Hi Jane and St Enoder Jollys, you sent: >I have a list of St Enoder burials - note a Mrs Charity JOLLY > >Mrs Charity Jolly buried April 29 1702 >Henry the son of Henry Jolly buried March 16 1706 >Joseph Jolly buried March 27, 1708 >Anne the daughter of James Jolly bur Nov 10 1729 >John the son of Henry Jolly buried July 11 1731 >Henry Jolly was buried Dec 9 1745 >James Jolly was bur April 5 1754 >Blanch Jolly was bur March 25 1761 >Francis son of James Jolly was bur April 29 1785 >William son of James Jolly was bur May 10 1785 >Frances dau of James Jolly was bur May 13 1785 >James Jolly bur May 1st 1795 >Philippa Jolly bur Nov 8 1795 Mrs Charity Jolly d 1702 was wife of the Joseph JOLLY b 1672 Henry d 1706 s/o Henry was b 1706. Parents Henry Jolly and Mary Rose/Rowe Joseph d 1708 was the widower of Charity above Anne d 1729 d/o James Jolly was b 1715 St En, sister of Rose b 1710, Elizabeth b 1713 and unnamed F b 1717. Who James was I cannot be sure as the most likely candidate was b 1682 the son of Francis Jolly and Rose May. But this James is believed to be the one who married Blanch Osborne 1709 St En and had Catherine b 1713 St Col Maj and a son James birth date unknown. Any suggestions anyone? John d 1731 s/o Henry I cannot find Henry d 1745 b 1675 was most probably the husband of Mary Rose and s/o Joseph and Charity above James d 1754 b about 1682 was the husband of Blanch Osborne Blanch d 1761 was the widow of James above Francis b 1759-d 1785, William b 1765-d 1785 and Frances b 1772-d 1785 are the chn of James Jolly and Philippa Clemowe m 1754 St En. One has to ask what terrible disease took the three of them within two weeks of each other? Typhoid perhaps or complications of some other fever? James d 1795 was the husband of Philippa Clemowe. But where did he come from? Who were his parents and brothers and sisters? Philippa Jolly d 1795 was the widow of James above. She was from St Col Major. James and Philippa had a daughter Philippa but Victoria Dunlop has found that she died between 1790 and 1793 from information she has. If I have anything incorrect please let me know as this is based on information previously posted. Pat Milne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Mr. Rea, do you know if your family is related to the Alexander Jolly of Bedford Pa. he was born about 1785 there maybe, and married Sarah Kay, they had 10 children names Thomas, John, Mary "Polly", Eleanor. Samuel, William, Jacob, Elizabeth, Nancy and Phillip all born between the yrs. 1785 to 1805, the whole family ended up in Ohio by 1803 and most of them died there or moved to Indiana.Can you help me, I have talked to Mary but she can't get past Alex. and I would like to know who his brothers?sisters? and parents were. Thanks Cyndy Jolly Zuck at Cynz132@aol. com

Erv wrote: > The book is: >H.B. Guppy, Homes of Family Surnames (London, 1890 reprinted 1968) publisher >unknown. >The address is: >Secretary >Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS) >BOX G >Society of Genealogists >14 Charterhouse Buildings >Goswell Road >London, England, EC1M7BA GOONS is also online at : http://www.one-name.org/ and there is no JOLLY or JOLLEY listed in the surnames. Kay Kay Hinnrichsen from Mandurah in Western Australia [CFHS No 4901; YAS No SOB1707; WAGS No 3172; SAGHS No 5477] http://www.southwest.com.au/~kayhin Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html Listowner JOLLY Mailing List To join the 'B O S A N K O List' <mailto:kayhin@southwest.com.au>

Before any one get's too excited: I have the 14th published edition, 1998 of the Register of One-Name Studies, published by The Guild of One-Name Studies, or GOONS, address as given below. I regret to say, neither Jolly nor it's variant Jolley is present in this edition. It may be, that since then, someone has bravely taken up the challenge. The Goon's email address (at as 1998) is guild@one-name.org. Their web site is http://www.one-name.org. I quote from Part 4 - Deposities of past members' records: "Unless a former member has offered the Guild further information regarding the location of his or her research, we are unable to provide any further information than that held in previous editions of the Register of One-Name Studies. "We are advised that much of the material deposited by former Guild members with the Society of Genealogists has not yet been catalogued and is therefore not available for research." There is a publication, available at the Box G address, called "Sources for One-Name Studies and for other Family Historians" by Brian Christmas. UK Price: £2.50 Overseas: £3.50. Stephanie in Kent, UK hunting JOLLEY and JOLLY in NW Kent. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ervin Jensen <eajensen@earthlink.net> To: <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Jolly Locations - everywhere-UPDATE#2 > To all: > There is a book on surnames and an address for surname studies. The book is: > H.B. Guppy, Homes of Family Surnames (London, 1890 reprinted 1968) publisher > unknown. > The address is: > Secretary > Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS) > BOX G > Society of Genealogists > 14 Charterhouse Buildings > Goswell Road > London, England, EC1M7BA > > Hope this helps. > > Erv Jensen eajensen@earthlink.net > > > Ervin Jensen wrote: > > > A note to everyone. When I was in England in October, 1999 I went to the London > > Family History Center. I got some good pulications for resource material. Many > > of the pulications referred to a Center for One Name Studies in London or Kew. > > I can find the address etc for particulars. The center specializes in surname > > studies. everyone and anyone who has researched families by surname is > > collected there. this means that if Jollys were done 100 years ago, at least a > > citation referrence would be on file, if not the whole family geneology by > > surname. Its worth, me, and any of you to check it out. > > > > Will get back to you on address or web url etc. > > > > yours > > > > Erv Jensen eajensen@earthlink.net > > > > Kay Hinnrichsen wrote: > > > > > Hi Marlene, > > > > > > Not at all. This list includes JOLLYs everywhere. It is just that there > > > are a few of us who are a little more vocal than others :) > > > > > > I know for a fact that some of our 'Aussie JOLLYs', or at least siblings of > > > them, went to USA and hopefully we can link in there somewhere. > > > > > > There was a William JOLLY a brother to the Betsy that Jane mentioned who > > > went to Jewell County Kansas and died before 1889. We have no info on him > > > at all. Another went to Alaska and someone is in touch with descendants of > > > his. > > > > > > So by going back as far as Pat and Victoria have done will hopefully find > > > those who have gone every which way by linking into siblings. In our line > > > for instance in that same family, Wm went to USA, Louisa went to South > > > Africa, Betsy and Joseph to Aust, but Jos went back to Cornwall where one > > > sister remained, another went to Guernsey, so really the sky is the limit > > > with this JOLLY lot!! :) > > > > > > Just imagine when we link the lot up we can all go world touring and meet > > > cousins everywhere! > > > > > > Kay > > > > > > At 07:30 14/03/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Hello, everyone. Perhaps I have misunderstood this list? Is it just for > > > >Jollys who went to Austrailia? > > > > > > Kay Hinnrichsen from Mandurah in Western Australia > > > [CFHS No 4901; YAS No SOB1707; WAGS No 3172; SAGHS No 5477] > > > > > > http://www.southwest.com.au/~kayhin > > > Research Names: > > > http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html > > > > > > Listowner JOLLY Mailing List > > > To join the 'B O S A N K O List' <mailto:kayhin@southwest.com.au> > > > > > > ============================== > > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > >

At 05:25 16/03/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Tom: >Caught your email to JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com. There has been various published >genealogies over the years tying Joll(e)y's to the Jolliffe family line in >England and Virginia/West Virginia. These genealogies are wrong. They were two >separate family lines and never were related. The problem also is that in some >of the Jolliffe wills and land deeds you will see both Jolliffe and Jolly used in >the same document. In wills particularly, this says that the person signing the >will did not write it. Hi all, Interesting point that Erv raises here. In our JOLLY line we have a JOLLY who married a JOLIFFE ! Imagine a Cornishman saying a name to a Scotsman or a Yorkshireman etc - the implications of the written word is mind boggling to say the least! Kay

To all: There is a book on surnames and an address for surname studies. The book is: H.B. Guppy, Homes of Family Surnames (London, 1890 reprinted 1968) publisher unknown. The address is: Secretary Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS) BOX G Society of Genealogists 14 Charterhouse Buildings Goswell Road London, England, EC1M7BA Hope this helps. Erv Jensen eajensen@earthlink.net Ervin Jensen wrote: > A note to everyone. When I was in England in October, 1999 I went to the London > Family History Center. I got some good pulications for resource material. Many > of the pulications referred to a Center for One Name Studies in London or Kew. > I can find the address etc for particulars. The center specializes in surname > studies. everyone and anyone who has researched families by surname is > collected there. this means that if Jollys were done 100 years ago, at least a > citation referrence would be on file, if not the whole family geneology by > surname. Its worth, me, and any of you to check it out. > > Will get back to you on address or web url etc. > > yours > > Erv Jensen eajensen@earthlink.net > > Kay Hinnrichsen wrote: > > > Hi Marlene, > > > > Not at all. This list includes JOLLYs everywhere. It is just that there > > are a few of us who are a little more vocal than others :) > > > > I know for a fact that some of our 'Aussie JOLLYs', or at least siblings of > > them, went to USA and hopefully we can link in there somewhere. > > > > There was a William JOLLY a brother to the Betsy that Jane mentioned who > > went to Jewell County Kansas and died before 1889. We have no info on him > > at all. Another went to Alaska and someone is in touch with descendants of > > his. > > > > So by going back as far as Pat and Victoria have done will hopefully find > > those who have gone every which way by linking into siblings. In our line > > for instance in that same family, Wm went to USA, Louisa went to South > > Africa, Betsy and Joseph to Aust, but Jos went back to Cornwall where one > > sister remained, another went to Guernsey, so really the sky is the limit > > with this JOLLY lot!! :) > > > > Just imagine when we link the lot up we can all go world touring and meet > > cousins everywhere! > > > > Kay > > > > At 07:30 14/03/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hello, everyone. Perhaps I have misunderstood this list? Is it just for > > >Jollys who went to Austrailia? > > > > Kay Hinnrichsen from Mandurah in Western Australia > > [CFHS No 4901; YAS No SOB1707; WAGS No 3172; SAGHS No 5477] > > > > http://www.southwest.com.au/~kayhin > > Research Names: > > http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html > > > > Listowner JOLLY Mailing List > > To join the 'B O S A N K O List' <mailto:kayhin@southwest.com.au> > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Hi Tom: Caught your email to JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com. There has been various published genealogies over the years tying Joll(e)y's to the Jolliffe family line in England and Virginia/West Virginia. These genealogies are wrong. They were two separate family lines and never were related. The problem also is that in some of the Jolliffe wills and land deeds you will see both Jolliffe and Jolly used in the same document. In wills particularly, this says that the person signing the will did not write it. We make an incorrect assumption that most people in our colonial times were literate when they were not. People relied upon the few government and physicians etc. to write the documents. The name was spelled how it SOUNDED TO THEM. I've seen an a copy of a land grant in VA. made out to a John Jolly by an English colonial official (about 1668) that was actually listed in a will by John Jolliffe. The thing that ties the will and land grant together is the acre size which was 267 acres in both documents. There is a lady by the name of Mary Henke who is well versed in the name problem as she is related to both the Jolly and Jolliffe lines. Her email address is: mlhenke@teleport.com and I suggest you email her. Get copies of any actual documents you use to see if both spellings were used. Again, the Jolliffe line who finally settled in what is now West Virginia are Not Jollys'. Another problem that exists is that the surname, Jolly was also spelled Jolley interchangeably by members some times within a family. I'm related to a Jolley line. Hope this clarifies things some what. Yours Erv Jensen eajensen @earthlink.net Tom Rea wrote: > >Hi all > >I am searching for PETER JOLLEY who married ROSANNAH HARTLEY, she from > >Morgan/Hampshire Co. W.Va.,Va. They were married prior to 1823 but can find > >no marriage license for them. They were named in a friendly dispute over > >land with Rosanna's brothers and sisters. I know a good bit about her > >family but can find nothing as to who their children were, where they went > >etc. I have searched every where for them to no avail. PLEASE HELP ! Does > >anyone out there have a coonection to this family. Thanks for listening. > >Virginia > > Virginia, > I do not have a direct connection but I do have a promising family to search: > > 1 Peter Jollife > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: abt 1734, Belse, Alsace-Lorain, France > Death: 1786, Washington County, Pennsylvania > Father: Peter Jolly > Mother: Ann > > Spouse: Martha (Mrs. Jolly) > Birth: France > Death: Washington County, Pennsylvania > Marr: abt 1756, Of Chester County, Pennsylvania > > Children: Henry (1757-1842) > Seymore (~1759-) > William (~1761-) > Martha (~1763-) > Elizabeth (1765-1838) > Charles (~1767-1838) > James (~1769-1803) > > 1.1 Henry Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: 26 Dec 1757, Chester County, Pa. > Death: 29 Jul 1842, Jersey Twp., Licking County, Ohio > Burial: Peoria, Ill. > Burial: UNIV. CEM. > > 1.2 Seymore Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: abt 1759, Chester County, Pa. > > 1.3 William Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: abt 1761, Chester County, Pa. > > 1.4 Martha Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: abt 1763, Chester County, Pa. > > 1.5 Elizabeth Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: 1765, Chester County, Pa. > Death: 26 Sep 1838 > > 1.6 Charles Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: abt 1767, Chester County, Pa. > Death: Nov 1838 > > 1.7a James Jolly* > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: abt 1769, Chester County, Pennsylvania > Death: 27 Jan 1803, Washington County, Pennsylvania > > Spouse: Jane Chambers > Birth: abt 1771, Pennsylvania > Death: 16 Jan 1807, Nottingham Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania > Father: James Chambers (Am. Rev.-Pennsylvania) (1743-1815) > Mother: Catherine Hamilton (~1746-1811) > Marr: abt 1790 > > Children: [Sarah] Ruth (1792-1873) > James S. (-1825) > William > Margaret > Jane > Ann > Elizabeth (1792-) > Esther > > Other spouses: Agnes Buchanan > > 1.7a.1 [Sarah] Ruth Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: 1 Jan 1792, Morris Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania > Death: 7 Apr 1873, Morris Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania > > Spouse: Henry Van Kirk Jr. (War Of 1812-Pennsylvania) "Hank" > Birth: 12 May 1788, Hopewell, Mercer County, New Jersey > Death: 12 May 1839, Morris Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania > Father: Henry Van Kirk Sr. (Am. Rev.-New Jersey) (1740-1798) > Mother: Sarah Van Kirk (2nd Wife) (1749->1821) > Marr: abt 1809, Morris Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania > > Children: Mary Ellen (1810-1879) > Dryden (1815-1900) > Sarah Ann (1816-1832) > Jane (1817-) > Charles (1820-1825) > Ruth (1824-) > Susannah (1826-1905) > Milton (1829-) > Phoebe (1831-1836) > Keturah (1832-1868) > > 1.7a.2 James S. Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Death: 30 May 1825, Washington County, Pennsylvania > > 1.7a.3 William Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > > 1.7a.4 Margaret Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > > 1.7a.5 Jane Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > > 1.7a.6 Ann Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > > 1.7a.7 Elizabeth Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > Birth: 1792 > > 1.7a.8 Esther Jolly > --------------------------------------------- > > 1.7b James Jolly* (See above) > --------------------------------------------- > > Spouse: Agnes Buchanan > > Other spouses: Jane Chambers > > I descend from the James Jolly family above so I would be very > interested in anything at all you find about these families. I have > not seen many state side Jolly researchers for some reason. I have > had little luck so far. > > Thomas Rea > Oakland California > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Hi Pat, I don't think that you being Mac :( is all that much of a problem, it is a downloadable program

>Hi all >I am searching for PETER JOLLEY who married ROSANNAH HARTLEY, she from >Morgan/Hampshire Co. W.Va.,Va. They were married prior to 1823 but can find >no marriage license for them. They were named in a friendly dispute over >land with Rosanna's brothers and sisters. I know a good bit about her >family but can find nothing as to who their children were, where they went >etc. I have searched every where for them to no avail. PLEASE HELP ! Does >anyone out there have a coonection to this family. Thanks for listening. >Virginia Virginia, I do not have a direct connection but I do have a promising family to search: 1 Peter Jollife - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1734, Belse, Alsace-Lorain, France Death: 1786, Washington County, Pennsylvania Father: Peter Jolly Mother: Ann Spouse: Martha (Mrs. Jolly) Birth: France Death: Washington County, Pennsylvania Marr: abt 1756, Of Chester County, Pennsylvania Children: Henry (1757-1842) Seymore (~1759-) William (~1761-) Martha (~1763-) Elizabeth (1765-1838) Charles (~1767-1838) James (~1769-1803) 1.1 Henry Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Birth: 26 Dec 1757, Chester County, Pa. Death: 29 Jul 1842, Jersey Twp., Licking County, Ohio Burial: Peoria, Ill. Burial: UNIV. CEM. 1.2 Seymore Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1759, Chester County, Pa. 1.3 William Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1761, Chester County, Pa. 1.4 Martha Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1763, Chester County, Pa. 1.5 Elizabeth Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Birth: 1765, Chester County, Pa. Death: 26 Sep 1838 1.6 Charles Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1767, Chester County, Pa. Death: Nov 1838 1.7a James Jolly* - ------------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1769, Chester County, Pennsylvania Death: 27 Jan 1803, Washington County, Pennsylvania Spouse: Jane Chambers Birth: abt 1771, Pennsylvania Death: 16 Jan 1807, Nottingham Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania Father: James Chambers (Am. Rev.-Pennsylvania) (1743-1815) Mother: Catherine Hamilton (~1746-1811) Marr: abt 1790 Children: [Sarah] Ruth (1792-1873) James S. (-1825) William Margaret Jane Ann Elizabeth (1792-) Esther Other spouses: Agnes Buchanan 1.7a.1 [Sarah] Ruth Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Birth: 1 Jan 1792, Morris Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania Death: 7 Apr 1873, Morris Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania Spouse: Henry Van Kirk Jr. (War Of 1812-Pennsylvania) "Hank" Birth: 12 May 1788, Hopewell, Mercer County, New Jersey Death: 12 May 1839, Morris Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania Father: Henry Van Kirk Sr. (Am. Rev.-New Jersey) (1740-1798) Mother: Sarah Van Kirk (2nd Wife) (1749->1821) Marr: abt 1809, Morris Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania Children: Mary Ellen (1810-1879) Dryden (1815-1900) Sarah Ann (1816-1832) Jane (1817-) Charles (1820-1825) Ruth (1824-) Susannah (1826-1905) Milton (1829-) Phoebe (1831-1836) Keturah (1832-1868) 1.7a.2 James S. Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Death: 30 May 1825, Washington County, Pennsylvania 1.7a.3 William Jolly - ------------------------------------------- 1.7a.4 Margaret Jolly - ------------------------------------------- 1.7a.5 Jane Jolly - ------------------------------------------- 1.7a.6 Ann Jolly - ------------------------------------------- 1.7a.7 Elizabeth Jolly - ------------------------------------------- Birth: 1792 1.7a.8 Esther Jolly - ------------------------------------------- 1.7b James Jolly* (See above) - ------------------------------------------- Spouse: Agnes Buchanan Other spouses: Jane Chambers I descend from the James Jolly family above so I would be very interested in anything at all you find about these families. I have not seen many state side Jolly researchers for some reason. I have had little luck so far. Thomas Rea Oakland California

I am so happy so finally see activity in the Jolly, Jolly Rootsweb lists. Since we now have subscribers in USA, AU and UK, I think it would be helpful if we would include the country in the subject line. I, as many of you no doubt, have to scan through many lists daily. The more identification as to area, the easier the scanning. Just an idea. Your thoughts? Tom Rea in Oakland, California, USA

Hi All, Victoria -Have you the paper copy of the parish record of Henry ( 1675) birth ? I had a thought - perhaps the "s" of Joseph was written as the funny "f" that was used in old script. This could help to explain confusion between Joseh and John. I agree that Joseph sounds much more like ours ! I have a list of St Enoder burials - note a Mrs Charity JOLLY Mrs Charity Jolly buried April 29 1702 Henry the son of Henry Jolly buried March 16 1706 Joseph Jolly buried March 27, 1708 Anne the daughter of James Jolly bur Nov 10 1729 John the son of Henry Jolly buried July 11 1731 Henry Jolly was buried Dec 9 1745 James Jolly was bur April 5 1754 Blanch Jolly was bur March 25 1761 Francis son of James Jolly was bur April 29 1785 William son of James Jolly was bur May 10 1785 Frances dau of James Jolly was bur May 13 1785 James Jolly bur May 1st 1795 Philippa Jolly bur Nov 8 1795 Now lets match them up ! Bye, Jane

There is a good map of St Enoder area at http://www.shropshirelad.free-online.co.uk/C_CORN.HTM Cheers - Betty of the Bay of Islands, NZ http://members.tripod.com/BettyJuranovich > Hi Jane and all St Enoder area Jolly searchers: > > I really need to get some sort of detailed map of all the parishes around St > Enoder, Ladock, St Columb Major parts. I think there are some little > churches in between that are no longer marked on current maps but I do not > know what they are. Thanks Jane for placing Mawgan in Pyder/Pydar (where > does the Lanherne-Rc fit into it?) into its relevant place. I have put > together a list of Mawgan in Pydar/ Lanherne-Rc Mawgan in Pyder bp and m's > from the IGI if anyone is interested.

Hi Betty and Peter, Thanks for the help regarding finding parishes in Cornwall. I did take a copy of your map Betty but Peter, your site may defeat me as I have a Mac and no Windows software, unless I can learn how to do it with what I have. Cheerio, Pat Milne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Erv, Any previously published histories on the Jollys would be very valuable. Do let us know if any are available, I for one would be most appreciative. >A note to everyone. When I was in England in October, 1999 I went to the >London >Family History Center. I got some good pulications for resource material. >Many >of the pulications referred to a Center for One Name Studies in London or >Kew. >I can find the address etc for particulars. The center specializes in >surname >studies. everyone and anyone who has researched families by surname is >collected there. this means that if Jollys were done 100 years ago, at >least a >citation referrence would be on file, if not the whole family geneology by >surname. Its worth, me, and any of you to check it out. > >Will get back to you on address or web url etc. Many thanks for the suggestion, Pat Milne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

At 23:52 14/03/2000 PST, you wrote: >Hi Jane and all St Enoder area Jolly searchers: > >I really need to get some sort of detailed map of all the parishes around St >Enoder, Ladock, St Columb Major parts. Pat, We keep meaning to get together! I have most of the Explorer ordinance maps for Land's End [102], The Lizard [103], Redruth & St Agnes [104], Falmouth & Mevagissey [105], Newquay & Padstow [106], St Austell & Liskeard [107]. The scale on these is 4cm to 1 km. So ............... I am still going through all your bits on the JOLLYs and matching up with Victoria's amendments. I shall check my info on Betsy JOLLY as well. I have been busy rearranging my gene room with newly acquired furniture - now I can spread out MORE!! Kay Kay Hinnrichsen from Mandurah in Western Australia [CFHS No 4901; YAS No SOB1707; WAGS No 3172; SAGHS No 5477] http://www.southwest.com.au/~kayhin Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html Listowner JOLLY Mailing List To join the 'B O S A N K O List' <mailto:kayhin@southwest.com.au>

Hi Pat, "Pat Milne" wrote > > I really need to get some sort of detailed map of all the parishes around > St Enoder, Ladock, St Columb Major parts. The David and Charles reprints of the Victorian Ordnance Survey maps (with a good magnifying glass!) are helpful for locating small settlements that don't always appear on modern maps. Cornwall is covered by Sheets 89, 90, 95, 96 and 97. I have 89 and 96 - which cover about 80% of the county and all my areas of interest. Gould Books sell them ($14 each). Their online catalogue is at - http://www.gould.com.au > The IGI maintains that Henry b 1675 St Enoder is the son of JOSEH > (interpreted as JOSEPH rather than JOHN) I have not seen the original > although perhaps Victoria Dunlop has and she may be able to clear up this > mystery for us. > > > >Brian sent the info over as " St Enoder Baptism - The 22nd day of > >January 1675 was baptised Henry the sonn of John Jolly " His words > >were " as much as we can tie it down , it looks like Henry is your > >man" I have Henry, son of Joseph Jolley, bapt. 22 Jan 1675 and have assumed that the unnamed mother is Charity. Joseph and Charity and William and Amy were the only two JOLLY couples producing children in St. Enoder at this time. The children I have listed for Joseph and Charity match those you posted to the list a month or so ago, Pat - 1660 11 Jun Benjamine 1662 22 Apr Charles 1664 12 Apr Cheratie 1665/6 13 Mar Patience 1668 15 Sep Robert 1672 15 Jul Charity 1675/6 22 Jan Henry 1678/9 24 Mar Dorothy Henry and Rose named their children Charity, Henry, Joseph ....... It looks and feels right. I wonder, Pat, would you mind posting the early St. Enoder tree to the list again so that we can all take another look at it. Cheers, Victoria ********************************************************************* Victoria Dunlop Richmond, Victoria, Australia E-mail: victoriad@ozemail.com.au Dead Dunny Website: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~victoriad/ *********************************************************************

Hi Pat Try this nifty little download, it is shareware and easy to use..... http://www.lnmfhs.dircon.co.uk/steeljam/parishlocator.htm Peter

Hi Jane and all St Enoder area Jolly searchers: I really need to get some sort of detailed map of all the parishes around St Enoder, Ladock, St Columb Major parts. I think there are some little churches in between that are no longer marked on current maps but I do not know what they are. Thanks Jane for placing Mawgan in Pyder/Pydar (where does the Lanherne-Rc fit into it?) into its relevant place. I have put together a list of Mawgan in Pydar/ Lanherne-Rc Mawgan in Pyder bp and m's from the IGI if anyone is interested. >Thanks for the info on John JOLLY & Loveday BLACKMORE. I have been >going through what I have and adjusting and making notes. There was a >child ( Blackmore) that I did not even have ! Blackmore is proving a bit of a mystery man as we don't seem to know much about him. > >There are a few errors that I may have or you may have. I hope you do >not mind me going through them. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. I have posted what I've collected and am hoping someone will add and/or correct what I've put down. > >You have Betsy JOLLY ( Kay & my line) as dying at Moonta. They lived >at Kadina in retirement, and believe they died at Kadina, buried at >Moonta. Will check. I may have misread Kay's info on Betsy so will check with her too. > >I have Henry JOLLY who died at Mintaro as 28 Oct 1888 ? I also have >details of his family - do you want those ? YES PLEASE. > >I have Joseph JOLLY marrying Harriet DAVIS (not DAVIES ? ) Also had >no record of him being a Moonta Mining Captain - Kay - have you got >that one ? Joseph and Harriet are my great grandparents and as Harriet was Welsh I am certain her surname should