What a surprise this is! We just received the 12 marker results for Larry Timbre James who has his line traced back to the Chester Co. PA Quaker family of James James. We thought this would be a match for the David James Quaker family of Chester Co, PA, but apparently there is more than one family of James in Chester Co. Larry is only two mutations away from several of our James families and I am so glad that he has ordered the 37 marker test. All of you men with the R1b1 Haplogroup (Western European) just have to order at least the 25 marker test to see if you have any matches. There are just too many in the R1b1 Haplogroup to get a good reading from the 12 markers. Here are the ones that Larry is close too. 57434 Larry Timbre James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 29 45580 Troy Stephen James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 43289 Ronald Scott James R1b1 13 23 14 12 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 These 3 are just 2 markers off, but we would have to get the other two to extend their markers. You are allowed a 2 marker mutation in the 25 marker test and a 4 marker mutation in the 37 marker test and still have a match. LARRY TIMBRE JAMES #57434 E-mail: Larry James Larryj1939@aol.com Fred James 1882 Uxbridge, ONT-1922 Denver, CO/Mertie Sheeks Alonzo James abt. 1854 Uxbridge, ONT-1931 Vancouver, BC/Mercy-Ann Hilborn John James 1813 Uxbridge, ONT-1876 Uxbridge, ONT/Rachel Widdifield Ezekiel James 1782 Delaware Co, PA-1870 Uxbridge, ONT/Ruth Lundy Ezekiel James 1736 Chester Co, PA-1808 Uxbridge, ONT/Keziah Harvey John James 1713 Chester Co, PA-1750 prob. Chester Co, PA/Ann Baker Thomas James bfr. 1687 Goshen, Chester Co, PA-1752 prob. Chester Co, PA/Mary Goodwin James James 1650-64 Chester, PA or Pembrokeshire, Wales-1708 Chester Co, PA/Janet Jovett 57434 Larry James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 29 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:04 PM To: jamesdm49@aol.com; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 57434, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Please remind your group member to upload his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. He will find the upload link at his Y-DNA Matches tab, where there is an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA