I have to concur with Eric James. I had my James test done through The James Preservation Trust, "not" because I thought I was a descendant of Frank and Jesse James, but I thought it was a good deal.....42 markers for less money than the 37 marker offered by Familytree. Don't get me wrong here, I have had a 37 marker done, and am upgrading another to the 37 marker through Familytree, so I am not putting Familytree down in any way. I like the website and it is very informative, I think, then the other DNA site. There may be someone else who are hoping to match the James brothers, but I am not one of them!! I haven't found one clue in my research that even points in that direction. Just thought I would put my two cents in, don't mean to step on anyone's toes here. I am just trying to find my James' ancestors, whoever they were. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric James<mailto:ericjames@ericjames.org> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:JAMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Susan Rosine to Sara Bowers re two James dna testing projects To Susan Rosine, Your public statement to Sara Bowers on the list James-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:James-L@rootsweb.com> copied below was somewhat inaccurate. In referring Sara to the study being conducted by The James Preservation Trust you stated, "The one you joined is primarily for people who believe they descend from the same James line as the outlaws Frank & Jesse James." This is surprising to me, given the correspondence of May 3, 2005 between myself and you in which I wrote to you the following" "Everyone thinks that dna testing is the solution to proving a relationship to Frank and Jesse James. Nothing could be further from the truth. There exists no y-chromosome, male delineated line of descendants from Frank and Jesse James, carrying the James surname." The purpose of the dna study being conducted by The James Preservation Trust is not to prove or disprove claimants to the family of Frank & Jesse James. The purpose is to delineate the dna data of those families known through genealogy research to share common relationships, and to perhaps discover some unknown families whose genealogy should be known but isn't. The study is a private study because we believe one's dna is one's ultimate identity, which deserves the highest degree of respect and privacy. Unlike other studies, we do not believe dna is information to be amassed in publicly dispensed databases, let alone amassed for the commercial purposes of packaging and reselling such information. One's dna is as personal, if not more personal, than one's hereditary health, and deserving of the same confidentiality as one would expect from one's doctor. ERIC JAMES ________________________ [JAMES-L] For Sara Bowers - Re DNA testing Susan Rosine [S.JAMES.CLARK@prodigy.net] Hi Sara, I tried to contact you three times directly, but I haven't heard back from you, so I assume you haven't gotten any of my emails. I wanted to be sure you didn't think I was ignoring you!! Part of the fun of genealogy for me is helping people with their lines, and sharing my research results with others. You wrote to me asking about the difference in the two DNA testing projects going on for the surname of James. The one you joined is primarily for people who believe they descend from the same James line as the outlaws Frank & Jesse James. The results are private; they can only be viewed by members. The other project, through FamilyTreeDNA, is public and can be viewed by anyone. It is for any and all James lines. You are welcome to compare the results of your brother's test with the results on the FamilyTreeDNA public site. If you find a match, you can contact that person (I think everyone has their email address posted). Please BE AWARE that the testing company you used lists the "marker numbers" in a different order than FamilyTreeDNA does! So if you want to compare them, first rearrange them!!! Good luck! Let me know if I can answer any more questions for you. Susan