be DAVIES. Joseph's info re mining captain is on marr and child's birth cert. Family info places him at Moonta but I cannot find anything that definitely places him there. > >Also , you have Elizabeth b 1843 dau of William JOLLY , listed as a >clay labourer ? I've checked back to my original records and found that when I wrote Elizabeth, I had Henry (son of Wm and Philippa) recorded below her and inadvertantly missed him out and transcribed his occupation to her. On the 1861 census Henry aged 20 (b. 1841) and Elizabeth aged 18 (b 1843) were recorded as still living with their parents in St Stephen in Brannel. Henry was a china clay labourer and Elizabeth the dau of a stone cutter. Thanks for pointing out my mistake. > >And you have a John JOLLY death 1696 in St Stephen in Brannell - >could this be the father of Henry JOLLY of St Enoder , our unproven >link. Brian Nice , when he did some work for me , had John as the >father of Henry - I assume from parish records that he sighted but as >yet I do not have a copy. Henry JOLLY of St Enoder b 1675. is in my >file with a big question mark ! ( Henry of St Enoder had a son, >Joseph b 1711 - OUR Joseph who married Mary BOND ??? ) The IGI maintains that Henry b 1675 St Enoder is the son of JOSEH (interpreted as JOSEPH rather than JOHN) I have not seen the original although perhaps Victoria Dunlop has and she may be able to clear up this mystery for us. > >Brian sent the info over as " St Enoder Baptism - The 22nd day of >January 1675 was baptised Henry the sonn of John Jolly " His words >were " as much as we can tie it down , it looks like Henry is your >man" > >I also have miscellaneous JOLLY burials from St Enoder that I will >send later. That would be great Jane. Many thanks, Pat ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

A note to everyone. When I was in England in October, 1999 I went to the London Family History Center. I got some good pulications for resource material. Many of the pulications referred to a Center for One Name Studies in London or Kew. I can find the address etc for particulars. The center specializes in surname studies. everyone and anyone who has researched families by surname is collected there. this means that if Jollys were done 100 years ago, at least a citation referrence would be on file, if not the whole family geneology by surname. Its worth, me, and any of you to check it out. Will get back to you on address or web url etc. yours Erv Jensen eajensen@earthlink.net Kay Hinnrichsen wrote: > Hi Marlene, > > Not at all. This list includes JOLLYs everywhere. It is just that there > are a few of us who are a little more vocal than others :) > > I know for a fact that some of our 'Aussie JOLLYs', or at least siblings of > them, went to USA and hopefully we can link in there somewhere. > > There was a William JOLLY a brother to the Betsy that Jane mentioned who > went to Jewell County Kansas and died before 1889. We have no info on him > at all. Another went to Alaska and someone is in touch with descendants of > his. > > So by going back as far as Pat and Victoria have done will hopefully find > those who have gone every which way by linking into siblings. In our line > for instance in that same family, Wm went to USA, Louisa went to South > Africa, Betsy and Joseph to Aust, but Jos went back to Cornwall where one > sister remained, another went to Guernsey, so really the sky is the limit > with this JOLLY lot!! :) > > Just imagine when we link the lot up we can all go world touring and meet > cousins everywhere! > > Kay > > At 07:30 14/03/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello, everyone. Perhaps I have misunderstood this list? Is it just for > >Jollys who went to Austrailia? > > Kay Hinnrichsen from Mandurah in Western Australia > [CFHS No 4901; YAS No SOB1707; WAGS No 3172; SAGHS No 5477] > > http://www.southwest.com.au/~kayhin > Research Names: > http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html > > Listowner JOLLY Mailing List > To join the 'B O S A N K O List' <mailto:kayhin@southwest.com.au> > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Thanks for the info. I got sorta scared there for a minute :-) Thought I'd stuck my nose in where it didn't belong. Good luck to all of us!!! Marlene