Hello Gwen, Also this on Rowan County, North Carolina Source: The Heritage of Rowan County, North Carolina - Volume I, 1991 Published by the Genealogical Society of Rowan County, Inc. in cooperation with Delmar Printing, Page 391-392 "JAMES: PENNSYLVANIA TO ROWAN - 536 John James and Elizabeth his wife, were born in Wales. They came to America and settled in New Britain and Montgomery Townships, Bucks County, Pennsylvania where John died; his will was dated January 13, 1747 and proved May 8, 1749. They were members of the Baptist Church. John and Elizabeth had seven children: Thomas, Josiah, William, Isaac, Sarah, Rebecca, and Mary. The boys were all born in Wales. Thomas James, son of John and Elizabeth married Jane who died between 1753 and 1755. They had a family of five children: Thomas, Jr. born ca 1722 and died ca 1783, married Letitia; James, born ca 1725 married Elizabeth Easton on September 25, 1762; John called "Little John," died ca 1779, married first Magdalena Keshler on August 13, 1762 and second Edith Eaton on June 14, 1766; Samuel born ca 1730 married Ann Keshler on April 8, 1765; and Elizabeth born 1725, married Benjamin Butler on February 2, 1748. James James, son of Thomas and Jane, and his wife Elizabeth Eaton had no children. They removed to Salisbury, Rowan County, North Carolina by November 7, 1786. James left a will dated Jan 24, 1793 which was probated in 1798; his heirs were his wife and various nieces and nephews. John "Little John" James, son of Thomas and Jane, by his first wife had a son James, and by his second wife had three children: Catherine and Benjamin all removed to Rowan County. Catherine married a Mr. Williams. James James and Catherine Williams inherited land from their uncle James James whose will was probated in 1798. One additional descendant of the immigrant John James removed to Rowan County, North Carolina and he was Samuel James, born 1760 and died 1848. Samuel was the son of Isaac James and Sarah Thomas; Isaac James was the son of William and Mary James who married ca 1718; William was a son of the immigrant John. Samuel James married Elizabeth Cornell and they had seven sons. One son surely was Cornell James who married Nancy Brickhouse December 29, 1812 in Rowan County. Sources: An Account of the James Family of New Britain by Edward Matthews, 1876; Abstracts of Wills and Estate Records of Rowan County, N.C. 1753-1805 by Jo White Linn; Marriages of Rowan County, N.C. by Brent Holcomb; Pennsylvania Marriages Prior to 1790. ---Cathy Gowdy and JAMES JAMES - 537 James James was born in 1725 in Pennsylvania. He was the son of Thomas James who was of the same area. Thomas was a land owner, active member of the Protestant Church and a substantial citizen. The record shows that James James bought 180 acres from his father in 1755, and seven years later he married Elizabeth Eaton in Philadelphia on September 25, 1762. Elizabeth was a sister of the Reverend Peter Eaton, also of Pennsylvania, who had come to Rowan County prior to 1777, where he served as a pastor of area churches. Peter Eaton encouraged his brother-in-law, James James, to move to North Carolina and James is shown by a deed to be a citizen of Salisbury by November 7, 1786. James James and his wife had no children, but they brought with them children of his brother John James, who was born in 1728 and had married Edith Eaton, the sister of Elizabeth, in Philadelphia on June 17, 1766. Children of John James who came to Rowan County were James James, Benjamin James and Catherine, who married Benjamin Williams. Margaret James, their sister, married Morgan James. All of these were substantial land owners, and from them have come many descendants. Another kinsman who came from the same area of Pennsylvania to Rowan County was Samuel James, who was born in 1760 and was the son of Isaac James and Elizabeth Thomas James. Samuel James married Elizabeth Cornell. They had seven sons. James James owned a plantation according to his will of 1793. He bequeathed one half of his land to his wife, Elizabeth, and the remainder to his nieces and nephews. He died on September 4, 1798." Sources: Census records, legal records, research material of Mrs. Margaret Lutes and other historical material from the Rowan County Public Library. ---Nell James Elmore Transcribed by Lucy DeYoung Nov. 6, 2004. -----Original Message----- From: Gwen Boyer Bjorkman [mailto:gwenbj@seanet.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:02 AM To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [JAMES-L] RE: New DNA Test Results- Bucks co PA This may change everything. Look what I just noticed today!! Charles Wesley James and Marvin James are claiming the same ancestors and they don't DNA match at all!! So only one of you can rightfully claim this line from William James of Pembrokeshire Wales. I also found a very good website on this line. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dalsup& id=I04498 David Alsup says: This relationship [of Thomas James] to the father, Benjamin James, is not proven. MARVIN JAMES DNA Heritage YDN5858 E-mail: marvjames@aol.com Martin Luther James 1869 - 1944 Benjamin Martin James 1823 - 1899 John James 1791 - 1858 Benjamin James, Sr. 1765 - ?? John James 1725 - 1785 Thomas James c1690 - 1772 John James c1667 Pembrokeshire, Wales - 1749 Bucks Co., PA/Elizabeth [LNU] William James c1630 Pembrokeshire, Wales - 1692 Pembrokeshire, Wales/Unknown YDN5858 13 25 14 - 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 CHARLES WESLEY JAMES #45468 E-mail: Frances Lefevre lefevrea@prodigy.net E:mail: Maurie James CWJ42@swbell.net George Wesley James 1891 Hill Co TX - 1966 Hill Co TX/Annie Mae Brown George Fillmore James 1858 Sevier Co TN - 1922 Johnson Co TX/Sarah Elizabeth Overton Ananias James 1823 Morgan Co AL - 1897 Collin Co TX/Adaline Vance Thomas James 1793 Rowan Co NC - 1826 Morgan Co AL/Amillia Ballard Benjamin James 1765 Bucks Co PA - c 1815 Rowan Co NC/Eunice Williams John James c 1728 Bucks Co PA - 1779 PA/Magdalena Keshlen Thomas James 1695 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1772 Bucks Co PA/Jane Davis John James c 1667 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1749 Bucks Co PA/Elizabeth William James c 1630 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1692 Pembrokeshire Wales 45468 Charles James 12 24 14 11 11 11 12 12 14 14 13 30 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Susan Rosine [mailto:S.JAMES.CLARK@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 6:48 AM To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [JAMES-L] RE: New DNA Test Results- Bucks co PA Gwen, If the 25 marker test turns out to be an exact match, then does the "title" for your group (on the DNA webpage) change from Joseph Rogers James to William James of Pembrokeshire, Wales? This is certainly exciting news for your line! I hope the rest of the markers match! Susan --- Original Message --- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James >What a surprise! We just received several James DNA results back! So let's start with Charles Wesley James. He is a perfect 12 marker match with our Joseph Rogers James Group. My, that is a surprise!! Now we will have to get that 25 marker test in order to verify this match. We did not know that we were related to the Bucks Co, PA James family and this may be a real breakthrough for our family group. How exciting! > >CHARLES WESLEY JAMES #45468 >E-mail: Frances Lefevre lefevrea@prodigy.net >E:mail: Maurie James CWJ42@swbell.net >George Wesley James 1891 Hill Co TX - 1966 Hill Co TX/Annie Mae Brown >George Fillmore James 1858 Sevier Co TN - 1922 Johnson Co TX/Sarah Elizab= >eth Overton >Ananias James 1823 Morgan Co AL - 1897 Collin Co TX/Adaline Vance >Thomas James 1793 Rowan Co NC - 1826 Morgan Co AL/Amillia Ballard >Benjamin James 1765 Bucks Co PA - c 1815 Rowan Co NC/Eunice Williams >John James c 1728 Bucks Co PA - 1779 PA/Magdalena Keshlen >Thomas James 1695 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1772 Bucks Co PA/Jane Davis >John James c 1667 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1749 Bucks Co PA/Elizabeth >William James c 1630 Pembrokeshire Wales - 1692 Pembrokeshire Wales ==== JAMES Mailing List ==== Visit the JAMES Surname homepage! http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jameskin.htm Including: JAMESON, JAMIESON, JANESON, GUNNISON, GUNN, GEMISON,GAMES, HAMES,HUMES, IAMES ==== JAMES Mailing List ==== List problems? 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Hi Lucy: Thank you so much for sending these articles. This will take a lot of study and first off we must get that 25 marker test ordered so that we can confirm the match of Charles Wesley James with our group descended from Joseph Rogers James. What I am thinking right now is that we are going to have a match with Charles Wesley but that we are not descended from the Bucks Co, PA line of . We found two big coincidences yesterday. Our Joseph J. James m. Elizabeth Ballard 1793 there in Burke Co, NC, although the marriage was recorded in Bedford Co, VA by the traveling Methodist minister. Charles Wesley has his Thomas James of Rowan Co NC who m. Amillia Ballard. I was reading David Alsup's website and I see that Riley James was born 21 MAY 1816 in Clay Co, KY and our Joseph J. James m.2nd Luzima Williamson ca 1813 in Clay Co, KY. His dau Nancy was b. there in 1814 and his son John was b. there in 1818. So Charles Wesley's Thomas James and our Joseph J. James were both in Clay Co, KY at the same time!! By 1819 our Joseph James had gone north to Preble Co, OH and it looks like Thomas James had gone south to Alabama. David Alsup says: 1815 Moved to Kentucky. 