Is there someone in Camden County, MO that could get a copy of the last marriage listed here? This is my gr-gr grandfather and his second wife. I live about an hour's drive north of Camdenton in California and don't get down that direction very often and don't know when the next time will be. I had looked in all the natural places (Moniteau, Miller and Morgan Counties) since I knew he had picked her up near Rocky Mount in Miller County. Never thought to look to the south in Camden County. Thanks in advance for anyone who could help. I will pay any costs and send address to anyone that can help. Alan Sparks "Ann (Jobe) Brown" wrote: > Freeman Jobe is s/o Edgar E. Jobe, gs/o Buckner Russell Conrad Jobe > and gt gs/o ABraham Jobe and Margaret Yewes. Groom: Freeman Jobe > Bride: Loraine Rupe > Date: 23 Feb 1929 > Recorded: Book 045 Pg. 251 St Joseph Co, IN > Record #: license date 1929/02/23 Groom: Rube Jobe (age over 21) > Bride: Blanche MAUPIN (age over 21) > Date: 26 Oct 1915 > Recorded: Book 3 Pg. 241 Camden Co, MO > Bond #: 00001-00051
Posted on: Jobe Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Jobe/99 Surname: jobe England Thomas Cunningham Ray ------------------------- The William jobe I have died in 1922 in Marshall Missouri. He was married to Anna Thomas.
I can send this to you as a GEDCOM or Word Document. Let me know. Cordially, Floyd E. Gingrich Phone: 816.833.3352 e-mail: [email protected] Researching: ARBUCKLE, BRALEY, COLEMAN, DARBY,DOVER,VAN CLEVE, FOGARTY,FOSTER,GINGRICH, GINGERICH, JOB(E), SCOTT, KASTER, KINGERY, KNYVETT KOHLMAN, LUKENBILL, MOYLAN, PERKS, RIDINGS, SMOOT, SEARS, STACK, STRAIGHT,THOMAS, WHITTEN. Pedigree Chart Chart no. 1 1 (Spouse of no. 1) Prepared by Telephone Date prepared 30 Nov 2000 Floyd Gingrich 2624 S. Arlington Independence MO 64052 USA ASHFORD (AFN:C8XH- Harvey Weston JOB B : 11 Mar 1888 Asa Allen JOB B : 29 Oct 1839 Lavina Elizabeth O'DELL B : 23 Aug 1846 Jeremiah JOBE B : Abt 1795 Elizabeth THARP B : Abt 1817 Abraham O'Dell O'DELL B : Abt 1820 Lucinda SMITH B : Abt 1820 Zachariah Jobe B : Aug 1758 Elizabeth O'DELL B : Abt 1762 B Moses JOBE B : Abt 1736 Mrs. Moses Jobe B : Jonathan O'DELL B : Phoebe B : Joshua Jobe B : 2 Jan 1705/1707 Margaret MacKay{A} B : 2 Jan 1706/1707 B On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:24:01 -0800 Sharon Miller <[email protected]> writes: > Posted on: Jobe Queries > Reply Here: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Jobe/97 > > Surname: Ashford, Job > ------------------------- > > I am trying to find info for Harvey Weston Job,born > 11Mar.1888,married > Ada Ashford in 1918 in Shelby Co. Mo.,he died 15 Mar. 1966 in Shelby > Co. > Mo. > Cordially, Floyd E. Gingrich Phone: 816.833.3352 e-mail: [email protected] Researching: ARBUCKLE, BRALEY, COLEMAN, DARBY,DOVER,VAN CLEVE, FOGARTY,FOSTER,GINGRICH, GINGERICH, JOB(E), SCOTT, KASTER, KINGERY, KNYVETT KOHLMAN, LUKENBILL, MOYLAN, PERKS, RIDINGS, SMOOT, SEARS, STACK, STRAIGHT,THOMAS, WHITTEN.
The GenForum has a new look and they have a search engine now on the site of what ever you are looking for such as I just did a search on the Casteel family. I was looking for Issac Casteel and it gave me three, but none where the ones I was looking for. It is nice you no longer have to set and read all the messages you can just do a search for the person you are looking for. <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/">GenForum</A> Freida
Posted on: Jobe Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Jobe/98 Surname: JOBE, ODELL, O'DELL, THORPE ------------------------- Sharon, You can find Harvey W. Jobe on this census. 1900 -Knox Co, Missouri Census Asa A. JOBE Oct 1839 VA Sammie J. Nov 1874 MO Harvey W. March 1888 MO He is s/o Asa Allen Jobe and Lavinia Elizabeth 'Alvinia' Odell and gs/o Jeremiah Jobe and Margaret Elizabeth Thorpe and gt gs/o Zechariah Jobe and Elizabeth Odell and so forth. Just see my Jobe Lineage file on World Connect - second link on my Jobe Links page! Good luck! Please write me at [email protected] so we can update your line. Link: Jobe, Job, Jobes, Jobs - Links to Great Information! URL: <http://members.tripod.com/~ajobebrown/Jobe.html>
Posted on: Jobe Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Jobe/97 Surname: Ashford, Job ------------------------- I am trying to find info for Harvey Weston Job,born 11Mar.1888,married Ada Ashford in 1918 in Shelby Co. Mo.,he died 15 Mar. 1966 in Shelby Co. Mo.
Hi guys, for the moment i am back on air,,,( computer problems...) .... i was wondering, was it in some religion in days gone by, that only certain days that they were allowed to do it, or not to do it ????.. ... and all the bed springs creaking and moaning, caught the ears of the elders ...???? ... regards warren in a very hot last day of spring, and thanks, now i got two " 6th cousins once removed " on my mailing list... ......................... Carolyn Nichols wrote: > One clue might be --spiritual adultery. If you read the entire commandment you will see that they are saying that Jesus is the Bridegroom and each Christian is the bride. Partaking of many things, such as lust or other beliefs might be taken as unfaithful to the marriage to Christ and would be spiritual adultery and defile the marriage bed! They also refer to God and Jesus as HIM. I can't explain it all, but I think this is what they are accusing the couple of. Maybe I am way off, but think about it and read the entire commandment. > Carolyn Nichols > >>> <[email protected]> 11/29/00 12:00AM >>> > > Lonnie was right! > > http://www.passtheword.org/Jane-Lead/paradise.htm > > (Check out the 7th Commandment) > ...snip... thou art required to abide most Constant and Loyal to Him, and > never more so much as to look upon, or entertain any other Lover, thereby to > defile the Marriage-bed, in committing of spiritual Adultery; which doth > consist in these following Particulars. > ...snip...
Posted on: Jobe Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Jobe/95 Surname: Lack, Myers, Jobe, Langley ------------------------- I have two William Jobes. William Demus Jobe August 29, 1865-July 30, 1917. William Brengle Jobe June 22, 1901- October 21, 1994. I don't know where they lived. William Demus was my grandmother's father, and Wm. Brengle was her brother. She was an officer,with her husband Charles William Langley, in the Salvation Army in the Chicago area.
I do not know the meaning to a Quaker, but Hebrews 13:4 tells us what it is under the new testament law. Hebrews 13:4 (American Standard Version) 4 Let marriage be had in honor among all, and let the bed be undefiled: for fornicators and adulterers God will judge. Sex within the marriage is honorable, sex outside of marriage is either fornication or adultery therefore any married person who has sex with any person other than his or her own mate commits adultery and therefore defiles the bed. Apparently in this case both parties had committed adultery. Val Jobe [email protected]
Do we have another Val in the group? Val Jobe [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: [JOBE] Defiling a Marriage bed > >From Val, > > > Freida, my husband says one was unfaithful after marriage. lvp > > Now this could be what it! Randy what do you think? > > Freida > >
No my mistake, I got the email addresses confused, sorry. Freida
One clue might be --spiritual adultery. If you read the entire commandment you will see that they are saying that Jesus is the Bridegroom and each Christian is the bride. Partaking of many things, such as lust or other beliefs might be taken as unfaithful to the marriage to Christ and would be spiritual adultery and defile the marriage bed! They also refer to God and Jesus as HIM. I can't explain it all, but I think this is what they are accusing the couple of. Maybe I am way off, but think about it and read the entire commandment. Carolyn Nichols >>> <[email protected]> 11/29/00 12:00AM >>> Lonnie was right! http://www.passtheword.org/Jane-Lead/paradise.htm (Check out the 7th Commandment) ...snip... thou art required to abide most Constant and Loyal to Him, and never more so much as to look upon, or entertain any other Lover, thereby to defile the Marriage-bed, in committing of spiritual Adultery; which doth consist in these following Particulars. ...snip...
Posted on: Jobe Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/JobeObits/173 Surname: Jobe ------------------------- Printed 3 Jan 1978 in The Beaver County Times (I think): WILBUR JOBE Memorial services were held Saturday at Campbells, 2618 Darlington Road, Chippewa Township, for Wilbur D Jobe, 73, of Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla. Born March 28, 1904 in New Brighton, he was the son of the late Daniel C. and Emma McQueen Jobe. An attorney, he was a member of the Florida bar since 1928. He was a member of Christ Episcopal Church, Ponte Vedra, was the second president of Riverside Lions Club, was a former member of Jacksonville council in Jacksonville, Fla., and was a lieutenant in the U.S. Coast Guard during World War II. Surviving are his widow, Margaret M Jobe; two sons, Wlbur D. Jr., Mindelheim, Germany, and Jackson M., Jacksonville; one sister, Mrs. John C. T. Elder, Columbiana, Ohio; and five grandchildren.
4/1/1740 - . William Miller and Rachel his wife laid before the meeting a paper condemning their defiling their marriage bed. I have to agree with the premarital sex approach. Fylan or defilen, old English versions of the word defile...meaning to violate the chastity of. Randy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.193 / Virus Database: 93 - Release Date: 9/19/00
If one of them committed adultery, why was the other condemned? It would seem that they were a victim, not a sinner. Rosanne
But what were the 'following particulars'?? It stops there. Patti > (Check out the 7th Commandment) > ...snip... thou art required to abide most Constant and Loyal to Him, and > never more so much as to look upon, or entertain any other Lover, thereby to > defile the Marriage-bed, in committing of spiritual Adultery; which doth > consist in these following Particulars. > ...snip... >
Well everyone this is the answer that just came across the PA-Old-Chester list. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankum's" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Quaker records entry > Sarah wrote: > > how on earth does one defile one's marriage bed? > > My search engine turned up this site: > > http://www.passtheword.org/Jane-Lead/paradise.htm > > (Check out the 7th Commandment) > ...snip... thou art required to abide most Constant and Loyal to Him, and never more so much as to look upon, or entertain any other Lover, thereby to defile the Marriage-bed, in committing of spiritual Adultery; which doth consist in these following Particulars. > ...snip... > --- > > Sandra Ferguson wrote: > > > (I was just looking through a CD and came across this....how on earth does > > one defile one's marriage bed?......I'm not sure I want to know!) > > > > Church Records: Selected Areas of PA, 1600s-1800s > > > > 4/1/1740 - . > > William Miller and Rachel his wife laid before the meeting a paper > > condemning their defiling their marriage bed. > >
I thought of that, too--adultery could be described that way, couldn't it? Waiting to hear from someone who studies Quakers a lot. Patti > >From Val, > > > Freida, my husband says one was unfaithful after marriage. lvp > > Now this could be what it! Randy what do you think? > > Freida
How NEAT!!! And that this fellow found you, too! Patti > Hello all, > > I received a very special Christmas present yesterday and today. I gentleman > by the name of Darren wrote to me and also so Ann. He told us of how he had > found some photos in an antique shop and they were so good he purshased them. > > He then got on the internet to try and find family and more history on the > photos. He found Ann's site and my name, so he wrote to us. One of the photos > was of Henrietta (Pace) Jobe, second wife of my Gr Gr Uncle William Stone > Jobe s/o James Jobe and Margaret Stone. > > One of the really great things about these photos is that they are documented > on the back. It even gives her death year and place. > I have posted the photo of Henrietta on the Jobe Photo Gallery. It is #112. > > The rest of the photos are of her children from other marriages. Darren tells > me the antique shop where he found these has 3 drawers full of OLD PHOTOS! > > I have made arrangements with Darren to purshase the photos from him for my > family book. What better present could one get, but to have someone find a > photo taken in 1893 in probably Cole Co MO and then write and tell you they > had it! > > William Jobe died April 1893 in Centretown, Cole Co MO. > > Henrietta Jobe died 1894, Ravenna, Buffalo Co. Nebraska. > > HAPPY HOLIDAYS > Freida Wells
How strict were they in the time frame you're referring to... and were they Quakers ? At various points in time, anything other than the "Missionary position" was verbotten. I seem to recall that procreating for pleasure rather than too produce children was also a no-no. And our ancestors took their taboos and their salvation very seriously. You know Frieda, I wouldn't respond to this question for just anybody....<grin> Mj Patti Jobe wrote: > goodness--only thing I can think of it referring to, would be sex before > marriage......I'll see if I can find anything on it. > Patti > > > Can anyone on the list tell me what on earth this means? > > Freida > > > > > > Church Records: Selected Areas of PA, 1600s-1800s > > > > 4/1/1740 - . > > William Miller and Rachel his wife laid before the meeting a paper > condemning > > their defiling their marriage bed. > > > > > > > >