I'm just checking to see if my mail is getting through. I sent my messages 7 hours ago and have not had anything arrive on my puter yet. Is it because I am on the digest format? Gerrie

Correction to URL for Canada Land Grants which I don't think went through right the first time. http://www.archives.ca/exec/naweb.dll?fs&02011102&e&top&0 Hope this makes it this time. Gerrie

The following JOLLY people homesteaded on the Canadian prairies between 1870 and 1930 & were given lands under the Dominion Land Grants.The actual dates are not given. You can look up references at: http://www. archives.ca/exec/naweb.dll?fs&02011102&e&top&0 James JOLLY (#1) William JOLLY (#3) Ernest Jolly BURR James JOLLY (#3) Clement JOLLY Reginald Fuller JOLLY Eustace Walter JOLLY Patrick JOLLY Thomas JOLLY Alfred JOLLY Christopher Harvey JOLLEY Charles JOLLY John JOLLEY (townsite of Dawson Harold Charles JOLLY Yukon Territory) Alexander Sproat JOLLY Alfred William JOLLYE Robert Gibson JOLLY Florence JOLLY Raoul JOLY Gordon JOLLY Phydime JOLY Edward James JOLLY Theodoric JOLY John JOLLY Landas JOLY Hugh JOLLY Fabien JOLY Ernest JOLLY Louis JOLY William JOLLY(#1) John JOLY Alfred William JOLLY William Joly HART James JOLLY (#2) Raoul JOLY (#2) William JOLLY (#2) John Watson JOLLY Samuel JOLLY James G. JOLLY Arthur Rupert JOLLY Bernard W. JOLLY

I picked up a tid bit on the JOLLYE spelling of the name. Alfred JOLLYE homesteaded SE 10-20-28W on land records of Manitoba Canada in 1886 This is (62K/11) southof Russell Manitoba where JOLLYES LAKE is situated. Hope it helps someone. Gerrie

Hi! Ivy (nee JOlly) here! Have just sent message to Emma re find in Chorley, Lancs, Eng. of birth & christening on 27/28 June 1805, of William, s/o William & PHOEBE Jolley, of Heath Charnock, Lan. U.K. May be of help? -----Original Message----- From: MAPPAUSTEN@aol.com <MAPPAUSTEN@aol.com> To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 15 August 2000 01:46 Subject: JOLLY, Phoebe, b. ca. 1774 > >--part1_dd.85587d5.26c9512b_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I am reposting a request for info re Phoebe Jolly. Are there any JOLLY >researchers out there who have seen info about my Phoebe? My line is through >her second marriage to Richard WEAVER BARNES of MD. Phoebe came to Ohio >where she died following the death of her third husband. Her daughters has >already moved to Ohio ahead of her. Thank you. Marjory PETTY Austen >MAPPAusten@aol.com > >Marjory, > >She does not ring any bells with me at all I'm afraid. > >Have you posted to the list? > >JOLLY, Phoebe Christening > Sex: Female > Birth Date: 22 Apr 1885 > Christening Date: 10 May 1885 Recorded in: Adlington, Lancashire, >England > Father: James JOLLY > Mother: Anne > Source: FHL Number 1526077 Dates: 1876-1897 > >BRATT, John Age: 21 years Marriage > Wife: Phoebe JOLLEY Age: 22 years > Marriage Date: 22 Sep 1889 Recorded in: Saint John, Hanley, Stafford, >England > Husband's Father: John BRATT > Wife's Father: John JOLLEY >Source: FHL Number 1470997 Dates: 1873-1898 >BROOKS, Adam Age: 25 years Marriage > Wife: Phoebe JOLLY Age: 24 years > Marriage Date: 28 Jul 1867 Recorded in: Adlington, Lancashire, England > Husband's Father: William BROOKS > Wife's Father: William JOLLY >Source: FHL Number 1526077 Dates: 1843-1900 > >This is all I could get on Phoebe. I have no US records. Maybe Someone >else on the list has? > >--part1_dd.85587d5.26c9512b_boundary >Content-Type: message/rfc822 >Content-Disposition: inline > >Return-Path: <JOLLY-L-request@rootsweb.com> >Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:33:46 -0400 >Received: from lists3.rootsweb.com (lists3.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.39]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:33:26 -0400 >Received: (from slist@localhost) > by lists3.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e7EDX7825844; > Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:33:07 -0700 >Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:33:07 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: kayhin@southwest.com.au Mon Aug 14 06:33:04 2000 >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000814213335.007ab590@mail.southwest.com.au> >X-Sender: kayhin@mail.southwest.com.au >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:33:35 +0800 >Old-To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com >From: Kay Hinnrichsen <kayhin@southwest.com.au> >Subject: Re: Vital Records - JOLLY >In-Reply-To: <31.8d04448.26c9463e@aol.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Resent-Message-ID: <-F2AXD.A.nTG.SU_l5@lists3.rootsweb.com> >To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/209 >X-Loop: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: JOLLY-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Hi Marjory, > >She does not ring any bells with me at all I'm afraid. > >Have you posted to the list? > >JOLLY, Phoebe Christening > Sex: Female > Birth Date: 22 Apr 1885 > Christening Date: 10 May 1885 Recorded in: Adling > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ >

<Hi, Emma! Yesterday I searched the following for my JOLLY line from Leyland, Lancs & came across this birth-don't know if any use? The film is EUXTON CHAPELRY PARISH OF LEYLAND, LANCS. ENG. FHS No. 093703. Film No. 134 Chorley (St Lawrence) 1548-1947. 1805 27 June B., 28 June C., William s/o William & Phoebe JOLLEY, Heath Charnock. There are a lot of Jollys in & around Leyland, mine were mainly in Whittle-le-Woods but generally the CHORLEY Registry area. I also have a computer printout my sister in Eng. supplied stating there were JOLIEs as far back as 1066 & they came over from France. Happy hunting - hope this helps someone? Ivy (nee JOLLY)_-----Original Message----- From: Emma Jolly <jolly.emma@virgin.net> To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, 14 August 2000 22:38 Subject: Re: Vital Records - JOLLY >Thanks for posting this. I'm not sure what the original query was, but I >have an ancestor called William JOLLY, who was born c.1843 whose father was >James Jolly. He was supposed to have been born in Montrose in Angus, >Scotland, but his birth wasn't registered. If anyone researching William >JOLLYs of similar period comes across my ancestor, please don't hesitate to >get in touch. > >On another point, I am interested in gauging where JOLLYs originated from >and where they lived in clusters in the world. I have heard that the name >originates from France. There are still variations on the name in France >today [e.g. Joly]. I have come across clusters in Angus (19th century) up to >the present day), Lancashire (19th century, but less so now), and Cornwall >[not sure of the period]. I'd like to know of any other clusters that >listers have come across and more on the origins of the name, so that I can >try and establish some kind of pattern. > >Best wishes, Emma. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kay Hinnrichsen <kayhin@southwest.com.au> >To: <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:37 PM >Subject: Vital Records - JOLLY > > >> Quinton, >> >> I am posting these to the list in case they are of any use to others as >> well. These are from the Vital Records Index British Isles CDs. >> >> JOLLEY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Christening Date: 24 Mar 1837 Recorded in: Saint Paul, Warrington, >> Lancashire, England >> Father: Benjamin JOLLEY >> Mother: Elizabeth >> Source: FHL Number 1469047 Dates: 1831-1856 >> JOLLY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Birthplace: Eye >> Christening Date: 20 Nov 1842 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for >> Suffolk County, England >> Father: Henry JOLLY >> Mother: Mary >> Source: FHL Number 918544 Dates: 1842-1842 >> JOLLY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Christening Date: 1 Sep 1844 Recorded in: St. Chad, Rochdale, >Lancashire, >> England >> Father: James JOLLY >> Mother: Jane >> Source: FHL Number 1342498 Dates: 1841-1856 >> JOLLY, William Stout Christening >> Sex: Male >> Christening Date: 7 Apr 1844 Recorded in: Warrington, Lancashire, >England >> Father: Benjamin JOLLY >> Mother: Catharine >> Source: FHL Number 1468989 Dates: 1835-1848 >> JOLLY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Birthplace: Framlingham >> Christening Date: 4 Aug 1844 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for >> Suffolk County, England >> Father: John JOLLY >> Mother: Sophia >> Source: FHL Number 918658 Dates: 1844-1844 >> JOLLY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Birthplace: Wortham >> Christening Date: 15 Sep 1844 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for >> Suffolk County, England >> Father: James JOLLY >> Mother: Harriett >> Source: FHL Number 918660 Dates: 1844-1845 >> JOLLY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Birthplace: Hopton >> Christening Date: 5 Oct 1845 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for >> Suffolk County, England >> Father: John JOLLY >> Mother: Maria >> Source: FHL Number 918660 Dates: 1844-1845 >> JOLLY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Christening Date: 18 Jan 1846 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for >> Suffolk County, England >> Father: William JOLLY >> Mother: Rachel >> Source: FHL Number 918662 Dates: 1846-1846 >> JOLLEY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Christening Date: 12 Apr 1846 Recorded in: Coppull, Lancashire, England >> Father: Josiah JOLLEY >> Mother: Anne >> Source: FHL Number 1068752 Dates: 1812-1865 >> JOLLY, William Christening >> Sex: Male >> Birthplace: Mendlesham >> Christening Date: 24 Jan 1847 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for >> Suffolk County, England >> Father: John JOLLY >> Mother: Sarah >> Source: FHL Number 918663 Dates: 1847-1847 >> >> >> >> >> Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia >> >> Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for >> WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ >> Research Names: >> http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html >> > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Hi All Just received this. Hope it helps someone. These are MIs. Subject: RE: COMMON / JOLLY / KESSELL / OSBORNE / JOLLY / HAWKE / HARRIS /POLKINGHORNE Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:01:16 +0100 To: "'Kay Hinnrichsen'" <kayhin@southwest.com.au> From: Jacqy Faull <JacqyF@pira.co.uk> Hi Kay Yes there is a JOLLYs Bottom at Chacewater - have a few FAULLs who lived in that vicinity, also at Skinners Bottom - conjures up all sorts of images! Herewith your JOLLY request St Columb Minor Elizabeth JOLLY, d 10 Dec 1879 COMI 193 Henry JOLLY, [ref] COMI 193 James JOLLY, d 1 Apr 1882, COMI 193 John JOLLY [ref] COMI 193 Chacewater Churchyard Elizabeth Mary JOLLY, d 16 July 1955, 82yrs CHA 277 James JOLLY, d 13 Aug 1946, 80yrs CHA 277 Howard E JOLLY d 12 Apr 1990, 85yrs, card 109 Maurice JOLLY d 30 Aug 1990, 56yrs, card 109 Kea MIs Charity JOLLY, d 25 Jul 1912, 15yrs, LOC E-N2 Janie JOLLY [ref] LOC E-N2 Mary Jane JOLLY d 11 Feb 1938, 63yrs, LOC A-E52 Richard JOLLY [ref] LOC E-N2 Would you also be interested in 16 TONKINs buried in Chacewater churchyard? jacqy -----Original Message----- From: Kay Hinnrichsen [mailto:kayhin@southwest.com.au] Sent: 15 August 2000 1:28 PM To: Jacqy Faull Subject: Re: COMMON / JOLLY / KESSELL / OSBORNE / JOLLY / HAWKE / HARRIS / POLKINGHORNE Hi Jacqy, Yes please re the JOLLYs I noticed while in con last year that there was a JOLLY's bottom at Chacewater. Thanks Kay Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html

Hi Kay et al, I've just arrived back and just caught your message! Haven't caught up yet and as I didn't go to Cornwall this time there is nothing new to report. But I will be soon on line with more questions I'm sure. Pat >PS - Probably quiet because Pat's still in UK!!! [Think I am in trouble >if she has snuck back in aren't I!!!! <g>] ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

As I understand it, the surname "Jolly" came from these origins. 1. it came from the Old French "jolif" meaning the same as the Middle English "jolly" and from Old Norse "jol" yule, a time of joy and celebration. 2. In the Middle Ages when surnames were beginning to be used, the surname was taken from the Middle English "Jolly/Jolley" meaning happy, good-humoured. 3. From the 17th Century, French immigrants with the French form "Joly" or "Jolie". My own family originated from Suffolk, and there are various pockets of them all over East Anglia. All variants of the name also appear in Kent, from the beginning of Parish Records. Stephanie Stephenson nee Jolly in Kent, England. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Jolly" <jolly.emma@virgin.net> To: <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Vital Records - JOLLY > Thanks for posting this. I'm not sure what the original query was, but I > have an ancestor called William JOLLY, who was born c.1843 whose father was > James Jolly. He was supposed to have been born in Montrose in Angus, > Scotland, but his birth wasn't registered. If anyone researching William > JOLLYs of similar period comes across my ancestor, please don't hesitate to > get in touch. > > On another point, I am interested in gauging where JOLLYs originated from > and where they lived in clusters in the world. I have heard that the name > originates from France. There are still variations on the name in France > today [e.g. Joly]. I have come across clusters in Angus (19th century) up to > the present day), Lancashire (19th century, but less so now), and Cornwall > [not sure of the period]. I'd like to know of any other clusters that > listers have come across and more on the origins of the name, so that I can > try and establish some kind of pattern. > > Best wishes, Emma. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kay Hinnrichsen <kayhin@southwest.com.au> > To: <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:37 PM > Subject: Vital Records - JOLLY > > > > Quinton, > > > > I am posting these to the list in case they are of any use to others as > > well. These are from the Vital Records Index British Isles CDs. > > > > JOLLEY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Christening Date: 24 Mar 1837 Recorded in: Saint Paul, Warrington, > > Lancashire, England > > Father: Benjamin JOLLEY > > Mother: Elizabeth > > Source: FHL Number 1469047 Dates: 1831-1856 > > JOLLY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Birthplace: Eye > > Christening Date: 20 Nov 1842 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > > Suffolk County, England > > Father: Henry JOLLY > > Mother: Mary > > Source: FHL Number 918544 Dates: 1842-1842 > > JOLLY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Christening Date: 1 Sep 1844 Recorded in: St. Chad, Rochdale, > Lancashire, > > England > > Father: James JOLLY > > Mother: Jane > > Source: FHL Number 1342498 Dates: 1841-1856 > > JOLLY, William Stout Christening > > Sex: Male > > Christening Date: 7 Apr 1844 Recorded in: Warrington, Lancashire, > England > > Father: Benjamin JOLLY > > Mother: Catharine > > Source: FHL Number 1468989 Dates: 1835-1848 > > JOLLY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Birthplace: Framlingham > > Christening Date: 4 Aug 1844 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > > Suffolk County, England > > Father: John JOLLY > > Mother: Sophia > > Source: FHL Number 918658 Dates: 1844-1844 > > JOLLY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Birthplace: Wortham > > Christening Date: 15 Sep 1844 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > > Suffolk County, England > > Father: James JOLLY > > Mother: Harriett > > Source: FHL Number 918660 Dates: 1844-1845 > > JOLLY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Birthplace: Hopton > > Christening Date: 5 Oct 1845 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > > Suffolk County, England > > Father: John JOLLY > > Mother: Maria > > Source: FHL Number 918660 Dates: 1844-1845 > > JOLLY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Christening Date: 18 Jan 1846 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > > Suffolk County, England > > Father: William JOLLY > > Mother: Rachel > > Source: FHL Number 918662 Dates: 1846-1846 > > JOLLEY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Christening Date: 12 Apr 1846 Recorded in: Coppull, Lancashire, England > > Father: Josiah JOLLEY > > Mother: Anne > > Source: FHL Number 1068752 Dates: 1812-1865 > > JOLLY, William Christening > > Sex: Male > > Birthplace: Mendlesham > > Christening Date: 24 Jan 1847 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > > Suffolk County, England > > Father: John JOLLY > > Mother: Sarah > > Source: FHL Number 918663 Dates: 1847-1847 > > > > > > > > > > Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia > > > > Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for > > WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ > > Research Names: > > http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html > > > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Hi Paul, A couple of things. 1. I take it you have accessed the usual "JigSaw" agencies - I am assuming you have such things in the US? You have certainly taken on a task! I think as family historians we can all appreciate your wish to seek out your roots and that it in no way reflects on your adoptive parents - you speak so well of them. 2. Some thoughts on grandmother JOLLY - as a nurse myself I wonder if you could trace her by looking for her nurse's registration details. In Oz we are required to supply name, address, MAIDEN name and place of training - I am referring to a Registered Nurse by the way. I don't know how you would do that. We have a Nurses Registration Board in each state easily found in the phone book. You say she was a Licenced VN so that licence would be the thing to track. 3. Is there a Veterans Body that you could write to asking info on grandfather JOLLY? Do you know anyone who could do a drivers licence check for you in case he has a current licence (that is a long shot :) Don't limit yourself to that age group for g/ma & g/pa as your mother may have been the youngest of a long line of siblings! Check the Death Index (cannot remember what it's called for his death perhaps - gat a few likelies and eliminate. That is my 2 bits worth anyway Paul. Good luck and please keep us updated! :) Kay >Paul can be reached via email: > >work: paul.bishop@fmr.com >home: pbishop@mediaone.net > >Or by telephone: > >work: (508)787-9143 >home: (508)481-2536 > >Thanks once again. > >- Paul Bishop > a.k.a. "Baby Boy Jolly 8/7/67" Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html

Hi all... Just resending information, again in hopes that it may sound familiar (*grin*) to someone.. I am looking for a branch of the Jolly family, specifically, my birth family... I was placed for adoption as a baby, and though I was adopted by a very loving family, my adoptive parents have unfortunately passed away quite a few years ago. My adoptive parents had told me I was adopted very early on, and to me, that made little difference, as they were always "my parents". In any case, I decided that I would begin a search in the year 2000, and here we are. What information I have: I was born "baby boy Jolly" in San Diego, California on August 7, 1967, sometime around 6:30 am. >From "non-identifying" information from adoption agency (Children's Home Society of California), my mother was unmarried- therefore, Jolly was her maiden name. She was 20 years old when I was born, so that would mean that she was born sometime between 1946 and 1948, and again from her non-identifying info, she had been born in New Hampshire- though I do not know if her parents/family were from there... but she was a resident of California at my birth. By searching social security death index, I have not found what would be a match, so she is likely alive. My mother would be 53 years now, and had two siblings: Brother - Should be 51 Years old now; was active military when I was born... probably Vietnam; though no casualties by the name of Jolly (one non-caucasian) were recorded, so I assume he is likely alive. Sister - Should be 48 years old now; was student when I was born. Since she was 15 at the time, it is unlikely that their parents had other children than the three. My mother's parents may make it somewhat easier to nail down: Her mother- LVN (Licensed Vocational Nurse). Now, I make a few assumtions: that she was probably 20 or so when she had my mother, and my mother was born in New Hampshire, so my grandmother would be in her early seventies now, and had possibly been trained as nurse in NH... though it is VERY possible she could have trained elsewhere, Possibly in California. She would have been in her early 40's at my birth (based on assumptions). I do not know whether or not she is alive. As my mother's maiden name was Jolly, my grandmother was a Jolly by marriage. Her Father- He was also probably in his early twenties when my mother was born, so he is also in his early to mid seventies at this point. At the time of my birth, he was a "mobile home transporter" - which seems to indicate that he would had to have had some type of special driver's permit; possibly a CDL or Heavy Carrier. He was also listed as retired military in the non-identifying documentation. Since this is true, and he would probably have been born in the 1930's, his service was unlikely to have been in World War II- which puts him in the service most likely during Korean War and possibly Phillipines. Again, I do not know if he is alive. This is just about all that I have. The information I have on my birth father is cursory at best, so I am figuring that that I will have to identify my mother, and if I decide to contact her, then I would have to see if she remembers more information about him, and try to take it from there. I cannot emphasize enough that my goal is NOT to disrupt anyone's lives... I am looking for geneological and medical information, as well as a "sense of where I came from"... as well as (possibly) discovering whether I have siblings/half-siblings out there somewhere. Thank you all on the list for putting up with this huge email.. I don't mean to be a pest, but I decided many years ago to do this once the century turned, and if I am anything, I'm not one to give up! If any of this sounds like a possible relative, please email me, or forward this email to them... I can be reached via email: work: paul.bishop@fmr.com home: pbishop@mediaone.net Or by telephone: work: (508)787-9143 home: (508)481-2536 Thanks once again. - Paul Bishop a.k.a. "Baby Boy Jolly 8/7/67"

Hi Marjory, She does not ring any bells with me at all I'm afraid. Have you posted to the list? JOLLY, Phoebe Christening Sex: Female Birth Date: 22 Apr 1885 Christening Date: 10 May 1885 Recorded in: Adlington, Lancashire, England Father: James JOLLY Mother: Anne Source: FHL Number 1526077 Dates: 1876-1897 BRATT, John Age: 21 years Marriage Wife: Phoebe JOLLEY Age: 22 years Marriage Date: 22 Sep 1889 Recorded in: Saint John, Hanley, Stafford, England Husband's Father: John BRATT Wife's Father: John JOLLEY Source: FHL Number 1470997 Dates: 1873-1898 BROOKS, Adam Age: 25 years Marriage Wife: Phoebe JOLLY Age: 24 years Marriage Date: 28 Jul 1867 Recorded in: Adlington, Lancashire, England Husband's Father: William BROOKS Wife's Father: William JOLLY Source: FHL Number 1526077 Dates: 1843-1900 This is all I could get on Phoebe. I have no US records. Maybe Someone else on the list has? Kay At 08:55 AM 14-08-00 EDT, you wrote: >Kay, >Do you have anything on Phoebe JOLLY, b. ca. 1775 either in US or England? I >cannot locate her parentage. She was married three times: MARTIN, Richard >WEAVOR BARNES (mine), and Ezekiel LEWIS. She is a brick wall to me! Marjory >A. Austen > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html

Hi Emma, Our JOLLYs go back to at least the 1600s and probably before in Cornwall. Yes, I agree that there are some from France, but whether they all are I don't know. Some of our line also went to Guernsey and married into French families there. Here are my findings for Scotland: JOLLIE, Janet Kinnimont Christening Sex: Female Birth Date: 22 Dec 1855 Christening Date: 6 Jan 1855 Recorded in: London Road United Presbyterian, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Father: David JOLLIE Mother: Isabella ORRICK Source: FHL Number 1485046 Dates: 1853-1869 Note: FRCH3V160NO14P59 JOLLY, Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 12 Oct 1873 Recorded in: Free Church, Craig Parish, Angus, Scotland Father: David JOLLY Mother: Elizabeth MOIR Source: FHL Number 1482991 Dates: 1843-1877 Note: FRCH3V62NO1P159 JOLLIE, Robert Marriage Wife: Elspat PETTRIE Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1782 Recorded in: Stracathro, Angus, Scotland Source: FHL Number 102675 Dates: 1782-1785 Note: FRP15 Kay Emma wrote: >Thanks for posting this. I'm not sure what the original query was, but I >have an ancestor called William JOLLY, who was born c.1843 whose father was >James Jolly. He was supposed to have been born in Montrose in Angus, >Scotland, but his birth wasn't registered. If anyone researching William >JOLLYs of similar period comes across my ancestor, please don't hesitate to >get in touch. > >On another point, I am interested in gauging where JOLLYs originated from >and where they lived in clusters in the world. I have heard that the name >originates from France. There are still variations on the name in France >today [e.g. Joly]. I have come across clusters in Angus (19th century) up to >the present day), Lancashire (19th century, but less so now), and Cornwall >[not sure of the period]. I'd like to know of any other clusters that >listers have come across and more on the origins of the name, so that I can >try and establish some kind of pattern. > Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html

Thanks Bill, Yes, That is our Joseph. I have a copy of that somewhere in the depths of my paperwork. It is also on my to do list to actually read the book when I can get hold of a copy. Thanks for letting me know tho, much appreciated. Kay you wrote: >i noticed that you have a joseph jolly from moonta in your list . >in a site called CORNISH PEOPLE IN CORNISH BOOKS i came across his name with a date of 1868. >the book was called THE CORNISH IN AUSTRALIA and it was written by JIM FAULL who has put out several books about peoples and places from yesteryear . >the publisher was AUSTRALASIAN EDUCATION PRESS PTY LTD , 30 MT DANDENONG RD , CROYDEN 3136 , VICTORIA , and the number of the book is >ISBN 0 86787 200 4 . the number of the book on the site is 16 . Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html

--part1_dd.85587d5.26c9512b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am reposting a request for info re Phoebe Jolly. Are there any JOLLY researchers out there who have seen info about my Phoebe? My line is through her second marriage to Richard WEAVER BARNES of MD. Phoebe came to Ohio where she died following the death of her third husband. Her daughters has already moved to Ohio ahead of her. Thank you. Marjory PETTY Austen MAPPAusten@aol.com Marjory, She does not ring any bells with me at all I'm afraid. Have you posted to the list? JOLLY, Phoebe Christening Sex: Female Birth Date: 22 Apr 1885 Christening Date: 10 May 1885 Recorded in: Adlington, Lancashire, England Father: James JOLLY Mother: Anne Source: FHL Number 1526077 Dates: 1876-1897 BRATT, John Age: 21 years Marriage Wife: Phoebe JOLLEY Age: 22 years Marriage Date: 22 Sep 1889 Recorded in: Saint John, Hanley, Stafford, England Husband's Father: John BRATT Wife's Father: John JOLLEY Source: FHL Number 1470997 Dates: 1873-1898 BROOKS, Adam Age: 25 years Marriage Wife: Phoebe JOLLY Age: 24 years Marriage Date: 28 Jul 1867 Recorded in: Adlington, Lancashire, England Husband's Father: William BROOKS Wife's Father: William JOLLY Source: FHL Number 1526077 Dates: 1843-1900 This is all I could get on Phoebe. I have no US records. Maybe Someone else on the list has? --part1_dd.85587d5.26c9512b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <JOLLY-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:33:46 -0400 Received: from lists3.rootsweb.com (lists3.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.39]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:33:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists3.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e7EDX7825844; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:33:07 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:33:07 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kayhin@southwest.com.au Mon Aug 14 06:33:04 2000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000814213335.007ab590@mail.southwest.com.au> X-Sender: kayhin@mail.southwest.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:33:35 +0800 Old-To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com From: Kay Hinnrichsen <kayhin@southwest.com.au> Subject: Re: Vital Records - JOLLY In-Reply-To: <31.8d04448.26c9463e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <-F2AXD.A.nTG.SU_l5@lists3.rootsweb.com> To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/209 X-Loop: JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: JOLLY-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi Marjory, She does not ring any bells with me at all I'm afraid. Have you posted to the list? JOLLY, Phoebe Christening Sex: Female Birth Date: 22 Apr 1885 Christening Date: 10 May 1885 Recorded in: Adling

hi kay i noticed that you have a joseph jolly from moonta in your list . in a site called CORNISH PEOPLE IN CORNISH BOOKS i came across his name with a date of 1868. the book was called THE CORNISH IN AUSTRALIA and it was written by JIM FAULL who has put out several books about peoples and places from yesteryear . the publisher was AUSTRALASIAN EDUCATION PRESS PTY LTD , 30 MT DANDENONG RD , CROYDEN 3136 , VICTORIA , and the number of the book is ISBN 0 86787 200 4 . the number of the book on the site is 16 . REGARDS BILL

Kay, Do you have anything on Phoebe JOLLY, b. ca. 1775 either in US or England? I cannot locate her parentage. She was married three times: MARTIN, Richard WEAVOR BARNES (mine), and Ezekiel LEWIS. She is a brick wall to me! Marjory A. Austen

Thanks for posting this. I'm not sure what the original query was, but I have an ancestor called William JOLLY, who was born c.1843 whose father was James Jolly. He was supposed to have been born in Montrose in Angus, Scotland, but his birth wasn't registered. If anyone researching William JOLLYs of similar period comes across my ancestor, please don't hesitate to get in touch. On another point, I am interested in gauging where JOLLYs originated from and where they lived in clusters in the world. I have heard that the name originates from France. There are still variations on the name in France today [e.g. Joly]. I have come across clusters in Angus (19th century) up to the present day), Lancashire (19th century, but less so now), and Cornwall [not sure of the period]. I'd like to know of any other clusters that listers have come across and more on the origins of the name, so that I can try and establish some kind of pattern. Best wishes, Emma. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Hinnrichsen <kayhin@southwest.com.au> To: <JOLLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:37 PM Subject: Vital Records - JOLLY > Quinton, > > I am posting these to the list in case they are of any use to others as > well. These are from the Vital Records Index British Isles CDs. > > JOLLEY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Christening Date: 24 Mar 1837 Recorded in: Saint Paul, Warrington, > Lancashire, England > Father: Benjamin JOLLEY > Mother: Elizabeth > Source: FHL Number 1469047 Dates: 1831-1856 > JOLLY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Birthplace: Eye > Christening Date: 20 Nov 1842 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > Suffolk County, England > Father: Henry JOLLY > Mother: Mary > Source: FHL Number 918544 Dates: 1842-1842 > JOLLY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Christening Date: 1 Sep 1844 Recorded in: St. Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, > England > Father: James JOLLY > Mother: Jane > Source: FHL Number 1342498 Dates: 1841-1856 > JOLLY, William Stout Christening > Sex: Male > Christening Date: 7 Apr 1844 Recorded in: Warrington, Lancashire, England > Father: Benjamin JOLLY > Mother: Catharine > Source: FHL Number 1468989 Dates: 1835-1848 > JOLLY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Birthplace: Framlingham > Christening Date: 4 Aug 1844 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > Suffolk County, England > Father: John JOLLY > Mother: Sophia > Source: FHL Number 918658 Dates: 1844-1844 > JOLLY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Birthplace: Wortham > Christening Date: 15 Sep 1844 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > Suffolk County, England > Father: James JOLLY > Mother: Harriett > Source: FHL Number 918660 Dates: 1844-1845 > JOLLY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Birthplace: Hopton > Christening Date: 5 Oct 1845 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > Suffolk County, England > Father: John JOLLY > Mother: Maria > Source: FHL Number 918660 Dates: 1844-1845 > JOLLY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Christening Date: 18 Jan 1846 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > Suffolk County, England > Father: William JOLLY > Mother: Rachel > Source: FHL Number 918662 Dates: 1846-1846 > JOLLEY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Christening Date: 12 Apr 1846 Recorded in: Coppull, Lancashire, England > Father: Josiah JOLLEY > Mother: Anne > Source: FHL Number 1068752 Dates: 1812-1865 > JOLLY, William Christening > Sex: Male > Birthplace: Mendlesham > Christening Date: 24 Jan 1847 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for > Suffolk County, England > Father: John JOLLY > Mother: Sarah > Source: FHL Number 918663 Dates: 1847-1847 > > > > > Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia > > Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for > WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ > Research Names: > http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html >

Quinton, I am posting these to the list in case they are of any use to others as well. These are from the Vital Records Index British Isles CDs. JOLLEY, William Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 24 Mar 1837 Recorded in: Saint Paul, Warrington, Lancashire, England Father: Benjamin JOLLEY Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Number 1469047 Dates: 1831-1856 JOLLY, William Christening Sex: Male Birthplace: Eye Christening Date: 20 Nov 1842 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for Suffolk County, England Father: Henry JOLLY Mother: Mary Source: FHL Number 918544 Dates: 1842-1842 JOLLY, William Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 1 Sep 1844 Recorded in: St. Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Father: James JOLLY Mother: Jane Source: FHL Number 1342498 Dates: 1841-1856 JOLLY, William Stout Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 7 Apr 1844 Recorded in: Warrington, Lancashire, England Father: Benjamin JOLLY Mother: Catharine Source: FHL Number 1468989 Dates: 1835-1848 JOLLY, William Christening Sex: Male Birthplace: Framlingham Christening Date: 4 Aug 1844 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for Suffolk County, England Father: John JOLLY Mother: Sophia Source: FHL Number 918658 Dates: 1844-1844 JOLLY, William Christening Sex: Male Birthplace: Wortham Christening Date: 15 Sep 1844 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for Suffolk County, England Father: James JOLLY Mother: Harriett Source: FHL Number 918660 Dates: 1844-1845 JOLLY, William Christening Sex: Male Birthplace: Hopton Christening Date: 5 Oct 1845 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for Suffolk County, England Father: John JOLLY Mother: Maria Source: FHL Number 918660 Dates: 1844-1845 JOLLY, William Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 18 Jan 1846 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for Suffolk County, England Father: William JOLLY Mother: Rachel Source: FHL Number 918662 Dates: 1846-1846 JOLLEY, William Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 12 Apr 1846 Recorded in: Coppull, Lancashire, England Father: Josiah JOLLEY Mother: Anne Source: FHL Number 1068752 Dates: 1812-1865 JOLLY, William Christening Sex: Male Birthplace: Mendlesham Christening Date: 24 Jan 1847 Recorded in: Bishop's Transcript (BTs) for Suffolk County, England Father: John JOLLY Mother: Sarah Source: FHL Number 918663 Dates: 1847-1847 Kay Hinnrichsen Mandurah, Western Australia Listowner Rootsweb *JOLLY *BOSANKO *TONKIN Lists - also searching for WILSON, ECCLESTONE, HINRICHSEN and more http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/hin02.html

I'll try Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <JOLLY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <JOLLY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: JOLLY-D Digest V00 #71