Thank gosh for everyone else who is out there looking! Have you given thought to this: if a man married and has 12 children in 1660 with 5 being sons and those sons grow up to become married in 1690 and each has 5 sons and those sons grow up to become married in 1720 and each has 5 sons and those sons grow up to become married in 1750 and each has 5 sons and those sons grow up to become married in 1780 and each has 5 sons and those sons grow up to become married in 1810 and each has 5 sons and those sons grow up to become married in 1740 and each has 5 sons and those sons grow up to become married in 1770 and each has 5 sons How many JAMES males were born? And while many died in ward, disease, accident, infancy, or foul play, many survived! No wonder there are so many links to be resolved! __________________ Linda M. Thank lthank@turboisp.com __________________