1816 KY -First child, Riley James, born. Note: Thomas James went from NC all the way to Central KY, probably late 1815. A very large migration the family of Benjamin James took almost exactly the same route at the same time Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Lucy DeYoung [mailto:lucydeyoung@isomedia.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:02 AM To: 'Gwen Boyer Bjorkman'; JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [JAMES-L] RE: New DNA Test Results- Bucks co PA Hello Gwen, Also this on Rowan County, North Carolina Source: The Heritage of Rowan County, North Carolina - Volume I, 1991 Published by the Genealogical Society of Rowan County, Inc. in cooperation with Delmar Printing, P Bucks age 391-392 "JAMES: PENNSYLVANIA TO ROWAN - 536 John James and Elizabeth his wife, were born in Wales. They came to America and settled in New Britain and Montgomery Townships, Bucks County, Pennsylvania where John died; his will was dated January 13, 1747 and proved May 8, 1749. They were members of the Baptist Church. John and Elizabeth had seven children: Thomas, Josiah, William, Isaac, Sarah, Rebecca, and Mary. The boys were all born in Wales. Thomas James, son of John and Elizabeth married Jane who died between 1753 and 1755. They had a family of five children: Thomas, Jr. born ca 1722 and died ca 1783, married Letitia; James, born ca 1725 married Elizabeth Easton on September 25, 1762; John called "Little John," died ca 1779, married first Magdalena Keshler on August 13, 1762 and second Edith Eaton on June 14, 1766; Samuel born ca 1730 married Ann Keshler on April 8, 1765; and Elizabeth born 1725, married Benjamin Butler on February 2, 1748. James James, son of Thomas and Jane, and his wife Elizabeth Eaton had no children. They removed to Salisbury, Rowan County, North Carolina by November 7, 1786. James left a will dated Jan 24, 1793 which was probated in 1798; his heirs were his wife and various nieces and nephews. John "Little John" James, son of Thomas and Jane, by his first wife had a son James, and by his second wife had three children: Catherine and Benjamin all removed to Rowan County. Catherine married a Mr. Williams. James James and Catherine Williams inherited land from their uncle James James whose will was probated in 1798. One additional descendant of the immigrant John James removed to Rowan County, North Carolina and he was Samuel James, born 1760 and died 1848. Samuel was the son of Isaac James and Sarah Thomas; Isaac James was the son of William and Mary James who married ca 1718; William was a son of the immigrant John. Samuel James married Elizabeth Cornell and they had seven sons. One son surely was Cornell James who married Nancy Brickhouse December 29, 1812 in Rowan County. Sources: An Account of the James Family of New Britain by Edward Matthews, 1876; Abstracts of Wills and Estate Records of Rowan County, N.C. 1753-1805 by Jo White Linn; Marriages of Rowan County, N.C. by Brent Holcomb; Pennsylvania Marriages Prior to 1790. ---Cathy Gowdy and JAMES JAMES - 537 James James was born in 1725 in Pennsylvania. He was the son of Thomas James who was of the same area. Thomas was a land owner, active member of the Protestant Church and a substantial citizen. The record shows that James James bought 180 acres from his father in 1755, and seven years later he married Elizabeth Eaton in Philadelphia on September 25, 1762. Elizabeth was a sister of the Reverend Peter Eaton, also of Pennsylvania, who had come to Rowan County prior to 1777, where he served as a pastor of area churches. Peter Eaton encouraged his brother-in-law, James James, to move to North Carolina and James is shown by a deed to be a citizen of Salisbury by November 7, 1786. James James and his wife had no children, but they brought with them children of his brother John James, who was born in 1728 and had married Edith Eaton, the sister of Elizabeth, in Philadelphia on June 17, 1766. Children of John James who came to Rowan County were James James, Benjamin James and Catherine, who married Benjamin Williams. Margaret James, their sister, married Morgan James. All of these were substantial land owners, and from them have come many descendants. Another kinsman who came from the same area of Pennsylvania to Rowan County was Samuel James, who was born in 1760 and was the son of Isaac James and Elizabeth Thomas James. Samuel James married Elizabeth Cornell. They had seven sons. James James owned a plantation according to his will of 1793. He bequeathed one half of his land to his wife, Elizabeth, and the remainder to his nieces and nephews. He died on September 4, 1798." Sources: Census records, legal records, research material of Mrs. Margaret Lutes and other historical material from the Rowan County Public Library. ---Nell James Elmore Transcribed by Lucy DeYoung Nov. 6, 2004.