This may change everything. Look what I just noticed today!! Charles Wesley James and Marvin James are claiming the same ancestors and they don't DNA match at all!! So only one of you can rightfully claim this line from William James of Pembrokeshire Wales. I also found a very good website on this line. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dalsup&id=I04498 David Alsup says: This relationship [of Thomas James] to the father, Benjamin James, is not proven. MARVIN JAMES DNA Heritage YDN5858 E-mail: marvjames@aol.com Martin Luther James 1869 1944 Benjamin Martin James 1823 1899 John James 1791 1858 Benjamin James, Sr. 1765 - ?? John James 1725 1785 Thomas James c1690 - 1772 John James c1667 Pembrokeshire, Wales 1749 Bucks Co., PA/Elizabeth [LNU] William James c1630 Pembrokeshire, Wales 1692 Pembrokeshire, Wales/Unknown YDN5858 13 25 14 - 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 CHARLES WESLEY JAMES #45468 E-mail: Frances Lefevre lefevrea@prodigy.net E:mail: Maurie James CWJ42@swbell.net George Wesley James 1891 Hill Co TX - 1966 Hill Co TX/Annie Mae Brown George Fillmore James 1858 Sevier Co TN - 1922 Johnson Co TX/Sarah Elizabeth Overton Ananias James 1823 Morgan Co AL - 1897 Collin Co TX/Adaline Vance Thomas James 1793 Rowan Co NC - 1826 Morgan Co AL/Amillia Ballard Benjamin James 1765 Bucks Co PA - c 1815 Rowan Co NC/Eunice Williams John James c 1728 Bucks Co PA - 1779 PA/Magdalena Keshlen Thomas James 1695 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1772 Bucks Co PA/Jane Davis John James c 1667 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1749 Bucks Co PA/Elizabeth William James c 1630 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1692 Pembrokeshire Wales 45468 Charles James 12 24 14 11 11 11 12 12 14 14 13 30 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Susan Rosine [mailto:S.JAMES.CLARK@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 6:48 AM To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [JAMES-L] RE: New DNA Test Results- Bucks co PA Gwen, If the 25 marker test turns out to be an exact match, then does the "title" for your group (on the DNA webpage) change from Joseph Rogers James to William James of Pembrokeshire, Wales? This is certainly exciting news for your line! I hope the rest of the markers match! Susan --- Original Message --- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James >What a surprise! We just received several James DNA results back! So let's start with Charles Wesley James. He is a perfect 12 marker match with our Joseph Rogers James Group. My, that is a surprise!! Now we will have to get that 25 marker test in order to verify this match. We did not know that we were related to the Bucks Co, PA James family and this may be a real breakthrough for our family group. How exciting! > >CHARLES WESLEY JAMES #45468 >E-mail: Frances Lefevre lefevrea@prodigy.net >E:mail: Maurie James CWJ42@swbell.net >George Wesley James 1891 Hill Co TX - 1966 Hill Co TX/Annie Mae Brown >George Fillmore James 1858 Sevier Co TN - 1922 Johnson Co TX/Sarah Elizab= >eth Overton >Ananias James 1823 Morgan Co AL - 1897 Collin Co TX/Adaline Vance >Thomas James 1793 Rowan Co NC - 1826 Morgan Co AL/Amillia Ballard >Benjamin James 1765 Bucks Co PA - c 1815 Rowan Co NC/Eunice Williams >John James c 1728 Bucks Co PA - 1779 PA/Magdalena Keshlen >Thomas James 1695 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1772 Bucks Co PA/Jane Davis >John James c 1667 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1749 Bucks Co PA/Elizabeth >William James c 1630 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1692 Pembrokeshire Wales ==== JAMES Mailing List ==== Visit the JAMES Surname homepage! http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jameskin.htm Including: JAMESON, JAMIESON, JANESON, GUNNISON, GUNN, GEMISON,GAMES, HAMES,HUMES, IAMES