Howell JAMES was a Quaker who came from Monmouthshire to Chester county, PA in 1684. He may've been married to "Elizabeth" in Wales, but if so, she must've died, because his wife Gwenllian died shortly after their arrival in PA. Howell married twice after that, but I think all his male children (Phillip, James, William, Howell junior)were with Elizabeth and/or Gwenllian. Howell died in 1717 in New Castle county, Delaware. He named several sons and grandsons in his will. But there are many men with similar names in the same area, so it is somewhat uncertain which ones were actually Howell's sons. So, it would be helpful if any male who thinks they descend from Howell participates in the DNA test to sort everything out! Susan --- Original Message --- From: "Lisa Leighton" <lisauk1@ntlworld.com> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [JAMES-L] New James DNA test results >Who is Howell James and what date was he born. > >Unfortunately as I have said before I have not gone back very far with my >family tree from Glamorgan in the late 1800's yet but I do have 5 living >male with the surname James. > >I find it so hard researching the James surname. > >Lisa (Oxford) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gwen Boyer Bjorkman [mailto:gwenbj@seanet.com] >Sent: 22 February 2006 18:37 >To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [JAMES-L] New James DNA test results > >We have had two men join the James DNA test from the National Geographic DNA >test. They are the >ones with numbers beginning with "N." Harvey James does not have any >matches with our other James, >but he is only 2 markers off from the group headed by Edmund James, d Jan >1672/73 Essex Co., MA. It >would be really good for Harvey to get the 25 marker test to see if he could >be a match with them. > >HARVEY ELLIOTT JAMES N20115 >E-mail: Harvey James harvjames@aol.com >Harry Elliott James, Jr., b 1915, St. Louis, Mo >N20115 Harvey James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 12 12 12 14 13 13 29 > >Gregory James had his father tested in the National Geographic Test so they >are a perfect match and >Bernard joins the Bucks Co, PA & Philadelphia Co, PA James line. > >BERNARD JOSEPH JAMES #N20927 >E-mail: Gregory James gjames@gjd.com >Irvin Lebeus James 1882 McDonough Co, IL-1958 Duluth, MN/Josephine Helen >Vinopal >Emanuel Jefferson James 1855 Muskingum Co, OH-1924 McDonough Co, IL/Mary >Alice Allshouse >Thomas Jefferson James 1806 PA-1870 McDonough Co, IL/Naomi Shaw >Joseph James 1779-1859/Elizabeth >N20927 Bernard Joseph James R1b 13 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 28 > >I also saw a message yesterday from #49832 William James saying that he may >not have his line proved >back to Howell James from Monmouthshire, Wales to PA 1684-1717 New Castle >Co, DE so there may still >be hope that some of us could be descended from this Howell James. We would >really appreciate >having about two men with a proven line to Howell James tested. So if >anyone on this James list >knows of a descendant, I hope that you will urge them to join the DNA test >and see if they do match >William James. We have four more tests that are at the Lab now and the >results should be back soon >and we have five more tests that are out now and will be sent back to FTDNA >in the near future. >David is getting all of these new tests put on the JAMES DNA website so be >sure and check: > >http://www.jamesdna.net > >Our group now has 49 members and 44 kits have been returned. > >Gwen Boyer Bjorkman >gwenbj@seanet.com > > > >==== JAMES Mailing List ==== >Jesse and Frank have their own mailing list! >Friends, family and other MO Outlaws, the era and the area will >be the topic! Hope to see you on the list! >******************************************* >Visit Frank and Jesse James on-line! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jamesged.htm > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/267 - Release Date: 22/02/2006 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/267 - Release Date: 22/02/2006 > > >______________________________