I read them all, as well. Keep thinking that my old Sen. James Johnston, Jr., Esq. of Twiggs Co., GA, must have some other descendants than my family! He had ten children! Happy Holidays, and thanks a whole bunch of Christmas greens. Beverly Shuler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Shuler" <bshuler@comcast.net> To: <JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON] Benjamin H. Johnston > Genealogists teach that the best possible evidence is that which was written > at the time of the event, by an eyewitness, especially for the purpose of > recording that event. So, we go from there. > Beverly Shuler > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HL2819@aol.com> > To: <JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON] Benjamin H. Johnston > > > > Doc - Very well said in your summation. Your remarks previous were > logicial > > and helpful, and very much in the spirit of the site. You should be > thanked. > > ....... No, I haven't been involved in these discussions or quest. > Harry > > Johnston > > > > > > ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== > > Interactive Search for this and all RootsWeb lists go to: > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== > Please send messages you would like to post to the JOHNSTON mailing list to: > JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com >

I have a Thomas Johnston, of Fife, Scotland married to Caroline Smith, then Janet Weis, then Jannetta McRea Robb. Jannetta and Thomas are buried in the Old Bernice Cemetery of Sullivan County, Pennsylvania and I have a photo of the gravestone. I have no idea where the first two wives died or are buried. I have some information back two earlier Thomas Johnstons and two younger. Looking for any information or connections to this family would be very interesting. Bob Parmerter Largo, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHNSTON-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: JOHNSTON-D@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:00 PM Subject: JOHNSTON-D Digest V04 #82

In a message dated 12/6/2004 12:54:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, CFlanders@hot.rr.com writes: I will remind those of you that have not submitted your materials for inclusion in the DAR or SAR, you will asked to prove by written evidence, of which, public record is the best, to prove your links to your antecedents. Doc, I can verify the above statement. As a member of NSSAR with 5 proven revolutionary ancestors I can state that genealogy without documentation is speculation. I have another ancestor for whom I am missing one link to one generation to prove my descent. It's frustrating, but one day I'll find it. All we're all really trying to do is put some flesh on the bones. Regards, Mike Johnston Oswego IL

Thank you for your kind remarks, both you Harry and Beverly Shuler. I was asked to help and I always am eager to help anyone searching for ANY of their ancestors. But as all of us that have been doing this for any amount of time, details help, especially when and where they were living last. Although I got a lot of rebuttal about written documents NOT being the best evidence, I will remind those of you that have not submitted your materials for inclusion in the DAR or SAR, you will asked to prove by written evidence, of which, public record is the best, to prove your links to your antecedents. I feel that enough has been said on this subject and I will therefore move on to something else. Respectfully yours, doc

I have a brick wall in my Johnston line. I have a Thomas Johnston born in Dumfries Scotland. He was married to Mary Atchinson. They had two children born in Scotland Henry Bell Or Belgium Johnston and his sister Isabell. Henry is my husband greatgrand father. He was married to Nancy Green.All of there children were born in Kansas and there are three generation buried in the cementry in Geary Co. Kansas. I have some information that there were four other children born in the US one in New York and three in Wisconsin but have no proff and do not know where Thomas and Mary died or are buried. Janet Johnston

Genealogists teach that the best possible evidence is that which was written at the time of the event, by an eyewitness, especially for the purpose of recording that event. So, we go from there. Beverly Shuler ----- Original Message ----- From: <HL2819@aol.com> To: <JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON] Benjamin H. Johnston > Doc - Very well said in your summation. Your remarks previous were logicial > and helpful, and very much in the spirit of the site. You should be thanked. > ....... No, I haven't been involved in these discussions or quest. Harry > Johnston > > > ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== > Interactive Search for this and all RootsWeb lists go to: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Reading this list is very frustrating: Please change the subject line when the subject changes. Please do not copy all the previous messages.

I'm not sure you can even trust the death certificate. My grandfathers said his father was born in PA. I know for a fact that he was born in IL. Looking for Alexander Finley Johnston born 6/8/1845 PA. Or his father Andrew Johnston born abt.1789 Peach Bottom, NJ. Anything will be fine. Earl Rice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Flanders" <CFlanders@hot.rr.com> To: <JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON] Benjamin H. Johnston > Of course things can be erroneously submitted. However, the written > primary record of the event is more trustworthy than a headstone or > somebody said. Folks, I am not interested in a contest of who is wrong or > right. I was offering some help for someone who was asking. If you don't > want my help just say so. When someone asks for help on a generalized > question that doesn't even tell what county or township is, then someone > has to ask other questions to be able to provide that help. Sorry you are > having a tough time with your ancestor. I have been there. doc > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beth Perry Johnston" <bpjohnston@charter.net> > To: <JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON] Benjamin H. Johnston > > >> At 12:01 AM 12/4/2004, Charles Flanders wrote: >>>Dear Pam, always trust the death certificate first. Someone close to the >>>decedent gave the information to the coroner for the death certificate or >>>the family doctor filled out the death certificate. >> >> [snip] >> >> I would say trust to a certain degree but also verify. My husband's >> grandmother, Chloe Zay (Clark) Johnston, was driving with her husband, >> Homer Virgil Johnston, quite a ways from home when they were involved in >> an auto accident. She was killed, and Homer gave the information for the >> death certificate. Most of the information was wrong because he was so >> terribly upset. >> >> Beth Johnston >> >> >> >> >> ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== >> Please send messages you would like to post to the JOHNSTON mailing list >> to: >> JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > > ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== > Messages posted to the Johnston Message board at RootsWeb are > no longer automatically sent to this list. > >

In a message dated 12/5/04 2:08:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, rogerhj@grandecom.net writes: > The only name I recognize was among their children - > Francis Marion. He married his second wife in Nebraska, but don't know > where he married his first wife. > I probably have that information but just haven't transfered it to the genealogical program. Do you have any relationship to FM or just have him in your database? Thanks for the reply. What is 2nd wife's name? Kristen

Hi Roger, I'll add my Johnston brick wall. I could foresee a relationship between yours and mine, I just can't make it yet. Jacob Johnston, b 1809, PA married to Elizabeth Blankenbaker, b 1823, KY they died in Marshall County, IN, and I believe had the following children there too. John Wesley Frances Marion Rebecca Sylvester Jacob Milo Sarah Ellen Lincoln Good luck! Kristen

Doc - Very well said in your summation. Your remarks previous were logicial and helpful, and very much in the spirit of the site. You should be thanked. ....... No, I haven't been involved in these discussions or quest. Harry Johnston

hmmm, possible relationship I suppose. Have never seen a Jacob nor the last name of Blankenbaker. I don't have any records that show any of them in PA, but hey, who knows. The only name I recognize was among their children - Francis Marion. He married his second wife in Nebraska, but don't know where he married his first wife. If you find a tie, please let me know. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: <NFOsnowkats@aol.com> To: <JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON] Johnston Brick Walls > Hi Roger, > > I'll add my Johnston brick wall. I could foresee a relationship between > yours and mine, I just can't make it yet. > > Jacob Johnston, b 1809, PA > married to > Elizabeth Blankenbaker, b 1823, KY > > they died in Marshall County, IN, and I believe had the following children > there too. > > > John Wesley > Frances Marion > Rebecca > Sylvester > Jacob Milo > Sarah Ellen > Lincoln > > Good luck! > Kristen > > > ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== > Please send messages you would like to post to the JOHNSTON mailing list to: > JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com > > >

Can you tie these two families together? Am looking for any information on these names association with two different JOHNSTON families in Kentucky; These surnames are associated with James JOHNSTON - KEITH, CRAIG, DALRYMPLE, SNYDER, SAUNDERS, DINSMORE and HOPKINS James Johnston, b 1749 in Dumfries, Scotland, died 1829 in Fleming Co., Ky. Married Margaret KEITH abt 1781, probably in Virginia. Margarets birth, death dates are unkown as are locations. They had the following children: William Bryant Johnston, b 1786 in Va, md Asenath Craig, 12-23-1816 in Mason Co., Ky. (a doctor) Curdrilla Johnston, md Moses Dalrymple 3-10-1819 in Fleming Co., Ky. Elizabeth Johnston, md Andrew Snyder 8-18-1810 in Fleming Co., Ky. Mary Johnston, md Cyrus Saunders 12-20-1808/09 in Fleming Co., Ky. Peggy Johnston, md Matthew Dinsmore 12-12-1801 in Fleming Co., Ky. Samuel Johnston, md Mary Hopkins 8-22/25-1814 in Fleming Co., Ky. Orsanus Johnston (no other info) James Johnston (no other info) These surnames are associated with James Harvey JOHNSTON - LINDSEY, CANFIELD, CRAWFORD, EASTMAN, BRADFORD, SILVER, and FITHEN. James Harvey Johnston, b 10-27-1820 in Kentucky, md Mary Melissa Lindsey 10-23-1844 in Brown Co., Oh. Mary b 4-9-1827 in Kentucky. James Harvey d 12-5-1893 in Arcadia, Valley Co., Nebraska. Mary d 11-2-1901 in Arcadia, Valley Co., Ky. Mary is the daughter of Hezikiah Lindsey and Nancy Wells. They had the following children: William Thomas Corwin Johnston, b 8-30-1845 in Oh, md Phoebe Ann Canfield 5-7-1866. Theodore Orsamus Giddings Johnston, b 5-18-1849 in Ky, d 5-15-1865 in Chatanooga, Tn Oscar Jerome Johnston, b 5-18-1849, d 1-24-1850 Benjamin Oliver Johnston, b 10-26-1850, d 11-14-1850 Sarah Elizabeth Johnston, b 10-10-1851, d 12-19-1855 John Hetric Johnston, b 1-25-1854, d 11-21-1857 Francis Marion Johnston, b 6-15-1856 in Iowa, md 1)Mary Alice Crawford, 2) Caroline Belle Eastman 12-29-1901 in Broken Bow, Custer Co., Nebraska Mary Margaret Johnston, b 10-4-1858 in Iowa, md James Bradford Augusta Ophelia Johnston, b 12-20-1860 in Iowa, md Oscar Silver in 1883 * Ulysses Grant Johnston, b 4-21-1863 in Farmington, Minnesota, md Nancy Ellenor Fithen 4-5-1888 in Sherman Co., Nebraska (my GGrandfather) Leaura Bell Johnston, b 1-21-1866, d 12-18-1867 Charles Nelson Johnston, b 3-12-1868, d 3-9- 1879 Nancy Lulia Johnston, b 1870 in Missouri Stella Winifred Johnston, b 8-10-1874 in Missouri, d 12-12-1885 in Nebraska The James Harvey Johnston listed is my GGGrandfather. I am looking for any information as to who his parents may be, and any tie(s) to the James Johnston family listed above. Thanks, Roger H. Johnston Midland, Tx rogerhj@grandecom.net

Thanks Pat!

Of course things can be erroneously submitted. However, the written primary record of the event is more trustworthy than a headstone or somebody said. Folks, I am not interested in a contest of who is wrong or right. I was offering some help for someone who was asking. If you don't want my help just say so. When someone asks for help on a generalized question that doesn't even tell what county or township is, then someone has to ask other questions to be able to provide that help. Sorry you are having a tough time with your ancestor. I have been there. doc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Perry Johnston" <bpjohnston@charter.net> To: <JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON] Benjamin H. Johnston > At 12:01 AM 12/4/2004, Charles Flanders wrote: >>Dear Pam, always trust the death certificate first. Someone close to the >>decedent gave the information to the coroner for the death certificate or >>the family doctor filled out the death certificate. > > [snip] > > I would say trust to a certain degree but also verify. My husband's > grandmother, Chloe Zay (Clark) Johnston, was driving with her husband, > Homer Virgil Johnston, quite a ways from home when they were involved in > an auto accident. She was killed, and Homer gave the information for the > death certificate. Most of the information was wrong because he was so > terribly upset. > > Beth Johnston > > > > > ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== > Please send messages you would like to post to the JOHNSTON mailing list > to: > JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com > >

> Thanks, but I don't think this is my Andrew. I believe his wife's name > was Elizabeth Kilby b abt. 1867. > Does Ancestry show anything with her name? Nothing, Pam, sorry. Susan Marston Edina, MN

Loretta- The Past Portal website is at :http://www.pastportal.com/. Pat Corona ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lynneage@aol.com> To: <JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:09 AM Subject: [JOHNSTON] Free Johnston Website > Could the person who sent the link or URL please resend it? Thanks so much. > Loretta in PA > > > ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== > Looking for information on your Johnstons? > Post a message to this list by sending it to: > JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com > >

Could the person who sent the link or URL please resend it? Thanks so much. Loretta in PA

Sandy, Thanks...I did try that. They don't have my Andrew listed as a child. :-( Pam -----Original Message----- From: Sabeckum@aol.com [mailto:Sabeckum@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 6:20 PM To: JOHNSTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [JOHNSTON] Benjamin H. Johnston Pam, Have you checked the Salt Lake City The Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints--The FamilySearch Internet Service? There is a Benjamin H. Johnston listed there from that county. It lists Benjamin and John. It also gives their wives names. I don't remember whether I found it in 1870 or 1880. I didn't try for Andrew though. This might be of some help. Just try www.familysearch.org. Sandy ==== JOHNSTON Mailing List ==== Don't forget to check alternative spellings like Johnson and Johnstone.

I, too, am related to General Joe through his great uncle Robert who was born in the early-middle 1700's, and lived (may have been born there, too) in Pettigo, Tyrone County, Northern Ireland. My particular branch (Robert, wife - Jenny Graham, son Francis and wife - Mary Margaret Clark) arrrived in the Port of New York on 23 Nov 1811 via the brig West Point from Londonderry. They probably lived first in Pennsylvania and then moved to the vicinity of Wayne County, Ohio, and later to Allen County, Indiana, then back to Morrow County, Ohio. Robert was a brother to Peter Johnston, Sr., grandfather to General Joseph Eggleston Johnston, son of Peter, Jr. and Martha Wood Johnston. General Joe's family lived near Farmville, Prince Edward County, Virginia. If you have more information on this Johnston line, I would love to share with you, because I am pretty much at a dead end. Thank you. Jeanne Knowlton Eldredge