I find it helpful to use the relationship calculator in my PAF program, I am sure the other programs would have a similar calculator. If you are working in a PAF (personal ancestors file) genealogy program: you can go to tools, then preferences, then file, and then set your relationship calculator for any ancestor you want and it will calculate from that individual to whichever ancestor you are working on and it will show you at the bottom of the computer screen. I find changing the calculator an easy way to do relationships. Teresa _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

You are more then welcome Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Bradshaw<mailto:juder2@verizon.net> To: johnson@rootsweb.com<mailto:johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] (no subject) I should have read this entry first. I remember that you said they had to be transposed. I will do that.... wish I could print them out but genealogy is not easy right? Thanks fo the new leads. Judy -----Original Message----- From: johnson-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:johnson-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:johnson-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Tony Johnson Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:09 PM To: johnson@rootsweb.com<mailto:johnson@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] (no subject) Judy I do not have ancestory.dot come and I can checke my files to see what Johnson or Johnston Surnames are associated with New Jersey. But again I only placed int Word Document those with Virginia or NC connections. I did not type out those With New Jersey connections to other States. I will be glad to send you the whole file so you can look for New Jersey Johnson-Jonson-Johnston or Johnstone. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Bradshaw<mailto:juder2@verizon.net<mailto:juder2@verizon.net>> To: johnson@rootsweb.com<mailto:johnson@rootsweb.com<mailto:johnson@rootsweb.com<mailto:johnson@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] (no subject) Hello Tony: I read all your entries with interest. I found one entry about New Jersey born patriot but when I went on the Revolutionary war records for Ancestry.com, that part is down and now working. It did say there were four applications from New Jersey. Does this jiv with your records. Judy in California searching for New Jersey Johnson in Sussex and Warren Counties. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I should have read this entry first. I remember that you said they had to be transposed. I will do that.... wish I could print them out but genealogy is not easy right? Thanks fo the new leads. Judy -----Original Message----- From: johnson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:johnson-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Tony Johnson Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:09 PM To: johnson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] (no subject) Judy I do not have ancestory.dot come and I can checke my files to see what Johnson or Johnston Surnames are associated with New Jersey. But again I only placed int Word Document those with Virginia or NC connections. I did not type out those With New Jersey connections to other States. I will be glad to send you the whole file so you can look for New Jersey Johnson-Jonson-Johnston or Johnstone. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Bradshaw<mailto:juder2@verizon.net> To: johnson@rootsweb.com<mailto:johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] (no subject) Hello Tony: I read all your entries with interest. I found one entry about New Jersey born patriot but when I went on the Revolutionary war records for Ancestry.com, that part is down and now working. It did say there were four applications from New Jersey. Does this jiv with your records. Judy in California searching for New Jersey Johnson in Sussex and Warren Counties. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy I do not have ancestory.dot come and I can checke my files to see what Johnson or Johnston Surnames are associated with New Jersey. But again I only placed int Word Document those with Virginia or NC connections. I did not type out those With New Jersey connections to other States. I will be glad to send you the whole file so you can look for New Jersey Johnson-Jonson-Johnston or Johnstone. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Bradshaw<mailto:juder2@verizon.net> To: johnson@rootsweb.com<mailto:johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] (no subject) Hello Tony: I read all your entries with interest. I found one entry about New Jersey born patriot but when I went on the Revolutionary war records for Ancestry.com, that part is down and now working. It did say there were four applications from New Jersey. Does this jiv with your records. Judy in California searching for New Jersey Johnson in Sussex and Warren Counties. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For anyone who is interested in the DNA information, You can check it out at the following link. _https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=X15311&special=True_ (https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=X15311&special=True) If you have a problem with the link, visit Family tree DNA and look for the Johnson, Johnston and Johnstone project (listed under projects) or you can just search for "Johnson DNA Project" through your internet browser. There are links at Family Tree DNA that answer most of your questions and people that you can contact that can answer any question. I do not work for Family Tree DNA, however, I have paid for several of my relatives with other surnames to be tested. It sure helps to narrow down the search, especially with a common last name like Johnson. Good luck, Linda ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

So what do they have to do--send in a hair or something and how much does it cost? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > Okay, you'll have to find a male cousin from your mother's Johnson family, > who actually carries the name, Johnson. That's the way I understand it. > I > wish somebody on the list would either confirm what I'm saying is true or > correct me. In my particular case, I have one brother left who could do > the > testing for the name, Johnson (my maiden name was Johnson, of course), but > I > haven't been able to convince him to do it yet. He thinks it's going to > be > way too expensive and he doesn't understand how it could help me in my > genealogy research. He does have a son who could also do the testing, in > the event that he decides definitely not to do it. > > While I'm writing, I might as well say who and what I'm looking for, > right? > I am looking for information about my 3rd great grandfather, Duncan > Johnson > (it very well could have been spelled Johnston at some point). I believe > he > was probably born anywhere from 1770 to 1775, but I don't know where. > Perhaps from one of the Carolinas or Virginia. I only know that in 1800, > he > was Tennessee, as his son - my 2nd great grandfather, Randolph Johnson, > was > born there at that time. BUT WHERE IN TENNESSEE? I have no idea who > Duncan's parents were or his siblings. I do know that he was in that part > of Blount Co. that must have later become part of Jefferson Co., Alabama, > by > 1816, as he is on a Tax List (actually called Monroe Co. because I > understand that Monroe Co. covered most of the present-day counties at > that > time). On the Blount Co. GenWeb page, he is listed as being a Justice of > the Peace in 1818/19. Another surname closely connected to him, I > believe, > is the surname, Wood, but I won't go into that. In 1820, he apparently > owned land, and I have the township, range, etc. for that. He also made a > will in 1823, which was witnessed by my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Ashby. > Elizabeth Ashby and Randolph Johnson married a few months later in 1823. > That's about the extent of what I know about my Duncan Johnson - oh, and I > believe his wife's name was Ann or Anna, and her maiden name MIGHT have > been > Cunningham, since one of their sons was named George Cunningham Johnson. > So, there it is. If anybody has any information, I sure would > appreciate - > or suggestions on how to find out where they were in Tennessee. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> > To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:58 PM > Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > > >> That's what someone else said :( >> >> Maybe I'll find a cousin somewhere off the male line >> >> Alli :) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> >> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question >> >> >>> Your father's dad would have had to be the Johnson - not his mother. It >>> carries through the males. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I know you're not asking just me - 'cause I sure am not an authority on this subject, but I believe you order the DNA Kit, and I BELIEVE it consists of a swab, that you swab the inside of your mouth with. Am I right, people? Help me out on this. The cost - I'm not sure about that either. I think it depends how far you want to go with it - how many markers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kamer" <gaildear@bardstowncable.net> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > So what do they have to do--send in a hair or something and how much does > it > cost? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> > To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > > >> Okay, you'll have to find a male cousin from your mother's Johnson >> family, >> who actually carries the name, Johnson. That's the way I understand it. >> I >> wish somebody on the list would either confirm what I'm saying is true or >> correct me. In my particular case, I have one brother left who could do >> the >> testing for the name, Johnson (my maiden name was Johnson, of course), >> but >> I >> haven't been able to convince him to do it yet. He thinks it's going to >> be >> way too expensive and he doesn't understand how it could help me in my >> genealogy research. He does have a son who could also do the testing, in >> the event that he decides definitely not to do it. >> >> While I'm writing, I might as well say who and what I'm looking for, >> right? >> I am looking for information about my 3rd great grandfather, Duncan >> Johnson >> (it very well could have been spelled Johnston at some point). I believe >> he >> was probably born anywhere from 1770 to 1775, but I don't know where. >> Perhaps from one of the Carolinas or Virginia. I only know that in 1800, >> he >> was Tennessee, as his son - my 2nd great grandfather, Randolph Johnson, >> was >> born there at that time. BUT WHERE IN TENNESSEE? I have no idea who >> Duncan's parents were or his siblings. I do know that he was in that >> part >> of Blount Co. that must have later become part of Jefferson Co., Alabama, >> by >> 1816, as he is on a Tax List (actually called Monroe Co. because I >> understand that Monroe Co. covered most of the present-day counties at >> that >> time). On the Blount Co. GenWeb page, he is listed as being a Justice of >> the Peace in 1818/19. Another surname closely connected to him, I >> believe, >> is the surname, Wood, but I won't go into that. In 1820, he apparently >> owned land, and I have the township, range, etc. for that. He also made >> a >> will in 1823, which was witnessed by my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Ashby. >> Elizabeth Ashby and Randolph Johnson married a few months later in 1823. >> That's about the extent of what I know about my Duncan Johnson - oh, and >> I >> believe his wife's name was Ann or Anna, and her maiden name MIGHT have >> been >> Cunningham, since one of their sons was named George Cunningham Johnson. >> So, there it is. If anybody has any information, I sure would >> appreciate - >> or suggestions on how to find out where they were in Tennessee. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> >> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question >> >> >>> That's what someone else said :( >>> >>> Maybe I'll find a cousin somewhere off the male line >>> >>> Alli :) >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> >>> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question >>> >>> >>>> Your father's dad would have had to be the Johnson - not his mother. >>>> It >>>> carries through the males. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The DNA test is a simple cheek swab that brushes the inside cheek of the mouth. The DNA collected from this swab is analyzed and the numbers obtained from this analysis are called the "markers". These DNA "markers" are passed down along the Y chromosome. All women carry an XX chromosome, all men carry an XY chromosome. The Y chromosome can only be passed down by the father to his son, not to his daughter. Women do not carry the Y chromosome and so cannot be tested for it. A man can only pass the Y chromosome down to his son. The son then passes this Y chromosome down to his son. This DNA continues to be passed to successive generations of sons who carry the same surname as their father. Since most surnames come from our fathers, then a male with the same surname is carrying the Y-DNA associated with that particular surname. Surnames came into use in order to differentiate people with the same given name. These surnames usually related to a particular person by identifying John the bricklayer (John Mason) as someone different that John the blacksmith (John Smith) and also different than John who lived by the river crossing (John Ford) or the John who was the son of John (John Johnson). John Mason would pass his Y-DNA to his sons (who are also surnamed Mason) and now, with our advanced technologies, we can look at that unchanged (with sometimes a few mutations) Y-DNA and see that he was not related to John Smith, John Ford and John Johnson, nor any of them to each other. We can also tell that John Johnson from Bristol, England is not the same as the John Johnson from Wales or the Jon Jonsson from Denmark. Women can get their brothers or fathers or male uncles or cousins (with the same surname) to test their Y-DNA for that particular surname. If you know there was a case of adoption or a male carrying the surname of his mother in your Johnson line, then you cannot test the DNA for the Johnson markers. They must be tested under the surname of their biological father. Lynda SoRelle Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:10:58 -0500 From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000b01c80c10$8c468120$f47e2218@yourxhtr8hvc4p> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Okay, you'll have to find a male cousin from your mother's Johnson family, who actually carries the name, Johnson. That's the way I understand it. I wish somebody on the list would either confirm what I'm saying is true or correct me. In my particular case, I have one brother left who could do the testing for the name, Johnson (my maiden name was Johnson, of course), but I haven't been able to convince him to do it yet. He thinks it's going to be way too expensive and he doesn't understand how it could help me in my genealogy research. He does have a son who could also do the testing, in the event that he decides definitely not to do it.

My husband and an aunt did both a dna and Michrondial testing for his family lime and the process was the same for both tests. A kit comes with everything you need, instructions, vials, swabs: then you swab inside your mouth two or three different times at different intervals, storing them in the vials. Send completed package in and weeks later you get the results. It is interesting as his dna came from the mediterrian area and most of his dna matches are coming in with Italian and Spanish matches. I kid him those roman soldiers getting around as I have traced is linage until the early 1700's and its only in England. hummmmmmm The more testings we get the better the science will become. >From www.familytreedna.com: WHAT IS MY ANCESTRY? ARE WE RELATED? Family Tree DNA has the latest technology for your genealogy research. Family Tree DNA is the pioneer and the world's largest DNA company in the new field of genetic genealogy. If you are looking for that long lost relative, or if you feel that some day, someone may use a DNA repository to look for long lost relatives, you should consider doing this simple DNA test. Your ancestors left clues in your DNA that can determine your deep ancestral origins as well as help you find those long lost relatives. By comparing your results to our databases - the largest of their kind in the world - we could give you clues about your ancestry. Unlock your ancestral origins with DNA testing. Y-DNA: By testing the Y-DNA, males can determine the origin of their paternal line. Note that the Y-DNA strictly checks the paternal line, with no influence of any females along that line. Females do not receive the Y-DNA, and therefore females cannot be tested for the paternal line. If you are a female and would like to know about your paternal line, you would need to have a brother or a male relative from that line to be tested. mtDNA: By testing the mtDNA, males and females can determine the origin of their maternal line. Note that the mtDNA strictly checks the maternal line, with no influence of any males along that line. Both males and females receive the mtDNA from the mother. Y-DNA UNIVERSAL MALE TEST The Paternal DNA, passed from father to son, tests the Y-chromosome, which is only found in males and is useful in verifying common ancestry. A single test allows you to verify: - if 2 males are possibly related - your suggested geographic origin - your paternal deep ancestral ethnic origin Y-DNA12: 12 Marker Test more info order now $149 Y-DNA37: 37 Markers Test more info order now $259 After our kits was received, we received this message: From now on you can follow the progress of your test by logging in at our home page with your kit #xxxxxx and password xxxxxx We recommend recording your kit number and password in a safe place, or keeping this email. The next step is the processing of your sample at our lab. When the lab has completed the processing, you will be notified immediately by email. Our tests meet the highest standard for precision and reliability which requires individual verification by very skilled professionals. Therefore, typical times between the time when the kit goes to the lab for processing and the availability of results is: 12 Marker Y-DNA - 4 weeks 25 Marker Y-DNA - 6 weeks 37 Marker Y-DNA - 6 weeks 67 Marker Y-DNA - 6 weeks 12 to 25 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 4 Weeks 12 to 37 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 4 Weeks 25 to 37 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 4 Weeks 12 to 67 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 6 Weeks 25 to 67 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 5 Weeks 37 to 67 Marker Y-DNA Upgrade - 5 Weeks mtDNA Tests - 5 Weeks (kits go to the lab in batches every week) These times are for tests that have a successful outcome from the first run at the lab. Approximately 85% of the first runs are successful. The tests are rerun on the other 15% until a good result is obtained. Unfortunately, each rerun adds two weeks to the process. We understand that the delay is frustrating to participants. When a delay occurs, your sample is being rerun as many times as it takes to achieve a successful result. Hope this helps and get your tests may be the best money invested in your genealogy....... Judy in California

Hello Tony: I read all your entries with interest. I found one entry about New Jersey born patriot but when I went on the Revolutionary war records for Ancestry.com, that part is down and now working. It did say there were four applications from New Jersey. Does this jiv with your records. Judy in California searching for New Jersey Johnson in Sussex and Warren Counties.

Actually the Johnson line is on my Dad's side of the family. His mother is a Johnson or was a Johnson, she died in 83 I have talked to a couple of Johnson cousin's whose dad was a Johnson, but he's dad or like me their mom was the Johnson. I don't know of any of the Male Johnson's that their dad's also were Johnson's. So until I can find a Male Johnson descended from a Male Johnson I'm stuck Alli ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > Okay, you'll have to find a male cousin from your mother's Johnson family, > who actually carries the name, Johnson. That's the way I understand it. > I > wish somebody on the list would either confirm what I'm saying is true or > correct me. In my particular case, I have one brother left who could do > the > testing for the name, Johnson (my maiden name was Johnson, of course), but > I > haven't been able to convince him to do it yet. He thinks it's going to > be > way too expensive and he doesn't understand how it could help me in my > genealogy research. He does have a son who could also do the testing, in > the event that he decides definitely not to do it.

Thanks for the suggestion, JoAnne. I'll see what I can do. He certainly has more money than I'll ever have. I'm afraid, like you, I am the one who is more into genealogy. My brother would just like for me to give him a quick outline of who's who, but it's not that simple, and for myself, I want to know more about my ancestors - not just names and dates. He and his son were going on a week-long hunting and fishing trip over into Arkansas, and I think he might have discussed it with his son, so we'll see what he has to say when he comes back. He lives in Mississippi, which is where I was born and raised, and which is where my Johnson's ended up - first in Pontotoc Co., and then down to Neshoba Co. I should have also mentioned the names of Duncan Johnson's other children - that I know of: Rudolphus or Rodolphus E. Johnson, who married Rebecca Lee, and I think he was born about 1804 or 1806, and they had three children: William R. Johnson, Sarah Ann Johnson, and Jerusha Johnson, in Smith and Bosque Cos., Texas. He was a stock raiser. George Cunningham Johnson, born 1807 in TN, who married Mary McLaughlin, born 1815 He was a teacher and a Baptist preacher, and ended up in Pontotoc Co., MS Children were: Mary J., b. about 1840 in AL, Sarah E., b. about 1841, in MS, George A. P., born 1843, in MS, Martha S., born 1848, MS, and Harriet C. Johnson, born 1853, MS. I believe George A. P. Johnson ended up somewhere in Texas, like Galveston. Mary Elizabeth Johnson, born 1809, in TN, married Richard Harrison Waldrop. She died in Lee Co., MS after 1880 (according to a descendant I correspond with) One child was Marriah Clementine "Clemmie" Waldrop who married James L. Watson, who ended up in TX and then OK. Now, there was a John Johnson, who lived close to Duncan in Jefferson Co., AL and he died the same year as Duncan. I don't know if he was a brother or a son. There were probably other children that I don't know about. Sue (Johnson) Howard (I go by my middle name, Sue, rather than Carolyn - just to confuse everybody!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoAnne Martin" <giovanna@centurytel.net> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > Carolyn, Why don't you suggest to other family members who would benefit > from the DNA ancestor results that you all get together and help pay for > the > testing. > I needed the MtDNA that a cousin had to see if a brick wall was Native > American or the European lines I had been searching with no results. My > cousin was excited to do this but I went ahead and paid for it, > because I'm more into genealogy at this time than other family members. > My cousin was an "H" haplogroup so Maria Catherine Shepard, who became the > wife of Michael Nichol, and later the mother-in-law of Thomas Johnson had > European maternal lines. > Jo Anne Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> > To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > > >> Okay, you'll have to find a male cousin from your mother's Johnson >> family, >> who actually carries the name, Johnson. That's the way I understand it. > I >> wish somebody on the list would either confirm what I'm saying is true or >> correct me. In my particular case, I have one brother left who could do > the >> testing for the name, Johnson (my maiden name was Johnson, of course), >> but > I >> haven't been able to convince him to do it yet. He thinks it's going to > be >> way too expensive and he doesn't understand how it could help me in my >> genealogy research. He does have a son who could also do the testing, in >> the event that he decides definitely not to do it. >> >> While I'm writing, I might as well say who and what I'm looking for, > right? >> I am looking for information about my 3rd great grandfather, Duncan > Johnson >> (it very well could have been spelled Johnston at some point). I believe > he >> was probably born anywhere from 1770 to 1775, but I don't know where. >> Perhaps from one of the Carolinas or Virginia. I only know that in 1800, > he >> was Tennessee, as his son - my 2nd great grandfather, Randolph Johnson, > was >> born there at that time. BUT WHERE IN TENNESSEE? I have no idea who >> Duncan's parents were or his siblings. I do know that he was in that >> part >> of Blount Co. that must have later become part of Jefferson Co., Alabama, > by >> 1816, as he is on a Tax List (actually called Monroe Co. because I >> understand that Monroe Co. covered most of the present-day counties at > that >> time). On the Blount Co. GenWeb page, he is listed as being a Justice of >> the Peace in 1818/19. Another surname closely connected to him, I > believe, >> is the surname, Wood, but I won't go into that. In 1820, he apparently >> owned land, and I have the township, range, etc. for that. He also made >> a >> will in 1823, which was witnessed by my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Ashby. >> Elizabeth Ashby and Randolph Johnson married a few months later in 1823. >> That's about the extent of what I know about my Duncan Johnson - oh, and >> I >> believe his wife's name was Ann or Anna, and her maiden name MIGHT have > been >> Cunningham, since one of their sons was named George Cunningham Johnson. >> So, there it is. If anybody has any information, I sure would > appreciate - >> or suggestions on how to find out where they were in Tennessee. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> >> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question >> >> >> > That's what someone else said :( >> > >> > Maybe I'll find a cousin somewhere off the male line >> > >> > Alli :) >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> >> > To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:44 PM >> > Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question >> > >> > >> >> Your father's dad would have had to be the Johnson - not his mother. > It >> >> carries through the males. >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - Release Date: > 10/11/2007 9:11 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carolyn, Why don't you suggest to other family members who would benefit from the DNA ancestor results that you all get together and help pay for the testing. I needed the MtDNA that a cousin had to see if a brick wall was Native American or the European lines I had been searching with no results. My cousin was excited to do this but I went ahead and paid for it, because I'm more into genealogy at this time than other family members. My cousin was an "H" haplogroup so Maria Catherine Shepard, who became the wife of Michael Nichol, and later the mother-in-law of Thomas Johnson had European maternal lines. Jo Anne Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > Okay, you'll have to find a male cousin from your mother's Johnson family, > who actually carries the name, Johnson. That's the way I understand it. I > wish somebody on the list would either confirm what I'm saying is true or > correct me. In my particular case, I have one brother left who could do the > testing for the name, Johnson (my maiden name was Johnson, of course), but I > haven't been able to convince him to do it yet. He thinks it's going to be > way too expensive and he doesn't understand how it could help me in my > genealogy research. He does have a son who could also do the testing, in > the event that he decides definitely not to do it. > > While I'm writing, I might as well say who and what I'm looking for, right? > I am looking for information about my 3rd great grandfather, Duncan Johnson > (it very well could have been spelled Johnston at some point). I believe he > was probably born anywhere from 1770 to 1775, but I don't know where. > Perhaps from one of the Carolinas or Virginia. I only know that in 1800, he > was Tennessee, as his son - my 2nd great grandfather, Randolph Johnson, was > born there at that time. BUT WHERE IN TENNESSEE? I have no idea who > Duncan's parents were or his siblings. I do know that he was in that part > of Blount Co. that must have later become part of Jefferson Co., Alabama, by > 1816, as he is on a Tax List (actually called Monroe Co. because I > understand that Monroe Co. covered most of the present-day counties at that > time). On the Blount Co. GenWeb page, he is listed as being a Justice of > the Peace in 1818/19. Another surname closely connected to him, I believe, > is the surname, Wood, but I won't go into that. In 1820, he apparently > owned land, and I have the township, range, etc. for that. He also made a > will in 1823, which was witnessed by my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Ashby. > Elizabeth Ashby and Randolph Johnson married a few months later in 1823. > That's about the extent of what I know about my Duncan Johnson - oh, and I > believe his wife's name was Ann or Anna, and her maiden name MIGHT have been > Cunningham, since one of their sons was named George Cunningham Johnson. > So, there it is. If anybody has any information, I sure would appreciate - > or suggestions on how to find out where they were in Tennessee. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> > To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:58 PM > Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > > > > That's what someone else said :( > > > > Maybe I'll find a cousin somewhere off the male line > > > > Alli :) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> > > To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > > > > > >> Your father's dad would have had to be the Johnson - not his mother. It > >> carries through the males. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM > >

Okay, you'll have to find a male cousin from your mother's Johnson family, who actually carries the name, Johnson. That's the way I understand it. I wish somebody on the list would either confirm what I'm saying is true or correct me. In my particular case, I have one brother left who could do the testing for the name, Johnson (my maiden name was Johnson, of course), but I haven't been able to convince him to do it yet. He thinks it's going to be way too expensive and he doesn't understand how it could help me in my genealogy research. He does have a son who could also do the testing, in the event that he decides definitely not to do it. While I'm writing, I might as well say who and what I'm looking for, right? I am looking for information about my 3rd great grandfather, Duncan Johnson (it very well could have been spelled Johnston at some point). I believe he was probably born anywhere from 1770 to 1775, but I don't know where. Perhaps from one of the Carolinas or Virginia. I only know that in 1800, he was Tennessee, as his son - my 2nd great grandfather, Randolph Johnson, was born there at that time. BUT WHERE IN TENNESSEE? I have no idea who Duncan's parents were or his siblings. I do know that he was in that part of Blount Co. that must have later become part of Jefferson Co., Alabama, by 1816, as he is on a Tax List (actually called Monroe Co. because I understand that Monroe Co. covered most of the present-day counties at that time). On the Blount Co. GenWeb page, he is listed as being a Justice of the Peace in 1818/19. Another surname closely connected to him, I believe, is the surname, Wood, but I won't go into that. In 1820, he apparently owned land, and I have the township, range, etc. for that. He also made a will in 1823, which was witnessed by my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Ashby. Elizabeth Ashby and Randolph Johnson married a few months later in 1823. That's about the extent of what I know about my Duncan Johnson - oh, and I believe his wife's name was Ann or Anna, and her maiden name MIGHT have been Cunningham, since one of their sons was named George Cunningham Johnson. So, there it is. If anybody has any information, I sure would appreciate - or suggestions on how to find out where they were in Tennessee. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > That's what someone else said :( > > Maybe I'll find a cousin somewhere off the male line > > Alli :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> > To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:44 PM > Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > > >> Your father's dad would have had to be the Johnson - not his mother. It >> carries through the males. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's what someone else said :( Maybe I'll find a cousin somewhere off the male line Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > Your father's dad would have had to be the Johnson - not his mother. It > carries through the males.

Your father's dad would have had to be the Johnson - not his mother. It carries through the males. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] DNA--Question > So (yes, I'm a bit slow LOL) if my dad is the son of a Johnson, would that > be considered a "carrier"? His mom was the Johnson. Or would it have to a > male sibling to her or one of the males male children? > > Alli > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D Michael Johnson" <breadman4@verizon.net> > > > >> Alli, >> >> the DNA testor needs to carry the surname for which he is being tested. >> >> Good Luck, Michael > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try this chart. It works great. HTTP://Statelibrary.dcr.state.nc.us/iss/gr/chart.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <KMOMBON@aol.com> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [JOHNSON] 1st cousin Twice removed..

I have had this chart before, but can't read it for questions I have. For instance....My grandmother is my "relatives'" aunt...I want to know if she is my first cousin, or first cousin , twice removed... Can't figure out how to find that on this chart, as "cousins" are only in the "answer" columns. HELP! Bonnie In a message dated 10/10/2007 11:48:38 A.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, CarolynSHoward@comcast.net writes: Thanks, Harold, for the info. Sue Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Cochran" <hcochran123@bellsouth.net> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: [JOHNSON] 1st cousin Twice removed.. > http://lewisgenealogy.com/relate.html > Is one chart ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Thanks, Harold, for the info. Sue Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Cochran" <hcochran123@bellsouth.net> To: <johnson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: [JOHNSON] 1st cousin Twice removed.. > http://lewisgenealogy.com/relate.html > Is one chart > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > JOHNSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tony, Thank you for your email and wanting to help me with my Hannah Johnson. All I can tell you for sure is that My great great great grandmother Sarah Williams was born on May 11, 1829 in Knox co. Tenn., Sarah married on May 4, 1846 in Paintsville, Johnson co. Ky. to Thomas J. Ramey, Sarah died around 1908-12 in Johnson co. Ky. on her death record it gives her parents as Charles Williams and Hannah Johnson, the information was given by her son Alexander Ramey.Thomas and Sarah Williams Ramey are buried in the Ramey Branch Cemetery near Volga, in Johnson co. Ky. There are Johnsons buried in the Ramey Branch Cemetery near Volga, in Johnson co. Ky. there names are John and Nancy Johnson, McKinley Johnson, Levi and Nora Cooper Johnson, Tilda Johnson. There was a Hannah Johnson in Greene co. Tenn. that was born around 1806 and she was a daughter I have read of Joseph A. Johnson and Ann Stanfield who were married around 1803 in Greene co. Tenn. I would like to know very much if my Sarah Williams Ramey was connected to the Johnsons and if her mother was Hannah Johnson. Thank you and Keep in touch. Duane McKenzie. dmckenze@hutchtel.net