave her maiden/last name as Jolly- no first name. This is the standard for children placed for adoption at the time, in 1967. No hospital, doctor, names, or anything else. I was hoping I might get some leads before Thanksgiving; maybe Christmas... New Years... Easter? Who knows. I'm continuing the "canvass" emails, hoping that I might get lucky.. though I'm sure I must be getting annoying to anyone with the last name with an email account anywhere in the country!! If nothing else, I guess it's an interesting hobby.. Let me know if you come across any other Jolly folk that might be a match.. had one "false alarm" about two months ago; thought I had found my uncle.. turns out it wasn't him, (a man by the name of Russell Jolly) but he was a heck of nice guy, and we ended up chatting quite a while on the phone... same thing with a woman from California (a Doctor) who I thought might have been my Grandmother; she referred me to her brother in Oregon, Donald, that knows a lot about the Jolly family, and we also chatted for quite a while. Seems the Jolly family is in general a pretty nice crowd.. now if I could only figure out where I fit into the puzzle... Keeping the faith! Hope you had a good Thanksgiving, and hope the rest of the year and holidays treat you well! -Paul Bishop (aka Baby Boy Jolly 8/7/67) -----Original Message----- From: Deborah To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 11/24/00 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Jolly Family.... Have you received any further information? Do you live in the San Diego area? I know in Los Angeles all births before 1964 are confidential, but yours is after that, so someone from RAOGK should be able to help you. I was reviewing old emails that contain surnames in my family. Unfortunately Jolly's I have are only in England. Best of luck Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bishop, Paul" <Paul.Bishop@FMR.com> To: <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 6:00 AM Subject: Jolly Family.... > > Hi all... > > Just resending information, again in hopes that it > may sound familiar (*grin*) to someone.. > > I am looking for a branch of the Jolly family, specifically, > my birth family... I was placed for adoption as a baby, and > though I was adopted by a very loving family, my adoptive parents > have unfortunately passed away quite a few years ago. My adoptive > parents had told me I was adopted very early on, and to me, that > made little difference, as they were always "my parents". In > any case, I decided that I would begin a search in the year 2000, > and here we are. > > What information I have: > > I was born "baby boy Jolly" in San Diego, California on > August 7, 1967, sometime around 6:30 am. > > From "non-identifying" information from adoption agency > (Children's Home Society of California), my mother was unmarried- > therefore, Jolly was her maiden name. She was 20 years old > when I was born, so that would mean that she was born sometime > between 1946 and 1948, and again from her non-identifying info, > she had been born in New Hampshire- though I do not know if > her parents/family were from there... but she was a resident of > California at my birth. By searching social security death index, > I have not found what would be a match, so she is likely alive. > > My mother would be 53 years now, and had two siblings: > > Brother - Should be 51 Years old now; was active military when I > was born... probably Vietnam; though no casualties > by the name of Jolly (one non-caucasian) were recorded, > so I assume he is likely alive. > > Sister - Should be 48 years old now; was student when I was born. > Since she was 15 at the time, it is unlikely that their > parents had other children than the three. > > My mother's parents may make it somewhat easier to nail down: > > Her mother- LVN (Licensed Vocational Nurse). Now, I make a few > assumtions: that she was probably 20 or so when she > had my mother, and my mother was born in New Hampshire, > so my grandmother would be in her early seventies > now, and had possibly been trained as nurse in NH... > though it is VERY possible she could have trained > elsewhere, Possibly in California. She would have been > in her early 40's at my birth (based on assumptions). I do > not know > whether or not she is alive. As my mother's maiden > name was Jolly, my grandmother was a Jolly by marriage. > > Her Father- He was also probably in his early twenties when my > mother was born, so he is also in his early to mid > seventies at this point. At the time of my birth, he > was a "mobile home transporter" - which seems to indicate > that he would had to have had some type of special > driver's permit; possibly a CDL or Heavy Carrier. He > was also listed as retired military in the non-identifying > documentation. Since this is true, and he would probably > have been born in the 1930's, his service was unlikely to > have > been in World War II- which puts him in the service > most likely during Korean War and possibly Phillipines. > Again, I do not know if he is alive. > > This is just about all that I have. The information I have > on my birth father is cursory at best, so I am figuring that that I > will have to identify my mother, and if I decide to contact her, > then I would have to see if she remembers more information about him, > and try to take it from there. > > I cannot emphasize enough that my goal is NOT to disrupt anyone's > lives... I am looking for geneological and medical information, as > well as a "sense of where I came from"... as well as (possibly) discovering > whether I have siblings/half-siblings out there somewhere. > > Thank you all on the list for putting up with this huge email.. > I don't mean to be a pest, but I decided many years ago to do this once > the century turned, and if I am anything, I'm not one to give up! > > If any of this sounds like a possible relative, please email me, > or forward this email to them... > > I can be reached via email: > > work: paul.bishop@fmr.com > home: pbishop@mediaone.net > > Or by telephone: > > work: (508)787-9143 > home: (508)481-2536 > > Thanks once again. > > > - Paul Bishop > a.k.a. 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Wow! Sometimes the simplest ideas are the hardest to obtain. Someone was very nice to mention marriage records. Will as it turns out, California has marriage indexes on microfishe for 1960-1980 for the entire state. It might be time consuming, but find all females married in San Diego with last name Jolly and around 'xx' years old. Review marriage certificates for ones that are nurses. I can do the first part from Los Angeles, but I can not review the marriage certificates. Might be a lead, tho. If she moved away, we all could be spinning our wheels. FYI http://raogk.rootsweb.com/ Rootsweb RAOGK site Deborah Southern California Rootsweb California Birth Index http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/birth/search.cgi Rootsweb California Death Index http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi