I'm surprised Larry James did not match my David JAMES, but I was sure if he didn't match my David James, that he would match Howell JAMES, yet another Quaker who lived in Chester county, PA at the same time as David and James James. Nope!! So many different James families in that area!!! Back to the drawing board for me; I was fairly certain that my David was the son of James James, but DNA results seem to indicate that is not the case. Still, I would love for others from the James JAMES line to participate in the DNA project. James James had three sons; surely there are other male descendents of him out there!! Susan --- Original Message --- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James >What a surprise this is! We just received the 12 marker results for Larry Timbre James who has his >line traced back to the Chester Co. PA Quaker family of James James. We thought this would be a >match for the David James Quaker family of Chester Co, PA, but apparently there is more than one >family of James in Chester Co. Larry is only two mutations away from several of our James families >and I am so glad that he has ordered the 37 marker test. All of you men with the R1b1 Haplogroup >(Western European) just have to order at least the 25 marker test to see if you have any matches. >There are just too many in the R1b1 Haplogroup to get a good reading from the 12 markers. Here are >the ones that Larry is close too. > >57434 Larry Timbre James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 29 >45580 Troy Stephen James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 >43289 Ronald Scott James R1b1 13 23 14 12 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 > > >LARRY TIMBRE JAMES #57434 >E-mail: Larry James Larryj1939@aol.com >Fred James 1882 Uxbridge, ONT-1922 Denver, CO/Mertie Sheeks >Alonzo James abt. 1854 Uxbridge, ONT-1931 Vancouver, BC/Mercy-Ann Hilborn >John James 1813 Uxbridge, ONT-1876 Uxbridge, ONT/Rachel Widdifield >Ezekiel James 1782 Delaware Co, PA-1870 Uxbridge, ONT/Ruth Lundy >Ezekiel James 1736 Chester Co, PA-1808 Uxbridge, ONT/Keziah Harvey >John James 1713 Chester Co, PA-1750 prob. Chester Co, PA/Ann Baker >Thomas James bfr. 1687 Goshen, Chester Co, PA-1752 prob. Chester Co, PA/Mary Goodwin >James James 1650-64 Chester, PA or Pembrokeshire, Wales-1708 Chester Co, PA/Janet Jovett >57434 Larry James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 29 > >Gwen Boyer Bjorkman >gwenbj@seanet.com

Yes, Susan, I agree. I can't believe there are so many James families!! We really need to find another descendant of James James in order to confirm his DNA markers. I can hardly wait for all 37 markers of Larry James to come back. This DNA testing is just full of surprises! I guess David will have to start a new group for Larry on the webpage. It will be: James James, c1650-64 PA or Wales - 1708 Chester Co, PA Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Susan Rosine [mailto:S.JAMES.CLARK@prodigy.net] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 7:31 AM To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [JAMES-L] RE: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James I'm surprised Larry James did not match my David JAMES, but I was sure if he didn't match my David James, that he would match Howell JAMES, yet another Quaker who lived in Chester county, PA at the same time as David and James James. Nope!! So many different James families in that area!!! Back to the drawing board for me; I was fairly certain that my David was the son of James James, but DNA results seem to indicate that is not the case. Still, I would love for others from the James JAMES line to participate in the DNA project. James James had three sons; surely there are other male descendents of him out there!! Susan --- Original Message --- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James >What a surprise this is! We just received the 12 marker results for Larry Timbre James who has his >line traced back to the Chester Co. PA Quaker family of James James. We thought this would be a >match for the David James Quaker family of Chester Co, PA, but apparently there is more than one >family of James in Chester Co. Larry is only two mutations away from several of our James families >and I am so glad that he has ordered the 37 marker test. All of you men with the R1b1 Haplogroup >(Western European) just have to order at least the 25 marker test to see if you have any matches. >There are just too many in the R1b1 Haplogroup to get a good reading from the 12 markers. Here are >the ones that Larry is close too. > >57434 Larry Timbre James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 29 >45580 Troy Stephen James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 >43289 Ronald Scott James R1b1 13 23 14 12 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 > > >LARRY TIMBRE JAMES #57434 >E-mail: Larry James Larryj1939@aol.com >Fred James 1882 Uxbridge, ONT-1922 Denver, CO/Mertie Sheeks >Alonzo James abt. 1854 Uxbridge, ONT-1931 Vancouver, BC/Mercy-Ann Hilborn >John James 1813 Uxbridge, ONT-1876 Uxbridge, ONT/Rachel Widdifield >Ezekiel James 1782 Delaware Co, PA-1870 Uxbridge, ONT/Ruth Lundy >Ezekiel James 1736 Chester Co, PA-1808 Uxbridge, ONT/Keziah Harvey >John James 1713 Chester Co, PA-1750 prob. Chester Co, PA/Ann Baker >Thomas James bfr. 1687 Goshen, Chester Co, PA-1752 prob. Chester Co, PA/Mary Goodwin >James James 1650-64 Chester, PA or Pembrokeshire, Wales-1708 Chester Co, PA/Janet Jovett >57434 Larry James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 29 > >Gwen Boyer Bjorkman >gwenbj@seanet.com ==== JAMES Mailing List ==== Jesse and Frank have their own mailing list! Friends, family and other MO Outlaws, the era and the area will be the topic! Hope to see you on the list! ******************************************* Visit Frank and Jesse James on-line! http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jamesged.htm